Yes, The Bucs Drafted A Kicker (Again)
April 27th, 2019
Drafting a kicker 2.0.
Joe is sorry if folks have a PTSD episode over the next sentence. The Bucs drafted a kicker.
With the organization and fans still stinging from 2016, when the Bucs traded up into the second round to draft an historic bust of a kicker, the Bucs went back for more today. But instead of using a second-round pick on a kicker, the Bucs drafted Matt Gay in the fifth round out of Utah.
If there are any freelance TV producers out there, Joe has a reality TV series to pitch. It is about Bucs kickers. It’s better than Dawson’s Creek even!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:10 pm
“Mormon Janikowski” – Rich Eisen
*sigh*
April 27th, 2019 at 2:11 pm
Haaaaaahaaaaahaaaa! Woooww!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:11 pm
At least it was only a 5th rounder this time…
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Oh god.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Playoffs!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Can he dubble as a gaurd?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
JOKE
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Better yet , the networks could fight over a Buc reality show. Would be the nations #1 rated comedy.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
LOL wow
April 27th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
A friggin Kicker !! I thought we were having a decent draft up to now. What a waste. Licht should be relived of his duties before the next round. I’m DONE.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:13 pm
This draft is only solidifying that Jason Licht is what he is.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:13 pm
No Guards or Tackles available???
April 27th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
Smdh….. just wow.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
At least Licht picked a kicker where a kicker should be drafted – in the later rounds.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
Why do we draft a kicker when it’s obvious we need more DBs!!! 🤦🏻♂️
April 27th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
Least inspiring draft I’ve ever witnessed!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
Where’s Ashton Kutcher?….This has to be an episode of Punk’d.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
What are we doing REALLY!!!, no G or Ot, or Dl or DT!!!!!! Really ????…..nope we are good…🤦🏻♂️
April 27th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
He wasn’t even the highest rated kicker.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
Kid looks a bit lumpy. Possibly doubles as a Guard?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
So basically Jason Licht has proven to be unable to evaluate DB’s and Kickers in his 6 offseasons here. So naturally he spends 4 of his top 6 picks on DB’s and Kickers to replace his previous failures. Genius!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
Superbowl.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:17 pm
Really Gay would be there in the 7th round
Cant run the Ball without an OLine
BS
I’m was not on the fire GM train
But Now I am
Ridiculous
April 27th, 2019 at 2:17 pm
This has to be Licht’s “F-U” to Bucs fans. They must sure be planning on some OL and RB FAs coming open.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:18 pm
Looks like he could play OT
April 27th, 2019 at 2:18 pm
Judging by the fan reaction the standard I’m seeing is that since Agryario busted that means we may never draft another kicker again?
Is this how y’all feel? Y’all need to get a grip. Never saw y’all overreact this badly before…………Have y’all calmed down about yesterday’s pick and realized what the plan was after a night rest?……..Or are you gonna overreact for 6 months til the defense shows improvement?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:18 pm
We gave up after the first pick it seems ……and just throwing darts at the damn draft board now…..lol… can’t make this up
April 27th, 2019 at 2:18 pm
Need. A. Guard.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Must be day drinking in that draft room and everybody besides Licht left the room for a piss break
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Kappa and Benenoch must have practiced like All Pros during OTAs… huh?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
They got us in the phone to laugh at us
Jason Licht I cannot support anymore
I can not believe what a beating he took a few years ago to actually think this was smart
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
To his credit, he’s hit every extra point last year, 4-5 from 50+, and I think 30 or 34 FGs? Yeah I know, so did you-know-who. But Licht’s improved no doubt…he only blew of 4th rounder this time!
To be fair, let’s see. Santos did not have range.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Bruce on EsLN right now
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
ESPN
April 27th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
He must be Gay.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:20 pm
Rick, they have their Guard. See picture above
April 27th, 2019 at 2:20 pm
I bet even this guy himself didn’t think he was getting drafted lol
April 27th, 2019 at 2:20 pm
5 picks on defense and a kicker. Gotta feel bad for Winston. Winston is in a produce it or lose it year and he has received no upgrades to help him so far. No improvement on the Oline no real improvement at running back. Bucs will be ready to pounce when teams need to get their rosters down to 53 before the season starts.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:20 pm
The guy is a stud athlete. Don’t know if he will be any good but we can’t be afraid to draft a kicker just because Robert was a bust. Drafted kickers are successful at a much higher rate than position players.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
Maybe they’re working on a blockbuster trade… GMC for a 7th rounder?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Hold on folks…this guy is so good he doubles as his own long snapper….
