Eli 2019?

November 14th, 2018

The incredible has become credible.

Noted football author and well-connected NFL columnist Mike Freeman stumbled upon interesting chatter in recent days regarding the Bucs.

Typing for his 10-point stance column at BleacherReport.com, Freeman noted that several NFL front office told him that the Bucs seem to be a great fit for Eli Manning next season.

Few in the league believe he’ll remain in New York. Much of the early speculation has him ticketed for either Denver or Jacksonville.

But another intriguing team was brought up to me this week: Tampa Bay.

Again, this is all guesswork from team officials across the league, but several front-office sources think the Bucs would welcome Manning to make some sense of their messy QB situation.

If that did happen (and it’s a gigantic “if”), that would mean Jameis Winston would be gone. And since he’s currently being beaten out by Ryan Fitzpatrick, that could be the case anyway.

Joe, who knows Freeman, finds his phrasing very interesting. It sounds like the Bucs being mentioned surprised Freeman and he was even more surprised Tampa Bay came up multiple times.

Manning turns 38 in January. He hasn’t had a great year, but he’s also been behind one of the worst offensive lines in football this season and last.

He’s one of the most durable quarterbacks in the history of the game, and his 8-4 record in the playoffs is extraordinary. Manning’s career also has been marked by a lot of inconsistency.

After the mess of this season, Joe wouldn’t be surprised at all if Team Glazer would embrace Manning for the stability he would bring to the position in 2019 — as they await a quarterback who can bring more ability to the position.

Of course, Manning in Tampa would mean the end of the Jameis Winston era, and Joe can’t sign off on that with seven games to play. Certainly not for Manning.

107 Responses to “Eli 2019?”

  1. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Is this the Apocalypse or something?

    My god.

  2. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Manning should get in the Hall just for being 2-0 against Brady

    But he should also never been seen in a Bucs uniform.

  3. Dooshlarue Says:

    God NO!
    Eli is one of the most overrated and lucky QBs of all-time.
    He still makes throws that even Jameis would be ashamed of.

    Hell NO!!!

  4. Robert Says:

    even I would say no thanks.

    Eli hasn’t been competitive since his brother retired.

    he’s just collecting a check

  5. doolnutts Says:

    HECK NOOOOOO… I am in Jersey… I have seen Eli play his entire career. He is a shell of his former self. We have too many weapons for a guy like Eli. Outstanding career but his career is rapidly coming to a close.

    I would take Winston over him any day of the week and I am not all that high on Winston.

  6. Kalind Says:

    I sat you Tampa. I dare you. I live up north, and I’ll just leave the team. I’m already on the cusp of just not caring anymore. You bring in Eli over a 24 year old kid with a ton of talent? I’m gone.

  7. The Real Malloy Says:

    I don’t know, he’s a statue in the pocket. Atleast Fitz and Jameis can move.

  8. LUVMYBUCS Says:


  9. BrianBucs Says:

    I totally agree that Winston needs to go. But Eli? NOOOOO

  10. Couch Fan Says:

    Lol This is a classic Idiotic move that Tampa would make.

  11. Ray Rice Says:

    Helllllllll Nooooooooooo! Not Mr. Gump.

  12. adam from ny Says:

    i’ve thought about this…the swap of eli and jameis ….the main issue and it’s huge is eli as the statue, and the o-line protection…he needs to be in an ultra secure pocket to succeed at his age…it’s possible, but this line can not provide him that “an ultra secure pocket”

    ps i’m looking for a girl or wifey with an ultra secure pocket too 🙂

  13. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Yes on Eli bring in Saban, eli as a stop gap draft grier in round 2 have saban work his knowledge of talent and get a solid nfl RB and then get some OL and build a defense…bucs go 9-7 then 11-5, 12-4 and super bowl with will grier and saban and the #1 ranked defense led by all pro mack wilson sabans first pick as bucs gm

  14. 813bucboi Says:

    no thanks…..unless we’re trying to tank next year too….


  15. sunshine Says:

    Fits is rated 8th by nfl qb rating….Winston was never even close to Fitz rating …..see folks ,top 10 qb in Tampa.. (excuses for Winston will be coming now:>)

  16. Mr Kleen Says:

    Drew Lock! I was actually surprised that he impressed me when I watched him against the Gators this weekend.

