The Melvin Gordon Angle

July 12th, 2019

Would be nice, but…

Yesterday when Adam Schefter of BSPN twittered that Melvin Gordon is trying to strong-arm the Chargers to land a better contract, within seconds Joe started getting messages on Twitter and Instagram asking if there is any way the Bucs could land him?

Oh, if we’re speaking in the abstract, sure. Joe suspects Gordon could be had for a second-round pick since he’s in the final year of his contract. Maybe a second-round pick and a player or two.

The biggest stumbling block to obtaining Gordon would be how to fit him in under the salary cap.

Yesterday, Joe was listening to SiriusXM NFL Radio as he is wont to do. During “Movin’ the Chains,” co-host “The Professor,” John Clayton, immediately cited two teams where Gordon would fit. One was the Bucs but Clayton admitted Tampa Bay is currently in salary cap hell.

A few hours later on “Late Hits,” co-host Charles Davis said the “perfect fit” for Gordon would be Bucco Bruce Arians and the Bucs. Davis compared Gordon with running back David Johnson, who had great success with Arians in Arizona.

With a little tweaking, the Bucs could find a way to squeeze Gordon within the cap for this season if so motivated. It’s not out of the question that Jason Pierre-Paul could be cut due to his fractured neck. No one really knows when or if JPP can answer the bell. If the Bucs moved on, that would be some $7 million right there.

Nightmare Will Gholston would also be a prime salary cap casualty as well as Evan Smith. That’s roughly $5 million between the two right there.

So yeah, the Bucs could squeeze Gordon onto the roster financially. But after this year? Well, that would get very dicey.

Gordon, 26, has been an exceptional dual-threat running back for the Chargers. And that is the main sticking point with obtaining Gordon.

Usually, only rebuilding teams, or teams with new coaches, or poorly run teams, actually want to get rid of good players. The Chargers should be in the thick of it for the AFC West title this fall.

Also, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, 37, likely only has a few more years left. That window is closing shortly so why would the Chargers shoot themselves in the foot by trading such a valuable weapon like Gordon in his prime?

Joe cannot see the Chargers dumping Gordon. But if they did, well, things could get very interesting.

49 Responses to “The Melvin Gordon Angle”

  1. Magadude Says:

    I agree, can’t see the Chargers letting Gordon get away. But it is a sad situation that Bucs fans must watch and hope for dysfunction elsewhere for a glimmer of hope to be able to somehow make ends meet to squeeze a guy in where there is a gaping hole…but with no means to pay to fix it.

    Think about it. Our first 10 sack edge rusher since Rice, an arugably top leader of the D and local favorite, would maybe have to be sacrificed going forward to have a shot at a big “maybe” in the moment.

    One guy worth waiting for is JPP. Yet so many holes yet to fill.

  2. Tampabaybucfan Says:


  3. Bucsfanman Says:

    Definitely a dream! Gordon ain’t leaving the Chargers.

  4. JA Says:

    Gordon yards per carry–career-3.5, 3.9, 3.9 and then last year, 5.1.

    So, did Gordon miraculously get better or did he get a better offense line?

    Granted, he can catch the ball. But his running abilities were Barber-like after his first three years. IMO, they would return to the high threes if he came here.
    Gordon has proven, like all running backs, that it’s more about the run blocking than the runner.

    Too bad many of the opinion pushers I digest here, albeit with an antacid, do not agree.

  5. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    13 days……sadly we can’t give up any draft picks….

  6. Allbuccedup Says:

    Send San Diego Cameron Brate, Peyton Barber, Wil Gholston, and release JPP and pray the Chargers GM is as clueless as Jason Licht.

  7. Jimmy Says:

    >>> Send San Diego Cameron Brate <<<

    Why do people want to get rid of a touchdown machine so bad? Isn't the name of the game to score points? Didn't the Bucs have problems scoring points last year and you want to get rid of one of the few guys on the roster who can score? I don't understand. Instead of trading the guy, Brate needs to be on the field more. Has Mark Dominik been re-hired by the Glazers boys? Or Lovie Smith?

  8. Gettinthebucs Says:

    Coach already said he’s not overpaying for running back. Now if a young pass rusher starts making some noise we got a shot

  9. TDTB Says:

    Brate to Patriots for Michel or Harrison frees up cash to go after Clowney or Ngakoue.

