Upgrade? Yes. Now What?

April 26th, 2019

Yes, this morning you have a sore hand from all that high-fiving over the Buccaneers’ upgrading at inside linebacker last night.

Don’t squeeze the coffee cup too tightly. Ice the hand and think about how Bucco Bruce Arians professed he wanted to reload this roster, not rebuild it.

Joe’s not sure which one occurred last night, but Joe is certain Round 2 will shape the story. The Bucs pick No. 7 overall when the NFL Draft clock re-starts at 7 p.m.

It’s a safe bet Joe will need a fresh roll of toilet paper and a mop if the Bucs don’t draft a player in the trenches with their next selection — offense or defense.

The only other thing that would keep Joe continent would be a running back; that’s how shaky the Bucs are at that position.

Texas A&M center/guard Erik McCoy would be very high on Joe’s list for a Round 2 selection. Is Ryan Jensen going to be here beyond 2019? Doubtful. And McCoy seems like one of those no-risk types: checking all the boxes from captain, to raw strength, durability, versatility, intelligence, production and leadership.

Joe’s already written about another top center/guard option out of Mississippi State, Elgton Jenkins. He’s in the same mold.

Would the Bucs really skip the trenches in the first two rounds of this draft?

Yeah, Bruce Arians said you get fired if you draft for need. But you also get fired for being softer than your opponents on most weeks.

62 Responses to “Upgrade? Yes. Now What?”

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    I’m wasn’t high fiving….

    Should’ve drafted Ed Oliver

  2. Bucsfanman Says:

    On this Joe, I agree. The trenches simply cannot be ignored.
    There are good players still on the board, OL and DL.
    Get it done Bucs.

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    We actually need a tackle worse than guard…..

  4. Bucsfanman Says:

    Anthem- I’ll bet a case of beer that Wilkins has a better career than Oliver. We’re all guilty of falling in love with players before the draft. White was the safe pick. That’s the bottom line. What they do next is what I’m interested in.

  5. Kevin Says:

    CB could also be an option. Greedy and other corners still on the board. Trenches are important but so is coverage.

  6. Costa Rica John Says:

    Still plenty of highly rated OL, DL, and CB’s left. We should get a good player in round two.

  7. rrsrq Says:

    I think the decision in the 2nd round will be tougher than the 1st. With all the guys in the trenches and need at DB, it should only be easy if Jaylon Ferguson falls to the Bucs.

  8. Bird Says:

    Cody Ford can play guard and move to tackle next year. Or stay at guard. Kid is a behemoth and Risner , Taylor are no slouches – right guard. and get Ferguson at end of second so lil baby Joey can stop his fussing. Poor little guy can’t stop crying. Someone give him some keys to play with.

    Today is the big day . 2nd and 3rd rounders.
    Hope they may 3 picks in these rounds.

    Need three more starters after devin white yesterday.
    Excited for Bucs.

  9. Bird Says:

    Right tackle

  10. Bobby C Says:

    At some point you have to simply ask, why do we continue to overthink the process of drafting. Apparently each year, we can’t see the sun because it’s too bright outside, I agree with you Joe we want devin to be amazing, but with Josh Allen and Ed Oliver both available, we say everyone is an idiot , we will draft someone else, we continue to reach for players that we can’t afford. We will chase other players in round two and three for the trenches when you could have helped ourselves and took the need instead of takin a luxury. This is why we can’t win more than a few games each year, we will get DL help later, we have to take white, really. Last year again, we don’t need derwin James, we want Vea to be amazing, but when your need is staring you in the face, TAKE HIM , WE COULD HAVE HAD DERWIN JAMES AND JOSH ALLEN, instead we overthink our pick and take VEA AND WHITE. Please fire Jason Licht already, he just doesn’t get it.

  11. louden Says:

    I vomit over the Buccaneers Organization.

