Tyrod Taylor Revisted

October 15th, 2018

Matty Ice carved up Bucs.

The seeds of Joe’s discontent with how defensive coordinator Mike Smith runs his defense began with a handful of plays in western New York.

Last year the Bucs had just taken a 27-20 lead on the playoff-bound Buffalo Bills in their crib with 3:14 left. Yet that lead vanished in only three plays.

Tyrod Taylor, of all people, needed but three plays to drive the Bills 75 yards to tie the game at 27-27 and the Bills added a field goal later for the 30-27 winning score. When a guy like Taylor can beat you in only three plays, you’ve got problems.

Joe was reminded of that yesterday when the Dixie Chicks took over possession with 26 seconds left in the half. The Bucs had just pulled within a touchdown at 21-13 when O.J. Howard caught a 10-yard pass from America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.

Here is what transpired:

* Matty Ice pass short left to Austin Hooper for 14 yards.
* Matty Ice pass short right to Justin Hardy for 17 yards.
* Matty Ice pass deep left to Julio Jones to Tampa Bay-28 for 16 yards.

That set up a 45-yard field goal by Matt Bryant.

There was that matador defense. Take away Bryant’s field goal there, and the Bucs at the end of the game didn’t need to try a high school play. They would have only needed a field goal to send the game into overtime.

Good thing Smith had a whole bye week to fix his defense, eh?

66 Responses to “Tyrod Taylor Revisted”

  1. Bucsfanman Says:

    In a word, “EMBARRASSING!”
    26 seconds!

  2. ATrain Says:

    Add one of the two misses by Jamies in the end zone one with an INT

    And we can run out the clock at end
    Dang lots of ways to slice the pie
    My guess Joe is you are given a list of Players to leave alone so you have access to the Bucs
    Talk about Winston or GMC and the Bucs Access Card is REVOKED
    Very silly stuff. Joe wrote a Jameis post yesterday after the game “Not Good Enough” …Ira Kaufman has written to dump Jameis completely if he goes 5-7 as a starter in his return. Joe has written many positive and negative things about Jameis. And Joe has been very balanced on McCoy, including sharing the shots at him from Ian Beckles.

  3. Robert Says:


    we knew this would happen coming into the game. the goal was to score more points, but with the loss of d jax that is virtually impossible.

    I called the loss pefectly, but do’t know how to look up my post.

    we will lose to the browns, jw will be traded IF we get decent compensation.

    ryan has illuminated jw’s weakness and that he is not worth 100 mill

  4. Dapostman Says:

    The error started when the Bucs did not mortar kick to the Atlanta 5 with the 26 seconds left in the first half. They kicked it deep and no time ran off the clock. Force the Falcons to use clock to advance the ball. This is football 101 in that situation and these coaches need to go back to school.

  5. ben Says:

    A-Train……Thank you for your wisdom as i could never understand why until now!!:>))

  6. Cgmaster27 Says:

    Robert I like how you hedge you jameis bet with decent compensation. Hes not going anywhere, maybe you should with your same tired rhetoric. 4 TDs and 400 yards wins most games, except teams with HISTORICALLY the worst defense of all time. The same game from fitz in The Steelers loss and you’re praising him, pathetic. But you go ahead and keep pretending it’s the offenses fault.

  7. Robert Says:


    is jw worth 100 mill?

    I’ll wait.

  8. Eric Says:

    Offensive numbers are up across the league. The Chiefs are on pace to set records for defensive ineptitude.

    The Patriots D got shredded last night.

    Even the Jags gave up 40.

    Its the new normal, better accept we got to outscore the other team. We almost pulled it off. Beat Cleveland and were back in the hunt.

  9. Eric Says:

    Jameis is totally worth 100 million.

  10. Robert Says:

    4 TD’s and 400 yards does win most games, but not with multiple turnovers.

    and I was saying start jameis as soon as he got back, but hey, i don’t give him a chance.. lol

    reality is a b*tch man.

    for the money, fitz is the better player………thats point 1. point 2 is jw is too risky to even sign long term given his lies. point 3 is he’s just not worth 100 mill….so you know there will be issues come contract time. he’ll get another start. they will lose, he will be traded, fitz will come back and take us to the playoffs…….not because he is better than jw, but because he is better motivated as he’ll never have this chance again…and he’s playing with house money while jw has the pressure of his entire future at stake

  11. ATrain Says:

    Wait a min CG you called to bench Fitz for the same thing Jamies just did

    Pathetic is right
    Blindly following a man is pathetic

    Also Jamies is supposed to be superior to Fitz but same result

    I bet DJax wants Fitz back

    Pay him 100 million and sink the ship

    Jamies is Average at best

    By the way Ryan won with a Crap Defense

  12. Dooshlarue Says:

    Jameis is not worth big money, he’s ok and not great.

