Bucs Clam Up When Accused Of Shady Accounting

May 28th, 2019

Harsh accusations against the Bucs’ hierarchy

Ten years ago, a popular Tampa morning radio host said Team Glazer lost a pile of cash in the high-profile Bernie Madoff swindle and might be selling the team.

Team co-chairman Joel Glazer fired back in a rare public statement.

Glazer called the comments from former goofball WDAE-AM host Dan Sileo “baseless, irresponsible and slanderous,” and he had other firm words.

Fast forward about 10 years and ProFootballTalk.com founder Mike Florio, the ex-attorney who is now the ultimate NFL insider, clobbered the Buccaneers organization yesterday for “essentially trying to pull a fast one in seeking $19.5 million from the Deepwater Horizon compensation fund.”

The Bucs filed what was known as a BP claim for losses related to the famous 2010 oil spill and ultimately a federal appeals court rejected them last week. Florio penned a follow-up story late last night repeating his claims of shady accounting by the Bucs rooted in the appeals court ruling, and noting that team spokesperson Nelson Luis said there would be no comment.

Yes, Florio has a far bigger audience than Sileo ever did.

Perhaps a comment is forthcoming from the Bucs, though Joe highly doubts it. Joe can speak with direct knowledge that a prominent local Bucs beat writer gleefully spreads lies about Team Glazer’s business dealings and Bucs officials are content to ignore it while an innocent third party is discredited. Joe will write that up here soon.

As for the denied BP claim, Joe thought it was hilarious that the appeals court ruling needlessly noted the Buccaneers’ 2010 record, and that the team hasn’t matched that 10-6 mark since. The won-loss record had nothing to do with the case.

Joe hopes further court appeals or public comments from Bucs officials clear the cloud of suspicion surrounding this matter. That would be good for the Bucs, and Joe loves everything that’s good for the team on and off the field.

69 Responses to “Bucs Clam Up When Accused Of Shady Accounting”

  1. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Stay classy Glazers, no wonder this is the worst run organization in Tampa sports. Trying to benefit from a disaster when the only disaster is your leadership of my favorite team.

  2. JL Says:

    If true what a bunch of s***bags!!

  3. BucEmUp Says:

    Too bad the lightning owner cant buy the team that would be the best thing EVER!!!!

  4. Buc believer Says:

    Joe I am SO glad you decided to write on their practices a bit. The Glazers are the ultimate insiders on how to get super wealthy from bucking the system primed with a little fleece the poor

  5. J Says:

    Definitely not a good look.

  6. Allbuccedup Says:

    If this is true the NFL needs to force the Glazers to sell the team. Its no wonder this organization is so bucced up.

  7. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Actually, their claim may have had some validity. BP was handing out barrels of cash to just about anyone who put their hand out.

    My daughter , a bartender on Clearwater Beach, got a nice 5 figure check. The true scumbags were the hotel and restaurant owners that forced their employees to sign a waiver, that they wouldn’t sue, so that they could get a motherlode settlement which they kept for themselves.

    The Glazers have always been a little ethically challenged, Florio should look at the ZAP.COM IPO AND THE $50 Million reward to move the team to Baltimore. Which Art Modell, head of the NFL’s relocation committee, allegedly stole from Malcolm.

  8. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Not just the Glazers took advantage of the Horizon fund, Tampa was only indirectly affected, by that I mean people in other parts of the country canceled events and vacations because of ignorance or connivence when the area had zero oil on the beaches…. there were many businesses that took advantage as Weiss many law firms advertising to help make claims.

  9. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    The Glazers are all about the money?

    Say it ain’t so Joe!!!

  10. Destinjohnny Says:

    With all the people in the pnhamdle that this truly truly hurt.
    For them to go after the money is like a healthy person parking in a handicapped spot then when a person that pulls up needs the spot…
    They flip them off

  11. Buddy Says:

    TEAM GLAZER and the entire Bucs organization is a complete and total JOKE. Trying for free money off a disaster.

