Gerald McCoy Must Have Heard Jason Licht

January 1st, 2019


Can’t you just see Gerald McCoy kicking butt and tasting the playoffs with the Browns next season?

Man, that would be ironic after relocating from Cleveland South.

It feels like McCoy heard general manager Jason Licht step around endorsing a Gerald McCoy return at his news conference yesterday.(Joe doesn’t remember if that came before or after Licht insisted the 2018 Bucs had one of the greatest offenses in NFL history.)

McCoy took to Instagram last night and posted a picture of him embracing Lavonte David on the field of the Den of Depression.

He attached the following quote: “My brother for life!! Regardless………. That’ll never change!!”

McCoy is due $13 million next season (not guaranteed money) and the Bucs have a decision to make on their nine-year defensive tackle who turns 31 in February. He finished this season with six sacks and 21 quarterback hits. The latter stat tied for the second best QB-hit total of his career.

Joe wonders if any of this was Licht’s way of lighting a fire under McCoy, or whether it was a tactic to get McCoy to agree to a pay cut to stay on the Bucs roster.

85 Responses to “Gerald McCoy Must Have Heard Jason Licht”

  1. Buc50 Says:

    Will hate to see him playing for someone else. The guy is all class.

  2. thunderchunkyPA Says:

    I just don’t see the Bucs paying him 13 mil. Does he want to hit the market and go to a winner? Will a team offer a low round draft pick for him? The head coach gets all the headlines, but there are a ton of BIG decisions coming for this team. GMC, D Smith, and others.

  3. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Get this softie off our team

  4. Bucsfanman Says:

    GMC is a decent player, but not a $13 million dollar player anymore. If he’s willing to take a pay cut, I would not be upset to see him in a Buc uniform.
    That said, it would be in the team’s best interest to at least shop him around. He’s 31, if you can get some picks or a player of value, you HAVE to entertain it IMO.

  5. Evo2706 Says:

    I’ll take him if we negotiate two things for him. First thing would be taking less money, second thing would be not talking at all and letting real leaders lead and following their example

  6. Evo2706 Says:

    I bet licht will only get a 4th and 6th for McCoy. That’s why I’d rather keep him.

  7. Todd Says:

    Sign him to a 4-year $20MM deal and let him retire a Buc.

  8. Bucsfan561 Says:

    I think he’s worth 9-10 million. Restructure & let’s get it!

  9. Doc Says:

    Rumor has it that Licht’s may be fired after the new coach is hired.

  10. Dave Says:

    The fact is that he’s not playing up to value of $13 million a year.

    I also can’t imagine any other team paying him that either. So I’m not sure of his trade value. We may end up releasing him if we don’t want to pay him that.

  11. rrsrq Says:

    GMC will likely go to a contender, Kansas City and at least have the opportunity to get to the playoffs

  12. D Smythe Says:

    To Doc,
    I have never heard of any GM getting fired after hiring a new coach, that just makes no sense at all!!!

  13. DB55 Says:

    It would be great to keep him until he sprains his pinky and has to go on IR.

  14. DooshLaRue Says:

    Get whatever you can get for him Mr. Licht.
    Taking a pay cut would be a huge mistake for us. We don’t get 100% from him at full price and if you think he’ll play hard for less money, then you are indeed delusional.

    Get rid of Softie.
    Hire a real HC.
    Hire a real DC.
    Change the damn uniforms.
    Draft heavy on DL/OL
    Acquire a true RB.

    Go Bucs!!!

  15. Joe In Michigan Says:

    I’ve never understood the McCoy bashers, he’s been one of our best players. Maybe there’s more to it than I know. There does need to be a culture change on the Bucs, just not sure where McCoy falls in that. We’ll find out when we get our new coach and what he decides to do.

  16. Whatinthebuchappend Says:

    Blah blah my brother of the losing for life.. STFU with that cheap crap ya bum ! Stop rubbing more of your stench off on lvd ! He is going to do so much more winning without you and can this finally be the year this joke of a player leaves ? Gosh I hope so ! I never liked the pick of him , and since I have never liked his play ! Good riddance & just think about it mcsoftie , if you do go to Cleveland you can cry sorry ben twice a year!