  10. Allbuccedup Says:

    Jimmy its about winning not one individual that extremely overrated and overpaid. Any decent TE can catch the ball. Teams are not standing in line to trade for Brate or he would have been traded in the nfl draft.

  11. Alanbucsfan Says:

    JA- Agree 100 pct –
    I would only add to run blocking- coaching and scheme.

  12. Kobe Faker Says:

    “No future winning team will overpay for a runningback

    It is more advantageous to hire a competent GM to draft a legit young runningback in the 2nd round under a rookie salary cap and rinse and repeat

    Kobe Faker is willing to chop his pecker so that the Bucs can win 6 games in 2019 season”

    Kobe Vrabel Faker

  13. Ndog Says:

    Melvin Gordon has rushed for 1,000 yards one time in four years, are you kidding me he was a first round draft pick!!! So you want this guy over someone like Peyton Barber who gives you everything and then some? This is the kind of move that makes teams crappy, see DJax as a prime example, flash but with zero TEAM substance. What has this guy done to deserve a new deal exactly?

  14. Allbuccedup Says:

    Kobe your pecker is safe.

  15. Razor Ramone Says:

    5-11 and in cap hell? It’s a Bucs life.

  16. Jason Says:

    I usually try not to pile on the Licht sucks bandwagon, but to go from $18million under the cap to salary cap hell in just 2 years with nothing to show for it but a dumpster fire is unacceptable. In my opinion, if we don’t have a winning season this year, Licht has to go.

  17. TexBuc Says:

    Pass on any high paid RB’s.

  18. George Rauh Says:

    BA all ready said he would not pay for a running back. To re-sign Gordon would be around 10 million a year plus 2ND ROUNDER.

    The Bucs should try to get Duke Johnson. His cap hit is a little over 2 million this year and he is signed thru 2021.


  19. Joe Says:

    are you kidding me he was a first round draft pick!!! So you want this guy over someone like Peyton Barber who gives you everything and then some? This is the kind of move that makes teams crappy, see DJax as a prime example, flash but with zero TEAM substance. What has this guy done to deserve a new deal exactly?

    Still going from the night before, eh? Joe is jealous.

  20. BigHog Says:

    JA: you go to the top of the class!!

  21. AwShbucs Says:

    “I dont over pay for that position.”

    -Bruce Arians in reference to going out and getting a RB. While I’d love to have a player like Melvin Gordon on our team. It ain’t happening.

  22. Destinjohnny Says:

    Good thing we passed on johnson and Guice for Rojo……
    We should be set at back, right??!

  23. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    I wouldnt believe everything arians says, but how in the heck does 5-11 licht still have an NFL job running a franchise? This is getting as bad as the Vinny T years. History has shown that the bucs are very bad with coaches on their second acts

  24. diggler Says:

    Kobe Faker Says:
    July 12th, 2019 at 7:58 am

    Kobe Faker is willing to chop his pecker so that the Bucs can win 6 games in 2019 season”

    ^^^Now here’s a real Bucs fan! LOL

  25. Allbuccedup Says:

    Don’t overpay for a running back but lets overpay a tight end, quarterback, and wide receiver. Evans is great but 20 mil please.

  26. SCBucsFan Says:

    “Any decent TE can catch the ball.”

    Yeah, the other teams in the NFL aren’t finding guys like that because, umm, why?

  27. diggler Says:


    Exactly. Will have to see if Barber is good out of the backfield catching the ball, which as we all know is crucial for an RB in BA offense. Going to be a very interesting camp for Barber I think he’ll do great.

  28. Race to 10 Says:

    Never mind BA saying that’s not a position he thinks they should pay for or the fact that it’s not a smart move. Just goes to show with all the negative gloom and doom talk fans are frontin and cant wait to cheer on the team lol dont know why so many are faking like they aren’t excited to watch the team and looking for the negative. We got rojo dont need to go overboard this guy😁

  29. 813bucboi Says:

    gordon has a lengthy injury history and can be a tad inconsistent…..i think we should go after duke….duke and barber would be a nice combo….imo, duke can be had for a 5th or 6th round pick….but knowing licht, browns will con him for a 2nd or 3rd….

    GO BUCS!!!!

  30. TOM Says:

    I agree that the Bucs would be better off gambling with Duke Johnson. Also Licht should have been gone a couple of seasons ago.

  31. Waterboy Says:

    Nah I’d pass. Good player but I wouldn’t give up more than a 4th rd pick for a RB and I also wouldn’t overpay for that position. Just wait and grab a guy that gets released and let him split carries.

