“Why Is He Still Here?”

April 1st, 2019

Team Glazer talks GM Jason Licht

A popular question among Bucs fans since January surrounded the employment of GM Jason Licht.

Why is he still here?” many asked.

Well, Joe asked Team Glazer that exact question last week. After all, Team Glazer knows best.

JoeBucsFan.com: About Jason Licht, a lot of fans, they look at the record and they say, “Why is he still here?’ What’s the best answer there?

Buccaneers co-chairman Joel Glazer: You gotta look at a lot of different aspects. One aspect is continuity. While the record hasn’t been what I think he would want it to be or what we would want it to be the last several years, when you look at the entire organization, part of problems can be constant turnover in all areas. So we felt it was important to keep continuity there. If you look at our drafts and some of the players we re-signed, that’s a result of good drafts. You’re never going to bat a thousand in the NFL Draft. But we do have some key players that have been drafted. We lost a couple of players in free agency this year that other teams coveted. Again, because of our cap situation, that was the situation we were in. You can look at some positives and you can look at some negatives. We felt at the end of the day, when you look at the entire picture, continuity was important and him bringing in Bruce [Arians] and their relationship we think will give us a big step forward, a big jump on this upcoming season.

Raw answer there by Glazer. Joe appreciated it.

It was interesting. What Glazer never actually said is something simple like, “Jason is a good general manager, among the best in the league. Or, “We like his body of work. He’s done a good job with personnel.”

Joe thinks what wasn’t said is telling. But ultimately is all moot. Licht is here and his job is to work with a powerful head coach and raise the game of his personnel department and mesh it with Arians’ plan. Like Team Glazer, Joe believes Licht can get the job done.

In many ways, Licht is operating with a clean slate — and yeah, it needed a good scrubbing.

34 Responses to ““Why Is He Still Here?””

  1. AlteredEgo Says:

    same reason as Jameis….just to make sure before the final answer

  2. Frank Pillow Says:

    In reading btwn the lines, it seems like what JG is actually saying here is that Licht’s tenure/contract was extended as part of the Arians hiring…especially giving his view on continuity (mentioned it twice) and Licht’s relationship to BA (and the role he played in helping bring him here).

  3. Iron Wombat Says:

    Well Dirk and Lovie’s left overs hadn’t managed to develop anyone so can we even judge most of Licht’s draft picks?

  4. Lord Cornelius Says:

    It’s because he brought in Bruce Arians IMO. Otherwise he probably would have or should have been let go.

    Glazers also got burned so hard by Mark Dominik that Licht looks like a drafting savant by comparison when he’s below average to average at best right now.

    Dominik drafted 2 decent players in 5 years basically. One was a top 3 pick in McCoy (a guy tons of fans hate) and then you have Lavonte David. Drug Martin was a bust for a 1st round investment and never deserved another pay day. Pathetic. He left the cupboard completely bare when Licht took over
    -sh1t O-line
    -no QB
    -sh1t weapons
    -sh1t D-line
    -sh1t LBs outside of David
    -sh1t secondary that has never been fixed

    At least if Licht leaves us we have a lot more worthy young chess pieces to build around for the next guy

  5. K2 Says:

    I believe that coaches do have a tremendous influence on the players selected in the draft. If I look at the Bucs offense…they have a lot of talent. Clearly, there have been some terrible selections on special teams and defense. There will be a number of tells on defense this year; 1) do the players we have get coached up, 2) what talent level do we pickup in the draft, and 3) how do our free agent signings perform. It seems that we had a lot of hits on offense, but a ton on misses beyond linebacker on the defensive side of the draft. How much will the coaching staff change the tide. I still believe we have enough talent to win now. Bucs offensive will average above 30 points a game. So, if defense shows up…we can win more than we lose.

  6. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Licht is a horrible GM and there is nothing to say otherwise. he drafted a kicker in round 2 bypassing all of the numerous needs the bucs still need as of April 1, 2019. Licht has had a different theme every year he has been here from the tall wrs to building the bucs into a bad team in cap hell. The bucs have the nfls worst rushing attack and the highest paid OL currently

  7. tmaxcon Says:

    glazers have no desire to filed a winner. left overs, has beens and losers that what the glazers look for in players, coaches and staff…

  8. Adrnagy Says:

    In a shocking move, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have acquired Andy Dalton and a third round pick from the Cincinnati Bengals in exchange for Jameis Winston.

  9. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    adrnagy thats a crazy move, i am on the ol myspace timeline searching sportstalk barry & saw that…..time to get the red rifle out!!!!

  10. pelbuc Says:

    Licht is still here bc this organization is clueless from top to bottom. He bought himself another year bc of the Arians hire but his body of work in the draft and free agency is abysmal at best. After 5 yrs and to be this bad and this broke is very telling. Oh, and let’s not forget Jameis is still an unknown entering his 5th year. SMH! Don’t expect miracles from Arians until someone who knows what they ‘re doing start getting real players.