  17. #1bucfan Says:

    Hope he decides to take a pay cut. I do agree that his play has dropped an we could use the money to fill more wholes idk why ppl think he’s soft cuz he will help the other team up that doesn’t make him soft but he is a guy that this community an many other communities need. We need more ppl like him he’s a great guy an leader

  18. BigMacAttack Says:

    Begged for Licht to trade this clown the last two years before the Draft. He could have sent him to the Browns and Saquan Barkley would have been a Buc. Saquan likely would have been the difference between 5-11 & 11-5. So tell me again how competent Jason Licht and his oblivious bosses are.

  19. Miller5252 Says:

    GMC has been a good steady player after the first 2 years injuries. I think since going #2 behind Suh we were a lot better off with him. No he was never the second coming of Sapp, but he did always lead by example and he was always a pillar of the Bucs. I hope he’ll drop his price, stay a Buc, and retire a Buc. If not I completely understand him wanting out to have a chance to win a ring that he deserved, while playing on crappy teams and having way too many coaches. Either way I think he should have the choice, but the Bucs have to make some good business decisions to get this team winning finally!!

  20. Conte Piscatelli Says:


    I don’t see Licht getting fired before the draft, if you clean out your gm the new one either is the current scouting personnel that they don’t know, or the are way behind with a new shooting department. For me if you want to for the GM I wait until after the draft

  21. BigMacAttack Says:

    Licht is right up there with Matt Millen as GMs go. Useless unless destroying a franchise and throwing away money counts.

  22. Not there yet Says:

    If you don’t understand the Geraldine bashing then you aren’t paying attention. Not sure how there’s a double standard when’re the quarterback has to be perfect and everyone complains about his record but Geraldine comes out of games with no statistical record of his presence and people act like it’s nothing. Geraldine is average and he’s third in sacks this year behind two newcomers so yea he’s not worth 13 mil

  23. BigMacAttack Says:

    McCoy’s return on investment has been Zero. ZIP zilch nada. Big fat goose egg. Don’t let the door hitcha, fat boy.

  24. BigMacAttack Says:

    McCoy was a bust from the day he got here. He’d rather lay up on the couch and play video games than hit the gym. Cheeseburger McCoy.

  25. Bucs fan #7423 Says:


    Why don’t we just replace McCoy with a carebear?

    It’s just as soft

  26. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Get him to 7-8 million and he can stay

  27. I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Hope Docs Rumor is true and Licht is fired after the hire!!! Then all three of the clowns that should have been gone this year will have been replaced….SMITH, KOETTER & LICHT!!! That would be exciting and pump new hopes into the Buc Faithful. I do believe they have the talent to succeed. Still skeptical of Jay Miss but maybe he will prove me wrong!!👍👍

  28. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Probably time to move on. He’s been on the NFL’s farm team long enough and now it’s time to string together some Pro Bowl appearances. He’ll finally get that recognition he never really got while mired on some pretty rotten Buc rosters every season. Be strong.

  29. Dewey Selmon Says:

    If you get rid of McCoy you will force your hand to draft a DT with the 1st pick. At least try to have take a pay and draft OT Williams from Bama or Little from Miss St.

  30. Asdf Says:

    Captain of some of the worst defenses in the NFL his entire career. I agree he’s a class act but let’s be real. The defense won’t miss him

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I would cap his value at $8m at this point, and going down quickly.

  32. Action Jackson Says:

    Good riddance, McCrybaby is softer cotton candy.

  33. Darin Says:

    You people and the lack of sense. Did Licht step in and make his draft picks play better after sitbacksmitty was canned? Not to mention he picks players for the current coaches. For the last 3 years we just witnessed one of the worst coaching staffs in league history. I pray for a real staff to get in here. Then all the sudden Lichts picks look much better.

  34. TonyC Says:

    I could care less if they keep him. He’s just not the type of merciless (no smiles, no nonsense) player I’ve admired over the past 50 years. I was genuinely pissed when they let Michael Bennett go. We need more players like Bennett.

  35. JimmyJack Says:

    I honestly think we are better off releasing McCoy and investing that money into a younger player.

    McCoys play has gone downhill & he has no concievable leadership or lockerroom attributes to consider.

