“It’s Alright To Be Ahead In Football Games”
November 20th, 2018
Unfortunately, Lavonte David has become an expert in losing.
Sunday, his bad knee let him play spectator against the Giants and Joe talked to him about a lot of things Bucs after the game.
Frustration is pulsating through David as it is many Buccaneers. He sees the Bucs’ pattern/formula for losing and seems to think mental and physical effort for a full 60 minutes is lacking.
“It’s alright to be ahead in football games, you know,” David said. “I think us being down [in a game] is what brings everybody out to start playing. That’s the thing right now. It’s been the story of our whole season. Dirk [Koetter] comes in and says it all the time, beatin’ a dead horse, same thing every week.
“At the end of the day, man, we just got to be able to find a way to win but get out of those early situations. Four quarters of football, every down, every snap. That’s our challenge.”
Like a lot of Bucs, David sees what’s going wrong but can’t stop it.
November 20th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
They’re professionals!!! Really??? Wtf?
November 20th, 2018 at 1:40 pm
its ok to be ahead?
ok problem solved!
November 20th, 2018 at 1:41 pm
Thats the culture of this team. They dont know how to win, even when a good player comes here they seem to play down to the level of the team. You need to get a good coach and an even better GM, Derrick Brooks would be my pick for GM
November 20th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
33% lack of pride
33% lack of talent
33% lack of coaching
and 2% butterscotch ripple
November 20th, 2018 at 1:43 pm
LVD (and McCoy) needs to take his high dollar salary and leave. When was the last time HE took over a game?
November 20th, 2018 at 1:50 pm
It’s ok to be ahead. So what year is that going to start?
November 20th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Pittsburgh 24-7
Chicago 38-3
Atlanta 21-6
Cincinnati 21-0
Carolina 35-7
Washington 16-3
NY Giants 24-7
0-7 in these games
I have never seen anything like this
November 20th, 2018 at 1:53 pm
Where are you, Hardy Nickerson?
Think we could use him, circa ’93, right about now?
He TOUGHT those kids the way… and legends like Brooks, Sapp, Lynch & Barber have admitted to being “scared” to do it the wrong way, when Hardy was around.
Where are you, Hardy Nickerson?
November 20th, 2018 at 1:56 pm
The sad part is:
These team with ” Mediocre” offenses
Are out scoring the Bucs great offense early
3-4 to 1
November 20th, 2018 at 2:00 pm
^^^ Great illustration, LakeLand. — And the saddest part is… you could take some of the VERY VERY worst Bucs teams from the early years and not find a run of lopsided early scores like that. — Truly pathetic.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Unfortunately our coach does not agree. He would rather defer and play catch-up.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:05 pm
I would normally defer every single time, @JimmyJack, but I think you are right. With this team it is probably not a good idea. Try to get the early jump.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:07 pm
Lakeland do you want to know what’s more disgusting then those halftime scores? That would be last year’s half time score.
Don’t even try to combine them…..It is just too appalling.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Dirk’s team usually only stay somewhat competitive for 30-45 mins of a 3 1/2 hour game.
After that we are often down by three scores and the game is out of reach. I’ve found that it’s just easier to focus attention on other things at that point and let the game become backround noise. But that’s just me I get too angry watching unprofessional football.
That’s what the Bucs are to me on gamedays……backround noise.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:10 pm
LVD’s comments just reinforce the fact that this team is made up of high dollar losers who just make excuses every week. When will someone stand up and be truly accountable?
November 20th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Hey if you want to defer then defer. But when it is constantly leading to giving up the first score and handing away momentum you can’t continue to keep defering.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Deferring works better in Tecmo Bowl where momentum doesn’t exist.
Or if you have a defense that’s capable of getting a big stop and taking momentum.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:16 pm
@JimmyJack — Agreed, man. With this team, it is just not a good idea. Not to mention that this group doesn’t seem to be particularly mentally tough. One early score by the opposition shouldn’t immediately create a “here we go again” for our guys……. but it sure as hell seems to. — and then snowballs.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:17 pm
Dirk [Koetter] comes in and says it all the time, beatin’ a dead horse, same thing every week.
Yes, the same thing every week.
Defer the kickoff, fall behind, game pretty much over by half time, third quarter to final 30 seconds, move ball up and down the field. gain lots and lots and lots of yardage. LOSE GAME.
Yes, same thing every week.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Although the Bucs are wafer thin at LB…this fella must be so tired of losing and it may be time to call it a day. One outta seven seasons finishing above .500 (barring a win out scenario this season ) ? He may want to hit the bricks…especially if he could make the same elsewhere…which is unlikely at this point.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:28 pm
The defer kickoff makes no sense whatsoever. Can someone explain how you get an extra possession [ Dirks Statement] from kicking off to start the game? And with the defense that bad and the offense the strength, shouldn’t you be trying to go up 7-0 every week?
November 20th, 2018 at 2:32 pm
^^ @Joe Blahak
It is not that yo TRULY gain an extra possession, but you can try to manipulate the end of the first half to make it so. Similar to how a basketball team tries to create a 2 for 1 at the end of halves, with the shot clock.
