Connection Failures Continue
October 14th, 2018
There are many reasons the Bucs lost today (see the Dirk Koetter defense). But one contributing factor is the missing chemistry between Jameis Winston and the man who now sits just 12 receiving yards shy of 10,000 in his career.
Of course, Joe is talking about DeSean Jackson. Of the 11 incompletions thrown today by America’s Quarterback, five were to Jackson.
Two were on deep shots to the end zone, and one of those was a critical interception on an overthrow. On the other, Jackson was open but Jameis overthrew him.
Ironically, on Friday night, Koetter gushed on SiriusXM NFL Radio about how Jackson tracks the deep ball as well as any receiver he’s been seen. Keep in mind that includes hands on work with Julio Jones, Roddy White and more.
“He gets football. I mean, DeSean understands football; he understands how to get open,” Koetter said. “Another thing that I didn’t know about him, there are a lot of fast guys, some of them are track guys that converted to football; that’s not what DeSean is. He tracks the deep ball as well as anybody I’ve ever been around.”
So what is the problem with Jameis connecting with Jackson deep? There really is no answer, which is the real problem. No fix necessarily exists. Chemistry between a quarterback and a receiver isn’t something that can be explained or coached.
Koetter has said this multiple times over the years.
Today playing conditions were ideal for Jackson and Jameis and they still couldn’t connect. That’s unlikely to get easier when the elements are involved.
Joe’s not assigning blame here. It is what it is. Jameis’ arm looks to be in perfect shape, and the NFL technology in balls and uniforms reveals that Jackson remains one of the fastest players in the league. They’re just not a great fit.
If it continues, however, at some point Koetter and Todd Monken might have to reconsider how they use Jackson.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Sure looked like D Jax could’ve payed out to make a play on that beep ball that he was interfered with.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:53 pm
Jameis deep ball sucks
October 14th, 2018 at 9:53 pm
Dancing around the elephant in the room…Jameis gets credit for completions that are just that and nothing more. Go re watch the first drive and the ball placement on “completions”….then watch Matt Ryan’s first drive and the ball placement on his first drive….reminded me of Fitzpatrick’s ball placement…I hate to say it but Jameis is not an elite NFL QB and because of several flaws never will be…
October 14th, 2018 at 9:54 pm
If Jameis could hit Deshaun… we would have won… period.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:54 pm
The bomb to DJax was not an overthrow. JW actually put that ball where it needed to be but Trufant clearly bumped DJax off the route. It was a slight rub but enough to slow him down.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:55 pm
Lol…there are still people who want Mariotta over Winston.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:55 pm
maybe he’s fed up with balls being overthrown, under thrown, or the ball placed in a area that could get the receiver hurt if he caught it, i don’t know, but one things for sure, the mirage did not last long, remember back in the good old days when the defense would beg the offence just give us 17 points and we will win, now the offence has to beg the defense to hold the other team below 35 wow it is surreal
October 14th, 2018 at 9:56 pm
straight PI on that long ball to jackson in the 4th quarter.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:57 pm
Jameis just needs to fix his communication issues with DJax.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:58 pm
Can we all agree that 3 although not a bust, he is just average?
Inconsistent accuracy and his reads are as fast as they need to be.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:58 pm
Jameis cannot throw an accurate deep ball. Been watching football for 50 years — it’s obvious.
October 14th, 2018 at 9:59 pm
That deep ball in the end zone was not a “connection issue”, DJax was interferred with about the 10-5 yard line.
Then ball placement would have been perfect.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:01 pm
When you lose two games in which you score 27 and 29 points …..
IT IS THE DEFENSIVE SCHEME
Mike Smith has to go
October 14th, 2018 at 10:01 pm
Of the 11 incompletions thrown today by America’s Quarterback, five were to Jackson.
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Winston completed passes to 9 different receivers today and he threw 4 TDs to 4 different receivers.