  36. JimmyJack Says:

    Darin have you noticed the 2 drafts Licht had for Lovie Smith were much much better then the ones had had for Dirk? Coincidence?

    Wonder what Mike Smith though about all the DBs that were drafted for him.

  37. westernbuc Says:

    If we cut the dead weight (DJax, Gholston, possibly Donovan Smith) and they raise the salary cap another ten million as expected, we can afford GMC

  38. Locked In Says:

    I think McCoy is a very good player, but I also think he can be a bit of a drama queen and I don’t care for that side of him.

  39. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    I hope you’re joking, because I know you’re smarter than that. Dude is one of the 2 or 3 hardest workers on the team. He missed 2 weeks with the same injury that cost Vita 2 months. He played last year with a torn bicep. It’s one thing to question his play, but another thing entirely to call him lazy. You’re better than that.

  40. Bucs Guy Says:

    Time to move on. Trade him for draft picks. If all else fails, release him before free agency, He’s just not worth $13M,

  41. Ray Rice Says:

    He’s all talk. If he really wanted to stay as much as he says he does he would take the minimum to stay. But he won’t. It’s not like he hasn’t robbed the Glazers already. And to be honest he should only be making as much as Jovan Haye to stay on the team.

  42. Ray Rice Says:

    He’s all talk. If he really wanted to stay as much as he says he does he would take the minimum to stay. But he won’t. It’s not like he hasn’t robbed the Glazers already. And to be honest he should only be making as much as Jovan Haye to stay on the team. And even then I’d still pass on his heartless a**.

  43. SenileSenior Says:

    For McCoy his personality is irrelevant when evaluating him as a football player. He is not Sapp. He is not Suh.

    He has been one of the TOP FIVE and sometimes one of the TOP TWO defensive linemen in the NFL for at least five of the last nine years. He has had to play the role of one and a half to two men on the line for much of his career.

    For those who believe statistics tell you something significant, I invite you to take a CLOSE look at his stats. (Especially for all of you GMAC haters.) You will see that his numbers are actually very comparable or even better better than Suh’s overall.

    I hope Gerald McCoy, who is a man and a real NFL football player, can restructure his pay and stick for at least one more year in the new regime. I want to see him in a playoff game in a Buccaneer uniform. As a fan I would like to see him end his career here.
    Go Bucs!!!!

  44. JimmyJack Says:

    Four starters on our Dline and McCoy was the least impactful.

    If McCoy was some type of unheralded emotional leader there would be a case to re-sign him. But he’s not and he is still the least impactful starter on that line.

    He is very replaceable and there is no real reason to keep him. 13 million needs to go a long way in this league.

  45. JimmyJack Says:

    Senior……yes McCoy has been a top 5 guy.

    Problem is that was in the past. He is over the hill and trending downward. Any belief that he can be a top 5 again is nothing more then a wish.

    You may hope that he finishes his career in Tampa but I think you would be wise to hope for guys like LVD and JPP to finish in Tampa because them guys clearly have much more left in the tank then McCoy.

  46. OneBuc55 Says:

    Vea was not drafted to be McCoys sidekick…

    He was drafted to be his replacement; it all makes sense now…It looks like Licht was already preparing to get rid of McCoy; that said, I still would’ve preferred Derwin James…

  47. tnew Says:

    After Arians is hired, let Todd Bowles decide what to do with GMC. If thinks he knows what to do with him, keep him around. If Bowles decides there is a better option, great.

  48. JimmyJack Says:

    Senior…..At your request I took a close look at the stats between McCoy and Suh.

    Solo tackles….Suh has around 33% more production.

    Assisted tackles……..Suh has nearly double the production.

    Tackles for loss……Suh has about 25% more production.

    QB hits…..Suh has about 15% more production.

    QB sacks……nearly identical production.

  49. Mort Says:

    I love GMC. Can’t pay him quite that much though IMO. I’d feel much better at about 8 mill a year.

  50. Buc believer Says:

    LMAO!!! Joe your still drunk from New Years Eve!! Words that don’t go together… McCoy kicking butt and playoffs!!! LOL!!!

  51. BucEmUp Says:

    Personally I would just go ask JPP what he thinks..Honestly with Nasib and Vea along with JPP I can imagine he was told the defense will be playing a 3-4 next year. I

  52. SenileSenior Says:

    JimmyJack, I will take another CLOSE look myself. I may have missed the sources you examined. That last time I looked, a while ago, I did not see that info.