    The best part is that his eyes were constantly in motion. Always taking in the whole field. We could win a couple more games and probably still get him!

  17. Troy Says:

    Why overpay for a bandaid? Just buy generic for a year if you want to move on from Jameis. Just stupid. Save your money and spend it on players that can make you better long-term.

  18. adam from ny Says:

    jameis in new york would be crazy funny tho…that odell beckham dude would destroy jameis…at first they would be super cool and hang on the town and party hard…and as things unravelled at some point on the field, during some losses, odell would throw that dude jameis under the bus hard with media talk and shenannies, and that receiver diva style…manning ain’t phased by it…jameis would be phased, dazed and confused —and want to dip back down south

  19. 813bucboi Says:

    why would saban come to the valley when he’s already at the top of the mountain?…..

    saban wants whats he had now and he aint letting that go…..he’ll roll tide forever….


  20. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Please enough with Saban. It ain’t happening. Nor should it. He’s a college coach plain and simple.

  21. BrianBucs Says:


    Look at the bright side – when Winston goes, you can start your new campaign for Johnnie Football Manziel again. I’m sure that he will be available

  22. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:

    Ewww no Eli

  23. Dooshlarue Says:

    Yeah Dusthy……. you got a screw loose if you think Saban is the answer.
    He’s a college god and that’s where he should stay.

  24. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    Lol I said have fun with Eli next year, a few weeks ago.
    I pray it doesn’t happen but it would serve everyone who is trying to run Jameis out right.

  25. Tony LA Says:

    This is literally the dumbest idea I’ve heard all year for any team. The Bucs currently have two better QBs on the roster.

    This is pathetic nonsense.

    Winston is 24. Give him one last shot and get your heads out of the sand.

  26. RustyRhinos Says:


  27. BucsLife Says:


  28. DB55 Says:

    You got it backwards, it’s Winston to NY and Eli to Canton.

  29. Pete Says:

    Manning will be a Gruden Raider LONG before he’d be a BUC. 🙂

  30. DB55 Says:

    Realistically the only QB I see coming here is Tyrod Taylor or Mike Glennon.

  31. ndog Says:

    sunshine Says:

    November 14th, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    Fits is rated 8th by nfl qb rating….Winston was never even close to Fitz rating …..see folks ,top 10 qb in Tampa.. (excuses for Winston will be coming now:>)

    Hey Sunshine 3 points last Sunday and 0-4 in his last four starts. How bout those stats?

  32. BrianBucs Says:


    You just made me throw up in my mouth a little bit

  33. ndog Says:

    Hey you want Jameis gone this is what you get the washed up Eli Mannings of the world. Enjoy if you get your wish.

  34. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Saban > Pete Carroll > Jimmy Johnson > Switzer and destroyed Dan Quinn…who just throwing it out there was a super bowl coach AFTER he was DC for the Gators and also coached with Saban…..Saban has an itch and Tampa is the place he will scratch it, he has NOTHING else to prove in college and ppl like saban has to prove HE is the greatest coach ever, and the NFL is the place he can prove that, I have been told to shush regarding saying licht has been garbage for 3 years now and “experts” said I have no clue….just watch saban will be in the NFL hopefully here and not in Cleveland

  35. Jaywill Says:

    Sunshine Fitz 14th year Winston in his 4th year

  36. pick6 Says:

    i think he’ll be a started for Fox Broadcasting corp by next year. It has never been easier for a retired player to jump into a media gig than it is right now. I’d take him over Jason Witten sight unseen at this point

    Eli is a lesser version of Fitz at this point. He is leading an offense that has a better #1 WR, a comparable #2 WR, a mismatch TE, and an RB that looks like he will be one of the best for years to come….and it’s going badly

  37. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:

    I say nuke the entire Buccaneer organization from orbit and start over

  38. Jaywill Says:

    Fitz 81 career rating Winston 86

  39. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I’d rather take my chances with Griffin or another younger QB…..even a rookie…..lets stay away from these older players…..and lets dump a few of the older players we have in the process.

  40. WalkdaPlank Says:


    You seem to be very conviently forgetting that Saban was already an NFL head coach with tha Dolphins and it went horribly.

