Bucs Failed Gerald McCoy

April 2nd, 2019

Management doomed him.

With the start of voluntary (keyword there) offseason workouts yesterday, the big news was that long-time stalwart of the Bucs defense, stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, was absent.

For GMC, who likes to portray himself as a team leader and has been a standup guy in every way through his nine seasons with the Bucs, it was maybe a sign of things to come.

His departure from the Bucs.

This offseason, both Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht and Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians refused to publicly commit to GMC being on the roster come September. Arians has gone so far as to say GMC isn’t as good as he once was (who isn’t?) but he would still like to have him back. Licht also said in a perfect world GMC would be back.

But for the first time in recent memory, the Bucs are in salary cap hell. GMC’s $13 million per year price tag at age 31 seems to be a bit more than the Bucs can currently chew. It’s also a pretty big obstacle in trying to move him to another team.

Throw in the fact GMC may not be a fit in the defense of defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, it seems GMC’s days with the Bucs are rapidly coming to a close.

Sadly, a lot Bucs fans associate GMC with losing because the Bucs have done a whole lot of losing since GMC was drafted in 2010. He’s never snapped on a chinstrap in a playoff game. Only twice have the Bucs had winning seasons with GMC.

Why does GMC take so much hell from Bucs fans? He’s a visible guy. GMC enjoys the klieglights of the TV news cameras, thus, to many Bucs fans, he is the face of losing, as opposed to quiet star linebacker Lavonte David.

If you want to go all baseball WAR, the Bucs have a worse winning percentage with David than with GMC. But nice guy David has never been comfortable being the center of attention, thus fans do not associate David with losing nearly as much as they do GMC. David is not in the public eye as much as GMC.

Last night on “Late Hits,” heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Friend of Joe co-host Alex Marvez said the handwriting is on the wall for GMC leaving the Bucs and that it took too long for the Bucs to build a defense around GMC to take full advantage of his talents.

“It’s been unfortunate,” Marvez said. “You know, the Bucs have tried to surround him with good defensive talent but I think by the time they finally got things going it might have been too late.

“If he does shift to a 3-4 defensive end, is that really the right system for him?”

Joe doesn’t think it’s a stretch to suggest the Bucs, as an organization, have let GMC down and largely have wasted GMC’s talent (and $100 millions+ of Team Glazer loot). Just look at some of the moronic decisions the suits at One Buc Palace have made since GMC came aboard.

The two biggest numbskull stunts the Bucs pulled off with GMC on the roster was running off Michael Bennett for no good reason. Bennett may someday may be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Then, the purely idiotic move of cutting — not trading — future Hall of Famer Darrelle Revis. Only the Bucs would cut loose potentially two Hall of Famers in a span of 12 months. Truly braindead moves!

(The penance for these two moronic decisions should be the old Commanche trick where a culprit was bound and staked to the ground in the middle of a bed of red ants.)

Want more ammo of how the Bucs have let down GMC? How about Ghost Johnson and guitar-strumming, gun-totin’ Da’Quan Bowers? Or giving up on Mark Barron, Mason Foster and D.J. Swearinger?.

In fact, the Bucs this decade have drawn up the blueprint on how not to build a defense. It is truly shameful.

78 Responses to “Bucs Failed Gerald McCoy”

  1. Steven007 Says:

    “For no good reason” maybe the most often used phrase on j BF since it’s inception. Well, there is the “Americas quarterback pro bowler” drivel too.

  2. Architek79 Says:

    This is an apathetic perspective.

  3. Dapostman Says:

    McCoy has been a good pro player. I would rate his career between a B and a B+. Problem is he isn’t an A player. Sapp was an A player. Donald is an A player. It was going to take a whole lot of more than McCoy to turn the Bucs defense around. Sapp had Brooks, Lynch, Barber and later Rice. When I think about the Bucs defense since 2010 or so I think of Pink Floyd’s Another Brick in the Wall. Nobody has really stood out.

  4. Hahahaha Says:

    What a terrible take from JBF. Saying Bennett will be a HOFer is stupid and saying not trading Revis vs cutting him is stupid. Bennett will not be a HOFer and Revis had an untradeable contract with $16M a yr guaranteed. Whoever wrote this is a McCoy homer and I feel bad for you and do not respect this take at all.