Howard – 4/4*TD
Barber – 4/4*TD
Jones – 3/3
Brate – 1/1 *TD
Auclair – 1/1
Evans – 5/4 – 80%
Hump – 4/3 – 75% *longest play 51 yards
Godwin – 9/6 – 66% *TD
Djax – 9/4 – 44%
October 14th, 2018 at 10:07 pm
I agree on the missed P.I… I think Winston just has a flat trajectory on his passes. He’s a pitcher. Jackson doesn’t seem to like it and the two are clearly having trouble finding a happy medium.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:10 pm
Brett Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 9:54 pm
If Jameis could hit Deshaun… we would have won… period
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That’s funny bc Evans hit Djax in the hands with the ball on the final play and the ball went through djax hands and legs. If Djax catches that lateral he has a great chance to score but the ball wasn’t exactly in the breadbasket so he dropped hit per usual. And yes if he were to dive for just one pass just one…
Again I ask is 75% completion percentage (season) is 75% inaccurate? Is a QBs who completes 75% of their passes inaccurate? I don’t think so but wtfdik
October 14th, 2018 at 10:11 pm
The connection has to be better and this offense has to be more consistent. I still say the game was lost early.
After the Bucs scored a TD on the opening drive
6-0 Bucs
Atlanta Touchdown
7-6
Tampa Bay Punt
Atlanta Touchdown
14-6
Tampa Bay Punt
Atlanta touchdown
21-6
Tampa Bay Interception
The offense and defense was bad early
October 14th, 2018 at 10:11 pm
Jameis thew 4 touchdowns and we still lost! WHY IS MIKE SMITH NOT FIRED?!!
October 14th, 2018 at 10:14 pm
You can’t put yourself in that position, especially on the road against a team with a good offense.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Only record that matters is how many W’s you got. Right now the Bucs have 2 out of a possible 5. Whoever wrote this story did you see Djack get mugged on his route? Even still he almost caught up with the missle JW launched. Game on the line I thought Djack could’ve layed out for the ball and hell he possibly could’ve hauled it in
October 14th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Matt Ryan threw 5 TD against the Saints and the Falcons lost.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:17 pm
The one overthrow to DJax in the end zone, Jameis threw a perfect throw to the back of the end zone.
Trufant gave an armbar and impeded DJax’s route and it slowed him up enough to throw off the timing.
And to the NFL officials, THAT IS BLATENT DEFENSIVE PASS INTERFERENCE..
The armbar technique is not allowed to impose a receiver from running their route.
That wasn’t on Jameis. Just a BS non-call that screwed the Bucs…
October 14th, 2018 at 10:23 pm
It’s on JW…McNabb, Vick, Foles and Cousins has no issues hitting DJax in stride.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:24 pm
LakeLand Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Matt Ryan threw 5 TD against the Saints and the Falcons lost
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Yeah that’s called not our f#ggin problem
October 14th, 2018 at 10:25 pm
How many more games, and losses will it take for fans wearing rose colored glasses to see the obvious? DJax has had chemistry with all his past QB’s except JW3. Why?
October 14th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Jean Lafitte Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:25 pm
How many more games, and losses will it take for fans wearing rose colored glasses to see the obvious? DJax has had chemistry with all his past QB’s except JW3. Why?
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Because all his past QBs didn’t have to put up 40 points a game to win with a MIKE SMITH DEFENSE
October 14th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Buc fan #7423
I keep telling folks the NFC South is the wild, wild south. It’s a high scoring division. The most explosive offense wins the division.
It take points
Lots of points
October 14th, 2018 at 10:31 pm
And the bottom line is…We keep losing. Look at it this way guys, Next year, we can get excited about the new coaches and another top 5 pick in the draft. Lookin at the bright side.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:31 pm
Bucs fan #7423
So JW3’s inaccuracy is because of the defense? …silly
October 14th, 2018 at 10:31 pm
Oh and Add Nate Longshore (college), Fitz and RGIII to the list of QBs that had no issues hitting DJax
October 14th, 2018 at 10:32 pm
If you have to justify with stats about someone accuracy – they’re not truly accurate. Accuracy isn’t a just an absolute completion percentage. Accuracy is also throwing at diff angles with effectiveness, throwing and making decisions under pressure, and more.
Stop making people out to be outliers because they criticize a lower tier quarterback.
Jameis is a big boy he can handle the criticism.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Bucs fan #7423 Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Jean Lafitte Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:25 pm
How many more games, and losses will it take for fans wearing rose colored glasses to see the obvious? DJax has had chemistry with all his past QB’s except JW3. Why?
