Effort Scolded

November 5th, 2018

You know it’s bad when the Buccaneers’ effort is being questioned — by a guy who collects a check from the organization.

There he was on the 97.9 FM postgame show last night, former Bucs tight end John Gilmore let it hang out again about the Tampa Bay offensive line.

If you remember, Gilmore, a Buccaneers Radio Network analyst, called the right side of the Buccaneers offensive line a “hot mess” last week.

Yesterday he was lamenting about O-linemen getting turned around “180” and “360” versus the Panthers. The line is soft right now, Gilmore said, and it’s all about “effort and physicality.”

Effort and physicality. Ugh.

Joe has re-watched every Bucs-Panthers offensive snap with a focus on the offensive line. Donovan Smith not playing to the whistle consistently is a common theme — and that’s always about effort or conditioning — in most games.  Two sacks yesterday clearly were on him.

Caleb Benenoch at right guard does his share of good things, but he gets beaten badly every week and just isn’t there yet.

36 Responses to “Effort Scolded”

  1. ChanEpic Says:

    Joe(s) allow me to summarize this post.


  2. BigPoppaBuc Says:

    Donavon Smith is a consistent loafer for sure and it’s a shame because I do believe there’s talent in that young man. Jensen and Marpet are our only legit linemen. I think it’s time to see what Cappa can do. When Fitz is playing teams will blitz all day cause they know this line can’t handle it.

  3. DB55 Says:

    Sometimes I feel like a parent watching their kids learn on their own.

    Seems like I’ve been saying ALL OF THIS since the summer but of course wtfdik I’m just a lonely ol troll who lives under a bridge I guess.

    I blame the media for carrying a false narrative and deceiving all these fine folks

    Darn shame they can’t see it for themselves.

    I’ve been trying to find this post I made over the summer where I said that it doesn’t matter how many weapons you have on offense if you don’t have a oline. And with the right-side of the line still developing in pop warner somewhere there no wonder the Bucs can’t compete.

    But yea let’s stick with Fitz he’ll certainly take us places if not today maybe next yr or the year after that.

  4. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Blow it up. Fire Licht and the entire staff IMO. We have an offensive nucleus for the next coach to build around. We need a better GM / visionary for building a defense and well rounded competitive team.

  5. TOM Says:

    D Smit was the same way in college. An underachiever. IMO Benenoch will never be a starting caliber RG. Also Warhop needs to go.

  6. Adambomb418 Says:

    Donavon Smith was known as a loafer coming out of college. Why would we expect different?

  7. Bobby M. Says:

    IMO….Donavon Smith has the attitude that either Bucs will pay him….or someone else will. He’s a “top 15” LT according to some and that’s probably enough for him to get paid…somewhere.

    This team was built entirely a$$ backwards….We should have the best LT we can buy to protect a young QB with inconsistencies….Instead we loaded up the receiving corp and went thin on the line. When grooming a young QB, stack the defense and stack the run game….As the QB matures, take less emphasis off either the defense or the run and give the QB more weapons to carry the team. That’s the model that would have given Winston a chance but still no guarantee he could succeed. Licht thought for certain Winston was the next Tom Brady and went all in on “weapons for Winston”….its been nothing but a series of disasters.

    Think about this…Under Licht we’ve had TWO head coaches….FOUR defensive coordinators…FOUR kickers….TWO starting QBs….Countless misses in rds 1-3. Koetter/Monken are still throwing up ridiculous stats on offense with a total circus going on around them. That’s all on the GM. Hargreaves and Winston were bust for their selections…QB is extremely tough but to whiff on a CB? Licht has zero vision….At best he scouts and negotiates but he’s clueless on building a contender. This is yr FIVE and we suck.

  8. NPRSageBoy Says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Game stats are for losers. Only stat that counts is W/L record. Bucs remain woeful in that category.
    Sorry to have to say it, but it’s time to start over

  9. LakeLand Says:

    Washington will take out their frustration on the Bucs

    After being “Monkey Stomped” at home
    By the Falcons

  10. AlteredEgo Says:

    “It pays the same”…mentality

  11. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    See the Suck.

    Feel the Suck.

    Embrace the Suck.

    It’s a Sucks Life!

  12. thee good ol'e days Says:

    what’s the common denominator here, collecting their pay, these guys are just try-n to get paid and get out after 16 regular season games, preseason, mini camp, and ota’s which to many of us is not a full years work for an astronomical payday, there is some one in that locker room, and i am fully insinuating without actually naming because, well legal ramifications and out right proof, which without a confession or another player snitching him out, is just a theory, but this player has been on the team for many years and thought of well around the league, but he is the type that really never gets overly concerned or emotional about wins and losses, it’s all a game, a business you understand right, this guy has no heart, no will, and no desire to play post season, on the contrary he would much rather be having a grande old time at a comic con event, this is a man who has made a kings ransom, but has performed on the scale of a kings jester, rarely making the big time game changing play, or the double digit sack die i say rarely i meant never, this guy has tainted and infected the younger and up and coming players who have been somewhat starstruck in his presence, i;ll be glad when he retires at the end of the season or gets cut whatever comes first

  13. Not there yet Says:

    Well licht and the media are the only ones pushing the narrative that he’s getting extended. It’s bad enough the bucs suck just as bad as the 2-14 record that got us Winston but what’s worse is extending the stay of guys like him because he’s playing like the bucs have no other options and he HAS to be extended. Guys getting contracts extended because they are buddies and a close knit family is stupid. That why licht should be done for, no one here will make the hard choices to get things going forward

  14. 813bucboi Says:

    so he’s saying the team quit….what else is new…..


