Arians: Jameis Was “Fantastic”
July 27th, 2019
Reacts.
Yesterday, Joe thought America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had perhaps the worst professional practice seen from the Florida State product.
Joe has yet to see any spectator suggest Jameis was sharp. But there was one person who saw a different quarterback wearing No. 3 yesterday. And that was Bucco Bruce Arians.
In his post-practice remarks, Arians hinted both he and defensive coordinator Todd Bowles decided to throw the kitchen sink at Jameis to see how he handled things. As a result, Arians didn’t think Jameis’ day was so awful.
In fact, he lauded Jameis.
“I thought he was fantastic,” Arians said. “All the things that we’re throwing at him today and the different coverages Todd [Bowles] put in. I thought his red zone was really good. He threw a 50-50 ball to Mike [Evans] that wasn’t a very good 50-50 ball. I don’t mind him throwing those to Mike. Mike’s going to come down with his share, but just make it a little bit closer. I liked the thought process of it.”
Joe did note on both Twitter yesterday during practice and in his story on Jameis’ struggles Friday, that it very well could be as a result of the defensive backs flying all over the place.
This, as Joe pointed out, is foreign to Joe and many Bucs fans. Bucs defensive backs playing aggressive, batting down passes, clogging passing lanes, picking off passes, contesting balls?
It was to the point Joe thought those things were just the stuff of fiction novels.
Joe would personally like to see more of this aggressive defense against Jameis, and for Jameis to improve against it.
July 27th, 2019 at 12:19 am
Hmmm… what are the Sheep to make of these contradictory assessments? Soon we will know
July 27th, 2019 at 12:43 am
Right on, Joe! JW3 Will improve by facing an aggressive practice defense. Fans need to recall that opposing QB Ratings vs Bucs D for last few years were 10-20 points higher than their average QB rating. Bucs D made a lot of money for opposing QB’s.
Last year’s game for Bucs D against Bears comes to mind. YIKES – was like watching Bears O play a Tier2 College Defense.
Past years success by JW3 in training camp or regular season practice against Bucs horrific D, led all of us, including JW3, down false paths regarding his improvement. BA will challenge and teach him new lessons every day.
His accuracy will hopefully improve with the footwork coaching – hopefully. Practice SHOULD be more challenging than games!
JW3 seems to have finally matured as a person, and his desire & commitment to work are unquestioned. The situation is ripe for him to have a better year.
Challenging as the schedule is this year, maybe, just maybe the Bucs can sneak into playoffs and then all bets are off. Those first 3 games are key!
Bucs D – really looking forward to a new day. Maybe our RB’s surprise us. Would love to see a RB FA signing as insurance. Go Bucs!
July 27th, 2019 at 12:51 am
Joe…You seen some Anthony Nelson play? He’s a beast with speed and with Suh and Vea next to him, a break out fourth round DE would be awesome. Keep an eye on him for me Joe and let me know his deal…
July 27th, 2019 at 1:25 am
Steel sharpens steel.
July 27th, 2019 at 3:00 am
This sheep will pay a bit more attention to what Bruce Arians thinks.
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Go Bucs!!!
July 27th, 2019 at 3:24 am
Now THIS could be exciting. First day of training camp & BA has TB ‘throw the kitchen sink at Jameis & the offense’. Gotta love it.
I’d think that this is a totally new situation for Jameis. New coaches, new playbook, new mechanics even … all the while facing a new defense. I like BA’s thought process though: high intensity from the git-go, on BOTH sides of the ball. Assuming that the 2 things Jameis needs to focus on are better decision-making & protecting the football, there’s only 1 way IMO to improve in those 2 areas in training camp: full-speed-ahead, Katie-bar-the-door practices. Can’t wait until the pads come on.
July 27th, 2019 at 5:25 am
One practice and these idiots are criticizing JW. Hey Joe, I bet if you took a poll most these idiots comenting on this site would rsther Tim Tebow as our franchise QB. This town is a joke.
