Josh Allen Is The Right Answer
February 27th, 2019
Team brass to speak.
Today, we may get an idea or a glimpse into the 2019 Bucs.
Today, Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht and Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians are scheduled to speak. Will they offer up any sort of clue as to how they are leaning in the draft?
Joe has made his voice clear: Find a way to land manbeast defensive end Josh Allen. Below, BSPN takes a look at what Allen brings to the table for an NFL team smart/fortunate enough to land him.
The Bucs own the No. 5 pick in the draft. This is a chance to find the most important player on defense for the next decade: defensive end.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:04 am
Agreed, if he is there, but doubt he will be.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:07 am
We need corners. We play in the NFC south, if you cant slow down Drew Brees and Michael Thomas, and Matt Ryan and Julio, then you are looking at a 1-3 record, which hurts your playoff chances. Josh Allen isnt going to sack Drew Brees enough to stop him from completing 75% of his passes. Our best corner over the last 3 years has been Grimes, and now he’s gone. That is a huge hole, to fill. Carlton Davis doesn’t have the footwork, speed, or ball skills to compete with Julio or Mike Thomas. Our best potential corner on the team is probably…drumroll…Justin Evans.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:08 am
A few year ago, I wanted OJ Howard, some how he fell to the Bucs, last year I wanted Derwin James, somehow he was still there after the Bucs traded back, well…, this year, I am all in on Josh Allen, but I do not see him falling unless he visited Colorado last week
February 27th, 2019 at 6:10 am
use brate or deaean to trade up or even gerald. Seems like every year the bucs miss a home run hitter by 1 pick and its usually best to trade back. I jooe they land this guy..
February 27th, 2019 at 6:21 am
Evan’s has the size, speed, potential to be a solid corners, but if you aren’t going to move him there, you have to seriously address the position if you want to win. Allen can cover so if he’s there, I would understand the pick, but I think Nassib played well and I dont think any 2019 rookie is going to player better outside of Bosa. I hate Devin White, I wouldn’t want him at 15, let alone 5. He makes great splash plays, but he also makes too many questionable plays. I also think White looks better because this class of lbs sucks. When Devin Bush is your number 2 lb, it’s a struggle class. I think I might be bigger than Devin Bush, and since he lacks speed, I don’t see him playing a second contract.
Without someone making a trade for a qb, this could be a rough draft for us.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:22 am
Joe why stir the pot? There is like a 1% chance he is there at 5 so now when we don’t get him people will be hating on Licht for blowing the pick cause they didn’t get the guy you told them to want. You know from all the Jameis articles alot of these folks only know what their told to believe.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:38 am
This is too easy Joe … you don’t even have to bait the hook. Just troll around, dangle a juicy morsel over the side & some will jump in the boat all by themselves. And the juicy morsel for today is … Josh Allen.
Bucs have more holes in our roster than a piece of Swiss cheese. We have only SIX draft picks this year & very little salary CAP dollars to play with at the moment. Somehow I don’t think that situation screams “Heck ya, let’s package our #5 pick & our #39 pick so we can move up & draft Josh Allen”.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:43 am
Justafan,
Hold up…did I read that correctly , White lacks speed? LB from LSU….just making sure it’s the same guy.
February 27th, 2019 at 7:02 am
Josh Allen won’t be there…..and we can’t afford to trade up….Saquan Barkley was the answer last year…..on & on & on.
February 27th, 2019 at 7:04 am
I’d just as happy with Clelin Ferrell ….even though we should draft Dwayne Haskins @5
February 27th, 2019 at 7:41 am
I like JA but not with extra picks as Def R dangles troll bait! If we can move down (but not to far) and still get a good pick that would be a bonus!
February 27th, 2019 at 7:46 am
Classic Ndog
Not even an article about Jameis and he is whining about Jameis not getting respect. Only blame.
You are like Tmax and McCoy
More people than apparently you think are hoping Jameis succeeds cause that means the Bucs are winning and maybe in playoffs.
People just don’t blame everyone else but Jameis like you do. You know that your constant excuses bring out more “hate”.
February 27th, 2019 at 7:50 am
“Josh Allen Is The Right Answer”
Sure – but only if the question is -“Who will be off the board when the Buccaneers select a player at pick #5?” – and/or – “Who would it cost the Buccaneers a literal King’s ransom to move up for in the 2019 draft?”….
Let it go Joe – Josh Allen is not going to be a Buccaneer.
February 27th, 2019 at 7:51 am
Ndog.
If for some reason the Jameis experiment doesn’t work out here And he signs with another team ? Are you still a Bucs fan ? I will wait …
And I am being serious
Seems like you care about one player and the rest of the team is just cannon fodder
February 27th, 2019 at 7:52 am
Article isnt even about Jameis cut you are making it
The new Tmax
February 27th, 2019 at 8:07 am
Bird wrong again that was an example of people like you who are clueless and you took the cheese like always. Go back and watch ESPN tell you what to think sir. Nothing to see here folks move along. And for the record I have seen every Bucs game since 1983, and each home game accept one I had to leave town, so I am a Bucs fan first and foremost. But I also have a brain and research and make decisions for myself unlike some, not making names…..