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Because all his past QBs didn’t have to put up 40 points a game to win with a MIKE SMITH DEFENSE
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Ryan Fitzpatrick did and still hit DJax with ease and they won 2 of 3 games. Your arguement just collapsed on itself.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:35 pm
I’m done. Jameis is not the answer. Dirk is not the answer. The awful uniforms with alarm clock numbers are not the answer. There is no championship team being assembled here. It’s a bummer, but it’s the truth. 8-8 at best, but not worth a lot of mental energy until major changes are made.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:35 pm
Jean Lafitte Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:31 pm
Bucs fan #7423
So JW3’s inaccuracy is because of the defense? …silly
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Jamies threw 4 touchdowns!!! HOW DO YOU NOT BLAME THIS LOSS ON MIKE SMITH DEFENSE?!?!!!!
October 14th, 2018 at 10:38 pm
@7423…the defender dropped an INT the play before his first TD so that’s a gift and Winston missed the target on the Howard TD. He should have led him on the route but he threw it to his back should…in the middle of the field?!?! Really…his accuracy is horrible.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:39 pm
NJBucsFan Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Ryan Fitzpatrick did and still hit DJax with ease and they won 2 of 3 games. Your arguement just collapsed on itself.
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Did Ryan Fitzpatrick hit Djax against the bears??? No. Why not? Because teams prepare for it AND what happened when Fitz played the STEELERS?? That’s why he’s benched
October 14th, 2018 at 10:39 pm
But he threw 4 TD’s and almost 400 yards? …all those yards to try to catch back up but it’s great in fantasy land. Jameis squandered too many early possessions and had to play catch up while Atl went into a bend don’t break prevent defense.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:40 pm
It was a team loss:
– Mike Smith’s celebrating defense
– OL (Benenoch)
– Jameis turnovers
October 14th, 2018 at 10:43 pm
NJBucsFan Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:38 pm
@7423…the defender dropped an INT the play before his first TD so that’s a gift and Winston missed the target on the Howard TD. He should have led him on the route but he threw it to his back should…in the middle of the field?!?! Really…his accuracy is horrible.
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The QB of your favorite team threw 4 touchdowns and you’re still not satisfied?? Hahahha
October 14th, 2018 at 10:44 pm
Koetter lost this team the moment he benched Fitz. While DJax didn’t have a big game he was still onboard with Fitz starting over Winston. That says a lot that a veteran WR would rather play with the backup.
But I’ll use a Winston jockhugger’s defense for the Steelers game. He threw for 400 yards and 3 TD. Yeah he had 3 INTs but 2 of them are his fault and we expect 1 INT when he has to deal with no running game and a bad OL plus a bad Defense.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:46 pm
@7423 no I’m not satisfied. I do not have a mind of child and I’m not distracted by shinny stats like you. Winston is not a franchise QB. Players on this team know it.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:47 pm
Yeah Fitz sucked against the STEELERS AND THE BEARS, that’s why he’s benched
October 14th, 2018 at 10:48 pm
Scoring 28 points is shiney stats?? That’s 4 touchdowns Jamies threw hahaha
28 points is more than enough to win every game UNLESS YOU HAVE A MIKE SMITH DEFENSE
October 14th, 2018 at 10:53 pm
Bucs fan #7423 Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:43 pm
The QB of your favorite team threw 4 touchdowns and you’re still not satisfied?? Hahahha
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My fantasy team would be happy I guess but no I don’t have Jameis as my QB and neither do 90% fantasy owners. He’s available in my office league and we have 6 legit Buc fans out of 14 teams. There is absolutely no trust in him but today was a great fantasy day if you only care about stats.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:57 pm
I care about FIRING MIKE SMITH!!!!!!
October 14th, 2018 at 10:57 pm
Bucs fan 74,
Great point!
Just amazing the number of buc fans who aren’t celebrating Winston’ s superb day. Nothing but ungrateful haters if you ask me.
October 14th, 2018 at 10:58 pm
Osweiler completed 28 of 44 passes for 380 yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions and a two-point conversion while rushing for eight yards on two carries in Sunday’s 31-28 overtime win over Chicago.
He was one TD less than Jameis and against Chicago no-less
October 14th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
Watching Tom Brady connecting deep balls with his receivers
October 14th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
Almost every offense in the NFL is putting up points
October 14th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
Dirk’s team was not prepared to run a hurry up offense and burnt up excess time with the ball. Then they got into a one minute drill and we’re unprepared and ran out of time.