    I came to different conclusions based on the comparisons I saw.
    Go Bucs!!!!

  53. SenileSenior Says:

    I want to keep GMAC for sentimental reasons. But I do think he has enough to offer to keep him for one more year.

    There is no doubt that we can build our defensive line around Vea and JPP and a couple of others.

    With our fifth pick in the first round I have a bit of a dilemma. I am torn between wanting us to find another DE or a DT for the defensive line or hoping for a T or G for the offensive line. It’s easy for me to just say “best available” for now.

    I will be studying intensely and educating myself regarding the upcoming draft for the next few months. I do hope this is the last time for many years that we have a top fifteen pick!
    Go Bucs!!!!

  54. ElioT Says:

    As long as Gerald is here, he’ll be the default “leader” on this defense due to the respect he deserves as a person and his stats.

    That’s the whole problem.

    The guy isn’t a leader and he doesn’t know how to win nor have the mindset to step up and STOP the bullsh*t.

    17-0 on the Falcons, where was he bringing the defense together and demanding that they hold that lead and “win this damn game?”

  55. JimmyJack Says:

    Senior I’m not a stat guy. All I did was look at the back of their baseball cards.


    Combined tackles 296-481
    Solo 218-325
    Assists 78-156
    TFL 78-107
    Hits 140-166
    Sacks 54.5-56

  56. JimmyJack Says:

    Senior……Just put that whole though process together is what I say.

    I will like to see us get BPA but only from the 4 positions you just named.

    Could also see us draft a RB but I don’t think this draft has a Saquon Barkley in it.

  57. JimmyJack Says:

    Eliot….that is a very good point. Ultimately your comment is the reason we should move on.

    Young players are going to come into TB and automatically look up to McCoy as “the man” in Tampa Bay. We would be better served to have JPP be the man.

    It would benefit McCoy too. He could go to another team that has their own established pecking order and Gerald could slide right into the middle of the totem pole and just do his thing. Without having a microscope on him.

  58. Destinjohnny Says:

    If we were close talent wise I’d say let’s keep him.
    But we have soooooooooooo many holes to fill.
    Trade him him to a contender and let’s move on.

  59. ATrain Says:


    Perfect Post

    You are right on

  60. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Who’s going to light a fire under Licht ? He apparently talks a good game to the Glazers, but if I could describe him in two words ” Missed Opportunities” .

  61. SenileSenior Says:

    JimmyJack, your information is very concise. The analysis I saw was more elaborate, but not necessarily better.

    Also It did not include this most recent season.

    Of course should we get another DT in the first or second round any discussion about GMAC’s past performance or remaining capability become a moot point.
    Go Buc!!!!!

  62. Defense Rules Says:

    Some people amaze me (almost as much as Jason Licht’s personnel decisions have amazed me). Too many are letting emotions dictate what they ‘opinion’ IMO. Our Bucs team at this point in time is darned close to the bottom of the barrel among the 32 NFL teams. This “Oh we’re so close’ BS amazes me. We were a LOT closer to going 3-13 than we were to having a winning season.

    Gerald McCoy is NOT the cause of this team posting yet another losing record. Quite the contrary. There are only a handful of Ironmen on this defense … JPP, LVD, Grimes & GMC rate right near the top.

    Look at the defensive snaps taken this year … a total of 1,046 in 16 games (much too high BTW). JPP led the Bucs with 933 snaps taken in 16 games played … 89.2% (THAT’S an Ironman BTW). LVD was second on the team with 922 snaps taken in 14 games … 88.1% (another Ironman). Third on the team was Brent Grimes with 790 snaps in 13 games … 75.5% (not bad for an ‘old guy’). Fourth was GMC with 730 snaps in 14 games … 69.8% (not bad for another ‘old guy’). Subtract the snaps from the 2 games he didn’t play in and that amount to an on-field presence of 80.0% in the 14 games he played in. How many DTs in the league can claim even close to that.