February 27th, 2019 at 8:12 am
Joe you did this same thing last year with Chubb. If he’s there I’m sure they take him but the chances he falls to 5 are slim to none. Stop writing about this guy
February 27th, 2019 at 8:21 am
Where is our annual cry for a first round running back, Joe?
Are both of you agreed on the DE pick?
February 27th, 2019 at 8:24 am
BucEmUp 7 Says
“Use brate or deaean to trade up or even gerald.”
I would love to use Desean Jackson to trade up. Not only would we benefit, but it would not cost us a pick and it would send him to a worse team than the Bucs. All good!
However…I can’t recall the Bucs trading a player in any drafts, not in the past twenty years or so. Maybe ever.
February 27th, 2019 at 8:25 am
The Universal NFL Draft Rule…applies to all teams….
The “Player”… you covet is always taken just before your team picks
February 27th, 2019 at 8:26 am
I have to side with Ndog on his comments. Sorry, Bird.
February 27th, 2019 at 8:32 am
Defense Rules Says
“Bucs have more holes in our roster than a piece of Swiss cheese. We have only SIX draft picks this year & very little salary CAP dollars to play with at the moment.”
Know what I think?
I think there are fewer holes than most people believe, and I’m hoping Arians can actually prove it.
I mean, yes…we have some players to re-sign. I suppose those can be considered holes until the deals are done. But assuming those players are signed, the rest of the holes really are not that many.
I agree about the limited number of pick, and I am right there with you. I hate trading away picks, except when it nets us more picks. Last year was great. We ended up with 3 second rounders.
So far as the cap, we can go from very little to a lot with the right cuts or trades, so I’m not worried over the cap. Not to mention teams go over the cap every year and never seem to get in trouble for it.
February 27th, 2019 at 8:33 am
He simply will not be @ #5……Lets use our trade assets to plug the lot’s of holes we have in the OL and defense…..Don’t use our phew trade assets for a draft pick, doesn’t make sense when we do not have everything in place
February 27th, 2019 at 8:36 am
Unless the Bucs are playing a 34 defense, this is a bad pick. Allen is basically Noah Spence. We shouldn’t force smaller guys to become hands to the ground de. Yes he may have done well in college, but the NFL player don’t have college classes. They workout and are trained to block smaller guys. Allen has a higher chance to bust like Spence in a 43.
It would be better to get another dt over Allen. More pressure up the middle on passing down will make life harder for all qbs. Qbs can step up in th pocket to avoid de pressure, but must step outward to avoid dts. Only Vea was consistently getting pressure up the middle. We badly need another Vea like player next to him. Most qbs in the league are pocket passer.
Will Gholston need to be replaced as a dt. All the more reason to grab 1 or 2 DTs. Or get De with both power and speed.
February 27th, 2019 at 8:36 am
Players we need to resign:
The Obvious
• Adam Humphries
• Donovan Smith
• Kwon Alexander
Those Commonly Not Mentioned
• Leonard Wester
• Peyton Barber
• Michael Liedtke
• Andrew Adams
And I would re-sign Chris Conte if he is willing to be a backup (not start). I realize there are a bunch of fans who don’t like him starting, but he was our best safety until last year. At hte very least, he has enough left to be a good backup.
February 27th, 2019 at 9:31 am
Id be ecstatic with Josh Allen (doubt he falls to 5) or Devin White (with a trade back). Hard NO to Clelin Ferrell anywhere in the first round.
February 27th, 2019 at 9:34 am
You hope so. Mocks keep having us take either an OL or Josh Jacobs.
February 27th, 2019 at 9:38 am
Otherwise, Jawaan Taylor is next. However, a trade down would probably be best for us.
February 27th, 2019 at 9:42 am
Walter Football has us taking Ed Oliver. I think that is a bit of a stretch, but you never know .
February 27th, 2019 at 9:45 am
Part of the reason Allen is such a coveted prospect is because of his upside and ceiling. You know, the fact he is this good while still needing to develop.
There are other DEs in this class who are more polished pass rushers, more “pro ready” prospects (ie Brian Burns and Clelin Ferrell).
I have a feeling guys like that will fit more of the staffs MO.
February 27th, 2019 at 10:00 am
Not sure why my other post didn’t go up, but here is another one.
Another Mock has us trading with Redskins.
“The Buccaneers, meanwhile, aren’t in a great spot at No. 5, as it’s a bit too early for Jawaan Taylor. A trade between the two teams could happen, and I imagine the Redskins would surrender their 2020 first-round pick, their 2019 second-rounder and maybe something else.”
February 27th, 2019 at 10:00 am
If he’s gone by the time Tampa is on the clock let’s trade down into the mid teens and get Greedy Williams.
February 27th, 2019 at 10:02 am
Ed Oliver at #5 seems crazy to me.