They simply just did not practice for these situations. We are an unprofessional team. Interm HC needed. Dirk is not capable of fixing this or it would have been.
Same thing as last year vs Atlanta. Unprepared to play a one minute offense.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
NJBucsFan Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:23 pm
It’s on JW…McNabb, Vick, Foles and Cousins has no issues hitting DJax in stride.
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Fun fact: Djax has a career 56% completion percentage. At a glance it looks like his best yr was 58%. So there’s that but don’t let facts discourage you brother they suck at times.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
Jean Lafitte Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 10:58 pm
Osweiler completed 28 of 44 passes for 380 yards, three touchdowns, two interceptions and a two-point conversion while rushing for eight yards on two carries in Sunday’s 31-28 overtime win over Chicago.
He was one TD less than Jameis and against Chicago no-less
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Yeah well he didn’t play against a MIKE SMITH DEFENSE yah know the SAME MIKE SMITH DEFENSE that let an AVERAGE BEARS QB throw 6 TOUCHDOWNS
That’s 36 points!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:04 pm
@Jean…don’t you know you can’t compare Winston’s stats to other QBs unless it’s Farve, Manning, or other HOF QBs that did it when it wasn’t the average thing to do…
October 14th, 2018 at 11:05 pm
So yes we should all celebrate that Jameis is 18/29
October 14th, 2018 at 11:07 pm
Jean
18-28
October 14th, 2018 at 11:07 pm
Jean Lafitte Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:05 pm
So yes we should all celebrate that Jameis is 18/29
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With TERRIBLE LOVIE AND MIKE SMITH DEFENSES!!!!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:08 pm
Tampa use to be a place where they respected the defense HAHAHAHAHA
October 14th, 2018 at 11:08 pm
And for all the critism Winston will get for the endzone pick remember we had first and goal from the 2.
Winston got us to the 2 and his job should be done. Dirk’s team has not been able to convert short yardage situations in four years now and that is as big of a problem as anything we saw today.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:09 pm
sorry I was already including Cleveland North
October 14th, 2018 at 11:10 pm
Jimmy
True, that’s a good point
October 14th, 2018 at 11:11 pm
A few of Winston’s long passes today were absolute prayers. He had no idea where they were going. I look forward to watching the game again for clarification. How many times have we heard that no one can overthrow Jackson? You know that has happened way more than just today. There is a world class offense and no capable captain. Sad day in Tampa Bay.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
Well at least Chris conte is not the only Safety that got man handled by a tight end
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
The Bucs lost the game when the Falcons went Touchdown/Touchdown/Touchdown and the Bucs offense went Punt/Punt/Interception.
They dug themselves into a 21-6 hole
It’s hard to overcome that, especially on the road, playing against a good offense
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
Winston being Winston.
Falsely inflated stats coming back from double digits in the 4th
Same old Loser result.
When will they learn?
Let’s see how many L’s he can rack up in a row this year.
Coach killer.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
but also wasn’t that the drive he bounced the ball off the back of a defender in the end zone for an INT
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
@7423
Your defense came up short when you mentioned Tampa’s defense in comparison to Chicago’s….. Just sayin
October 14th, 2018 at 11:15 pm
Yeah Lakeland…..yet another game that was a basic lost cause by halftime.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:16 pm
Is that the picture of Jackson’s face when he found out Winston was coming back? Mr. Magoo delivers.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:18 pm
EEK…..You can call Winston a coach killer but Dirk knew very well going in that the reason he was hired was to devolope Winston…….Much like the rest of Dirk’s team devoloping Winston has been a failure.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:20 pm
Go watch what Mahomes is doing to a vet defense with his deep throws….
