Kwon Acknowledges Pro Bowl Pitch For Bradley McDougald

November 30th, 2018

Last night, Joe watched last Sunday’s Panthers-Seahawks game and got a good look at why there’s so much love for ex-Bucs safety Bradley McDougald in Seattle.

It gave Joe a headache. And that prompted Joe to do some digging on McDougald’s well-documented success story with the Seahawks after the Bucs let him walk following the 2016 season.

Joe found a new chat transcript, a Q&A session this week with Seahawks beat writer Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times.

In addition to saying McDougald’s stock is high in the Seahawks organization, Condotta referenced how McDougald had other offers in 2017 free agency. Ironically, Condotta said he believes McDougald’s strong game for the Bucs against the Seahawks that season was a factor in him signing with Seattle. And, (gasp!) he made a Kam Chancellor -McDougald comparison and said McDougald might be “a better fit” against some teams.

Joe had no plans to write about McDougald today until Joe saw Kwon Alexander served up two “reTweets” of pitches for McDougald to get your Pro Bowl vote.

One pleading was from what appears to be a fan, and the other was from McDougald himself.

So it seems the guy labeled the heart and soul of the Bucs defense, Kwon Alexander, had plenty of respect for McDougald and thought he was a valuable piece of the Bucs’ puzzle.

Painful stuff.

Joe believes McDougald, who turned 28 this month, represents a clear mistake by the Bucs hierarchy. He started every game in 2016, so he was a cog in the Bucs’ No. 1-ranked, third-down defense.

What happened? Did Mike Smith not like him? Did Jason Licht think McDougald was overpriced in free agency while thinking he would score Justin Evans in the draft? Reports in 2017 had McDougald signing a 1-year, $2 million contract with the Seahawks a couple of weeks after the free agency dinner bell rang.

Former Bucs general manager Mark Dominik talked yesterday about how he thinks Team Glazer will evaluate the current Tampa Bay front office. Joe wonders if the McDougald call will get any scrutiny.


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42 Responses to “Kwon Acknowledges Pro Bowl Pitch For Bradley McDougald”

  1. Aristotle Says:

    I loved McDougald and what he brought to the team. Obviously the GM and coaches aren’t watching the same game?

  2. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    McDougald was one of those guys the haters blasted. Until he did well elsewhere.

    Then they blamed Licht for giving them what they wanted.

    You would think they’d have learned but…

  3. SteveK Says:

    Bonzai,

    I pray that fans don’t influence personnel decisions. Licht screwed up w McDougald.

  4. Pete Mitchell Says:

    Perhaps he didn’t want to play for this lousy ass franchise.

    Just because we don’t resign someone doesn’t mean we didn’t want them.

  5. OneBucPerson Says:

    Damn shame, another piece started and developed here who turned into a star elsewhere. It’s Mike Bennett all over again.

  6. D-Rome Says:

    Exhibit #272 as to why Jason Licht should be relieved of his duties at the end of the year.

  7. joestang Says:

    This is another player Licht let get away, how many times do we see this? Licht is the worst GM i I have seen, get rid of him now before he does any other damage.

  8. 813bucboi Says:

    and guess who coached him up and developed him into what he is today…..thats right…KRIS RICHARD!!!!!!!

    the funny thing is, most of yall basted the kid saying he was just as bad as conte……

    he left here, Kris coached him up for 1 year and now his career is taking off….this staff cant develop any player that isnt a pass catcher……look at sweezy…..he’s playing great now…..

    clean house so we can get real coaches in here that know how to develop players!!!!!!

    KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!!

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  9. 813bucboi Says:

    i dont see how yall can blame licht….lol….he signed the guy as an UDFA….he saw the talent but smitty and dirk never developed him……

    spence is in the same boat…..bucs will let him walk and he’ll latch on somewhere else with some real coaching and he’ll produce…..

    KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  10. Kobe Faker Says:

    “2 teams, dallas and indy, instantly transformed thier defense by drafting a linebacker

    Both darius leneord and lv esh are 3 down playmakers leading the defenses”

    “2019 draft, Bucs pick Devin White from LSU to instantly strengthen our whole Defense”

    GM Kobe

  11. Cobraboy Says:

    Being the “heart and soul” of this Bucs defense is not exactly an impressive endorsement.

    That is like being the “heart and soul” of Yugo engineering.

  12. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Bonzai

    Name the haters please

  13. Cobraboy Says:

    “Haters” is weak sauce when an actual argument fails.