April 27th, 2019 at 2:23 pm
Barry Melrose 2.0 & Gump are definitely tanking for tua but the bucs ARE stil so far away from competing… going into the draft the bucs needed OL, RB, Edge, Slot, bucs hsve drafted none
April 27th, 2019 at 2:24 pm
I’m sure there is something else he does. Maybe he’s a PR too.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:24 pm
Is it too late to have Licht Baker Acted?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:24 pm
I can’t believe he just did that
I do not support our GM anymore
This kid would not be drafted
April 27th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
My board:
1. Ed Oliver
2. Dalton Risner/Greedy Williams
3. Darrell Henderson
4. Ok with our pick/ Christian Miller?
5. Amani O. CB Penn State
April 27th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
shouldve been Cole Tracy….but, lets hope he’s great!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
What the f***!! Are we doin ….
April 27th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
You kidding me? GMC for a janitor per J Lite.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
The biggest problem I got is Licht has been trying to fix the kicker for half a decade. He has wiffed every time.
Don’t know who scouted Gay but I sure hope it’s somebody new.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
Frees up $800k on the cap since Santos is gone… so there’s that.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
Let’s be serious here though. The Bucs have two kickers on the roster now, and they have been practicing without any fans or media presense. There is probably a reason they did this. And yes, we know Santos did okay for the most part but he didn’t have a lot of range. So I’m happy to defer on this.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
Licht mailed this draft in.
What a colossal abomination.
This is on the Glazers though for retaining this loser.
The Bucs will have the #1 overall draft pick for the foreseeable future.
Arians should just quit. I know I would.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:27 pm
All u fake azz fans should jump ship!!
In two years this draft could look like the best in years. A potential stud Inside Linebacker, two man press CB’s with Bunting looking like a potential lockdown, and kicker….yes a kicker who looks accurate from not just inside 35 but deep as well.
#JumpShip#Trolls
April 27th, 2019 at 2:27 pm
Joe
I know you don’t like me and moderate my comments although I am sometimes right. And just busting your nuts
Ask Licht
“ do you realize that this kid would not have been drafted. When good players on the board why would you draft a kicker “
“Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth “
April 27th, 2019 at 2:28 pm
Wonder how many other GMs chuckled.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:28 pm
Great! Now when our kicker misses the field-goal 60,000 people will scream AAWW Gay!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
Is his place holder still available? We can trade up to get him. 🙂
April 27th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
What I don’t get about this, is the kid has a HUGE leg, can do kickoffs – and we just gave one of the worst punters in football $2.7m/year because he can handle kickoffs…
Anywho, my confidence in Licht to fix the kicking issue is basically zero, but hopefully I’m wrong. Hopefully…
April 27th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
Jarhead
Terrible movie by the way
I like the draft up until you take a guy that wouldn’t get drafted in he 9th round
You should have played poker before
Kickers don’t get drafted anymore
John Lynch drafted a punter not knowing round 7 would be his shot
April 27th, 2019 at 2:30 pm
Jarhead,
This draft shouldn’t have shook out this way. If we drafted worth a damn then we wouldn’t need to repeat and neglect the trenches. Fans should be irate. 11 years of irrelevance and we are all of a sudden kk with continuing to draft DBs and Kickers, while not taking any damn linemen? Sheeeeeeeeeeit 💩
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
JimmyJack, the team can draft another kicker sure. Jason Licht however should never do that. Kyle Brindza, Roberto Aguayo, Nick Folk, Chandler Cantanzaro. The dude literally CANNOT EVALUATE KICKERS. Ive never seen someone be worse at their job that Jason Licht at evaluating a kicker. So let’s have him burn a 5th round pick on one shall we?