  5. Joe Says:

    What a terrible take from JBF. Saying Bennett will be a HOFer is stupid

    You clearly do not study the merits of candidates for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And Joe never wrote Bennett will be a Hall of Famer.

    and saying not trading Revis vs cutting him is stupid.

    Why it was so smart to dump Revis that is less than 24 hours Belicheat signed him and won a Super Bowl with Revis as one of his starting cornerbacks. You may be the first person to suggest Belicheat is stupid. But you be you. Nothing like washing your hands of a Hall of Fame cornerback in the prime of his career and getting absolutely zilch for him. Go ask Todd Bowles how great Revis was in 2015.

  6. Pick6 Says:

    He’s the Bucs’ Joe Thomas. Was witness to a parade of lousy coaches and flawed rosters. Wasn’t blameless in the losing but wasn’t the reason either. I hope both he and the Bucs are better for the parting. He wasn’t what everyone wanted him to be but he’s good enough to find more success elsewhere than he had with Lovie and Mike

  7. Bucsfan951 Says:


  8. Hahahaha Says:


    Pats got Revis for $11M for the 1st year and $12M for the second yr guaranteed and didn’t give up any draft equity or players to get him. If tbey traded for him from the bucs they would have given up picks or players and then also would have paid him $16M a year. He wouldn’t take a pay cut for the bucs as you should remember. He had an untradeable deal. It was cut him or pay him.

  9. Sport Says:

    It seems to me the turning to point for some fans turning on GMC was Hardknocks. You just can’t ‘unsee’ him in that damn kimono, prancing around in the gym alone to the Sooners fight song, Batman comic nerding (yes, I turned it into a verb) and actor wishing. It doesn’t fit the typical football badass and has blinded those to the point of not being able to see anything else. Including his better than average production as a DT over his career! I can see both sides of it.

    Clearly BA was negotiating with GMC by those remarks, trying to get his price tag lowered for this year, because to Joes point the trade value isn’t there, especially with this draft class.

    Michael Bennett – HOF..? As others have said, its not the Hall of Good, its the Hall of Fame.

    Darelle Revis – we weren’t close to being a Superbowl team, yet keeping this salary cap assassin is still on top of your list to rant about? He was average to slightly above average for us, compared to his peer group in the NFL, compared to the Bucs secondary post Donnie A and Brian K, he was outstanding. Let it go Bro…

    As far as letting L David off the hook, I’m with you. By FAR the most disappointing from him was an interview after his late/out of bounds call early in the season a few years back admitting it changed the trajectory of his play from that point forward. that told alot about the man and showed tremendous weakness and that is a definite contribution to our losing ways.

    A good leader he is not.

    There is a key ingredient to being a leader….followers! And, unfortunafely, he brought the team down with him at that time. DB would have never handled it that way.

  10. DB55 Says:

    Film don’t lie, go cue it up.

    Honestly if you ask me the jolly green giant is either retiring or moving to DE bc he’s way too skinny to play inside, but wtfdik.

  11. Lamarcus Says:

    I beg to differ. We surrounded this GMC with good talent. The “For the no good reason” team wasn’t as good playing here as they were for other teams. That’s a fact. GMC is supposed to make players better around him with that type of talent. Self proclaiming he is “a 3 tech and 3 tech only” kinda set his own football development aside as in Donald a 3-4 guy is having video game stats and deemed the best football player today. GMC has not been good since Donald enter the league. That’s when I turned more focused on him. And every game it’s the same routine to a piont he has no other football move but a quick step to no where. Then he quits mid play if he doesn’t win. He looks easy to defend and I’m no coordinator. He has never had no power to consistently out muscle his block. Good community guy and even better man but this football NFL man. GMC is the highest paid buc of all time and his fanboys out weighs the haters Joe…just FYI. Trust me

  12. Jean Lafitte Says:

    He’s been putting pedestrian numbers up for quite while and it doesn’t match the amount of loot he’s taken from team Glazer’s. We were told he would be a disruptive force once we put players around him. Vita Vea and JPP outplayed him. Vita did it in half as many games. He’s not that force inside we were sold a bill of goods on. Bennett was pedestrian as well. Only once in his entire career did he have 10 sacks in a season. He averaged 5 with us. Completely overrated. We all maybe dead and buried before that guy goes into the hall.