July 27th, 2019 at 6:07 am
This is the same coach who showed our HOF QB the door for no good reason, other than to bolster the confidence of JW3? Sounds like BA is still playing psychologist here…
#FreeTheAmishRifle
#TheAmishRifleIsFree
July 27th, 2019 at 6:16 am
This bothers me though if you think about it.
Let’s face it. Joe is one of the biggest Jameis supporters on the face of the earth. Especially if it’s obsessed joe. He said Jameis was awful. That’s pretty telling. Cause in games in the past where Jameis clearly didn’t play well, joe would even call it a “mixed bag” when it clearly was a dog turd. And joe clearly said he was awful so I really believe it must have been his worst practice.
Now arians calls guys out. Let’s face it …the world knows this. Or do the rules not apply to Jameis cause they are so afraid of getting in his head? Are they going to tell him good job regardless of his performance? It’s well known that fitz got in his head last year. And that’s fitz- a seventh round draft pick .
This is a little concerning to say the least.
And It’s only one practice …with new offense …and different blitz packages …so the INTs don’t worry me yet.
but the double standard could become a bigger problem very soon
July 27th, 2019 at 6:26 am
It is one practice. One. Thank God some of you are not ER physicians. You’d be declaring people dead after a sneeze.
July 27th, 2019 at 6:50 am
ModHairKen Says:
July 27th, 2019 at 6:26 am
It is one practice. One. Thank God some of you are not ER physicians. You’d be declaring people dead after a sneeze.
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4 years is a long time to be in ER
July 27th, 2019 at 6:51 am
I like BA staying positive with Jameis……and I like even more our DBs flying around with attitudes….
This season will be all about three things:
Jameis minimizing turnovers
Significantly improved defense
Good Kicking
July 27th, 2019 at 6:54 am
“Arians: Jameis Was “Fantastic””
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messaging Jameis’s fragile ego
July 27th, 2019 at 7:04 am
Nothing is wrong with a bad practice here and there, unless there is a pattern of inconsistency….which could indicate it’s same old Winston. If he’s got nerves going into his first practice in his 5th year, then I can only imagine how bad he’d be in his first playoff game of single elimination. He’s always had a problem with getting amped up and not settling down. I’d expect Arians to say what he did no matter what, because he’s got to keep Winston encouraged. That’s what coaches should do. I’d not expect the same comments in week 3 with a similar performance.
July 27th, 2019 at 7:15 am
The are interceptions and then there are interceptions… a tight ball a DB jumps is one type….a inaccurate ball is another …and those are Jameis’s signature INT’s….in another article today on JBF BA is quoted as saying Evans came down with a 50-50 ball….was that a pass to the spot so Evans could jump and catch or did Evans have to jump to catch the ball…..one of my biggest fears is losing one of our star WR/TE landing awkwardly after coming down trying to catch a poorly throw ball…
July 27th, 2019 at 7:23 am
I had a feeling it was because of the defense. I like that Arians and Bowles went wild on him to test him on the first day. Get Jameis experiencing good, tight defense now, and he’ll recognize it quicker later.
Also, Training Camp is when Jameis takes his biggest risks, so Arians was probably trying to make him force the ball like he does in games in order to address his mistakes.
I really, really like it.
July 27th, 2019 at 7:25 am
99.97.92.55.47.40.28.20.7 Says:
July 27th, 2019 at 6:07 am
“This is the same coach who showed our HOF QB the door for no good reason”
Are you talking about Fitz????! ROFL!!!!!!!!
July 27th, 2019 at 7:27 am
I played football half my life and Imho, the game was always the easy part…
Practice should always be like it was yesterday…”Throwing the kitchen sink at Jameis” every practice will only make him a better QB… By facing a Todd Bowles defense every day come Sunday there won’t be much any other DC can throw at Jameis that he isn’t ready for…Personally I love the idea/logic…As someone posted earlier, iron sharpens iron…
July 27th, 2019 at 7:30 am
Remember, the pads weren’t on, there’s no real threat of a running game, there is no game plan. Of course the DB’s are looking for passes to pick. If you want to look at Jameis throwing picks as a negative go ahead, I’m glad the DB’s were in the same zip code. That was a great TD throw to O.J., who beat everyone, and a nice T.D. on a slant to Evans, a slant, about time! Look at it that way, Jameis was fantastic.