    This Offseason showed:

    This regime will lead us to a bottom spot again…

    Since years, it´s always the same Bull sh… it:

    “We want to win now” mentality – pure Bull sh… it

    this Roster so damn weak, holes all over.. clearly you have to build sth. first before you can win any meaningful games…

    All the Clemson D-liner.. all the great O-line prospects…

    the most important positions after QB…

    the Bucs simply suck in the trenches…

    and now with the opertunity to actually build and good O and D – Line..

    they “waste” the pick for an LB..

    which is low value..

    with an premium Top 5 pick..

    Could have adressed the LB spot next year…
    or the next 2 draft rounds…

    But Buccaneers Organization is as Clueless like Joe – who wants to draft a RB, while the O-line sucks..

    guess what,

    not even Barry Sanders would be a great RB on this current team….

    Sucks to be a Buccaneers Fan…

    i will laugh about all the “fans” and “experts” who see the Buccaneers making a run to the playoffs 🙂

    they should get the Orange Jerseys back – this is how much they suck.

    they are not worth to get the nice Red and Pewter and White and Pewter jerseys

    They are the Suckaneers! lead by Jason Licht(weight of a GM)

  12. louden Says:

    that´s why i won´t watch Suckaneers Games this year.

    Not worth the time
    and money – such a lousy “professional” team.

    without being over my head: i would run this Organization better than the current GM.

    i´m realy angry at the Glazers – seems like they either don´t care, or are simply to dump to run an NFL team, while i think they simply don´t care about Football.. maybe soccer

  13. dmatt Says:

    Clemson’s Christian Wilkes will shock the NFL. He is a freak of an athlete at 315 lbs. My wish was that we traded down then select Wilkes n get extra picks to stack the defense then work on offense. Wilkes can play any position on offense. This guy can catch like a receiver run like a rb/fullback, bat down passes, play DE n DT, rush standing up just a freak. I can c him b n a miniature Warren sapp. The Devon white pick was ok n if he’s used the right way, maybe he can b a another ray Lewis or LT.

  14. spicoli Says:

    This is why you don’t skip breakfast, folks.

    Please grab a Snickers

  15. Alexstotle Says:

    So I’m not the only one that hated the idea of getting a LB with the 5th pick. Damn it Bucs! This LB better be a Pro Bowler this year or I hope we change GMs!

  16. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    Could be cb…

  17. Rob Says:

    Hey Louden, wish you would step out from the ledge my friend lol. Actually, you and the Joes should relax about the Bucs picking White. He will be the defensive captain, call all the defensive plays, probably play for the Bucs for his entire career, and be part of the reason the Buc’s defense is no longer laughable. I would have cheered getting Josh Allen too but the heart of our defense was non existent and we really had no team captain on defense. White was right. Let’s see what happens with our pick today and remember our defensive schemes were so putrid and our defensive coaching so poor that we are bound to improve in nearly every category on that side of the ball with the new regime. Go Bucs!

  18. Bird Says:


    See yah later.
    If you are not gonna watch the Bucs games then no need to post here either.
    Bye bye now


  19. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    There are plenty of good players left, and we pick high in both rounds 2 and 3, so I hope we find some Gems.

  20. Wombat Says:

    Unfortunately it looks like the Joe’s don’t understand how a 3-4 defense works as they don’t see what White’s role will be. This front 7 just got a whole lot better last night. To quote a poster on here, “the sheep will soon understand what just happened”!!!!!!!!

  21. Bird Says:

    Can joe and some of these whiners start a book club or something

    But instead of talking about your favorite book :

    Change each other’s diapers and cry on each other’s shoulders. Talk about your favorite baby toys.

  22. EvolvingBucsFan Says:

    Ok Guys 2nd round coming and we could land some great players still Please Jason Don’t go stupid, we could still get……Jaylon ferguson, Jawaan Taylor, Dalton Risner, Zack Allen, are still available and i’d be happy with any of those. Jaylon Ferguson is a JPP clone, look it up, and has the measurables AND production… but DT position scares me with the depth we have behind VV with Beau “Fat Thor” Allen and with McCoy looking to be out the door.