  13. '79 Defense Says:

    Nice article Joe. Funny how some people love to compare him to Sapp and, therefore, he’s terrible. Or that he gives the team years of effort and is dependable overall, yet some people want to treat him like a bust. I’ve said it before, he would have been better off in some ways being a true “bust” as he wouldn’t have the morons still after him to this day.

    There have been plenty of players in Bucs history who deserve far more blame for their effort and actions, yet this guy, who seems like a very solid human being, at least from what we see, is going to receive a standing ovation from some for being shown the door. What a joke.

  14. Lamarcus Says:

    Never saw David as a leader because of his makeup. I saw this thing on David he said to a NFL scout that his best trait was his smartness. But boy he plays his position way better GMC does his. David is the fumble maker. David has some serious athletic ability and put it to.good use. David is a top 10 linebacker in any NFL season. I’m happy with David more than if we had Keuchley given his head injures. He doesn’t get as much love and credit as GMC does. He does have miss tackles and he cant cover to save his life. When David took over play calling the defense got better last year.

  15. tnew Says:

    This article, trying to turn GMC into a sympathetic figure, will turn even more fans against him.

    Let’s try to be factual and not turn Bennett into Reggie White. A quick check (I wanted to make sure my memory was correct) in the football reference reveals he had one season of double digit sacks (10), three Pro Bowls and 0 All Pro. He’s only been the NFC defensive player of the week once. If he gets into the Hall, whoever is presenting him is a wizard. JPP is on his way to become a first ballot if that is the case and GMC’s game didn’t elevate to superstardom last year. It was much of the same thing that was seen for his career.

    Revis.. Lovie not being able to work him into his system was horrible, but no team was going to trade for that contract. $16million is a ton for an ageing corner now. 5 years ago it was in the stratosphere. The biggest failing was trading a first for him to begin with coming off of an ACL injury.

    The person that the Bucs have TRULY failed is the Buc fan. This fan base has been raked through the sewer for a generation. I don’t feel sorry for the highest paid player over that time period. Every season, I defended him and hoped this would be his breakout year.

  16. Nick Says:

    Thank God this chapter is really closing. Please don’t put leader at the front of this guys name ever again.

    The Defense will be good this year for one reason only! Our heartless leader will be gone!!! Go Bucs !!!

  17. stvcl Says:

    My idea of an outstanding player is one who makes everyone around him better. Geraldweenie has never been outstanding but the dude got paid like he was. Walk the plank and good riddance.

  18. Big Slick Says:

    Can we cut GMC and sign Suh? If we’re going to have a 30+ high priced DT I would prefer Suh.

  19. Matthew Says:

    Gmc93 is beta and always will be beta. He should be federally indicted for the massive bank robbery he pulled off in broad daylight in Tampa Bay. The day we get rid of him we become a better team. Losing is ok with Gmc93 as long as he gets paid, can play against a backup guard 3 times a year to rack up some meaningless sacks and get injured and have to only play 3/4 of a season like he plays 3/4 speed on 3/4 of the snaps. He doesn’t have the over-my-dead-body gene and will never be a true leader in anything he does in life because he doesn’t have a true focus. Watch his interviews listen to his dribble. Blah blah man I dunno it’s blahblah. No accountability no passion no drive no heart, just a self-loathing millionaire because he’s 6’3″ 300ish. If he had 10% of Allen Iverson’s heart he would be a Hall of Famer. So Gmc93 take your final check and do us a favor and 🚶 away.

  20. DooshLaRue Says:

    I’m so sad after reading this article.

    Not for Old Softie93…..I can’t wait till that chump is gone …. but for the Joe who wrote this sad drivel.
    I think he must be suffering from some feminine version of CTE.

    Very, very sad.

  21. Anonymous Says:

    Trade him to the Browns for Duke Johnson

  22. Anonymous Says:

    Still embarrassed when he apologized to big Ben while mic’d up for everyone to see. Weak

  23. Bird Says:

    Yah. It’s unfortunate. But it happens to all players. Father Time never looses.
    I agree- We did waste McCoy’s time here.