It should be noted that when Licht was trading up for Aguayo in Rd 2, Jon Robinson, new GM of the Titans and former “protege” signed Aldrick Rosa’s. Rosa’s would end up becoming the Giants kicker the following year and make the Pro Bowl and 2nd team all Pro in 2018. The Saints would go on to sign Will Lutz who’s made 87% of his FG’s. The Texans would sign Lou Groza winner Ka’imi Fairbairn who has made 85% of his FG’s. Licht not only traded up for a kicker that year he took by far the worst one when the rest were signing as UDFA’s. Which most kickers sign as.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
Greg
😂
They have a pr issue
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
Fired ? Licht should be shot (not really) but so many needs and we get a kicker 🤷🏻♂️ That’s just Gay !
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
I’m still waiting for the shoulder-length hair guy. Just for those 90-90 days, 90 degree temperature and 90% humidity.
Hopefully, he uses Juicy Green Apple Shampoo | Suave Essentials®.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
I have sent it before on here. This season is not about being competitive and chasing a Super Bowl ring. This is about saving Jason lights job. He’s trying to win with the players he drafted or paid money to. If we go six and 10 or better Winston and will get a huge contract and we will be done for the next five years.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
Oh Jarhead. Problem is, we’ve seen this flick too many times. Only thing I hope for is the media deciding to call this draft a complete and utter failure. May be the only thing that will reverse the history of us winning the off season and completely failing the season.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
This draft is on Arians …. he must truly believe we are ok at G and RB. We will see how how great of a coach he actually is.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
BA obviously ok’ed this pick..
We need to find some consistency at that position too…I can totally understand Lichts obsession with fixing the kicking game…It’s cost him and Jamies alot of W’s since he’s been here…
April 27th, 2019 at 2:32 pm
Every year we blame the previous coaches for these bonehead picks. At some point you have to look at the common denominator and that is Licht. Your GM has to be the guy who applies logic and reasoning to the process. Knowing when to say, we are taking the best players available, If they match a need even better. This makes Licht look like yes man. Just doing the bidding for whomever is coaching. This is a failing philosophy!!!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:33 pm
hes moving to saftey
April 27th, 2019 at 2:33 pm
In the last 5 years
DE drafted-2
Kickers-2
It’s a Bucs life?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:33 pm
Memoirs of a “Gay”sha
April 27th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
There is no issue at RB, as for G, yeah, I don’t know what they’re doing unless they really think Cappa is the guy. Even so I’d be taking an o-lineman to have them in the pipeline since there is no depth there.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
6-10 does not equal huge contract for Jameis.
No shot. If anything he gets franchised with a .500 or lower record.
Winning football gets paid.
We can just try and draft another QB and pay them the rookie wage, while paying proven talent around it. The winning formula- sans tom Brady- bc he takes less for more.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Tom S. I agree with that. I darn sure hope Licht let’s someone new scout this K.
Remember the ST coach in his interview and was intrigued when he talked about evaluating Matt Bryant.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:36 pm
Licht thought his last name was Guy…
April 27th, 2019 at 2:37 pm
Guys, you’re looking at this wrong.
Who is one of the greatest special teams players of all time? That’s right, Detroit returner Mel Gray.
This kid, Matt Gay, has the same initials, and the same number of letters in his name.
This this a brillant pick!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:38 pm
Munch we got two Guards that got a lot of experience as depth guys. Our depth at T does look as good but at G is not so bad…….Whose gonna start and be our future there?….that’s the question.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:38 pm
Also something else to ponder: Maybe our new ST coach from ATL scouted THIS kicker and not Licht (finally). Its evident Licht had no clue how to evaluate kickers, so maybe a new set of eyes is what we need.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:39 pm
Licht went from getting worse by the year to getting worse by the round.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:39 pm
Actual Jason Licht quote: “We really liked what he put on tape. He would kick the ball and it would go between those two tall poles. We understand you get points for that which is good. Also, he has a little girth to him and we really need a Guard so there you go!”