  13. LakeLand Says:

    The offense had a full week to prepare for a defense that’s missing 4 starters

    They went Punt/Punt/Interception

    The Falcons offense went TD/TD/Td

    This episode created the 21-6 hole

  14. LakeLand Says:

    14 teams are averaging 25 points or more
    6 defenses are allowing 20 points or less

    This is an offensive league
    The rules favor offenses
    Defenses are at an disadvantage

  15. LakeLand Says:

    And the Bucs need to quit turning the ball over

    9 turnovers during this 3 game losing streak

    It’s inexcusable

    And it’s hurting the defense

  16. Resurrection of Fitz Says:

    After 6 weeks we have learn the following:

    1) Our defense plays 1/2 a game sometimes
    2) Our DC is unable to prepare their defense to bring the hammer in the first half
    3) We finally seem to have found balance in the offense
    4) FitzMagic gave us the honor of experiencing as a fan an unstoppable aerial attack.
    5) FitzMagic became a bigger pain in the a$$ to Winston than his lawsuit since Fitz thought Winston the benefit of connecting with Jackson deep.
    6) Until Winston connects with Jackson deep we will not win again.
    7) We have the possibility to finish the season with the #1 offense and the #1 draft pick in 2019.

  17. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:


  18. Resurrection of Fitz Says:

    In the last play Koetter did not trust Winston to connect with his tall receiver/tight ends. SMH

  19. LakeLand Says:

    The Bucs should have dropped 50 points on the Falcons defense

  20. Darin Says:

    I am sure Monken took the time left into consideration on the drive. I am also sure monken didnt think 26 seconds was gona be enough for a fg. All 3 units must now take into account the d coordinator on every play and drive. Sickening the o coordinator now must play d coordinator by chewing up more clock on offense. Thats what we’ve come to tho. Cmon Glazers pull the plug!!

  21. LakeLand Says:

    The Falcons defense came into the game allowing 32.6 a game
    121 in the last 3 games
    The Bucs score 29

    Something wrong with this picture

  22. pelbuc Says:

    Yes, that’s why this idiot franchise will pay $100 million to a QB that throws at least 2 picks per game and forces his inaccurate passes and fails to see wide open WRs. Nick Foles and Fitz could do better with this group. Bucs need to invest in the defense to replace GMC, Kwon, Grimes, Ryan Smith, Taylor, Spence and Gholston.

  23. ATrain Says:


    Joe is Totally Missing in Action

    Nothing from him on this discussion


  24. Defense Rules Says:

    After yesterday Joe’s speechless ATrain.

  25. Robert Says:

    we are in the minority atrain, lakeland and anyone else with common sense who does not agree jw is the next peyton manning.

    bill cosby yeah, manning not so much

  26. Rick Says:

    Let Jameis walk, sign another veteran qb, completely open qb competition and let the best man win. Jameis is the best option but not at 100 million. No thanks. Bring in some vets in the secondary.

  27. webster Says:

    Lakeland you are trully an idiot. I am sorry. You mention nothing about the fact your kicker missed an extra point which means we had to go for two which means the bucs should have scored 31 which means thats right there with the average of 32.2 you keep talking about. Which reminds me, you do know what average means correct? Your problem is the defense does things no other defense does and allowing a team to score in 3O seconds to end the half is just an embarrasment. You truly are an idiot fan. You were the type of fan that blamed the defense during the sapp days that gave up a late td to change the score from 13 – 1O to 2O to 1O. Your genius analysis was championship teams get a stop there. Nevermind the fact they have been on the field 4O minutes of play, they had a defensive td, another 2 turnovers and 4 sacks while glossing over the fact the offense sucked again for the 4th year in a row. I love to see you genius fans with your genius analysis. Lets overlook the fact that the bucs are once again giving up the most pts, yards, completion % and worst on 3rd down because the bucs offense didnt score 5O. Yea thats genius analysis. John madden could not said it better himself.

  28. webster Says:

    Pel buc

    Fitz threw 5 picks in 3 and a half games. Do you not remember or his picks do not count because he is white? Help me understand?

  29. joestang Says:

    This defense sucks, Licht needs to go. I watchewd press confrence and Koetter said he was encouraged by some play on both sides of ball. What the hell is wrong with him, he seemed clueless, my confidence in Koetter is fading with each loss. PS Who called plays today? I would say Koetter did due to the predictability of play calling. Jameis cannot throw a deep ball and hit someone in stride.

  30. BUCS4EVA Says:

    People on this board act like it is “their money” which is being used to pay Bucs players. Look around the league and see what starting QBs in the this league make. Hate to tell all the Winston haters, but starting QBs in this league make $100 million on a long term deal. Period. It is the most costly position out there. Look at the cost of the franchise tag on the position.

  31. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Tyrod Taylor = Bills playoff appearance
    Jameis = Uber suspension

  32. John Says:

    If us fans band together and NOT go to games, not watch on TV or listen on the radio for a few weeks it’ll begin to hit ownership in the pockets and at that point they “MAY” decide to take action and change Mike Smith’ role…. Ownership are obviously smart and wily business people; there’s virtually no way they can not know that our defense is probably the worse EVER in the history of the NFL (and what a shame with so much talent to lean on)…
    If ownership will not step in and take action us fans should do our part and not contribute our hard earned money to these billionaires who refuse to step in and do what needs to be done in order to give us hard working people a team and product to be proud of… Does anyone think that ownership can be proud of the current defensive product? Refuse to give them your money for a few weeks and we’ll (hopefully) see a different play-caller on defense…….