    I don’t think McCoy should be upset with Bucs though.
    They have made him a very rich man. Very rich.

    And I’m still a little shocked he did not come forward to redo deal. I know that is not a players responsibility but in all fairness he got paid a “tops” salary and missed a lot of games. Figured he would be good guy that he is and redo deal. He won’t get 13 mil anywhere else. Not sure he gets 10 mil. Probably 8. Which Bucs would have paid. Kinda wait and see with draft and his potential replacement.

    But hey – if he wants ring before he retires then It makes more sense. Most guys sell out at the end to get that chance and I don’t blame him. I mean the Bucs had some terrible teams and terrible players around him so they didn’t do him any favors.

  24. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Bennett – Shoulder injury when they let him go.

    Who was leading the Disco Inferno on the sidelines when the Bucs defense actually made one of their few plays last year and or failed to stop it? That would be Mr. Icecream. Now THAT is what I call LEADERSHIP.

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … ” Just look at some of the moronic decisions the suits at One Buc Palace have made since GMC came aboard.” Therein lies the bottom line IMO Joe. to Me it’s not really about GMC at all; it’s about having a quality football TEAM that WINS. Losing football teams excel at finding scapegoats; winning football TEAMs don’t need them.

  26. RTG Bucs Says:

    Yes he is a good guy and good in the community. Probably even a likeable guy to the people that know him. I truly don’t even care if he helps opposing players up and dances on the sidelines. All of that means nothing on the field.

    I and most fans only care about what he does from the snap of the ball until the whistle blows, nothing more. And that part of his game is not impressive.

  27. Red86 Says:

    McCoy failed the Bucs by not making plays in key moments. Several times the offense left the field with the lead. How many times McCoy lead defense got a sack or two on the last drive? Great and legendary players shows up in all quarters. The original people that pointed this out are right about his lack of production when it matters. Production is his problem not wins. There isn’t 5 games I or any realist can say McCoy dominated a game from 1st to 4th quarters in his whole career. That’s terrible. Plus his 13 millions with little to no production or improvements are a big no no.

    So glad Arians is being honest about the lack of production.

  28. The Buc Realist Says:

    The ironic part is that the “failed blue print” is what joe advocates for every year!!!!!!! Cheering for duct-taping and patching around the limited DT 93 for so long is a recipe for disaster!!!!!! But joe and the sheep think they are just one player away!!!!!!!!! The cries for insanity last year were comical, because that is exactly what they asked for year after year!!!!!!!!

    Instead of trading, when there was value from a limited DT, that pigeon holes a defense to a scheme!!!!!! ( other wise gmc pouts and cries any time DC have tried hybrid schemes)!!!!!!!!! But the sheep and joe thought it was coaching???????? Not to mention he is a liability in run the rushing attach that all other have to make up for!!!!!! Terrible leader, ( unless you need someone to lead the dance parties after losses)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The ” real” fans are so happy that it appears that the Bucs finally will be more multi faceted on defense and will actually be allowed to play with flexibility!!!!!!!!!!!! It should have happened years ago, when some DC wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! joe says what a waste of gmc career, But the truth is what a wasted of trying to make gmc work in some b@st@rdized version of the outdated tampa2!!!!!!!!!!

    Years to late, but at least some seem now to learn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, That the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. Bruce Blahak Says:

    When the so called “leader” of your football team is as soft as sh*t, how would you ever build a tough, solid team. His whole career excuse was he didn’t have anyone else on the line to help him be better. The “star” player is supposed to make everyone around him better. Not with McCoys Bucs. That’s his legacy. The loser Bucs. And don’t go putting him up on a banner in the stadium along side of the Selmons and Sapps.

  30. Buc believer Says:

    Did GMC help you write this Joe??? It sure seems like he did. Your lips must be chapped from all the arse kissing you have done on the most overpaid overrated under performing joke of a player ever to wear a Batman costume.

  31. Anonymous Says:

    The bucs have had THE worst management of football operations for over 10 years from the rock star to gump. The revis signing is one of the worst moves this team has EVER done. Bennett is no where near a hall of fame player. Attention there is a dude that played here at DE in the super bowl is way more worthy of the HOF than Bennett. Jason Gump should have traded mccoy when the mccoy had value but he just extends him…..thus the bucs are pretty close to the worst run franchise in the nfl and therefor one of the 3 worst teams in the NFL for the past 10-12 years

  32. Bird Says:

    It’s funny to read the hypocrisy on this site.