October 14th, 2018 at 11:21 pm
New England 40
Kansas City 40
This is the new NFL
20-25 points isn’t the standard for victory anymore
Give me 16 points, says Warren Sapp
Those days are gone
Teams are scoring 16 points in a quarter nowadays
October 14th, 2018 at 11:21 pm
24-6 in the first half against a defense as bad as ours …nuff said
October 14th, 2018 at 11:23 pm
Mike Bryant Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
@7423
Your defense came up short when you mentioned Tampa’s defense in comparison to Chicago’s….. Just sayin
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Tampa defense gave up 48 points to the bears, the dolphin defense only gave up 28. You FAILED
October 14th, 2018 at 11:23 pm
Wow…
October 14th, 2018 at 11:24 pm
Trech we had 13 in the 1st half
October 14th, 2018 at 11:25 pm
Is anyone watching the kc/ne game tonight? Tell me how our loss today was all on the defense. Tell me about Winston’s 4 touchdowns again. LMAO! These two teams don’t think like that. These two QBs would school JW. There are winners and people who accept losing. Tampa has a bunch of players who accept losing including Winston. That attitude translates to the field. That’s why Tampa may not win another game this year.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:27 pm
@Troy 100% agree
October 14th, 2018 at 11:27 pm
Buc1987
yeah I’m an idiot because Jameis sucked the life out of this team. You could see it in their faces and you sir are butthurt and mad at me because the obvious finally dawned on your self prescribed inebriated @ss
October 14th, 2018 at 11:29 pm
Architek
You do realize that Mahomes also threw two Ints and lost the game right?
October 14th, 2018 at 11:29 pm
Troy Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:25 pm
Is anyone watching the kc/ne game tonight? Tell me how our loss today was all on the defense. Tell me about Winston’s 4 touchdowns again. LMAO! These two teams don’t think like that. These two QBs would school JW. There are winners and people who accept losing. Tampa has a bunch of players who accept losing including Winston. That attitude translates to the field. That’s why Tampa may not win another game this year
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Does KC or NE have to score 40 points a game to win every game they play?? Or is this just an occasion? Think before you speak
October 14th, 2018 at 11:29 pm
JimmyJack
I stand corrected ty
October 14th, 2018 at 11:29 pm
Tom brady throws one touchdown pass and the patriots scores 43 points
October 14th, 2018 at 11:32 pm
Jean Lafitte Says
“Buc1987
“yeah I’m an idiot because Jameis sucked the life out of this team. You could see it in their faces and you sir are butthurt and mad at me because the obvious finally dawned on your self prescribed inebriated @s”
4 TD’s 2 INT’s 400 yards and sucked the life out of this team… that’s why you’re an idiot….and much more that got filtered out earlier. YES it’s all JW’s fault…idiot..RACIST!
I vote GOP racist…I see what’s going on!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:34 pm
Fire Mike Smith
October 14th, 2018 at 11:36 pm
Why fire Mike Smith……That seems to imply that Dirk is doing a good job.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:37 pm
I have to agree with Bucs fan #7423 but I’m willing to wait to see how we handle the Browns @ home first.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:39 pm
Trench I agree I’m calling for an Intern HC but I’d give this hopeless staff one more home game……I’m not sure why really.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:39 pm
Dirk is responsible for the offense, THATS PUTTING UP 30 POINTS A GAME. But that’s good enough because u need at least 40 points with A MIKE SMITH DEFENSE !!!!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:40 pm
Remember when we were 2-0 and we though we were good?
October 14th, 2018 at 11:41 pm
Hey 74,
KC has had to score 30+ in every week but one and NE has won their games by outscoring their opponents in all but one win. You better think before you speak and know the facts. Stop acting like all of the Bucs problems disappear if only the D was better. 10 points against the Bears and two bad pics this week aren’t going to cut it. This was a TEAM Loss.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:41 pm
New England needed 41 to beat Kansas City
And they scored 43, won the game and hit the showers
October 14th, 2018 at 11:43 pm
@Jimmy
cause it’s the humane thing to do ..I guess lol
not that we should expect much when he had 2 weeks to prepare for Atl
October 14th, 2018 at 11:43 pm
Dirk is the only coach in the league that gets judged on only half of his football team. I do not understand why Dirk gets this luxary that 31 other HCs do not get.
It’s kinda pathetic really.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:44 pm
The Saints lost to the Bucs 48-40, and they haven’t lost since. Their offense is averaging 36 points a game.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:46 pm
The Saints figured it out real quick. Instead of moaning about their pathetic defense. Just go out and out score the other team.
It works every time
October 14th, 2018 at 11:46 pm
JimmyJack Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:40 pm
Remember when we were 2-0 and we though we were good?