  11. Anonymous Says:

    He essentially said he would t be here if they didn’t hv an eye on Arians a long time ago !!!

    At least that’s what I heard !!

  12. doolnutts Says:

    If Licht was unable to get Bruce Arian’s we prob have a new GM right now… There is no doubt Licht’s relationship with Bruce helped bring him aboard.

    Winston, Hargraves, and last years draft class also could have major implications on what we do with Licht next year. Winston playing well this season and gaining a contract extension will go a longggggg way for Licht to make the case that he deserves an extension. You can draft a kicker in the 2nd round and potentially survive but you cannot survive drafting a QB 1 overall only to watch him fail. Licht/Winston’s fates are without a doubt tied together at this point.

  13. D-Rome Says:

    Backstabbin’ Jason Licht’s “continuity” has led to a 27-53 record. A stretch that is **WORSE** than Mark Dominick. That’s an amazing feat and very hard to do, especially when many other teams can turn it around in two years.

    That should give everyone pause.

  14. Defense Rules Says:

    Joel Glazer’s response to your question Joe seemed quite telling in what it DIDN’T SAY. For instance …

    Joel: “part of problems can be constant turnover in all areas”. IOW … ‘Yes we had a lot of bad players that Jason acquired for us who we had to sh*t-can, but we won’t discuss that right now’.

    Joel: “we felt it was important to keep continuity”. IOW … ‘I wanted to fire EVERYBODY, but my brothers reminded me that we wouldn’t have a team if I did’.

    Joel: “You’re never going to bat a thousand in the NFL Draft”. IOW … ‘Granted Jason’s only batting .100, but add one lousy 0 to that and what’ve you got’?

    Joel: “Again, because of our cap situation, that was the situation we were in”. IOW … ‘Our lawyers recommended that we keep Jason around until we figure out what he did with all our money’.

    Joel: “You can look at some positives and you can look at some negatives”. IOW … ‘We’re positive there were a lot of negatives’.

    See, opportunity missed Joe. Kinda like the guy who invented the Tuning Spork?

  15. Bucsfanman Says:

    Defense Rules- Hitting the sauce early eh?! “Tuning Spork!” I almost lost it, LOL!

    Really though, why is he still here?

  16. JimmyJack Says:

    It’s very hard to accurately judge a GM. Just look around the league. Not all GMs have the same responsibilities. Some of them make all the personal decisions ……While others are told which players to get by the Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder’s & Grudens of the league.

    A lot of decisions are made behind closed doors and are not public knowledge……….Like the decisions to hire Dirk Koetter. Nobody knows if that was his decision

    There’s a good chance that a guy like DeJax was what Dirk wanted and not Jason. Maybe thats part of the reason the HC was fired & not GM.

    Don’t think Jason was the driving force behind every decision made that he gets blamed for. And if he didn’t hire Dirk then I say he deserved a chance to bring in a HC he hired…….I’m willing to give Licht this shot and let this season play out.

    Now go nail that #5 pick baby!!!!! And find us a few more rookies gems.

    GO BUCS!!!!

  17. DB55 Says:

    The million dollar question imo is why didn’t the glazers hire Gruden when they had the chance? Assuming they had a chance which there is no reason to think that they did not.

  18. 813bucboi Says:

    he’s still here because he doesnt develop the players….the coaches do…..simple as that….

    they couldn’t develop mud if we gave them dirt and water…..

    #REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  19. stpetebucsfan Says:

    There are some unwritten rules to debating one of which gets violated on this board whenever Licht’s name comes up.

    Put aside FA’s…desperation causes desperate moves which rarely work out well.

    But as for drafting…you can’t argue from the specific to the general or the other way back. A GM with great draft picks doesn’t mean one of them might not stink…or the other way..a GM with a rotten pick doesn’t mean that ALL his picks are rotten.

    So folks come here and constantly bring up Aguayo and other second rounders. That’s specific. But also specific is a 4th round pick who just CASHED IN. He must have been an excellent pick! Or a UDFA who also cashed in…a real steal. We could list picks like Brate, Godwin and others as good picks.

    IMHO when you look at the totality…the general results Licht has have actually done pretty well.

    Now let me violate that rule of arguing from the general success to the specific.

    When you have the #1 pick in the entire draft you simply MUST get it right. I believe the verdict is still out on JW. I think he’ll blow up this year. If he does then Licht’s reputation as a drafter is cemented. Fair or not…if JW busts then so does Licht despite all the other good picks.

    As JW goes this year so does Licht.

  20. Buc believer Says:

    “Because of our cap situation that was the position we were in” and who the hell is responsible for that?? Jason Gump!!!!

  21. Anonymous Says:

    “Backstabbin’ Jason Licht’s “continuity” has led to a 27-53 record”

    And Les Snead went 31-49 with the Rams with WAY more draft picks his first 5 years.