    The posters who bash McCoy for his average play and no question it’s been average…especially of late.

    Yet Jameis is given every excuse in the book for his average play. It’s everyone else’s fault but his.

    In the history of the NFL , Pretty sure the qb is a more important player then a defensive tackle 😂 Not to many sapps or Aaron Donald’s out there that can put a team on their back in a game.

  33. The Buc Realist Says:


    Since you seem bent on jamming GMC into the ring of honor!!!!! Will you be presenting GMC case????????????

    If so, you should not use his pedestrian numbers or the popularity votes as his best case!!!!!!!! You need to use his Franchise record numbers!!!!!!! Like his franchise 8,324 interviews he has done!!!!!!! Or how he showed up and fought tirelessly for hours on social media!!!!!!!! How he lead the charge and showed great leadership for the locker room dance parties after losses!!!!!!!!!!! And of course how he could not be stopped Once the “on air” sign came on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!

    And GO IRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Bucnjim Says:

    You mean no more singing and dancing on the sideline when we are down by 21? How will this defense ever survive! The only thing he ever led was maybe a conga line in and out of the locker room. On a more serious note his last picture had him looking around 240-250 lbs which leads me to believe he may be retiring.

  35. Bucsfanman Says:

    Defense Rules- You nailed it! I don’t blame GMC, I blame coaching, the GM, and the lousy ownership for not holding this team accountable.
    You guys are hilarious trying to rewrite history all the time. GMC has been a good football player on a bad football team. It’s as simple as that.
    You guys don’t have to worry much more. Father Time is undefeated. The 31 year-old DT will soon be traded or call it quits. Honestly, I think it’s time.
    I just wonder who the next scapegoat will be. Ali Marpet? For not making D. Smith better? I don’t know.

  36. Bucsfanman Says:

    Bird- The DEFENSIVE TACKLE is the most important position on the field and in the front office. Only in Tampa Bay does a DT make roster and scheme decisions!

  37. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bucnjim … “his last picture had him looking around 240-250 lbs which leads me to believe he may be retiring.” Someone else made a similar comment awhile ago, but I haven’t seen anything to indicate that’s the case. Got me wondering though if it might be true so that he can play more effectively outside in a 3-4 or hybrid defense. Have you seen anything Joe to indicate that MIGHT be the case? I’m still of the opinion that GMC will be a Buc for this whole year.

  38. ATrain Says:

    GMC is held to a higher standard because he is put out there as ELITE

    GMC has been good for the Bucs But Not a game changer

  39. Bucnjim Says:

    I think the picture was taken at a community event. Not sure the exact date but it looked to me like he had lost around 30 or 40 lbs maybe more.

  40. Anonymous Says:

    Poor GMC

  41. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I will NEVER understand Joe’s take on Darrelle Revis. Ironically, VHIII has done more for this team than Darrelle Revis did for us…or any other team after us.

    Bennett will not be a Hall of Famer unless he does more in the time he has left.

    Getting rid of Bowers was the right move. The man was constantly injured.

    Baron would be a u nice peace in the new system, but it’s years later and too late for that.

    I agreed the Bucs failed McCoy…but it was a failure of necessity once we drafted a QB. The priority became building around the QB…which has been done nicely.

    Which is why I said LAST YEAR to trade McCoy. The window was wide open then. We would have gotten more.

  42. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    No doubt, JOE, that one of the most ridiculous moves this franchise EVER made was running off Michael Bennett for no reason.

    Are you kidding me? You finally hit on a guy who was under the radar, developed him, and he was a budding superstar….

    You let him go.

  43. Z31 BUCS Says:

    Hahahaha Says:
    “I feel bad for you and do not respect this take at all.”


    All good. Nobody respects your takes.

  44. BucsminsterFuller Says:

    let’s face it 2018 was his year to prove it or lose it. He barely showed up. His big excuse was that he was always double teamed. They brought in JPP and McCoy didn’t play any better.
    On any given defensive play I couldn’t tell if he was on the field or not. He just didn’t make an impact on the play.