    Now look at the rest of our DTs. Vea had 492 snaps in 13 games (47.0%). Allen had 387 snaps in 14 games (37.0%). Gholston played quite a bit of DT early-on and had 402 snaps in 16 games (38.4%). A few other bit players (DTs) came & went on the season (mostly went). And of course Unrein never came off of IR (great signing Licht; next time check a guy’s concussion history). None of them even came close to what GMC did. Mr McSoftie? Really?

    So the question: With the DLine finally starting to gel in the last half of the season, do you REALLY want to get rid of the guy who played far more DT than any of the other DTs on our roster? Is GMC worth $13 mil next year? No he’s not IMO, and I suspect he’d acknowledge that at this point. That’s probably why the term RENEGOTIATION was coined (just a hunch).

  63. PhillyBuc Says:

    He’s been leading a culture of guys who don’t hate losing. Overpaid, under achieving below average talent DT. Move him out

  64. Defense Rules Says:

    And SenileSenior (love that handle BTW … can relate), I’d love to draft Williams from Bama in the 1st Rnd this year, BUT … we have far greater NEEDS right now. For starters, a LEFT TACKLE (I’d love to re-sign Donovan as a Guard, but he’s not the answer we need going forward at LT). And in second place, maybe a stud DE to complement & eventually replace JPP? (Or Curry/Gholston for now). How about a real RB? Or a RT? Or CB? Or LB? But hey, we’re sooo close. All we need is the right coach to develop the TALENT that’s just waiting to be brought out in Donovan Smith, or Benenoch, or Dotson, or Isaiah Johnson or Javien Elliott, or … insert name. Bring on the next scapegoat coach, but by all means, hang onto the Architect of this Mess.

  65. Bucsfan77 Says:

    Hey Joe, got a question. Off topic…

    What do you make of this comment from litch.during his presser.

    (On how much previous relationships with him matter to his hiring)
    “Not much, I think I want to get to know these guys throughout this process. Just because I know somebody doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the right fit for the organization. Throw the ego aside, it’s what’s best for the organization, best for the players, best for the staff, just the best fit, period. Just because I know somebody doesn’t necessarily mean they’d be the right fit

    Did Kotter fight the owners for smith’s hire from get go?

  66. jerseybuc Says:

    $$$ being paid to Buc defenders doesn’t equate to the end product they delivered. Bottom line. As Branch Rickey once told Ralph Kiner, “we can come in last place with or without you.” Time to fix this mess.

  67. JimmyJack Says:

    Defense Rules………I’ll throw a little wrench into your Ironman argument. You commend durability in your first comment then say in your second comment how Donavon Smith(arguably our most durable player) needs to be replaced.

    Durability is not such a great thing if the production isn’t their…… Case in point. Brent Grimes. His play this year contributed much more to losing then winning.

    Yes maybe some of the “talent” we have is overrated. The answer should not be to have a HC come in here and make all the players play great all of a sudden…..but the answer should be to bring in a HC who can run a comb through this roster and figure out which players can be further developed and which ones are lacking in talent and need upgrades. This is where Dirk failed. He didn’t see the holes on his roster and entered the season trusting in a guy like Benechot, who he evaluated for 3 years……….After 3 years he should have know he was not talented enough to play RG. He couldn’t figure it out and we deserve a HC who can.

  68. Defense Rules Says:

    JimmyJack … Excellent point about ‘Ironman’ vs ‘Talent’ and I agree completely. Keep asking myself though why seemingly ‘durable’ players like Donovan, GMC & Grimes got so much playing time if the production wasn’t there. Was it coaching favoritism or simply that we had no one better to replace them with? If the latter is the case (and I believe that it is) then that right there should tell us a LOT about the quality of the talent we have on this roster.

  69. Joe Says:


    That’s seems to be a leap connecting what Licht said to some friction between Glazers and Koetter.

    Licht is just being honest. Just because you know someone doesn’t you you should hire him.

  70. JimmyJack Says:

    Defense Rules……..It’s an interesting debate. Only the test of time will tell.

    But I don’t think it’s a black and white argument. The way a player prepares is every bit as important as his talent……….. Take T.J. Ward for example. Like him or not he does have talent. Yet he was playing football for us last year and clearly was unprepared. He was out of position and missing assignments multiple times per game.

    Talent level is not even part of the equation when talking about Ward.