    2nd round needs to be BPA… DE/EDGE, OT/OG, DT period.

    3rd round CB,S,RB.

  23. Tackleblockwin Says:

    I can see us going oline in rd 2. Especially if Bucs think there is a guy sitting there that can start immediately. That is value. On D there is still tons of good players too. Somebody will draft DE/OLB Chase Winovich in rd 2 and be getting a huge steal.

  24. TampaTown Says:

    You are gangsta my friend. Love it

  25. QUE589 Says:

    2nd rd – Safety
    2nd rd – Guard (trade back into 2nd)
    3rd rd – Edge

  26. SteveK Says:


    White is a fine player, but philosophically you cant pass on Ed Oliver there. You take the freaky athlete at 3 technique all day. Oliver also has a fiery personality and that is exactly what we need on our DLine. A monster and a tone setter.

    I hope White is an all pro that makes us forget how Dom passed on Keuchly twice in favor of Mark Barron.

    Was last night’s pick made if we had correctly selected Luke Keuchly way back when?

    Between Dom and Jason we have a lot of losses and confusing draft selections.

  27. louden Says:

    I´m just so damn sorry for the fans that are hoping and thinking,
    that this season is gonna be any different than the previous.

    I don´t write much here anymore – because the Suckaneers just aren´t the time, but i still …

    year after year i hope to see improvement (roster-buiding-wise),
    just so i can go into a season, with hope of actual improvement from the year before..

    but it is always frustrating…

    so with typing this down; i just want to “warn” some fellow fans who just don´t seem to figure it out:

    If you want to see a competitive and talented Football team – just don´t waste your time on this Suckaneers again this season.

    And if you agree that this Organization is run (like) by some random Amateurs, than start boykotiing this lousy “professional” team..

    Heck, those guys in the offices make so much money.. i ask for what?!

    being one of the worst franchises in sports history isn´t hard to accomplish..

  28. BucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Believe Allen was the pick , but I predicted yesterday that Licht Brain might do exactly what he did. That is water under the bridge and Buccos did get the best LB in the draft. Now it is time to fill the pantry by amassing as many Round 2 picks as you can , even if that means trading some future picks away , because this is a freakishly good Round 2.
    Sorry Joe , I do not see Ryan Jensen going anywhere as he will only be 31 at the end of his deal in 2022 , and his salary money stays the same in years 3 and 4. Jensen does require some more talent on his right and there are plenty of incredibly talented tackles available to replace Dotson. I personally like Risner due to his talent and his mean streak , let’s get nasty on the O-line and pound the rock. There are also 2 awesome WR’s , but personally I like DK Metcalf. Metcalf has superior size , speed , and great hands. Putting Metcalf opposite ME would be frightening for any defensive coordinator we face.
    Please get some extra picks in Round 2 Licht Brain as there is a crop of talent that we desperately need to harvest.

  29. Architek79 Says:

    (So much hate from unbiased reporting)????

  30. BucsFanSince1976 Says:

    Louden STFU and go away. The usage of words and misspellings tell me that you may be a RUSSIAN. I am sure there is a place for you in the GRU trying to get someone elected somewhere.

  31. Easy Says:

    If Cody Ford is still available when we pick you have to draft him! Solid RG who would solidify the trenches on offense.

  32. Bucnjim Says:

    I’ll be crying tears of laughter when this D is the best it’s been in 10 years.

  33. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    BucsFanSince1976 Says:
    April 26th, 2019 at 7:52 am

    I agree…..this is a fantastic group of players in round 2…..we need to trade up to get 2 of them…..Oline, CB are there…..I think we can stay and pick up a great player.

  34. Buc1987 Says:

    TBBF…or maybe a kicker?

  35. NOSBOS Says:

    rrsrq I totally agree.

  36. Guwop.Buc Says:

    Some of the worst “fans” in all of the NFL. Devin White is a luxury? Jesus Christ, you can’t help stupid.