  45. Eric Says:

    Maybe so.

    But given the multiple millions he has been paid I’m not losing any sleep.

    In contrast many bucs fans have shelled out hard earned money during the post chucky fiasco.

    Go bucs.

  46. Z31 BUCS Says:

    Bucsfan951 Says:


    Most enlightening post from you EVER.

  47. 813bucboi Says:

    i disagree with the entire article…..

    if GMC was so good, why didnt he make players around him better?…..fletcher cox made vinny curry look like a solid DE….he played next to GMC and what happened?…nothing….didnt even look like the same player…..

    GMC only cared about GMC….not winning….


  48. BrianBucs Says:

    I hope that GMC ends up with a contender so he can spend the rest of his career playing for something.

  49. etzchaim613@gmail.com Says:

    McCoy’s agent probably advised him not to attend. If he believes he will soon be released, then why risk getting injured for a team he may not play for this year.

  50. Go Bucs Says:

    Sadly, the Patriots could probably give a late round draft pick for GMC’s services. I wish him well and really wish it worked out, but unfortunately it just hasn’t happened.

    Go Bucs

  51. Joe Says:

    McCoy’s agent probably advised him not to attend.

    Makes a lot of sense. Good point.

  52. Not there yet Says:

    Lol what a joke of an article!!! What kind of stupid logic says that an organization failed a player. So your saying that even the last three years when we had “the most talented squad we’ve ever assembled “ it’s not on the player it’s on the organization why we lose? The last two with s jack and this historic offense? Lol yea it’s all on the organization why Geraldine could not even out sack Nassib lol give me a break

  53. 813bucboi Says:


    first you blame lovie….
    then you blame HK….
    then you blame IRMA….
    then you blame no bye week….
    then you blame SOS….
    then you blame winston…..
    then you licht….
    now your blaming GMC…..

    DUDE, SMITTY SUCKS & DIRK BLOWS!!!!!!…..sucking and blowing is something you know all to well, since thats all you did while dirk and smitty were running the show!!!!!……

    BA will show you that the problem has been coaching/scheme not players/talent!!!!!!!


  54. DBS Says:

    From day 1 he has been expected to be Sapp. Because he is not a Sapp clone he that is where the hate has come from. Plain and simple.

  55. The Buc Realist Says:


    And I blamed JW3 suspension!!!!!! and accurately predicted that would ultimately sink the season and get Head Coach Dirk and Coach Smitty fired!!!!!!!!!!! But in the name of truth and accuracy!!!!!!! I wrongly predicted that the GM would be fired as well!!!!!!!! Getting a prediction wrong haunts me!!!!! and now that makes the total of two wrong predictions of my Decade long participation on JBF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, That the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Free The Realist Joe!!!!!! Do not moderate the Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. Bucsfanman Says:

    “if GMC was so good, why didnt he make players around him better?”
    Maybe he did. Maybe he helped JPP get 10+ sacks. I know some might think it a stretch but, JPP only had double-digit sacks three times in his career, one of them was last year. Just sayin’!

  57. gotbbucs Says:

    Of course GMC’s agent is telling him not to attend these voluntary practices. It wouldn’t surprise me if the team told him to stay away as well so they dont have to risk giving him a massive injury settlement if they know and McCoy knows that he’s either going to get traded or released during or after the draft.

  58. Tc Says:

    Jpp was absent too. It was a voluntary camp.

  59. Not there yet Says:

    The Bucs doomed Geraldine? That’s not the narrative on dan Marino and you won’t be able to use that excuse when he’s eligle for hall of fame. He will be known as the leader of the worst defenses in nfl history. It’s no coincidence at all why that is. The team has gone over the top in free agency and failed many times trying to build this defense, he’s just not a good enough to lead a team. He’s a leader of the off-season every year nothing more

  60. Lord Cornelius Says:

    I think it’s a solid take.

    McCoy likes the cameras/etc and has been a joyous face through all the losing. A guy who is nice to the other teams QBs. etc.

    I get why fans hate him. My instinct is to associate him with losing and soft defenses as well.

    But I blame the organization more than anyone. Mark Dominik was the worst GM in the NFL during his tenure, and we had some of the worst coaches in the NFL during that time as well. Would not have mattered if we had 2 Warren Sapps with the incompetence surrounding this team.