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Yeah when we were putting up 48 points to win with A MIKE SMITH DEFENSE
October 14th, 2018 at 11:46 pm
1987…this is the longest message board good bye forever that I’ve seen. Well done. Bye bye
October 14th, 2018 at 11:47 pm
This site has extreme communist-type filtering.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:47 pm
Buc1987
Figure out the rules and exploit them SLIME
October 14th, 2018 at 11:49 pm
LakeLand Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:46 pm
The Saints figured it out real quick. Instead of moaning about their pathetic defense. Just go out and out score the other team.
It works every time
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And how many Super Bowls have they won?? 😂😂😂
October 14th, 2018 at 11:50 pm
They’re in 1st place in the NFC South
October 14th, 2018 at 11:51 pm
1987
Hahaha that didn’t get censored did it? 😂😂
October 14th, 2018 at 11:51 pm
Lakeland if you give Drew Brees the ball with 1 minute left to win the game it’s not going to matter if his team has scored 40 points or 10 points. they are going to be prepared to take the ball down the field. this will be something that they worked on over and over again and practice and they will know exactly what to do. no matter what one thing I can guarantee is Drew Brees is not going to run out of time in a 1-minute drill.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:51 pm
LakeLand Says:
October 14th, 2018 at 11:50 pm
They’re in 1st place in the NFC South
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Yeah but how many Super Bowls have they won? 😂😂🤣
October 14th, 2018 at 11:52 pm
Bucs fan #7423 …been here since 2013 and the JoeBucsfan filters have changed.
I wish I knew how they still worked….
October 14th, 2018 at 11:54 pm
1987
I just stay away from profanity and personal insults, that works for me
October 14th, 2018 at 11:54 pm
When you are competing in sports, you try to score points everytime you have the ball. That’s in all sports.
The team/player with the most points win
October 14th, 2018 at 11:54 pm
For the record last year vs Atlanta we had a chance to win the game and we ran out of time in a one minute offense.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:55 pm
Go back and see how many of JWs completions were to stationary players. He’s a baseball pitcher. Not good enough at throwing in stride to moving targets. Just watch. Fitz should still be playing. Trade JW, draft another QB and move on.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:56 pm
DB55 –
Yes I do realize that and I personally don’t have a problem with a quarterback throwing interceptions.
Jameis took the right sacks today and ate the ball when he needed to. There is growth but my reality for him is he’s never going to be a accurate passer and his deep ball will never threaten safeties.
Think twice about tying up $28M to this kind of QB and you can’t trust him off the field.
I always provide a unbiased view because his 4 year performance warrants questions. He’s not trash. But he not mid or upper tier.
He wasn’t the reason we loss, it was the whole team!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:56 pm
1987…..maybe your filtered because most of your posting isn’t about the Bucs.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:56 pm
Effing A.
October 14th, 2018 at 11:57 pm
1987,
Chill brother, it might not be the filters some times it’s proxies and other technology issues with the hosting site. Ease up tiger!
October 14th, 2018 at 11:58 pm
Winston throws 4 touchdowns and you haters still ain’t satisfied? Hahhahaha
Fire Mike Smith
October 14th, 2018 at 11:59 pm
My daughter is dead but if she were alive it wouldn’t bother me because I’m from Haiti living here now as a citizen of the US. You sir are a mean hateful, spiteful person who automatically use race to shame someone you don’t agree with. That was a racist comment
October 14th, 2018 at 11:59 pm
All of my posts don’t go through. I had one to disappear around the same time as Buc1987 post
October 15th, 2018 at 12:03 am
I don’t think you can trade Winston with that cap hit. Too much money. Plus who would want him, and be honest. I only see one team that may be interested; Buffalo. Other than that, nobody would want him as a starter and he makes way too much to be a backup.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:07 am
JimmyJack Says:
“1987…..maybe your filtered because most of your posting isn’t about the Bucs.”
I’m going to run with that, as long as you can tell me what’s not buc-related in my posts…you can’t cause you can’t read them.
It’s okay…I’m the least conspiracy-type person you’ll ever meet.
JimmyJack…did I NOT say since 2013? That’s five years of posting.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:07 am
Winston plays one game and you start talking trade. Kinda kneejerk wouldn’t ya say?
October 15th, 2018 at 12:09 am
LakeLand…so it’s NOT a conspiracy?
Dayum Joes a drinking man can get frustrated.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:09 am
1987….Right there. You just did it. Now I’m doing it to.