  14. 813bucboi Says:

    kobe

    i’d prefer mack wilson…..hits like a truck and can cover RB’s and TE’s….devin white is nice tho…..

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  15. BucEmUp Says:

    I don’t believe that Jason light has had as much power as we would like to think he has since he has came here. Lovie Smith was hired first then he brought Jason light aboard Lovie Smith was fired and dirt cutter was basically already decided as the next head coach new organization just went through the motions that they were legally required to before naming him the new head coach.

  16. BucEmUp Says:

    Mike Smith was brought in by dirt cutter not Jason like and was a complete train wreck as a defensive coordinator. I have to believe that with the dysfunctional order of operations in this organization that Jason light has only had so much say on August 2nd up until now. I want James to stay I want Jason like to stay we need a completely new defensive scheme and for Jason light to be in full control of all decisions and not allowing those decisions to be juggled between head coach defensive coordinator offensive coordinator general manager ownership blah blah blah blah blah there needs to be order

  17. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    813 over the summer – when Kris Richard’s was relieved of his duties in Seattle.
    I was pissed that the organization didn’t quickly pick him up (Archives).

    I’ve always thought that he was a great defensive back coach. And would serve as the successor to Mike Smith.

    But real talk though – what makes you believe Kris Richard’s would be a good head coach?

    Shoot Ur Shot.

  18. BucEmUp Says:

    Autocorrect above too lazy to fix

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    My bad it was the beginning of the year.

    #Repost
    LUVMYBUCS Says:
    January 16th, 2018 at 8:05 am←

    Joe,

    No disrespect – but Seattle & DC Kris Richard’s (38yrs old) decided to part ways.

    This is the same kid that molded “The Legion of Boom”.
    He’s extremely knowledgeable when it comes to coverage techniques, etc.
    Young dudes soak up everything this brotha preaches – and perform well.

    Hiring this brotha – could go a long way towards improving this secondary/defense.

    • (2015–2017) Defensive coordinator
    • (2012–2014) Defensive backs coach
    • (2011) Cornerbacks coach
    • (2010) Assistant defensive backs coach

  20. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Seems this Joe is on a mission to rub some noses in this sh|te show. Pete Mitchell is probably closer to the truth.
    Joe writes about what Joe finds interesting. It’s not every day a current Buccaneer makes a Pro Bowl pitch for a former Buccaneer. –Joe

  21. Mike Johnson Says:

    Nothing new here. He is just one of a..Plethera of players who have gone on to other organizations and Shined. ITS THE COACHING.

  22. 813bucboi Says:

    LUV

    -the way he develops players…..
    -his aggressive coaching style…..
    -he’s been apart of a winning culture…..
    -he knows what a championship team looks like……
    -he knows what it takes to win a championship…..
    -the way he gets players to buy in(convinced bryon jones CB best suits him)
    -he’s innovative
    -great communicator…(players heads arent spinning)
    -very discipline and you can see that by how the players play on defense…
    -mentally tough..(the way he handles strong minded personalities….he wouldve been able to handle and get production out of ASJ, c.baker, djax, ward……
    -has played the game at the highest level…..
    -young enough to know how to win in this new era of football but old enough to still have that old school physical mentality…..

    read this for more:

    https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/09/22/cowboys-kris-richard-just-intoxicating-charisma-look-inside-one-nfls-top-defensive-minds

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  23. 813bucboi Says:

    LUV

    -the way he develops players…..
    -his aggressive coaching style…..
    -he’s been apart of a winning culture…..
    -he knows what a championship team looks like……
    -he knows what it takes to win a championship…..
    -the way he gets players to buy in(convinced bryon jones CB best suits him)
    -he’s innovative
    -great communicator…(players heads arent spinning)
    -very discipline and you can see that by how the players play on defense…
    -mentally tough..(the way he handles strong minded personalities….he wouldve been able to handle and get production out of ASJ, c.baker, djax, ward……
    -has played the game at the highest level…..
    -young enough to know how to win in this new era of football but old enough to still have that old school physical mentality…..

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  24. 813bucboi Says:

    sorry for the double post…..thought joe blocked me so i took the link out…..but click on the link and read what players are saying about Kris Richard….

    he’s introductory speech was so fiery and passionate in front of the team that they applauded him…..players were amazed and impressed….said they have never seen a coach so ready to get to work….he won players and coaches over instantly…..

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  25. Sarasota Garey Says:

    Bucs have drafted someone else in the second rd, if they kept mcdougald

  26. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Luv, I would like to, but I don’t have time to dig thru archives.