April 27th, 2019 at 2:40 pm
None of us know Jack $hit right now. BA and Bowles have had input.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:42 pm
No issue at RB… Eagles Rams Bills Vikings ALL have a better running back’s and address that position. Licht it’s just going force last year running back bust of a pick on us. When we’re 30th and rushing again and Jamies is turning the ball over Three times a game because he’s having to throw at 60 times let’s hope our kicker can bail us out.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:44 pm
Anyone that thinks BA is calling the shots is Drunk
Licht bro
Licht poo
Licht beer that has no alcohol content
April 27th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
If this is a joke its on the fans. I noticed Wingo had a hard time keeping a straight face when talking to BA.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
@ bucfanin ….Yeah your right. Giving a punter pinion 3 m a year then signing santos 2m this year and drafting another kicker. Sure Arians and Todd definitely put in word to draft another one.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
JimmyJack – Yeah, I meant get an offensive lineman in general. I was actually thinking you try to get a swing tackle that can play guard in a pinch just to give depth, but I’d be fine with depth anywhere as in my world I’m cutting Evan Smith ASAP as he was God-awful last year. For those who hate Benenoch, they should really hate Smith as he was so bad he was the cause for Benenoch starting.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:46 pm
BucfaninMi,
I do know that Licht has drafted these same potions, with premium picks, several past drafts and we are still trying to fill the same damn holes.
It’s one thing to strike out like a mofo in FA, but this draft cements that last draft picks by Licht we’re beyond horrible.
Why can’t we draft BPA? Bc we are stuck trying to let the wrong guy scout our talent.
I hope I’m wrong, it as a fan this is tough to stomach. The JBF community could do a better job with the selection process.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
Man you guys are funny!!! You are going nuts over a pick that has less than a 1-10 chance of making it…8% according to stats.
It doesn’t matter if it was a guard, tackle, RB he would still have a 90% BUST RATE. That of course would have folks here going nuts about Licht when the guy finally busts. It also why Licht does as well with UDFA’s as 6th or 7th round picks. You get to negotiate with ALL the remaining players and find the HUmps and Brates and Barbers and bring them into camp.
Some good news and bad news. First the good…if any player of value would drop to the 5th it’s as likely to be a kicker as anyone because the rest of the positions are valued more and so totally picked over.
The bad news…folks are excited by the prospect of many of these new picks meaning that other teams will be cutting vets when the rookie pick beats them out at a far cheaper salary.
Problem is we don’t have a ton of money to invest in these FA’s who get cut due to cheaper rookies. Yes there will be a lot of them but how many can we afford?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
Jason the Toad lichter. Please put down the vape pen!
April 27th, 2019 at 2:48 pm
Bucs Fans
Let’s remember Bruce Arians is no idiot he’s a hell of a foot ball coach and he has put together a damn good coaching staff let’s let them work. We haven’t even seen this kid kick on practice field yet who are we to say 10 mins after this kid is picked he’s already a failure. Let’s hold out judgement until we see these guys in training camp and pre-season before we jump off the deep end. There have been plenty of 5th round picks to surprise people in the George Kittle and Richard Sherman whose to say this kid doesn’t go out there and kick the crap out of that ball and help win us some games. Let’s give it time guys and see how it plays out
April 27th, 2019 at 2:49 pm
I like how Light goes against conventional thinking. This could be a genius pick. I suppose our new coaching staff is enough to bring out the best with what we already have. Most of these picks will either supplement what we already have or elevate our overall talent to get us to the promise land. We shall see
April 27th, 2019 at 2:50 pm
Trade the entire franchise for a seventh
April 27th, 2019 at 2:51 pm
I wouldn’t want to be in ticket sales at OBP….
April 27th, 2019 at 2:52 pm
Actually,
Joe, PLEASE do a fan poll….
If we were to offer Jason Licht for a seventh, how many teams would bite?
April 27th, 2019 at 2:54 pm
I think OL is the biggest area that needs better coaching.
All signs point to poor coaching from the last few years. Didn’t develope one player entire time. Multiple players out of position. Guys changing positions with failed results. Rotating RGs.I highly don’t our blocking schemes matched our players best attributes.
Coaching will make a difference and finding good interior lineman is not nearly as difficult as Dork made it look.
April 27th, 2019 at 2:56 pm
If Gay wins the job and performs we will be a better team and this was a good choice.