  12. BringBucsBack Says:

    Maybe they were just trying to come up with enough money to keep GMC?

    This type of conduct is not uncommon in a capitalist society. We should only be surprised that the Glazers attempted this money-grab in a situation as public and difficult to complete as this. Igits!

    Why should we have compassion for a filthy, greedy oil company such as BP. They hold the world hostage in a number of ways and are a blockade for any real energy progress. Their profits only continue to grow and their pockets are bottomless. I believe they, and all big oil, owe all coastal or nearby residents compensation for destroying our planet for profit. I’m neither mad at the Glazers nor surprised.

    In his article Florio called the Gulf spill a “distant past tragedy” (similar, perhaps not verbatim-in the first paragraph). It is a tragedy but, it is not distant. As I am aware, chemicals were applied that caused the crude oil to fall to the ocean floor, out of sight. It doesn’t sit there harmlessly. These types of spills happen with regularity worldwide. Our oil-dependence is simply not sustainable! We are treating our only home like a garbage can, for the benefit of an extremely small number of individuals who see us, not as individuals but, as consumers. Yet, we hesitate to question the very system that allows this type of behavior to exist. Greed is NOT good!

  13. Bird Says:

    Will the real slim shady please stand up ..please stand up

    I see it every day in my job
    People want free hand out (money) in life without working hard for it.
    Why this country is going in the toilet.

  14. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    It was a business move as stated above. The Lightning did the same and won I think close to 1 million. As stated above there are many people in the US & world who are geographically challenged and have no clue that Pensacola is so far from Tampa and that the oil may not have impacted Tampa area but they cancelled their travel plans just because. The bucs were a crappy product on the field and that was the main reason for attendance but trying to get a piece of the pie that was being handed out is the right move even if it is a guesstimate on the lack of fans from other teams not coming to the Tampa beaches due to the oil spill

  15. Buczilla Says:

    I’ve been leery of these uber nerd looking dudes from day one. Shady stadium deal, putting most of their eggs in the soccer basket for a few years, and being reclusive has hardly endeared them to me. That said, they are f’ing superheroes compared to Hugh Culverhouse. 😁

  16. D-Rome Says:

    That’s really bad. I remember when Sileo made those claims and he was immediately suspended for a day. It goes to show you that for all the seemingly outrageous claims Steve Duemig made about the Bucs that he was never suspended, because he was right (i.e. Drug Shamster and mollies).

    As for Team Glazers, they’re a bunch of s***birds for trying this.

  17. Svenson Says:

    This doesn’t bother me. First off, I would not be surprised if Saints made a claim too–and because they were in Zone B, they probably got paid as their causation standard would have been lower than what the Bus needed to show. The Court’s opinion even acknowledged that at least one other professional sports team in the Gulf South made a claim (but the identity is confidential under the settlement).

    Also, just because the Bucs made a claim that doesn’t mean that if successful that they would have been taking money from other claimants who were more severely damaged. BP was ordered to pay over 5 Billion in funds. The potential class size was huge and assuredly many class members probably never filed a claim or opted out and pursued their own lawsuit directly against BP. The way the settlement was structured was if you could establish your damages and met the requirements of the agreement, you got paid. The burden was on BP because–you know–they were the bad actor here that dumped 500 million barrels of crude oil into the Gulf.

    The Bucs did get called out in the opinion for not being able to meet a pretty low causation bar, but I am not going to pretend that NFL franchise accounting is simple and not complicated. Or that most large corporations don’t engage in similar creative accounting.

  18. tmaxcon Says:

    Glazers are trash. They’ve destroyed a powerful franchise in man u and have trained the small irrelevant buc fanbase to accept embarrassing football with a smile…. every year the glazers rub the delusional optimists nose in dog crap yet you fools keep buying in and actually believe the glazers are attempting to win. Glazers are the nfl welfare babies and make no mistake about it revenue sharing is welfare for irrelevant small market bucs.