    He is the face of college football why would he leave that to come the cellar of the NFL known as Tampa Bay?

  41. Jason Says:

    I really would like to see what our 3rd string QB has in his tool bag since the season is shot anyway. I really liked the way he threw the ball in preseason.

  42. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    It didnt go horribly in Miami first year 9-7, then he wanted drew brees & dolphins management wanted daunte culpepper, power struggle and saban told dolphins to F off and went to bama….he comes to the NFL he will have no one to answer to but himself now…he also was DC of the browns under belichek when the team was in turmoil from moving and belichek and saban made that defense one of the best in the nfl despite having the crap show that was cleveland and moving….the bucs are worst than cleveland right now…prolly the 31st worst team in the nfl currently

  43. Waterboy Says:

    Heck no. Eli is a garbage QB and always has been. That lucky David Tyree catch in the super bowl along with his last name allowed him to stick around much longer than he should have.

  44. Dre Says:

    Where do you get this bull crap joes lmao

  45. Season Is Over Says:

    No Manning would ever play for this organization. Even if he was traded.

  46. AlteredEgo Says:

    OBP…..where retreads go to collect on last payday….

  47. Blogtalkfootball.com Says:

    Eli will retire before becoming a Buccaneer.

  48. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    What… Boomer Esiason & Phil Simms are not available?

  49. SB Says:

    Someone has been smoking crack!

    If the Bucs pick up Eli I will give up on my 43 years of fandom.

  50. gambelero Says:

    Manning, Saban, pleeeease. If someone at One Bucs is contemplating it, stop, and slowly back away from your desk.

    As Ndog and Lord said. Cutting a 25 year old Winston and bringing in a 39 year-old Manning is just plain nuts.

    Saban built Bama from the ground up, the best recruiting infrastructure, facilities, analytics team, assistant coaches (with head coach-like salaries). If Saban returns to the NFL, it’ll be more than “control” he’ll want, a Gruden like salary combined with an open spigot for infra-structure.

  51. El Buco Realisto Says:

    This smells like and article to fear mongering the sheep!!!!!!! That it is implied if Jw3 is let go the only choice is fitz or a broken down old Eli!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lets see who the new GM is first and work from there!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. Anonymous Says:

    I think the general consensus is don’t smoke the crack pipe any longer your I’ll. Get rid of an old guy to bring in an even older who has a worse win loss record than Fitz this year. Yea ok

  53. Iron wombat Says:

    Ahahahaha careful what you wish for Jameis haters.

  54. Eric Says:

    BTW Eli had more pics than Jameis in his first three years as a starter.

    They wanted to run him out of New York.

    Then Tom Coughlin got a hold of him and he won two Super Bowls. See what can happen if you don’t give up on a young QB?

    But to the point this would be total insanity.

  55. 813bucboi Says:



    lets see who the new GM hires as HC first, then we can worry about the QB situation…..


  56. Cgmaster27a Says:

    Wow ,there are some on here dumb enough to want nick saban?! The guy who tucked his tail between his legs and ran from the dolphins?! Saban is a mediocre coach who literally has the most talented team every time they step foot on the field. And average playing field like the pros and hes exposed for being hilariously overrated.

  57. sunshine Says:

    cgmaster ..Saban may be over rated but… His Alabama team beat the bucs this year :>)

  58. Cgmaster27a Says:

    Sunshine, I’m not sure your point? What buc team? And yes at least you agree hes highly overrated though. Give him this tampa team and we wouldnt have won any more games than we have.

  59. Bculaw Says:

    I’m all for Manning. That is, I think Peyton would be perfect for that President of Football Operations position so many have been calling for. He’d also be a great mentor for our 24 year old QB. Sign me up!

  60. Bculaw Says:

    Oh, this is about Eli.

    Nevermind. Not interested.

  61. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Not sure why you are on this Saban bandwagon.

    First it’s never going to happen. Saban just made 11.125 million dollars this year including a 4 million bonus that was part of an 8 year contract he signed in May. We don’t know what kind of buyout he has but it’s got to be incredibly steep for a guy making ten million a year. He’s a god in Bama…member of their sports hall of fame and every year he remains he becomes larger relative to Bear Bryant’s reputation. So I do not see any potential deal for the Glazers. And not to go all Tmax or anything but why would Saban or Harbaugh want to leave their cushy gigs for a job with arguably the worst franchise in the NFL.