Humor me and type something about the team and see if it gets deleted.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:12 am
Winston needs a veteran team with a hard as nails coach. …like Belicheat or Reid, or River Ron. They have a knack of untapping talent
October 15th, 2018 at 12:16 am
Yes Trench it really seems like Wintson has more ability that simply hasn’t been coached into his game.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:16 am
Troy Says :
“I don’t think you can trade Winston with that cap hit. Too much money. Plus who would want him, and be honest. I only see one team that may be interested; Buffalo. Other than that, nobody would want him as a starter and he makes way too much to be a backup.”
Ya see. Troy….really who would want Jameis anyways?
Do you fans SEE or READ what I’m talking about? This who SOME of you fans are…the Troy’s of the world…..who would want Jameis anyways? GEE I don’t know Troy I can think of TEN teams right off the bat!
October 15th, 2018 at 12:22 am
The team is losing and somebody is blaming the QB? Welcome to football.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:24 am
Trench…that’s why I want the poor kid to leave Tampa.
It’s too small market for a Jameis Winston.
I LOVE the BUCS!
Lovee to the extreme.
I want them to WIN and win BIG.
Jameis will win big…but I see sooooo many Bucs fans trash the kid, that MY fandom of this team…. just gives up on THEM as fans…. and says the hell with it all and them. Let Jameis go!
October 15th, 2018 at 12:25 am
Have we made a TO is the last month? I don’t think so.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:26 am
Buc1987
Why are you using bold lettering like the administrator would use? Is this your way of shaming people my friend? you’re shouting with false authority. Maybe this is why you get moderated? just a thought
October 15th, 2018 at 12:30 am
I’m going to bed. Let’s hope Jameis can outscore Cleveland next game.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:32 am
Sweet dreams
October 15th, 2018 at 12:34 am
JimmyJack …having a polarizing QB that you support 1000%….. despite all his off the field BS….is nearly tougher than being a Bucs a fan from 1986 through today.
Jameis (sometimes) makes it tough, but I won’t waiver.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:41 am
Yeah well 1987 I say let all the off field BS surrounding Winston be in the past.
All that stuff has and will fade away.
But now we need the play on the field to do the talking and I don’t seeing that ever happening with this guy as our HC…..who was specifically hired to devolope Winston.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:41 am
lol shouting words?
Not me…..italic words are tricky for me. So I type in caps on some words…to emphasize the word….
This site knows me dayum it!
Joe I don’t play around when it comes to this small market team.
My Bucs!
October 15th, 2018 at 12:44 am
This coaching staff has basically failed with every single position group on the team. Except for WRs and maybe Punter.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:46 am
The number of individual players on this team that you can look at and say that they cost us three points today is astounding.
Again, this team was not ready to play today.
I’m to the point where I am taking it personally.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:46 am
JimmyJack….. Develop Winston?
Into what?
So where are we at then?
Okay good night.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:49 am
Really dude? You think Winston has gotten much better since he’s gotten into the league?
What? He’s a bit more accurate now? That’s it. Where else has he improved?
October 15th, 2018 at 12:51 am
So sorry if you don’t agree but I still see Winston as a QB who has a lot of room for improvement……. Primarily in the decision making department.
October 15th, 2018 at 12:52 am
“I’m to the point where I am taking it personally.”
Small market team Jimmy. Just be a fan or walk away like I nearly did in 95 after only 8 years of being a fan…..nearly…but I held on to see the team raise that silly trophy. It made me cry and still doles when I watch the DVD.
Life.
Live it.
Be a Bucs and live it…..
October 15th, 2018 at 12:53 am
Bucs fan…good night!
October 15th, 2018 at 12:57 am
Sweet dreams Bucs fans
October 15th, 2018 at 1:16 am
It’s sad to see all of these really uninformed posts–I expect that from fans, but Joe? You guys realize the Bucs LEAD THE NFL in passing yardage right? This post is about a receiver and a quarterback finding their rhythm within a special offense. If you’re seeing anything more here, then that’s on you. –Joe
If you are placing the blame on Jameis again, consider yourself football illiterate. The Bucs HAVE ZERO DEFENSE–yes, EASILY the last place defense in the league.
You guys are just pretty much hopeless. No, Jameis Winston is not a perfect QB, but he is already one of the Top 10-15 QBs in the league. He led the NFL in passing in his first start of 2018–not too shabby, huh?