  19. lowercaseg Says:

    Glazers suck.

  20. Mike10 Says:

    “Drain the swamp!”..

  21. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    This looks BAAAAAADDDDD……….. One the Bucs’ ownership and management. And bad ownership/management permeates to all aspects of their business.

  22. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    *On the Bucs’ ownership….. (Will Joe ever allow editing?)

  23. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Okay, I see a lot of judgement here…but in truth, every business on the Florida West Coast was affected by the BP spill. The Bucs are a business.

    So I do not blame them one bit for filing…and frankly, their record had no bearing on the BP spill whatsoever. That statement should be ground for appeal.

  24. ChanEpic Says:

    @Svenson: “The Bucs did get called out in the opinion for not being able to meet a pretty low causation bar, but I am not going to pretend that NFL franchise accounting is simple and not complicated. Or that most large corporations don’t engage in similar creative accounting.”

    No personal offense intended but that kind of thinking: “Hey they all do it so meh” is exactly why this country is going to the Trump dump. This was a bush league move, and they are rightly being questioned about it and the Glazer motivations. The people in the know are saying they tried to pull a fast one here and I don’t think they meant that as a compliment. And, knowing what we know about the younger Glazers, it isn’t surprising in the least.

  25. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    The fact that the Lightning were awarded and the Bucs were not shows true bias against the Bucs…since they are part of the same community. More grounds for appeal.

  26. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Bird Says
    “Will the real slim shady please stand up ..please stand up

    I see it every day in my job
    People want free hand out (money) in life without working hard for it.
    Why this country is going in the toilet.”

    I disagree. That is certainly the viewpoint forced upon our society by the conservative agenda (of which I was a longstanding member…was), and Trump used intolerance to get elected, feeding off peoples fears (such as the poor taking from the middle class…an unreasonable fear. The truth was that the middle class are not part of the 2%).

    The upper two percent get away with paying zero taxes or close to it. They outsource jobs to other countries. It isn’t about ‘free hand outs’, it is about equal taxation and providing for our fellow man in times of need. Christ himself told us to give drink to the thirsty, food to the hungry, shelter to the homeless and to care for the unhealthy. The conservative party claims to be the Christian choice, but little they do shows it.

    And no, I am not a liberal. They have plenty of issues as well. Both have good points and bad points.

    But a bias against the poor is wrong.

  27. 813bucboi Says:

    greedy ba$tards!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  28. D-Rome Says:

    Bonzai, it’s one thing for a business to make a claim that they were impacted by the oil spill. It’s quite another to use creative accounting to try and make a claim to millions of dollars they would not ordinarily be awarded through a proper claim. It’s nearly fraud.

    Go ahead and keep pissing in the wind with what you think the Bucs should do, Bonzai. The fact remains is that this is a bad look for the Buccaneers and a bad look for the NFL.

  29. Dozer Says:

    More click-bait garbage from Joe on subjects he has no education about. Bonzai is correct. The BP claim / appeal process is very complicated and all businesses are allowed to make a claim and appeal if they don’t agree with the determination. The Bucs record makes the Glazer family look bad enough, this fake news rabble rousing is only helping to lose support for our team.

  30. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    D-Rome Says:
    ” It’s quite another to use creative accounting”

    I have news for you…every business in that process used creative accounting. The Bucs just didn’t get creative enough.

  31. Durango 95 Says:

    Meh. So what. It’s business. As noted the Lightning did the same and originally tried for 12 million. Bucs tried and lost.No big deal. If you don’t ask you don’t get.

  32. tmaxcon Says:

    Dozer

    Bucs are a league charity case and have NO support. Attendance and tv ratings prove it. Business directly affected like fishing and shrimpers should receive the bulk of money not some inland sports entertainment franchise that embarrasses itself for the better part of 40 years. Bucs make Cleveland look like the bronx bombers regardless of small market irrelevant bucfan delusional opinions.