“When Jason Licht became the Bucs’ general manager, Tampa Bay was the worst team in the NFC South. Five years later, the Bucs are still the worst team in the South because Licht has made many regrettable moves like taking Vita Vea instead of Derwin James, or Vernon Hargreaves instead of Laremy Tunsil or Leonard Floyd. Even though they took Vea last year, the Bucs still need to upgrade their defensive line and improve their ability to keep teams from scoring. It sounds like Tampa Bay will move on from Gerald McCoy. Here’s a gap penetrator to go with Vea.
Oliver is extremely fast, and a very twitchy athlete with a good motor and the ability to get after the quarterback. However for the NFL, he is vastly undersized and really is the size of a defensive tackle designated pass-rusher – DPR. He could be limited to being a three-technique in a 4-3 defense due to not having the length or weight for a 3-4 defensive line position. Thus, some sources think Oliver could end up being a mid-first-round pick rather than a high first-rounder.
Oliver totaled 54 tackles with 14.5 tackles for a loss, three sacks, one forced fumble and two passes batted in 2018. In 2017, he recorded 73 tackles with 16.5 tackles for a loss, 5.5 sacks, three passes batted and two forced fumbles. The 6-foot-1, 290-pounder dominated at the point of attack in 2016, starting from his debut game against Oklahoma. All season, the freshman overwhelmed offensive linemen with his quickness, athletic ability, and physicality. He totaled 66 tackles with 22.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, three forced fumbles and nine passes batted on the year.”
February 27th, 2019 at 10:02 am
Bonzai says: I think there are fewer holes than most people believe, and I’m hoping Arians can actually prove it.
i agree….
imo, we’ve had the same holes for the last 3years….and its not so much holes but quality depth and player development…..1 injury always sends us in….
regarding josh allen, i wouldnt mind him, but imo we need DT help….1 reason why the LB’s looked so bad was because olinemen were in their lap as soon as the ball was snapped….VV getting double teamed and GMC shooting the gap taking himself out of the play…..
plus, carl nassib played very well the entire year…..gotta build from the middle to the outside to the back end….fortify the middle of the dline…..draft Ed Oliver….
i dont think josh allen will be there anyways….ARZ, SF or the JETS are going to take him….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING…GO BUCS!!!!
February 27th, 2019 at 10:06 am
Just draft a great player and put him in a position to dominate. We are not good enough on defense to be picky.
February 27th, 2019 at 11:06 am
Nobody will trade a decent pick for Jackson because the guy is on a one year deal.
February 27th, 2019 at 11:39 am
Devin White is much more likely to be a Buc
February 27th, 2019 at 11:44 am
We have too many needs – better to trade down and pick up additional picks in the second and third. One guy is not the answer, especially with JPP still in his prime.
February 27th, 2019 at 11:56 am
If Josh Allen or Quinnen Williams isn’t on the board we need to trade down.
Period.
February 27th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
I agree with bonzai and bucboi. We have done a good job of assembling talent, a poor job of using it and developing it. Of course, some will never agree with that, because it would require giving Jason Licht just a bit of credit.
February 27th, 2019 at 12:32 pm
Allen is a real option. The last several drafts dictate it. Teams will overpay to try and nab a franchise QB. This is a cold hard fact………And let’s just let free agency hit because it’s not impossible to see both the Cardinals and Raiders trade away their current QBs for handsome compensation…………..If that happens it is a lock that will will get Q, Bosa or Allen.
Other teams will be wanting to move up and they will be calling the teams in front of us first and see what the price is. 2(or 3?) of them teams have new HC and are rebuilding. They might take a trade offer and acquire more picks……….Jets are the #1 team to look out for because they desperately need OL but can’t draft any because their pick is too high and no OL are worth their current pick……….Meanwhile the Bucs are not nearly as desperate for OL but y’all want one at #5. Awful plan. We have the worst defense in history …….the plan needs to be to bandage the gouges first and then worry about putting Band-Aids on our scratches.
If all of that fails I am hoping for a trade up. I want an All-Pro player with this #5 pick then I never wanna pick there ever again…………..Y’all can do you’re fluffy little trade down and get 3 generic part timers…….I’ll take my 1 player and when he comes as advertised will kick your teams ass. That’s cause he will be a game changer and your 3 players won’t change shhhhhhiiiiiiiiii.
February 27th, 2019 at 1:10 pm
Current Mocks have SF taking Bosa at 2.
February 27th, 2019 at 2:32 pm
I would love to land Allen. I just don’t see San Fran, Jets AND Oaklamd all passing on him. Unless some sort of red flag pops up in the next two months.
February 27th, 2019 at 6:40 pm
Great kid! But won’t be there at 5.
Maybe Oliver or the top rated OL might be there for us….if we don’t trade down.
February 27th, 2019 at 8:48 pm
Landing Josh Allen at 5 is a pipe dream. I live in Lexington and have seen this guy up close and personal, he will blow away the combine and that coupled with his tape will make him a top pick. Even if the Cardinals take Murray at 1 and the 49ers go with Bosa at 2, I can see Gregg Williams absolutely pounding the table for this guy in New York. If he somehow makes it past New York drafting him would help Raiders fans forget the Khalil Mack debacle. Pipe dream guys.