The blame goes 1000000% on Mike Smith. If you still can’t see this, then please get rid of Jameis and let the man go play for Superbowls on a real team.
October 15th, 2018 at 1:30 am
We are a fan base divided.
October 15th, 2018 at 1:32 am
Fan base divided.
October 15th, 2018 at 1:45 am
I’m thankful we have Jameis and he is he sole reason I still watch this team. I’m afraid people will run him out of here and I’m worried this defense will never give him a shot. It’s just mind boggling to me how this defense with so much talent plays so inept. Why does this curse keep happening to us Bucs fans? Smitty has to walk the plank! I’m done with him. He can’t even come out of the booth to try and change things up. I’m a lost Bucs fan and season ticket holder since 2013. Can someone give me a sign of hope?
October 15th, 2018 at 6:38 am
Both of those passes were perfectly where they were supposed to be and both of those routes….more so the first one on the left side of the field than the second one on the right side should have been defensive penalties where the route was disrupted. On both of those plays had djax been running in touched it would have landed right in his arms.
All in all it was a bad team and I want to know who.is calling plays because the playcalling has not looked the same since week 2 and they haven’t shown Monken with the headset on up in the booth since then either
October 15th, 2018 at 6:42 am
I’m convince the defense issues has to do with scheme and coaching. So, I’m really moving on from getting upset with their performance.
On the other hand, I was hoping to see the Winston we saw in the preseason. He was hitting deep balls then. I’m to the point that not seeing Winston take advantage of our speed with DJax will equal disaster. BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Great offensive numbers in a loss = HIGH draft pick is coming our way. Even with a balance offense not having a deep ball DJax connection got us a loss. We need more than 35 points to win a game.
After our first to game Cleveland looked like a definite win….now? who knows.
Baker Mayfield > Mitchell Trubisky .
We don’t deserve to have doubt about the outcome of next weeks game. SMH
October 15th, 2018 at 6:56 am
Here’s a thought; one is a future Hall of Famer, the other a loser. Jettison Jameis the loser and go back to another QB already with a jersey in the HOF. Fitz has shown he can get the deep ball to DJax.
Since we already know the D sucks like a Hoover, go with the QB who can generate points.
October 15th, 2018 at 7:06 am
His timing with DJax is a concern. He looked a little “off” with Evans too. We still moved the ball fairly well. I’d like him to make better decisions down field though.
We’re going to have to straight up outscore opponents if we want to win games, that’s just all to it! Any defense, ANY in the first half and we’re talking differently about this game.
October 15th, 2018 at 7:26 am
BS. He was interfered with past 5 yards on the first pick. Not on Jameis.
And then on the deep ball that should have been a touchdown, he absolutely 100% could have layed out and caught that ball with ease for a score and just flat out didn’t. Watch the replay, he even begins the motion of diving and changes his mind half way through.
This issue is on Desean as well.
Also, Hump could have hurdled or dove into the endzone on that 51 yard catch and run, then we score on that drive instead of coming away with a pick, even though Godwin was clearly being interfered with on that play. Like egregiously being interfered with at that. He was practically being tackled and the defender never turned their head for the ball, 99 times out of 100 that’s called for PI.
October 15th, 2018 at 7:49 am
Seems to me there is an old man sitting on the bench that has no problem hitting Jackson. Of course, the old man anticipates where Jackson will be when he lets the ball fly and all Jackson has to do is haul it in and head home. JW does not understand the concept.
October 15th, 2018 at 7:49 am
Is Winston going to the Pro Bowl this year? Just wondering…
October 15th, 2018 at 8:03 am
I told every one on this site. That if Winston throw 4 td and 400 yards we lose it will still be his fault. So it really don’t matter how good Jamies play if the bucs lose they will find away to talk bad about him. I hope they trade him. This fan base sucks some of the people on this site just want a white quarterback and that’s truth . Some have said Andrew Luck is better than Winston but he threw 4 td and 3 picks but watch the national media say about Luck . So I’m done with this debate i know the real reason and y’all do to .
October 15th, 2018 at 11:57 am
JimmyJack
point taken
coaching staff had sufficient information to reliably predict this kind of result consistently from Winston — they made their own bed
Let’s see how many consecutive losses will pile up now
3 months out from another reboot