  33. stpetebucsfan Says:

    I do NOT understand this story. My wife is a retired dentist who was in practice during the spill. Dental Associations (virtually all professional organizations) put out lots of information on how to collect in that tragedy. It was beyond commonplace.

    Seriously if you are asking me to feel sorry for the BP scumbags who butchered our Gulf Coast due to cheapness and carelessness…sorry I’ll take the Glazers not BP!!!

  34. T REX Says:

    #firetheglazers

  35. Bird Says:

    Bonzai

    Did you even read the actual article
    The were pretty much dishonest about financials /exaggerated to make a profit.
    That’s called fraud there buddy

    No need to respond to my comments cause you make posts that never really make sense. Not worth the time

  36. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Lol… ignorant BBB…ranting about “big oil” but happy with low gas prices and living with all the modern conveniences…. LoL

  37. miken Says:

    Go look at the Forbes article from 2002…. basically say Malcom got all his money in deals with shady accounting. We couldn’t spend as a team because real estate tanked 07 thru 2011. The soccer team was bought they same way.

  38. miken Says:

    @Joe… Doyou know if the team ever recieved money from the Jake Plummer contract?? Just the thought of that was crazy.

  39. BAFan Says:

    So the Lightening got paid by BP for the lack of ticket sales as a result of the oil spill, and you blame the Glazers for then filing a claim when they had reduced ticket sales at the same time? Perhaps the Glazers just hired the wrong lawyers. A smart lawyer would have realized the Bucs would have to overcome the suspicion that their circumstances were different because they had a losing record at that time and the Lightening didn’t. However, if that lawyer had hired a polling firm to poll fans from the different teams that played in Tampa Stadium against the Bucs to find out if the bad publicity about oil spilled on beaches played into their decision not to come to Tampa at that time, the result in court could have been just the opposite. Also don’t say the Glazers don’t want to win. If that were so they would have refused to pay for more coaches for BA then they gave Koetter. On our Offensive Team two of our starters were undrafted free agents who were developed to play at a high level at their positions: Dotson and our Expensive Center both. So you don’t have to give up top draft picks to fix the trenches if you can develop undrafted free agents or low draft picks to play just as well as first round picks. BA has used that method in the past to get miraculous turn arounds and it is legal. It just costs money out of the pocket of owners to pay for more coaches. The Glazers have come up with that extra money out of their own pockets. That is how much they want to see a turnaround. Without their Dad the Glazer kids have got to learn from their past failures how to win and they are doing just that. Give them a break.

  40. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    I hold everyone shameful for filing a claim without REAL harm

  41. tmaxcon Says:

    st pete

    big oil does far more good for the environment and research than any of those cause of the day libtard organizations that are all about fluff with no substance.

  42. Neal Says:

    BP is garbage. They destroy our state and provide nothing in the way of jobs or tax revenue. It amazes me that people defend them. They are literally a foreign company that hires their own people and takes our resources. i don’t really care what happens to them. I’ll never understand why Americans would defend a British company the steals your resources and destroys your home. If it were Mexico Petroleum yall would be losing you damn minds.

  43. tmaxcon Says:

    big oil spends billions on research, ocean cleanup (not only mistakes but general ocean clean up) and ACTUAL SOLUTIONS…. libtard wannabe environmentalists spend billions on media campaigns bashing big oil while never ever coming up with actual solutions. environmentalists never come up with solutions just chest pounding rhetoric and hollier than thou attitudes all the while being some of the biggest hypocrites on earth. solutions matter rhetoric and fluff is just political BS from mentally weak losers.

  44. tmaxcon Says:

    tho garbage on field product costs glazers ticket revenue not energy companies

  45. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    BringBucsBack Says:
    “This type of conduct is not uncommon in a capitalist society.”
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    This conduct has nothing to do with capitalism, and everything to do with social decay. Capitalism has lifted more people around the world out of poverty and oppression, than any other economic system ever devised.