  15. gotbbucs Says:

    This was Donovan Smith’s MO in college. Nothing has changed. Tender him with a 2nd round pick and pray someone takes him off your hands.

  16. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Oh no, we suck………AGAIN

  17. D-Rome Says:

    Where are all the “Totally Confident” folks that thought this team was going 11-5?

  18. uckinator Says:

    Soft coach, soft practices, soft team. I just moved over to the “Blow it up” side. This team is infected with excuses and softness. The only cure is a radical operation with a massive blood transfer. Soft, Soft, Soft. No hope; only pain.

  19. BADMAN Says:


  20. mdsbuc Says:

    Smith is just another of Jason Licht’s busts, by draft or by way of free agency. He’s hit on a few, but for the most part he’s been a disaster as a GM.

  21. Jerry Jones Says:

    I love the fact team Glazier’s paying money to have guys tell them they suck, AGAIN.

  22. SchwiftyBuc Says:

    Donovan Smith is not good enough to be legit starting LT in this league. The only consistent thing about Smith besides his health is that he’ll have a few games every game where he loafs or gets dusted on a block and he gets the QB killed.

  23. Dooshlarue Says:

    They see GMC loafing for big bucks so why not them too?

  24. Larry Says:

    Fitz was getting pummeled Sunday at the Panthers. Not sure how he even survived it. He needs to get an award for hazardous duty pay. Benenock, as of Sunday, is not an NFL quality player. Compare the Panthers drafted players to the Bucs. It’s a huge difference. the Bucs best receiver was held to almost nothing by one of their draft choices. Coaching and drafting are a problem that needs to be fixed.

  25. Mike Johnson Says:

    Donovan Smith got beat like a drum on Sunday. That guy addison/akinson whatever his name is..Did a couple of Double power spins on Donavan that left him eatin dirt a few times. Ans on one bull rush, he flat out pancaked Donovan.
    I refuse to embrace..the Suck. Either get new coaching in here or sell the dam team Glazers!

  26. Tony LA Says:

    Do not resign Donovan.
    Been saying that for YEARS

    The Bucs ain’t winning with him, so why give him 60 million plus?!

    Also – let’s STOP giving Licht a free pass. He has made some good drat choices, but overall he is (at best) mildly mediocre.

    Case in point: How is the team doing with Vea and Rojo?
    And Licht probably will not be around to see them ever pay dividends.

    Imagine this team with Derwin James and one of the thriving offensive guards that were available at the top of round 2.
    Then imagine the team signing one of the free agent RBs like AP to run behind that new offensive guard.

    I GUARANTEE you this team would be 4-4 at worst right now if Licht had drafted players who were actually contributing right now.

  27. Bucamania Says:

    I was fine with Licht until this last draft when he sh$t the bed. I even gave him a pass on Aguayo. But picking Vita f’ing Vea over Derwin James and Da’Ron Payne is criminal. And Ronald Jones is absolute trash. The CBs… maybe Davis will turn into something but MJ is too slow. Just a huge whiff in the draft.

  28. Mike Says:

    This isn’t college- these guys shouldn’t be making well over six and seven figures to learn on the job. What a joke- draft a guy who’s game ready like every other team seems to do-
    St. Louis has 8 #1s on defense- surprise surprise they are a top team-
    Light should be fired- he’s klueless like Koetter

  29. cmurda Says:

    @DB55 WTFDIK too because I’ve been saying the same things. It’s borderline criminal that Licht thought he could repair this D Line with a bunch of guys that other teams didn’t want except for JPP. It should be of no surprise that JPP is performing more than admirably. This O Line has been a consistent sore eye for this team. No effort was spent on the line. I’ve been screaming at the top of my lungs that NFL games are won in the trenches and our trenches have been baby soft for as long as we’ve sucked. It’s not rocket science. I’m not even going to get into Licht missing the picks he should have made in favor of Vea and MJ Stewart both of which are hot garbage. The coaching staff needs to be shown the door and so does Licht.

  30. lambchop Says:

    And some people on here want Donovan Smith to get paid. SMH. It would be a HUGE mistake. Imagine the lackadaisical play once he’s cashed in. This dude is Chris Baker like.

  31. jerseybuc Says:

    3 hours of yelling at the TV and then I have to watch the players hug it out and laugh with the Panthers as they walk off the field. Totally embarrassed them, but they didn’t seem too upset to me as the game ended. Panthers were more physical and made the Bucs look like silly with all the trickery. Mentally and physically dominated us. I really don’t think it matters all that to much to them. Long as they get paid. Where is their pride?

  32. Gambelero Says:

    The two best NFC teams met last night. What really stood out was the oline play. Agree with a bunch of guys on this thread, built this team backwards.

    And I’ve never seen average level play from either tackle.

  33. JimmyJack Says:

    But we don’t need things like physicality or effort. All we need are points and yards so we can keep our #1 ranking to please the masses. And it don’t matter if we can’t score when we actually need to…..just keep us #1. If our offense can’t muster up anything until they go down by 4 scores so be it. Just keep us #1 baby!!!

  34. ElioT Says:

    Smith was all smiles and laughter on the sidelines before the “furious comeback” dude doesn’t give a s*it about winning.

    He’s not a pro but he’ll be a rich man either way.


  35. German Buc Says:

    To make things worse a football team in Seattle sings the praise of a free agent guard, they just acquired in the offseason. To sad we don’t get such guys…

  36. Jameis Almighty! Says:

    Jason Licht and Matt Millen probably play golf together.