April 27th, 2019 at 3:02 pm
Joe’s… do us all a favor and shut your website down. One Joe is a crybaby little kid over Devin White. The other’s apathy is stupid. First we have a head fan and podcaster who is a child molester, now these bozos blast the Bucs all weekend. Sick of this pathetic site
April 27th, 2019 at 3:04 pm
hahaha ..I kept waiting for the run on kickers after the Bucs in the 5th round
……….and nope, didn’t happen
reach …should’ve been 6-7th round
this pick should have been a RB
April 27th, 2019 at 3:04 pm
JimmyJack – I don’t foresee how they don’t just hand him the job. This wasn’t a late 5th rounder, this was a high 5th rounder, a place where you can get a LB still, or a quality backup offensive lineman. To skip on that for a kicker means he’s your kicker, period. If he’s any good then it’s a solid pick as most 5th rounders are wastes. If he isn’t any good, or he loses a game or two (something Roberto never did) then he’s a huge bust – not in so much that a 5th rounder didn’t make it, but that Licht whiffed on yet another guy.
In any case whoever was scouting kickers (and corners), I hope those guys from previous years were all fired. But since I didn’t hear about the scouting department being cleaned out I’m guessing that wasn’t the case.
April 27th, 2019 at 3:05 pm
At least now we know which jersey 813broccoli will constantly wear!!!!!!!!!!
2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!
48hrs until the return of “The Buc Realist” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
or OL
April 27th, 2019 at 3:14 pm
Jason Licht isn’t making these pics people.
April 27th, 2019 at 3:14 pm
Kickers and punters going all over the place now. At ease now fellas. You could argue we need a kicker more than most teams. Especially the last 10 years.
April 27th, 2019 at 3:21 pm
Remember BA’s take long ago. Not interested in drafting OL because they take awhile to develop.
This dude is SERIOUS!!! He wants to win THIS YEAR! He already told us all that drafting OL is for the future and anybody drafting them year is getting somebody ready for the next coach because short of the stars like Nelson they take time to develop.
He also told us that he really loved our offensive personnel…amazed at inheriting this much talent…remember he believes in JW. Then he DID admit that the defense needs work.
So we draft all defense and a kicker and after all that BA has already said how can anybody be the least bit surprised.
Remember Maya Angelou’s famous quote? “When someone tells you who they are believe them!” BA told us who he is and what he wanted to change on this team and this draft reflects EVERYTHING he’s already said. Perhaps we should start listening to him.
April 27th, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Jaboo Buc: LMAO
April 27th, 2019 at 4:27 pm
jason always said, life is like a box of chocolates
April 27th, 2019 at 6:50 pm
For the people who say kickers aren’t important…How many games have we lost because of poor kicking? I don’t care if we draft a kicker in the 5th round, as long as he’s a good kicker.
April 27th, 2019 at 7:02 pm
They did NOT need to use ANY draft pick to get Gay…….he ABSOLUTELY would have not been drafted….WHY? BECAUSE NO OTHER FREAKING FRANCHISE IS THAT FREADING STUPID !!!!!!
April 27th, 2019 at 7:02 pm
FREAKING STUPID!!!! *****
April 27th, 2019 at 7:04 pm
For the Aguayo pick haters:
past performance is not indicative of future results
April 27th, 2019 at 7:35 pm
Other teams after us drafted kickers, and we drafted the highest rated one, according to draft outlets. He would’ve been drafted by someone else. New England took a punter. Are they a stupid organization?
April 27th, 2019 at 7:55 pm
The guys drafted after this kicker hurts, smh.
April 27th, 2019 at 9:12 pm
Quit yer belly achin’!
A kicker is supposed to be one of the top scorers on the team. We need that, because Santos is going to kill us!
Fifth round is a good time to get the one you want.
This is NOT a repeat of Aguoyo. This is a good move.
April 27th, 2019 at 10:16 pm
Since the NFL has gone to the 7 Round draft in 1994, there have been 45 kickers and 44 punters drafted. It’s a fairly common occurrence. The only team to not draft a kicker or punter in the last 25 years is the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans, if any of you want to switch teams because of who we took in the 5th Round.
Source: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=SPECIALISTS&type=position
(Note that the 2 kickers drafted this year are not on this list)
April 27th, 2019 at 10:18 pm
How can a guy working at one bucs place as a seasons ticket liaison possibly seek tickets after this draft. He has to be dreading Monday like super bowl Monday.i bet there’s a 75% chance of every ticket rep being sick next week
April 27th, 2019 at 10:53 pm
Worst draft ever..
April 27th, 2019 at 11:37 pm
Our fan base is so dumb even the media is bad.
Joe, I know you’re not belittling a kicker pick in round 5 with a terrible track record of special teams.
Why do we suck so bad as a fans?