    Secondly…I can think immediately of Jimmy Johnson and perhaps Barry Switzer as college coaches who succeeded in the NFL. There are far more who never came close including star coaches like Steve Spurrier and….NICK SABAN.

    His career NFL record is 15-17…his ONLY losing season was his last in Miami. The decision he made that tells us he doesn’t know his backside about selecting NFL QB’s…he started 9-7 in year one and people were fired up for year two. He needed a QB. He got to pick from Drew Brees and Daunte Culpepper…he took Culpepper! A losing season and he was off to Alabama.

    I do not like Saban personally. I’m not really a Bama fan either.
    Having said that I certainly accept that Saban might be the GOAT of college coaches. But it is such a different game.

    Not only do coaches not generally fare well making the change IMHO the QB’s often struggle as well when they come from powerhouses like Bama. It’s because if you’re playing for Bama, Clemson, Michigan and maybe a couple of others this year…your team’s third string is better than most other teams first. These guys are playing in LOADED lineups. They get to the NFL and suddenly realize the effect of the draft and salary cap. Hell even the Bucs could win this Sunday.

    While I concede Saban is certainly a great starting point for who is the very best NCAA coach…I personally prefer Dabo Sweeney.

    But I wouldn’t want Dabo or any top ten college coach for the Bucs.

  62. ATrain Says:

    Trade and Draft OLine help
    Make a wall

    Bring Jamies in for his 5th year

    Get a HC
    Let Monk call plays

    Need a few CB

    Play out the year

  63. Tampa Bay Demon Says:


    I thought it was about Cooper Manning! 😉

  64. Frank Pillow Says:

    We HAVE hit rock bottom

  65. Anonymous Says:

    Why is Jameis not playing this is crazy Fitz can throw INTs but if Winston does he gets bench come on Dirk Licht Fitz Djac all have to go clean house bring in new coach an management an let Jameis thrive

  66. Mr Kleen Says:

    Tampa Bay Demon Says:
    “What… Boomer Esiason & Phil Simms are not available?”


  67. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Eli won’t come to Tampa. Not without a good defense.

    And years ago, I wanted Drew Brees here and people said he was garbage and washed up. The Saints got him and the rest is history.

    So don’t count the two superbowl winning QB out just yet.

  68. BelleGladeBuc Says:


    How many Super Bowl Rings does Saban have? Jimmy has 2 and Pete has 1. Both have college championships. Super Bowl Championships are far greater than Colldge Championships in achievement. Don’t give me maybes, probablys, ifs or buts. Saban has never been a Super Bowl Champion Head Coach. For that matter, Saban has never been a winning Head Coach in the NFL. Saban is a loser in the NFL, 15-17 with the Dolphins. Saban and Koetter have that in common. Give me Harbaugh or McCarthy if they are fired over Saban any day. Actual Championship coaches who have multiple playoff seasons.

  69. ChanEpic Says:

    So we’re just going to pass on Foles, or Bridgewater and go straight to someone else who is not doing too well at the position? Yep, that would be soooo Bucs.

  70. Eric Says:

    Why in the world would Saban come coach the bucs?

    Hes king of the world in Bama.

    Silly to even ponder.

  71. Eric Says:

    Foles or Bridgewater?


    Good Lord.

  72. GhostofSchiano Says:

    ATrain Says:

    Trade and Draft OLine help
    Make a wall

    Bring Jamies in for his 5th year————- On a one year prove it deal.

    Get a HC
    Let Monk call plays

    Need a few CB

    Play out the year


  73. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Not going to happen, just like Arians is not going to happen and neither is Pagano.

    A lot of work to be done, a lot of issues to correct, many players to develop.

    Perhaps the toughest division in football, who would want to come here?

    The only draw….. Sweet Glazer loot.

  74. ChanEpic Says:

    Yeah Foles a SB winner and Bridgewater a person who lost his job to injury. I don’t get what you don’t get, both of those guys are better than what we have now and Eli.