    Just look at this past Falcons game. We gave up a TD on a play when our secondary did not cover an entire half of the endzone. Missing assignments this badly is not something that can be making with ultra talented athletes.

    For me I just want to see a solidly prepared football team. If that does not come the issues on the Bucs runs much deeper then talent level IMO.

  71. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Don’t be a moron Big Mac. The Giants would not have given away their number 2 pick and game changer RB for trade several spots down and a DT with 9 seasons of wear and tear. Get a grip dude.

  72. JimmyJack Says:

    Masked*** not making

  73. Defense Rules Says:

    JimmyJack … You’re right, it’s not black & white for sure. So many elements go into having a quality football team it’s mind-boggling. Player prep, talent & motivation is certainly a huge part of it. So is quality coaching obviously, to include not just player development but also strategies & tactics development as well as play-calling. I tend to be a big advocate for FIELD LEADERSHIP also (and I think that’s highly underrated as a REASON why the Bucs haven’t been consistent winners). The impact of FIELD LEADERS like Ray Lewis & Hardy Nickerson (to name but a couple) shouldn’t be underestimated IMO. Leadership like what they showed goes a long way IMO towards getting everyone else on the same page and ready for the next play. Logan Mankins was another great example BTW (convinced that our OLine STILL misses his leadership).

  74. DB55 Says:

    He finished this season with six sacks and 21 quarterback hits.
    17 solo tackles, 17!

    VV 21 solo and 3 sacks in 9 games, 2.5 mil.

    Rankins 26 solo and 8 sacks, 1.6 mil
    Jarrett 27 solo and 6 sacks, $2 mil

    Short 29 solo and 3 sacks, 12 mil

  75. MadMax Says:

    If we cant get Williams or Bosa, trade down and get DT Wilkins, then we just might have a chance at DE Montez Sweat too. He’d be great as a student learning from JPP. I like S Deionte Thompson too….heavily compared to Derwin James, a tad smaller though.

  76. Deez Bucs Says:

    Never liked the pick, never liked his play, never liked his sound bites. Bye.

  77. Max Says:

    Some team is going to get a really good player

  78. Max Says:

    But it wont be the team GMAC goes to!! Soft serve!! get outta here!

  79. The Buc Realist Says:

    It was not a “light a fire” under GMC!!!!!! It was finally exposed that trying to build around GMC does not work!!!!!!! They forced the last DC to run a scheme that GMC likes and not wanted what the coach wanted to run!!!!!!!! mc softy cried every time they tried the 3-4 hybrid!!!!! Just like he did when Coach Schiano ran stunts because the D-line was not good enough!!!!!!

    And the few sacks that declining gmc did get, was from guess what???? stunts!!!!!!!!!! Why does it take the sheep and joe so many years later to figure it out?????????

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  80. Phil Says:

    We should trade McCoy for whatever we can get. Time to move on.

  81. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Hopefully Gerald will land on his feet with a playoff caliber team and finally get to go and enjoy a playoff game.

  82. FairMinded Says:

    $13 mil is nothing to be paying McCoy with the massive salary cap so forget the money. If Vea keeps trending up like he did late in the season, you don’t want to have him next to some no name so he has to suck up double teams like McCoy has had to do most of his career. A second year improved Vea next to McCoy with JPP and Nassib as the ends is pretty damn decent if you ask me and we won’t be looking to ADD to the holes that already need filling. McCoy has a couple good and productive years left in him and he should be allowed to play on as a Buc and retire a second one.

  83. FairMinded Says:

    *retire as one

  84. Reach87 Says:

    Time catches up to us all. For those that say he was a bust, poppycock! For those that say he is soft…you have not the friggin clue on what he put out in practice and in games. Revisionist history not bounded by facts, just biases against a man who made more money than you ever will, playing a game you never could, at a level you can only imagine. Call him what he is…an aging leader who still has something to offer. Its not my money (and its not yours), but IMO you can pay him less and keep him a Buc until he retires (playing him less such that he is fresher and remains somewhat effective). Bias (ice cream, smile, BATMAN) BS is why Bucs fans are some of the worst in the world…you know…Morons. Go Bucs!

  85. Jason Says:

    He may be good, but he’s not $13 million good – especially at 31 years of age. Time to move on.