    No sense in denying it though. George Johnson could have a 12 sack season and the haters would blame Licht for releasing him.

  27. Bucsalltheway Says:

    I was all for bringing this guy back from the jump…he was such a threat he made Keith tandy get noticed in a season where we ended up keeping tandy for the cheap only to let him go after his loaf on the rams game last year lol

  28. Bucsalltheway Says:

    Mcdougald was a reason our secondary was slightly respectable. With Seattle hes become a better box player which zeros in on coaching here in Tampa who thought he was too small to play the box.

  29. D-Rome Says:

    McDougald was one of those guys the haters blasted. Until he did well elsewhere.

    Then they blamed Licht for giving them what they wanted.

    You would think they’d have learned but…

    I don’t recall too many people people bashing McDougald. Certainly not with the same kind of fervor they do for GMC or Chris Conte. In fact, a quick search of the archives show that most commenters were in favor of bringing McDougald back.

    I saw one humorous comment saying, “I think Koetter will end up being the best coach in Buccaneer History when it’s all said and done.”

  30. unbelievable Says:

    Clear mistake indeed.

    One of many. Great evaluations from Mike Smith per usual.

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    LUVMYBUCS Says
    “Bonzai

    Name the haters please”

    When I got home I did do a little digging…and I found some. However, it occurred to me that calling them out by name would be unproductive.

    You were not one of them, obviously. In the years I’ve been reading your posts, I have never once viewed you as a hater. For the most part, you try to post constructive solutions.

  32. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    @D-Rome

    You have to go back to months before he was sent packing. You know the type…the grass is always greener on the other side to them.

    Keep in mind, I said the ‘haters’. Not most fans. Most fans have common sense.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    D-Rome Says:
    “I saw one humorous comment saying, “I think Koetter will end up being the best coach in Buccaneer History when it’s all said and done.”

    LOL! That sounds like one of mine! lol.

    Seriously though…name a better offensive head coach we’ve had. Jon Gruden certainly never scored as many points, and his teams were like a roller coaster.

  34. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    813

    All valid bullet points.

    I feel the combination of Rod Marinelli (USC) & Kris Richard (USC) is the perfect marriage.

    So questions: Do feel that

    A “Great Defensive Back Coach (Backend)”

    Paired w/

    A Great Defensive Lines (Front 7).

    Is the right direction our organization “needs” to take – in order to galvanize this moribund unit?

  35. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *So questions: Do U feel that

  36. FairMinded Says:

    Keep an eye on safety Andrew Adams he’s been playing well. He was only signed in end of Sept and not sure when he started getting regular playing time but he flashed a couple times in last few games and had to go figure out who he was

  37. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Bonzai

    My Father ingrained me one of the most important principles of my life.

    “Never bring up a problem without providing a solution”

  38. WalkdaPlank Says:

    I thought McDougald was a good player for us and was scratching my head when he left.

    Same with Sterling Moore.

  39. 813bucboi Says:

    LUV

    i agree….

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  40. orlbucfan Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    November 30th, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    D-Rome Says:
    “I saw one humorous comment saying, “I think Koetter will end up being the best coach in Buccaneer History when it’s all said and done.”

    LOL! That sounds like one of mine! lol.

    Seriously though…name a better offensive head coach we’ve had. Jon Gruden certainly never scored as many points, and his teams were like a roller coaster.
    ___________________________________________________________

    That is what has been driving me nutts all season. DK has built an offense on the same level as Tony Dungy did with the defense. Man, I hope this is the game where it blossoms.

  41. Jason S. Mclaurin Says:

    Mcdougald left because he wanted to win. I remember when he left he said when he signed with Seattle and he said right before he turned down an offer from Licht. They didn’t even try hard to resign him either that’s just how bad he wanted out of Tampa

  42. D1 Says:

    813

    Totally agree k.r. will do well as a head coach but John defIllipo is more ready for the jump to head coach. Kris would be great to have as DC with JD as the hc. Offensive built team is better served with a offensive minded coach in an offensive minded league.

    Richard’s would be a reversal of the direction of the team and probably set us back a few years as the team reprioritized personel and free agent aquisitions. Bring him in as DC and update the offense scheme , which is a minor adjustment, and this team is winning consistently . A jump from position coach to head coach is not a small thing. Sure it can and has been done with success but that’s the exception more than the rule. I’m sold on Richard’s long term but it’s probably wiser to get a coach with as little learning curve as possible.