July 27th, 2019 at 7:35 am
Joe, I too thought Jameis looked like crap. I even wondered if my enthusiastic 20-6 prediction might be a bit to bold (just for a fleeting moment). But then I decided to exclusively focus on the defense.
Damn!
Bowles was bringing it from under grandma’s recliner!
It often looked like a ballet and I’ll tell you, if it wasn’t underwear football, Devin White would have had a ginormous number of sacks and tackles for loss.
I might be getting a new dog. Considering naming him Devin Bowles.
July 27th, 2019 at 7:36 am
10-6
July 27th, 2019 at 8:09 am
Joe –
You doing camp notes / observations at each training camp practice
July 27th, 2019 at 8:38 am
One site’s opinion and others are saying it was up and down. Personally what I hate seeing in practice or games is interceptions in the endzone that gets my blood boiling but if your talking about these picks but wont mention scotty miller running the wrong route on one then maybe your just not being completely objective and looking one sided as usual since this is the second story it.
July 27th, 2019 at 8:39 am
Well hope the opposing defenses play vanilla for jameis all year
July 27th, 2019 at 8:39 am
I’m living in the Twilight Zone. If you go back at previous years, you will see similar comments on Jaymiss.
July 27th, 2019 at 8:44 am
Nothing about the drops that hit guys in the hands either? Defense is usually ahead of the offense and used to the routes, I remember last training camp the defense looked good too. Way to early to exaggerate
July 27th, 2019 at 9:00 am
“It amazes Kobe why the job position of QB is like any other position
Why cant it be that JW3 is slowly improving and learning the craft
JW has foundation skills to build upon. JW needs more game experience. Whats wrong with that? Other QBs might be quicker to learn. Who cares. It is the cards we have been given
Kobe has repeatedly stated that the lightbulb/ drastic improvement will be when JW is 27/28 years old. That is 2 more years
This is the first year away from mike Kardasians. Finally with better coaching but it will still take time
Next year JW3 will be top 5 QB. 2 years from now JW3 will be the best QB in the NFL….
JW3 will not be QB of the Tampa Bay Bucs in 2 years
History repeats its self”
Kobe Faker
July 27th, 2019 at 9:02 am
Yes Joe, for every Winston pick you owe fans a detailed list of excuses. I mean just like in games, if Winston throws picks and it’s not 100% his fault, that has to be put into the analysis, because as we all know, the INT doesn’t count then. Sheesh Joe, get with it. (sarcasm obviously).
Joe, you got us through the drougt and now there is so much to read–Thanks!
July 27th, 2019 at 9:21 am
Way too early to get excited but hearing Bruce go easy on JW after running Fitz out of town so he didn’t have to look over his shoulder is giving me a queasy feeling. For now, I have to close my lying eyes to JW-loving joe’s critique and hope Bruce and Todd were throwing some no-win test at Jameis that was more about learning than winning. #iWantToBelieve
July 27th, 2019 at 12:17 pm
@ Kobe Faker. Regarding your 9am post. Came to the site late as usual. But what the he!! man. Who are you and what did you do with the real Kobe Faker? LOL.
Nice post. Well thought out big picture view on Jameis.
Enjoyable read. Thanks!
July 27th, 2019 at 12:32 pm
Someone is conspicuously absent from these JW threads…
July 28th, 2019 at 1:09 pm
Wow. I just shake my head at how much everyone assumes to know in these boards based on zero context or real info. I could picture all of you covering Miyagi-Do Karate back in ‘84:
“This Sensai is a joke!! No practicing technique or anything full speed. He has the kid waxing cars and painting a shoddily constructed wooden fence!! And don’t get me started on his scrawny excuse for a student… the hack was dripping paint all over the place and kept doing these stupid up and down paint strokes when everyone knows a sprayer is the way to go!!”