  33. ATrain Says:


    You have been balanced on McCoy
    You share others negative views but No negative view from you

    Your article in Jamies not good enough

    Umm I believe this was more on Kicker missing One Point
    Defense playing terrible

    Sorry Joe
    I’m looking for the True call out

    Jamies cant throw the long ball
    This is the whole reason for DJax and prob why we won the first two games
    Winston makes poor choices the endZone pass the over throw INT

    To be Elite you have to Make the Big Plays

    Winston is a good QB but isn’t a game changer

  34. adam from ny Says:

    i said it before and i will say it again…with this team the only way to win is use fitzie as qb and win shootouts by scoring 40+ points…he is the only bucs qb who can hit the long ball – resulting in extra points…jameis is a 28 point guy…you can tack an extra 14 on with fitzie…to 42 points, more or less…

    koetter and smith are a step behind almost everyone in the league – it’s quite a problem…

    we can win wild shootouts if we give into that methodology…right now we are not giving into it…koetter and smitty think they have a defense…they inevitably are 2 dumb dudes

  35. adam from ny Says:

    if baker slay-field lights us up next week, then what…give smitty a purple nurple and a wedgie???

  36. Jeffbuc Says:

    Mike Smith just got fired

  37. deminion Says:


    finally canned Mike Smith !!!

  38. JGhoti86 Says:

    @ Joe

    EVERYBODY…look at the headline on nfl.com right now. Smith fired!

  39. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    miike smith canned next licht i hope

  40. Scurvy Dogs Says:

    Mike Smith fired!!!

  41. Humpty Dumpty Says:


  42. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Ian Rappaport reports Bucs have fired Mike Smith !

  43. Sunday_44 Says:

    Mike Smith is GONE.


  44. DB55 Says:

    Matt Stafford makes like 130 mil and has been to the playoffs 3 times in the last 10 years and only 1 pro bowl appearance. I wonder what the difference maybe?

    Kurt cousins? Jimmy Garapolo? Gee I wonder ….something seems off but wtfdik

  45. Robert Says:

    does this mean d jax will now get the deep ball again?

  46. Aristotle Says:

    New d hopefully

  47. adam from ny Says:

    okay…maybe the season can be salvaged…smitty titty twisted the bucs fans for the last friggin time!

  48. Robert Says:

    seriously though

    good call dumping smith

    now the other elephant in the room

    getting d jax in the game again

  49. DB55 Says:

    Mark Duffner probably even worse as DC. Just announced as new DC

  50. Buc4evr Says:

    Thank you Joel,Edward and Bryan. Made my day.

  51. Hamsadwichtime Says:

    Mike smith fired!!!!! Thank You

  52. Buc believer Says:

    Can’t believe Joe has no notice on Smith being canned! Joe your slacking.

  53. K_Bassuka Says:

    The good thing that the defense can only get better.

  54. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:


  55. Bucfan1976 Says:

    So Mike Smith is now fired. Would difference does that make if you dont have the pieces on d fense.

  56. GhostofSchiano Says:

    If we lose to Cleveland the Glazers must act….MUST!

  57. TampaBayAllDay Says:

    R.I.P Mike Smith….YEEEESSSSSS

  58. SB Says:


  59. Darin Says:

    YESSSSS!!!!! I dont have to miss any games! About time someone canned him!!! Awesome news. Not sure why they didnt do it 2 weeks ago. That game was there for the taking yesterday and could be the difference in a playoff spot if Duff gets em goin. Better late than never tho!!

  60. westernbuc Says:

    Smith has a lot longer than a bye week to fix his defense now…

  61. Bucs fan #7423 Says:


  62. Bucs fan #7423 Says:


  63. Bucsfanman Says:

    They wasted valuable time in not canning him after last season. Hopefully it’s not too late to turn this thing around.
    Get it right.

  64. I'm a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Mike Smith needs to go to Walmart and see if he can get a job as a Greeter!!!! Yucs may have a chance to win a few games now……….MAYBE

  65. Rod Munch Says:

    Dirk would have punted to end the half, that way nothing bad would have happened.

  66. Ozzie the Sports Junkie Says:

    High school play ?? I would call that play with my aunt Loise and couple cousins on a 4th Labor Day picnic game ..U have the undisputed Next great QB greatest to ever wear yer not be seen on stadium property #3 with two pro bowl WR playmakers not to mention OJ who was catching everything and you go intramural middle school three yards and a cloud of Sh$t …truly Could not believe my eyes..Top 5 worst calls with game on line ever ..Pete Carroll called and thought HE MADE BAD LATE GAME CALLS…Finally #3 was NOT the obvious trouble spot ..Did gear a guy with initials on a 3 digit talker today saying Winston threw to many pucks last 3 years BECUSE OF Smith alkwYs putting him 3 scores down..Shoot me …