    Litigiousness and our “get rich quick” [at someone else’s expense] society is a product of our socially-engineered loss of a moral compass and an education system/pop culture pushing moral relativism and hedonism on our children. Capitalism has nothing to do with it.

    Perhaps you are just tired of private property rights, and the ability to benefit from the fruits of your own labor. You believe a return to serfdom is the answer to your problems?

    You sound like you got one of those AOC economics degrees.

  46. Marine Buc Says:

    Let’s be honest. The Glazers boys are lost without Papa Glazer.. This team has been a putrid mess since his death. I honestly can’t even stand to look at their goofy ass pictures without puking in my mouth a little…

  47. chopshopp Says:

    I thought Joe wasn’t going to talk about this because it had nothing to do with Football?

    @Buc Bonzai, totally agree with you on all points.

    It has been said that Accounting is an art. How can it be when it comes to numbers, you ask? Because that’s where the creative interpretation of what can be categorized as losses and how much depreciation can be applied, etc. etc. Shell companies are formed to disperse profits to show meager profits per business with huge losses, etc.

    There’s a reason we have a saying, “Cook the books”. Because, the really skillful/sleazy businesses and their accountants can juggle things around. Why is it that Trump will go to the ends of the Earth to hide his tax returns? He doesn’t want you to know that he doesn’t walk the talk and the American people don’t get away with .5% of what he does. The rich get richer because of creative accounting.

    There was a loop hole during the Bush years, where if you owned your own business and had a vehicle above a certain weight (can’t remember the number now), it would be automatically considered a corporate vehicle with a tax write-off. All of a sudden you saw a whole lot of smart rich people driving a Hummer H1/H2 (at the time). This was no accident.

  48. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    “The upper two percent get away with paying zero taxes or close to it. They outsource jobs to other countries.”

    Tax carve-outs and destroying the US labor market and middle class are not the result of the “conservative agenda,” as you claim. They are the result of bought-off legislators in DC who sign whatever bills their crony-capitalist lobbyists write for them and pay them to sign. And crony-capitalism is not the same thing as capitalism. It is racketeering, and our illustrious FBI exists to root out corruption such as this. Now maybe you understand why Trump wants to drain the swamp so badly. Your lawmakers (who are supposed to protect you from monopolies) and your FBI (who are supposed to protect you from crooked lawmakers) are all corrupt. Corruption, not conservatism, is your problem. Unless you have a problem with the Constitution.

    “Christ himself told us to give drink to the thirsty, food to the hungry, shelter to the homeless and to care for the unhealthy. The conservative party claims to be the Christian choice, but little they dont shows it.”
    Last time I checked, charity is a personal choice. Our crooked government, whose members skim a large portion of your taxpayer dollars off the top of every penny they can force you to give them, has no business being in the business of charity. The conservative party has no business in the charity arena. YOU and I give to charity. Government only steals and tells you how charitable it is.

  49. tmaxcon Says:

    Barack

    Quoting a character from the worlds best selling fairy tale does not make him right or even real…. no one is owed a damn thing. Everyone is responsible for pulling their own weight….

  50. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    “environmentalists never come up with solutions just chest pounding rhetoric and hollier than thou attitudes all the while being some of the biggest hypocrites on earth.”
    .
    .

    As soon as environmentalists solve anything, they will lose billions in charitable contributions and government handouts. Solving problems is bad for business.

    Leftists create problems and then spend our money “working on solutions” for the rest of our lives. As soon as the sheeple realize this, we can really fix something. Like draining the swamp.

  51. SkBucsfan Says:

    Force the Glazers to sell. Vote with your feet and don’t go to games. If you watch it on TV, lie to the Neilson people and claim you were watching church for shut-ins during that time slot. Quit buying merchandise. Lobby the NFL to force the Glazers to go.
    I know this hurts people employed by the team and stadium, but short term pain for a couple of years that it may take is nothing compared to the 40 years of ineptitude.