  37. NOSBOS Says:

    And I also agree with folks saying Wilkins is about to be better than Oliver. With his poor balance and lack of hand technique. Warren Sapp said to Chris Carter during oliver’s Pro day “those 3 cones ain’t gone help you tackle QBs” leads me believe he wasn’t all that impressed. Neither was I.

  38. FrankPillow Says:

    Joes, right premise but tired slant on the article- continuing to bash the White pick. I watched the kid absolutely take over games and destroy teams- was at the Fiesta Bowl and he put LSU on his back and made plays all over the field and forced turn overs. Strange too that you no longer acknowledge what you’ve long professed regarding the development to impact time it takes for young DL/DEs in this league.

    There are plenty of excellent players left in this draft and I agree the ‘value’ here is in Rds 2-4. Let’s go out there and bolster our DB corps, OL, DL and RB. At this point draft order is far less important than getting the best, most talented high-motor player available. Sure, Licht’s record in Rd 2 is downright terrifying…but I want to, have to believe we’ll get an impact player or two in addition to White.

  39. Jackwagon Says:

    Dalton Risner for sure…turn in the card.

  40. OBP Says:

    I would love either Greedy or an O-lineman (Ford, Risner, Taylor, McCoy). Wouldn’t be mad though if we went with Adderley or Winovich though.

  41. stpetebucsfan Says:

    The draft is never a binary choice…occasionally it comes close as in 2015 when QB needy teams like the Bucs had to pick between JW and MM.

    Mostly though there are more than just a few great players available and especially in the top 5.

    My point…no matter who we selected there are good players we could not select. It’s time to stop crying over all the players we could not take.

    BTW We were not the ONLY team to pass on Oliver. The Lions passed on him to take a TE!!!! Only the 4th TE to be taken in the first round in 20 freaking years and in the top 10 at that!

    The Steelers traded up to grab a…wait for it…ILB!!! What do the Steelers know about defense? SMH

  42. Pryda...Sec 147 Says:

    I’m sure I punched a table last night,

  43. Sport Says:

    Im loving how this JBF Community is rallying around this pick and allowing the new coaches room to execute their plan.

    More head explosion for this Joe if a few OL are gone and B Murphy, G Williams, N Adderly, T, Rapp are on the board. I’m not feeling DL on the current board at 7 in the second.

  44. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Scroll down the picks yesterday and match the front office with the player taken….telling….Jags…Falcons…Steelers…Panthers…on and on…
    Licht feel in love with LSU and DW…it was a safe blankee pick….now build the trenches numbnutz

  45. Todd Says:

    Naysayers…you all SUCK!

    Shoo. Go away. Go slit your throats after playing your next game of Madden in your mom’s basement.

    We tire of your gamma natures.

  46. Maze Says:

    Nope they should draft a corner or running back in round 2

  47. Not there yet Says:

    This is where your credibility comes into question. Let me get this right after all this whining about a linebacker over a pass rusher you would be ok with ignoring the trenches for a freaking running back? Really joe!!!!! Can’t make this stuff up how crazy some people think. You really think running back is more of a need than a safety or corner? I got my eye on Adderly or someone like that but there’s plenty of d line help left. You need to take a look at best players still available because we should come out of this draft with two starters. Licht just don’t think to hard because you suck in the second round

  48. Bucsfanman Says:

    LMAO at the people jumping off the ledge over White! Such a dumb pick, right? I mean why on Earth would we draft a guy to lead the defense who was the top LB in the draft from a historically strong defensive school?! Just dumb. Especially when we have so much LB talent on the roster! I mean, why go with the safer, smarter pick when you can take a chance that a guy who, LOOKS like Aaron Donald, with pedestrian stats, who had a killer combine, from a powerhouse like Houston, MIGHT become a top-tier pass-rusher?!
    Oh the humanity! So dumb!

  49. Billy_43 Says:

    Do we dare take Greedy or Murphy?
    Was talking to a Saints fan last night, who said we should draft Greedy.
    He also likes LSU obviously.

    I said we just took 2 CBs in the 2nd last year.
    He said yeah but they couldn’t cover us.