  75. Mike Johnson Says:

    PLEASE..Don’t Bust my knees here Joe. LMAO. manning with the Bucs? He’s definitely on the downside of his career. But…watch us resurrect him come Sunday. We always bring back dead players. I wouldn’t be surprised if Manning has a career high against us. WHY? Cause thats what we do.

  76. AfrikaThaRapper Says:

    Are my eyes deceiving me??? Ohh hells no !!! Somebody at One Buc Place must be smoking crack.

  77. SchwiftyBuc Says:

    No. No. No.

    Stick with Jameis. Matter of fact, give him a 5 year extension. End the curse of never having signed a drafted QB to a 2nd contract. Lift the pressure off his shoulders and watch him bloom.

    As it seems to the hard core fan, their are too many curses afflicting the Bucs. It’s time to end at least one of them.

    #FireKoetter #ResignJameis #EndTheCurse

  78. Rick Says:

    Eli and a rook? Maybe we can have our version of farve/ Rodgers.

  79. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Eli behind this line? That’s funny

  80. EEK Says:

    One thing that is accurate is that Fitz has beaten out Winston
    Sadly, Winston couldn’t beat out a career average to below average qb who has been fired from a handful of teams already

    I don’t see how Winston can make it back in Tampa after this

    Eli is no better than what we have in either Fitz or Winston. That would feel like an act of desperation….I suppose it is possible

  81. unbelievable Says:

    Oh god no.

    But it would so be the Bucs to do something dumb like this.

    Eli is less mobile than JW or Fitzpatrick. How in the world do you think he would possibly survive back there?

  82. Skoorb43 Says:


  83. SchwiftyBuc Says:


    So you’re just gonna sit here and pretend like Ryan Fitzpatrick, a 14 year veteran who’s had streaks of elite play as well as horrendous play his whole career but I digress… Are you gonna sit here and pretend like he didn’t throw for 1200 yards and 11 touchdowns in the 3 games he started in Jameis’ place? Not many QB’s in the NFL could beat out that kind of play.

    Now I’m not just gonna sit here and make excuses for the games that Jameis played this year outside of the Atlanta game in which he played pretty phenomenally, he stunk. And he deserved to be benched at the time.

    But to be plain and simple, I just don’t have any faith in this Coaching staff, and I have even less faith in the offensive and defensive schemes. Literally only Dirk Koetters offense could achieve the never before done feat of generating 500 yards of offense and only scoring 3 points. That doesn’t happen to a well coached team. It just doesn’t.

    Give Jameis a chance with an offense that’s actually proven itself to be able to consistently generate points when it counts and score in the Redzone. Give Jameis a chance at playing on a team that isn’t giving up redzone touchdowns over 88% percent of the time. Then if he fails, you can call him a bust.

    As of right now, with the positive things he’s done on the field inside of an outdated scheme that’s not anywhere close to being QB friendly. I want to see Jameis Winston get the Jared Goff treatment.

    #EndTheCurse #ResignJameis

  84. Syl Says:

    Only this terrible franchise would think to bring Eli.

  85. Mikey Says:

    Wtf is happening with this team? What happened this year?!

  86. Fire Light Says:

    Looks like Jameis will go to the GMen to win his Super Bowl.

  87. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    I think Eli most likely ends up with the raiders, Gruden loves those has-been quarterbacks. I would much rather trade for Carr after they sign Eli.

  88. AZBucsFan4Lyfe Says:

    Wow, a lot of you people are comical. You think this team is bad because of JW. The tragedy is the coaching staff.
    The head coach picks his buddy for Def Coord. Has the worse defense in the league and you bring him back.
    Then you have the Off Line Coach, who can’t get the line to gel. Or put in a proven blocking scheme. But lets keep him.
    Then Monken proves, you can put up points in this poor concept offense. But you take back the play calling.
    You hire Buckner, who does a lot of talking, but no results.
    But the best QB this franchise ever had is the bad guy.
    Whatever you guys are smoking…..Its the good stuff…..lol

  89. Conte Piscatelli Says:


    The problem with Winston is that he is Ryan Fitzpatrick without the deep ball, both are streaky and prone to turnovers. Now remember six NFL franchises moved on from Fitz, chances are six will move on from Jameis as well.