  52. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    [Don’t go there on this site. — Joe]

  53. Bucsfanman Says:

    Interesting back and forth here. In the business community, the Glazers would be lauded. In fact, our Commander-in-Chief was lauded on the campaign trail for “smart”, legal business moves.
    Is it ethical? Therein lies the real question.
    As an aside, this type of fraud is rampant and most of it directly effects the tax-payer. Just type in FEMA and fraud. Literally 100’s of billions of dollars have been fraudulently obtained in this decade ALONE.

    Greed is just a symptom of our society. There are much bigger issues at play.

  54. Bucsfanman Says:

    Want to change “the system”? Simple. Take money out of politics.
    Does anyone really believe that corporations do not run D.C.? Heck, look no further than the “Sunshine State”. Ask yourself how someone who defrauded Medicare to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars can be ethically capable of representing Floridians. Yet, there he is.

  55. TOM Says:

    Glazers you need to sell the team. Sooner rather than later. What a bunch of low lifes.

  56. chopshopp Says:

    @Barask’s Crack Pipe,

    Please tell me you don’t think Trump is not neck deep in the swamp he supposedly wants to drain? Trump has always inflated or deflated his net worth based on the circumstance, omitted his debts and losses for loan purposes, falsified insurance paperwork to get lower premiums, failed to pay off debts by filing bankruptcy, etc. The guy is corrupt as can be. But, his business dealings have nothing to do with the government, but I find it funny that the kettle is calling the pot black.

    From a business standpoint, Trump is on borrowed time and borrowed Credit. He is hardly anyone to write a book on the Art of the Deal. LOL. We all saw how his attempts to be the “only President” to get North Korea to dispose of their Nuclear weapons went. His own staff and advisors told him not to sit down to talks. Not because War or sanctions is better, but because they knew the President would get pie in his face. And without even waiting for his jetlag from the first visit to wear off, he was coaxing people that he should get a Nobel Peace Prize. The guy is a caricature.

  57. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    “Quoting a character from the worlds best selling fairy tale does not make him right or even real…. no one is owed a damn thing. Everyone is responsible for pulling their own weight….”
    .
    .

    There is actually a large body of archaeological evidence which proves the life of Jesus, and many other historical figures and stories from the Bible are similarly proven out. You can bash Christian beliefs if you choose, and question the teachings of Christ, but you cannot question the historical accuracy of the Bible as it recounts his life. The more archaeologists discover, the more it is verified.

    I used to question Christ before I realized science actually backs Him up. Are you a science denier? 😉

  58. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    @Joe

    😀
    Just meant to be funny. Tell me you didn’t laugh just a little?

  59. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    “No one is owed a damn thing. Everyone is responsible for pulling their own weight….”
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    .

    I forgot to say: But yes, we agree on this point. That’s why charity is called charity and not obligation-ity.

  60. Buccfan37 Says:

    I agree with all of the comments opposing big oil and the destruction that it has brought to once pristine America. Blocking new clean energy technology with payoffs to corrupt politicians is the scam dragging this nation down.

  61. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Bucsfanman Says:
    Want to change “the system”? Simple. Take money out of politics.
    Does anyone really believe that corporations do not run D.C.? Heck, look no further than the “Sunshine State”. Ask yourself how someone who defrauded Medicare to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars can be ethically capable of representing Floridians. Yet, there he is.

    chopshopp Says:
    May 28th, 2019 at 12:32 pm
    @Barask’s Crack Pipe,

    Please tell me you don’t think Trump is not neck deep in the swamp he supposedly wants to drain? .
    .
    .
    .
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    chopshopp Says:
    “Please tell me you don’t think Trump is not neck deep in the swamp he supposedly wants to drain?”