    Not saying that’s the case here but if you need an example of the power that bad coaching can have then just look at the Rams and Jeff Fischer not developing sh1t for 5 years before McVay came in and had them in the playoffs year 1 with the same QB that looked like the worst QB in the league by far under Fischer.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    “him bringing in Bruce”

    Those 4 words are the primary answer to your question Joe

    In his 5 years here, Licht has made quite a few obvious “mistakes”. (Collins, ASJ, Aguayo, Swaggy etc.)

    Jason has also acquired a # of very good to great players for this team (Evans, Winston, Marpet, Howard, Godwin. JPP, Vea, etc.)

    The biggest reason this team is 5-11 in back to back years – is NOT because the GM sucks…. It’s because a large # of “good” prospects that GM Licht has brought in – have not been coached/utilized/developed properly yet. Many of them have a more than reasonable chance to fall into the very good category once they are “coached up”. I’m talking about good prospects like Hargreaves, Spence, J. Evans, Rojo, Stewart, Cappa – all taken in the first three rounds over the last 3 years but the Bucs are still waiting for them to “develop” into reliable starters.

    Nassib, Davis and Whitehead all achieved some level of starter status last year but there’s 3 more (still young) players that can improve a good bit with better coaching and especially schematic usage.

    The talent cupboard that Dom left this team with was quite bare when Jason Licht walked through the door 5 years ago. Everyone seems to forget that your current Buccaneers roster was a complete rebuild from the ground floor – out of necessity. Dom drafted exactly 2 very good players in 5 years. And the 5 years prior with Chucky and Bruce Allen were basically just as bad drafting wise.

    That’s 10 straight years of bad drafting that Licht had to try and overcome.

    Mistakes were made along the way – but not acknowledging the good overall job that Jason Licht has done in loading this team with talented young football players – is not dealing in reality. The Bucs have more good young talent than most teams in the NFL do.

    Now its time for BA and his staff to prove it!

  23. JimmyJack Says:

    Buc believer……..Our cap situation ain’t that bad as they say. Don’t buy that crap.

    If your upset about the free agent moves that’s different. But as it stands most of our roster is owed anything in the future.

    You can question how are we going to pay some players in the future but if that’s the case that means they are good players.

    Just let the Bucs get good first then we can be great.

  24. Jonathan Lipnicki Says:

    Because he delivered on Arians. That is all.

  25. Anonymous Says:

    Our fans are delusional. Flat out delusional. When we go 6-10 this year, what will be the excuses then?

  26. BrianBucs Says:

    Comments like this show why the Bucs will never be winners under the Glazer boys

  27. Anonymous Says:

    Does anyone seriously think this guy will be here after next season? Bucs are sure good at wasting away years.

  28. Anonymous Says:

    Does anyone actually think he’ll be around after next season? The Bucs are good at wasting away years. Come to think of it maybe this bum will be around for more seasons ugh.

  29. Anonymous Says:

    If you don’t like licht you are wasting your time just like some of you who complain about Winston. BA is trying to win now and is a proven winner, why would he give any kind of final decision to licht on who to keep and who to bring in? I believe he lost right on who to draft and who to sign or cut and BA will be teaching him how to build a team as well. He will at least be here as long as BA unless this team is trash this year which I doubt

  30. Tom S. Says:

    Worst owners and worst GM in professional football. If the Browns make the playoffs in 2019 as expected it will become official. I hope some of the writers that cover this franchise and can’t help but defend them and the incompetent GM find other jobs to suck at when we go 6-10 this year.

  31. Joe Fornito Says:

    Licht is a terrible GM. You can sugarcoat that anyway you want. Bad draft picks even worse free agent signings. I believe most people on this website could have had better draft picks than Licht. We are in cap hell and in need of quality players. this situation was created by Licht.

  32. Anonymous Says:

    I just look at the roster and can’t help thinking that other than Mike Evans (who is a top 5 WR) and OJ Howard (who is a top 5 TE), this roster is devoid of “elite talent”. Certainly no feared Rb’s! OurQB is a HUGE question mark going into season 5! Marpet is a nice player, but the rest of the Oline is average to mediocre at best! Our defensive line…JPP had a nice year, but is on the wrong side of 30, Vea is decent and hopefully improving, McCoy has slowed down, Nassib was a decent pick up, but is hardly a “game-changer”, and the rest are not exactly frightening to any opposing offense! At LB, Lavonte is solid, if unspectacular, the rest are nothing to write home about! The secondary? After lots of high picks, we still allow opposing QB’s to complete 70% of their passes! Kickers? Don’t even get me started!

    So where does that leave us? 2 “elite” players on offense, a couple average or better on defense, and a few youngsters like Godwin and Vea who have potential. Hardly a ringing endorsement compared to other teams.

    No top15 QB! Not top 25 RB! No “game changers” on offensive line or defense! A “Swiss cheese” secondary! Not even a reliable kicker!

    I think that is a fair assessment of Licht’s current roster.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Lucky I’m not the owner. My answer would have been, “Because we wanted him.”

    end of answer.

  34. BringBucsBack Says:

    I wish I could suck at my job for 5 consecutive years, blame my incompetence on others and be kept-on for continuity’s sake! ‘Merica!