  61. 813bucboi Says:


    your wrong yet again!!!!!!!

    you cant blame the suspension because the team went 2-1 while winston had to sit…..thats not an excuse…..we were suppose to get better not regress…..and you claimed dirk had this team focused, ready to win and had made them mentally tough which was a flat out lie!!!!!!!!!

    The Buc Realist Says:
    September 17th, 2018 at 9:01 am
    Great job 813!!!!!! It must be difficult to come back and eat that humble pie!!!!!!!!!! Watching that game yesterday was just another of very exciting football games that we have been privileged too watch during the Head Coach Koetter regime!!!!!!!!!! We have seen so many “exciting” football games during this time then the last decade put together!!!!!!!!! And don’t think for one second that that stunt Fitz pulled at the press conference was not the message that this coaching staff had been hammering away with all week, let alone all offseason!!!!!!! They learned the lessons from all the distractions of last year like hard knocks!!!!!!!!!! And there were issues that were navigated thru this season that was masterful from Head Coach Koetter!!!!!!!!!
    Hold them accountable indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    #trust the coaches!!!!!!!!! Fix the “real” problem!!!! the roster!!!!!!!!
    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    those “exciting” games faded quick fast and in a hurry….dirk was exposed the very next week vs the steelers and never recovered…..

    the “REAL” fans know dirk was in over his head from the jump and he got exposed 2 years in a row…..

    your “wrong” count is up to 253!!!!!!…..what else do you think you were right about?…..

    now, i think its time for you to eat some humble pie!!!!!!!!!!


  62. Bucsdelight Says:

    Well, hopefully he will go to a better team and play in the playoffs. NE, Eagles, Seattle, NO, Colts, Titans, etc.

    People pining for Suh are just stupid. His stats last year sucked. He is worse than GMC, but you only like him because he steps on people. GTFO.

  63. BucsFIRE Says:

    Bucsdelight says:
    “People pining for Suh are just stupid. His stats last year sucked. He is worse than GMC, but you only like him because he steps on people. GTFO.”


    100% Correct.

  64. Bucsfanman Says:

    ^^^^GRRRRRRRRRR! Bucsdelight & BucsFIRE are right! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

    Am I doing it right Rod Munch?!

  65. GhostofSchiano Says:

    The weight loss has me thinking he is going to restructure, move to DE and finish his career here. Much to the chagrin of Tmax but to the delight of Rod ggggggrrrrrrrrrr Munch.

    P.S. the reason he was not at practice was an advance screening of Shazam.
    I saw him in the theatre wearing bright red and yellow and cheering along with a number of the children in attendance. I thought I heard him loudly “GGGGGGRRRRRRRR” upon the appearance of the movie villain. Could be wrong. But then I am a lot like Realist, seldom wrong.

  66. Anonymous Says:

    By McCoy not showing up yesterday it just confirms everything people have said about him. Me player, selfish, doesn’t really care about the team, all about attention on him and soft. It’s sad but this is what we have been claiming as our face of the franchise. Now we see proof as to a main reason our defense has sucked since the day he got here.

  67. donuts Says:

    You can add Brooks and Lynch to the list of DEF players this franchise failed. The Bucs for whatever reason don’t know when to sell and when to buy and this has been going on since Dominic.

    Some things don’t change, which makes it all predictable.

    Near April 2020, we will see a headline on JBF: “Bucs Failed Jameis Winston”. He is next because they actually have wasted his talent and to be frank its getting near too late to recover the situation and restore this franchise to relevancy. It really depends on if he can get the Bucs to 9 wins. I strongly feel that is his magic number to be a Buc in 2020.

  68. D-Rome Says:

    Joe doesn’t think it’s a stretch to suggest the Bucs, as an organization, have let GMC down and largely have wasted GMC’s talent (and $100 millions+ of Team Glazer loot). Just look at some of the moronic decisions the suits at One Buc Palace have made since GMC came aboard.

    Completely agreed, Joe. Replace GMC with Warren Sapp and the defense isn’t all that much improved. I’m not suggesting GMC is better than Sapp, but he’s a darn fine player. I could argue he’s had a better career than Suh. The Bucs have failed GMC and they wasted his prime years.