    Trump has acknowledged this himself. He’s said he did what he had to do, including buy politicians, to be competitive. He also said that the system is gross and should be changed. Trying to actually do what he said is what makes him different.

  62. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Bucsfanman Says:
    Want to change “the system”? Simple. Take money out of politics.
    Does anyone really believe that corporations do not run D.C.? Heck, look no further than the “Sunshine State”. Ask yourself how someone who defrauded Medicare to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars can be ethically capable of representing Floridians. Yet, there he is.
    .
    .

    I agree!

    I screwed up the quote above.

  63. LargoBuc Says:

    Baracks crack pipe, great point. Everyone poimts fingers at the part opposite of them when partisanship has nothing to do with lobbyists and guilty lawmakers/politicians on bith sides

  64. T REX Says:

    BAFan Says:
    May 28th, 2019 at 10:07 am
    Without their Dad the Glazer kids have got to learn from their past failures how to win and they are doing just that. Give them a break.
    ———————————————-

    Say what? Give them a break? Why? We haven’t made the playoffs in 11 years. 11. Why should anyone give that type of incompetence a break? Explain yourself.

  65. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Yes, give Team Glazer a break…how else are they going to find the money to pay players not to play, coaches not to coach, and GMs not to GM? They just can’t help themselves.

  66. Pickgrin Says:

    Barack’s C P –

    You obviously have a good bit of awareness about what’s up – but don’t delude yourself into thinking that Drump is anything more than another rich dude jumping into politics because he knows there is a LOT of money to be gained for himself and his cronies. That plus the possibility of actually gaining the title of “world’s most powerful man” made a Presidential run an easy decision for a first class Narcissist like the Donald.

    All you have to do to determine whether an incoming President is truly willing to “drain the swamp” – or “fix Washington” or whatever similarly impossible “change” agenda they promised while campaigning – is to watch who they surround themselves with in key positions within the first few weeks of their first term.

    In this regard – Trump failed miserably – just as Obama, W. Bush, Billary, Poppy Bush, Carter, Reagan, Nixon and Johnson did before him.

    The USA has not had a “good” President – one who was truly willing to try and DO what was best for this country and its citizens – as opposed to being a puppet of the .01% – largely doing big money’s bidding – since John F. Kennedy was in the White House for a short 2 1/2 years. And we all know why Kennedy didn’t even get to finish his first term….. He wouldn’t “play ball” and do what big $ wanted.

    Trump is “playing ball”! How do we know that? Because he’s still President.

    Getting the money completely out of the Politic system at all levels from city council to POTUS is really the only way this country can be “saved”. Why more American citizens are not willing to make this one of their most important goals involving politics is beyond me.

  67. BigMacAttack Says:

    You clowns can shove your politics right up your Azzez. Idiots. Why here? Why do you have a polite this sports blog with political crap. GTFO!!!

  68. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Pickgrin Says:
    “… don’t delude yourself into thinking that Drump is anything more than another rich dude jumping into politics…”

    “… watch who they surround themselves…”

    “The USA has not had a “good” President… since John F. Kennedy…”

    “Getting the money completely out of the Politic system at all levels from city council to POTUS is really the only way this country can be “saved”.”
    .
    .

    I keep praying and hoping, but I’m used to being disappointed by now. I don’t discount any possibility. But I also keep preparing. Don’t be hypnotized.

    God bless John Kennedy. My dad has some silver certificate notes printed by Kennedy’s Treasury Department. We never understood the significance of those bills until I red-pilled my family. I treasure them.

  69. Rod Munch Says:

    It’s FREE money! It’s FREE!!! Just take it, it’s FREE!!!

    Anywho, the Bucs do literally rely on tourism to half fill the stadium most weeks – and with the fake news media pushing that the entire gulf of Mexico was now running black and telling northerners to stay away – well that’s what the fund is supposed to help with. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a BS fund as nothing actually happened, but that money the gov set aside has to be spent on something.