    He is right.
    With taller, longer faster CBs now the mold, if Greedy is there, we SHOULD take him. Dude SHUT DOWN DK Metcalf.

    Stick with best player and NOT need.

    Way too many elite DBs gonna start coming off the board now with a host of good WRs and RBs. Get OL at the end of the 2nd or start of 3rd.

    If that happens you know BA is running this show, because Licht wouldn’t draft another CB if his mom told him too!!!

  50. Defense Rules Says:

    Agree with you wholeheartedly on this one Joe. I’m also certain that “Round 2 will shape the story”. Also agree with your NEXT remaining NEEDS: DLineman, OLineman and RB. I just want the Bucs to choose the 3 BPAs who meet those 3 remaining NEEDS. The order is dependent IMO on what the other 31 teams do.

    Several RBs who I like, but Damien Harris in the 3rd or 4th Rnd would do just fine. And If Jaylon Ferguson is there when we pick in Rnd 2, Bucs have to pick him. Personally think he’s got the potential to be the best of all the DEs/OLBs in this draft.

  51. Vorblaw Says:

    Wait.. We have some pass rushers… See JPP See Nassib… We don’t have linebackers.. After LD we goth nothing… But you bitch about the White pick… We have a center.. See Jensen (Why are you thinking this is his last year btw? And you’re advocating for….. another center??? CB and OT are far greater needs. What is going on with this site Joes? Y’all are losing it.

  52. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete (formerly known as 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs Fans) Says:

    The best RG in the draft would be a good pick in Rd 2…

  53. Erik Hesson - Fine Artist - City of St Pete (formerly known as 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs Fans) Says:

    Erik McCoy would be perfect…. Stick him at RG for a couple years til Jensen’s gone, then move Erik to Center

  54. Joeypoppems Says:

    Greedy Williams or trenches. Thats where Im at with round 2.

    OL prospects left are better than DL prospects. Ford, Taylor, McCoy, or Risner would be good picks

  55. danr Says:

    but do you pass on metcalf for a lineman?

    What if you love a running back?

  56. D-Rome Says:

    Don’t squeeze the coffee cup too tightly. Ice the hand and think about how Bucco Bruce Arians professed he wanted to reload this roster, not rebuild it.

    I would have preferred Josh Allen but truthfully it takes at least a season before a rookie DE gets settled in. The Bucs are in a win now mode. Devon White helps them do that.

  57. Cobraboy Says:

    Ford or Risner in Round 2.

    OG needs to be fixed.

  58. stpetebucsfan Says:


    “I would have preferred Josh Allen but truthfully it takes at least a season before a rookie DE gets settled in. The Bucs are in a win now mode. Devon White helps them do that.”

    Amen! Exactly. Meanwhile Noah Spence was off to an outstanding first year until his shoulder blew up. If his shoulder is truly healthy I’m high on him again…or perhaps I’m just high eh.

    If we had drafted Allen the same year as Spence came to us what makes us believe there would be a giant difference? Allen doesn’t play that well with his hand in the dirt…just like Spence…his game is speed and quick moves.

    If Spence’s shoulder is truly healthy I want to see what Bowles can do with him by not playing him out of position like Smitty.
    Allen looked like a Spence clone to me.

    Allen 6-5 262 4.66 40 Spence 6-2 251 4.7 40

    Similar size…same speed…and same style of play.

  59. JaCon Says:

    If we were not going to trade down i would have rather wasted #5 pick on a running back or a receiver at least those positions can have an impact but MLB what the buc?

  60. wideleftandright Says:

    Your still a new Bucs fan i would bet. .386 winning pct all time and probably something like 7-8 winning seasons all together .Out of 42 years.
    I love the Bucs and went to ALOT of games but the price of wins is extraordinary.

  61. TOM Says:

    Dalton Risner or Zach Allen

  62. SOEbuc Says:

    Trade back into the second:

    Pick 1: OL
    Pick 2: CB Lonnie Johnson