All that being said, I still agree that it is not a good idea for THIS TEAM to do it anymore. For all the reasons that @JimmyJack illustrated.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:35 pm
Demon……Joe posted some quotes from Barber after the game. His words basically say that they get into that “here we go again” mode that you described.
Fans can see it and the players are mirroring our thoughts. So why the f is the coach not seeing it?
November 20th, 2018 at 2:37 pm
It almost seems like Dirk don’t care. The co-host on 620 at noon said the same thing. He don’t think Dirk cares.
That’s a pretty effed up thing to have said about you on a radio show.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:45 pm
Come on stop it already, I’ve heard enough cliches from this team to last a lifetime. Excuses and empty talk in the off-season is all these players are good for
It’s time to move in a new direction, the captains of this team have no answers and neither do the coaches. Move on to a new era. David, Geraldine have to go and only two starters on the o line should stay. I’m tired of this regime accepting this losing which they are doing because they are scared to look at the so called leaders
How in the hell do people keep looking at the rookies and younger players and say they aren’t good enough but not looking at the leaders. Very few playoff teams are looking to young players for leadership instead of the long time vets. Get em outta here already
November 20th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Too bad Dirk don’t know how to manipulate a clock ……If I were a HC I would study every move Bellicheck does for clock management.
Watch them before every half. They usually manage the clock to get the ball. They usually score too.
And I betcha they score because they knew exactly what they were going to run before they even got to the stadium. That’s called being prepared.
Dirk on the other hand will usually run out of time from stupid crap like throwing to the middle of the field for minimum gains or having an untrained player not using the sideline. We are unprepared.
November 20th, 2018 at 2:50 pm
@Tampa Bay Demon …Thanks, that makes more sense, wasn’t understanding his logic..
November 20th, 2018 at 2:50 pm
“Kobe thinks this week is the week we put down this dead Klueless horse
If they lose to the niners at RJS, Gump is going to end the Klueless Idaho potatoe
We are going down this sunday
there is not 1 man in this world that can carve up this Tampa Defense better than
Kyle Shanahan”
“Merry christmas John Lynch”
Kobe Faker
November 20th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
I ask this. Will everyone be excited for the 2019 season with Winston as the lead QB and Cancer 93 as a “leader” on defense? How painful would it be to go through ANOTHER season like this one with the same faces. It’s time to REALLY start over. New faces all around. Fire sale for Winston, DJAX and McCoy…and lets see if Griffin is a keeper.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
There is a lot on the line at RJS this Sunday. 49ers are currently slated for the #1 pick in the 2019 draft. Bucs are currently 8th. Losing out would go a long way in delousing the Den of Depression/Debacles.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
Why on earth would you defer to this defense?
As a matter of fact….we should always go for it on 4th down and never ever kick a FG…….it doesn’t matter where we give up the ball they will score on us…..so we might as well get 4 downs to get the 10 yards…..
November 20th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Lipinki…….You a bandwagon fan. Grow a spine and quit rooting for Cam Newton to come into our house and bend us over.
You might take pleasure in watching that sh**but we don’t.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
“It’s alright to be ahead…”
You can’t make this spit up! Gee Lavonte, you think?! How about trying to help the offense out every once in a while?!
November 20th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
JimmyJill…sorry Missy. I want the Bucs to win out now that you mention it. Cam already rolled up Tampa…but will get another chance later this year. Playoffs he we come! Thanks for setting me straight!
November 20th, 2018 at 3:31 pm
Wait…JimmyJill…sounds like you’re anti-Dirk. But you want him to win and therefore retained ? Keep racking up those “W’s” on Tecmo Bowl in your Mom’s doublewide…it’s paying off!
November 20th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Isn’t clear by now that something is wrong with the preparation of this team? That folks is called coaching, or lack of.
November 20th, 2018 at 3:54 pm
Ndog……Its actually been clear since last season (could make a grgument since 2016). This is why you don’t retain your HC for the sake of continunity. This is what happens.
November 20th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
It’s been clear longer then that. Think back. An offense that can score in the first half but not the second. The next year an offense that can score in the second half but not the first. A defense that can stop nobody and gives up leads. This is not new for a Bucs team.
November 20th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
stuck between boxes in the back of smitty’s U-HAUL, @realist is still blaming lovie, HK and IRMA…..lol….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!
November 20th, 2018 at 4:48 pm
@tampabaybucfan. Actually I think that might not be a bad idea going for it more on 4th down, it’s not like the defense can stop anyone, even backed up on the 1 yard line. Field position means nothing to the Bucs defense. Lol.
November 20th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
Just imagine the scorboard if this Bucs O played this Bucs D.
@Buc$evr: you are correct. Field position on this team is meaningless.
For the O, they can move the ball on any team no matter where they start. For the D, they will allow points no matter where the opponent starts.
November 20th, 2018 at 7:25 pm
might be the least intelligent buc of all time outside of the dude who ran storm into the ground that is.
the franchise has NO heart NO leadership thus NO DIRECTION…. NO HOPE!