  32. Waterboy Says:

    San Diego doesn’t seem that interested in opening the safe for him and I doubt they miss him much if he leaves.

  33. El_Buc941 Says:

    Nope!no way no how even if BA wanted to. If we sign Jameis to a new contract there goes the rest of the cap space. We literally would not be able to se anyone else unless we have major cuts and contract reconstuctions throught the whole roster. WE STILL HAVENT EVEN SIGNED OUR 1ST ROUND PICK AND YALL GUYS WANNA GET MELVIN?!lmao

  34. Papa Giorgio Says:

    I see someone put some extra Baileys in their coffee this morning….

  35. R.O. Says:

    Comparing MG…. One 1,000 yd season in his 1st 4 years and you want the Bucs to give up prime draft capital and precious Salary Cap space. At least DM22 Had two 1,400 yd seasons in his 1st 4 years. MG hasnt come close on much better teams.

  36. WestChap Says:

    Can’t see this ever happening. If Gordon gets out of LA they better put the facility on lockdown because Rivers is going to go insane. I do love Rivers’ game… can’t believe he’s stuck in the Marino section of Super Bowl purgatory. Duke or Sony are much more likely adds… the fact that Bruce hasn’t sent Brate to NE for Sony already means he either 1) is happy with Barber (very possible given all the other weapons on O), 2) thinks Duke is going to shake loose eventually (very possible given he’s clearly willing to be vocal and cash Cleveland checks at the same time) or 3) he sees incredible value in Brate’s solo production and in the crazy sets one could run with both OJ and Brate on the field together (willing to bet he’s been watching tapes of Gronk/Hernandez). Most likely scenario is “all of the above”… meaning Bruce (unlike Licht) can sit back and let the offseason come to him without feeling the need to make any splashy moves.

  37. Stanglassman Says:

    Melvin Gordon could have easily washed out after a year or two it’s a credit to SD organization for sticking with him. It all clicked with him midway his 2nd season. Gordon is the real deal. I’m not sold on him leaving and if he would it’d be too rich for the Bucs. I agree that Duke Johnson is the way to go.

  38. Maze Says:

    Gholston is starter though so

  39. gotbbucs Says:

    Arians will not pay that money for a RB. Never ever ever.

  40. Allbuccedup Says:

    Gotbbucs he might change his mind when he sees how good our running game is this year.

  41. Darin Says:

    Did we already forget Arians view about the amount of cap he spends on rbs? Its not the amount Gordon wants thats for sure

  42. Rod Munch Says:

    Pretty sure the Chargers aren’t getting a 2nd rounder from Gordon, not in the last year of his deal.

    As for Gordon, he’s pretty good, but not in a top tier. Yes, I know his numbers are good, but he’s running in the wide open a lot of times. He clearly has very good speed, but without that line blocking for him, I’m not sure how much better he is than Barber – meaning in Tampa is he anything other than a 4.0ypc carry back? I’m not sure. Anywho, just to make sure I’m remembering everything correctly, I went and looked at his highlights for this last year, those should show his big plays where he shows something, and while there’s a couple of nice moves in there, it’s mainly him running through giant holes. To me it appears the Chargers don’t want to pay him elite money for a good reason.

  43. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    Man some of you guys are getting hung up on his rushing yards only. The guy was a dual threat, every down back when healthy. He’d often get almost as many (sometimes more!) yards receiving as he did rushing. Plus he was really good at finding the end zone. With all that said I’m not advocating for the Bucs to even consider him…too much money for a team with a lot of question marks. I’m hoping RoJo becomes our Melvin Gordon, but the “let’s bring in Duke Johnson” crowd do make a compelling argument (assuming the cost to acquire isn’t very steep).

  44. passthebuc Says:

    easy solution
    Trade JW even up

  45. CHRIS Says:

    Lets sign Devin White how’s that sound?

  46. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    If Melvin Gordon is trying to get more money where he is, what makes anyone think he won’t want the same if traded?

    And is he really worth it?

  47. Jameis Almighty! Says:

    Interesting take..

  48. adam from ny Says:

    if you can curtail some of the OL line failures where barber and rojo and anyone else for that matter get stacked up or tackled for a loss, then barber is essentially a 4.5 yard per carry back…the line just has to work on limiting the TFL issues they have and the run game improves a lot…


  49. adam from ny Says:

    we don’t need a big kahuna at RB…

    a little kahuna will do