    The two biggest numbskull stunts the Bucs pulled off with GMC on the roster was running off Michael Bennett for no good reason.

    It’s clear based on his comments over the years that Bennett and Schiano could not co-exist. You were in that locker room, didn’t you see any friction between them?

  69. Tim GILPIN Says:

    GMC is/was a good player.
    He is very respected around the league (which should tell you all you need to know) by players and coaches. In his prime he was a top 5 DT in the NFL and is now probably a top 15 edge top 10 guy. (so yes he can still play)

    The shade he gets from Bucs fans is easy to see. He is not Sapp, he is not a shadow of Sapp. Sapp could and would take over games and will the Bucs to a win. GMC has never taken over a single game, nor single handedly willed the team to a win. A lot of his stats come in garbage time. (not his fault he has been on some bad teams that were out of a lot of games in the 3rd qtr)

    One day GMC will be respected by Buc fans and possibly even go into the ring of honor. (not likely but maybe) End of the day in Tampa he will be compared to one of the best DTs to ever play in the NFL. That’s a lot of boot to fill.

  70. JimmyJack Says:

    Y’all keep saying that Gerald was a good player on a good team. On some level this is true but really it is wrong ……….McCoy wass not just a player on this team. He was our leader and he was the face of our entire franchise.

    Being a good player isnt good enough. As our main player and unquestioned leader he needs to be way above that standard. He needs to go above and beyond. Leading Our football team brings a lot more responsibility then just being good………..Remember when our OL coach said to blame him if his OL sucks? Yeah, well the same MF standard needs to apply to the Captain. The entire defense is a reflection on Gerald and this defense sucked and even flat out quit under Gerald. That’s a gond dang Captains job dammit!!!! The verdict is in and McCoy was a crappy Captain. Like his last coach said, this is a results business.

    If you disagree I’m sorry but you are just wrong.

  71. JimmyJack Says:

    @813&Realist………….Are you guys trying to proove your right to each other or to yourselfs?

  72. BucsFIRE Says:

    ^^ I think it is time for a Cage Match.

  73. Joe Says:

    It’s clear based on his comments over the years that Bennett and Schiano could not co-exist.

    Don’t fully agree with that because Bennett wanted to stay in Tampa Bay. He said it at the time and has repeated those words since. Even told Joe the week of the Seahawks’ Super Bowl win over the Broncos he wanted to stay in Tampa Bay.

    He did not care for Schiano? No, he didn’t but Bennett didn’t hate him enough not to want to stay with the Bucs.

  74. 813bucboi Says:


    im exposing a fraud…..

    2019 will show who’s right nor not….


  75. Mike Johnson Says:

    I would not renegoiate my contract if i were GMC. Either pay him per his contract or move him. A man probably wants his money. I cannot/will not blame him. I suspect he’s out of Tampa. Its a sure sign when a smiling GMC does not show up..even to 1st day team workouts. If he’s gone, good Luck to him. He gave us what he had when we had..nothing. Now that the Bucs are trying tp do something, they want him gone or taking less money. Move on GMC. Make your paper my man. You will land soundly where you are wanted.

  76. Ed Says:

    McCoy never looked like he had the body to physically take over the line of scrimmage. He has the speed of a Sapp but not the same kind of leverage or athletic ability. Sapp could beat a block and had the ability to get “low” and twist and turn to get to the QB. Gerald to me looks like he is missing the strength of a big man. When he has a straight line to QB’s he’s at his best. He doesn’t beat double teams often and he doesn’t make a lot of tackles. Other than a couple of great sack totals, his tackles per season are not what a 13 million dollar man is worth. Suh with the Lions, Donald in his prime are elite DTs. Sapp also in his first 6 years. McCoy was a good player but as the 3rd guy drafted in his class he hasn’t been a top 50 player in the league and his career hasn’t had a heck of a lot of highlights that make Buc fans go “wow”, what a play!

  77. bojim Says:

    Yep. They failed and wasted his career. David too.

  78. Bucs96 Doggie Says:

    We should have a graph of all the good discarded players the Bucs have given up on my position & see how that defense looks.

    I’ll bet that team would be up there talent wise w/ a lot of defenses. What a shame!