    As for the Goff treatment, I can only say that I don’t think Todd Gurley is available to provide 65% of our offences production

  90. Bobby M. Says:

    Koetter with Manning would be interesting…..I would argue our o-line is better then the Giants and Manning does pretty well when he some time to throw which hasn’t been the case in NY. He would need a running game upgrade….Barber isn’t dynamic enough to carry the load.

  91. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Exactly!!! I was fishing through career stats and Jameis and Fitz are almost identical…it’s eerie. But if you think about it they do have similar games…great success marred by absurd ints.

    Jameis has the stronger arm…Fitz is more accurate. Both have too much faith in their ability which causes them to frequently take bad chances.

  92. joestang Says:

    I would rather see Josh Freeman than Eli. Isnt there a qb out there thats less than 38 years old?

  93. Trench War Says:

    This requires the shortest answer possible.

    No Eli

  94. Trench War Says:

    start Griffin

  95. snookman Says:

    No to Eli he’s 38 and he sucks.
    Maybe Flacco, but he kind of sucks
    Hopefully David Carr he has potential and is being held back by his coach
    QB Draft……..hopefully we will have a starter in place for this player to develop.

    this Organization is F’ed. think about it. Unless we land a stud FA qb, which is not going to happen, We are going to have to start over with a player that will be raw and we will fail to develop. ………………Its a bucs life

    Jameis was a waste of time………..much like Josh Freeman.

  96. orlbucfan Says:

    Bucs need Manning like they need smallpox. Let Griffin start Sunday. The problem is the HC hasn’t made a successful transition to the position. DK is a brilliant OC but he is stumbling very badly as a HC. Be great if that radically changed Sunday, but I doubt it.

  97. Wesley Says:

    Are you freaking joking Joe.

  98. Trench War Says:

    Wouldn’t it be something if all along Ryan Griffin was our franchise QB? The one guy who has never taken a real snap in a regular season game turns out to be the best QB on the team. Guess we’ll never know.

  99. Fire Light Says:

    @AZ you are 100% correct.

  100. Briandorry55 Says:

    He is DONE. He has been done for a few years. Fitz is a better player at this point. No thanks…and trying to draw a link to a team that will have a new front office and coaching staff come the offseason is weak.

  101. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Trench War

    If nothing else, the roster spot occupied Ryan Griffin for the past several years with be a question to Bucs fans for years to come regardless of his impact on the team.

    I’d at least like to see him play.

  102. Knack2Babbyyyy Says:

    This ain’t it Chief.

  103. D1 Says:

    Buc fan,

    Its the only way to be sure

  104. D1 Says:

    St Pete bucs,

    Saban wanted Drew Brees but the Dolphins team doctor won’t sign off on his shoulder.
    In no way shape or form was Culpepper Saban’s pick. Not getting the QB He wanted, Brees is why he dropped the Dolphins like a bad habit.

    Brees was sure He was signing with the Dolphins and was left with the saints as their team doctor would have cleared Hannibal Lecter by declaring He had an eating disorder.

    As for why Bama hasn’t been sending QB ‘should to the NFL it’s really simple, the offense is power run based and isn’t attractive to a HS passing QB. The best HS recruits in the nation are not going to Bama because the scheme isn’t suited for them. The 1 QB recruit in nation last year selected Clemson, why…scheme.

    Could Saban be successful, absolutely, there’s zero doubt about it. Why because He knows how to evaluate talent , super successful in developing players, has the organizational skills,
    Knows how to construct an organization, and can scheme with the best of them.

  105. Warthog Says:

    Holy mother of sheba NO

    This guy shoulda retired 3 years ago

    Everything he won, he won when an incredible regime surrounded him with a firebreathing D and just enough O to eke out wins

    Any time he shouldered his team to victory it looked like a fluke.


  106. DalvinCookRules Says:

    How about go get a GM and head coach who know how to win first. Then, sit back and trust their ability to do what’s best for the team. If there’s anything that’s been proven by fans & talking heads in the media–it is that they are wrong 90% of the time (and that’s being generous).

  107. JimmyT Says:

    Hey Dushty?
    Eli stop gap & draft Grier in 2nd round? See this why all the haters if Jameis get ZERO RESPECT because they have NO CLUE ON WHAT THEY SAY! News FLASH, Will Grier will be a top 10 draft pick! Just amazing the depth of knowledge from posters!!