Koetter Calls Another W For The Defense; Lauds “Real” Pass Rush
August 4th, 2018
Part-time zebra
At this rate, the Tampa Bay defense is going to run out of fingers to eat.
Joe asked Dirk Koetter today for his percentage split on which side of the football won this morning’s practice. Yesterday, Koetter handed it to the defense in a big way, saying it was a 10-90 split in their favor.
Things weren’t as clear this time around, made fuzzier by Koetter himself playing referee.
“60-40 defense today. Offense was a little better today in some periods,” Koetter said. “But the pass rush, you know it’s hard here because I’m left to determine what’s a sack and what’s not. And all the defensive guys think every play’s a sack, and all the offensive guys think there’s never a sack. And it’s hard to tell because it’s not real football yet. But I can tell you, from standing right behind them, that pass rush is real.”
It was great to hear Koetter’s emphasis on “real,” when he lauded the pass rush. Joe suspects whatever Koetter experienced in previous Bucs training camps was something less.
Joe has to acknowledge that the Bucs defense has more energy and passion than the offense right now through 10 days of camp, in addition to their execution.
August 4th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
“that pass rush is real”
Please be true. Pretty please. I’ll go so far as the whole sugar and cherry on top thing if it would help…
August 4th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
I think we will have the best D-Line in the NFC South this season if they stay healthy. We will know how they are the first 3 weeks against 3 of the top 10 teams in the league.
August 4th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Joe suspects whatever Koetter experienced in previous Bucs training camps was something less.
How? I swore on hard knocks the he said he had a “great defense now” and ” best team ever”
And he trusted DM……
August 4th, 2018 at 1:01 pm
Hey Jason it took u 5 years to figure out that u needed to get linemen
Better late then never i suppose
August 4th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
“kobe is thinking that Fitz is finished. Those downfield throws look pathetic. Behind, in traffic and never looking off throws. Fitz can throw the short west coast stuff but his downfield attempts are interceptions waiting….
“Kobe sees Fitz meltdown in the first 3 games. Klueless better call alot of rb screens to barber to loosen the outside passing game because i dont see Fitz throwing downfield in those tight windows”
Kobe Faker
August 4th, 2018 at 1:09 pm
The process continues. Go Bucs!
August 4th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
This team goes as far as the defense will take it. Hands down. The offense is gonna get between the 20’s effortlessly. Run game, defense and red zone decides the season. I know Jameis can be elite with time to throw and even a running game that isn’t the leagues worst. Combine a top 10-15 defense and we go 9-7 or better
August 4th, 2018 at 1:12 pm
What Pick said. Please! Please! Pretty Please!
A Great pass rush makes even an average secondary look spectacular
August 4th, 2018 at 1:13 pm
Could be that our Oline is just that bad…..or this dline is the next coming of the fearsome foursome
August 4th, 2018 at 1:13 pm
Hey Johnny, I will take a Chris Godwin Jersey. Large!
August 4th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
Hey Joe
Isn’t today the Stick people fest? Any report?
August 4th, 2018 at 1:19 pm
SB
Excellent jersey choice.
August 4th, 2018 at 1:24 pm
“At this rate, the Tampa Bay defense is going to run out of fingers to eat.”
Is it wrong that i really hope JPP does the “eating W’s” celebration at some point this season?
August 4th, 2018 at 1:28 pm
Anyone know who that old guy was in the golf hat talking to the d line was?
August 4th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
@ Dooshlarue
Thank you Sir. I really think this kid is gonna be special. How he lasted til the third round is astounding. 31 GMs dropped the ball on that one. 🙂
August 4th, 2018 at 1:34 pm
We’ll see what’s up in two weeks when we face Derrick Henry and Mariota.
August 4th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
Theres a lot of maybes here. Maybe the Dline is better. Maybe the OLine is worse. Maybe both are worse/better. Ill wait til I see them in some real actioni. 5 more days til we get a real peek.
August 4th, 2018 at 1:40 pm
@ sb
When we drafted godwin, i was on this very board saying we got a steal. I have said it many times he is anquan boldin. Many b!+c# and moaned about why we didnt draft a running back etc. Godwin is a beast in the making
August 4th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Godwin and OJ seem great to me…
Just gonna have to get a coaching staff that knows how to use them.
Just my opinion but America’s HC is in way over his head. And Smitty, well don’t get me started.
August 4th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Yeah who was the older guy with the blue shirt and white titliest golf hat on the field today. He was on a bunch of Bucs websites pictures. I wish they caption those pictures. Most the time you can’t see jersey numbers.
I wish they’d caption or mic the questions at the pressers too.
August 4th, 2018 at 2:08 pm
Webster- Anyone following the draft closely knew Godwin was gonna be targeted by the Bucs the only surprise was when it didn’t happen in the 2nd and they gambled that he’d still be there in the 3rd.
I steal indeed.
August 4th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Tyler- that guy in the golf hat is Tom Pratt. He was a DL coach under Sam Wyche here and coached KC Chiefs in Super Bowl 1. Info found on Buccaneers insider.
August 4th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Tyler
He was a coach on one of the teams that were in Super Bowl #1.
August 4th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Or it could have been Jimmie Giles there were two VIPS at practice today!
August 4th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
@HC Dirk Koetter … “But I can tell you, from standing right behind them, that pass rush is real.” Never thought I’d hear a Bucs’ HC ever say that again once Warren Sapp & a few other DLinemen left. Music to my ears!
I keep looking at the Jaguars’ huge turnaround last year & keep thinking ‘Why not us?’ Jags had a nice corps of young defensive players in 2016, but they still went 3-13 … defense ranked 6th in YARDS ALLOWED (5,147 yds given up), but ranked 25th in POINTS ALLOWED (400 pts given up). Of course I know that Joe would’ve touted them as being the 6th best defense in the NFL in 2016, but reality was … they stunk when it REALLY counted (as in ‘at the goal line’). Their offense stunk too … ranked #23 in YARDS GAINED (5,359 yds gained) and #25 in POINTS SCORED (318 pts on the season).
But in that off-season after 2016 the Jaguars management focused on fixing their weaknesses. First they brought in Tom Coughlin to run the front office& he kept Doug Marrone on as the HC (had been interim). Via free agency & trades, they added Calais Campbell & Marcell Dareus to the DLine, as well as AJ Bouye at corner & Barry Church at safety. Improved the offense mostly in the draft by adding Leonard Fournette at RB & Cam Robinson at OT.
IMO the Jags improvement in 2017 was awesome … on BOTH sides of the ball. Defense improved to #2 in POINTS ALLOWED (down to 268 allowed from the previous year’s 400 pts allowed) … that’s OVER 8 LESS pts allowed per game in just 1 year (and for Joe, they also ranked #2 in YARDS ALLOWED with 4,578). And on offense they also improved big-time, improving to #5 ranking in POINTS SCORED (417 pts scored as compared to only 318 in 2016) by creating an identity of ‘run the ball down your opponents’ throat’ …. as in #1 ranked rushing team (their offense was 50% run; 50% pass BTW).
Defense led the charge, with the same DC & the same 4-3 defense BTW. They just had MUCH better personnel & they ran the 4-3 MUCH better (relatively few injuries too BTW). Blitzed the least of any team last year, BECAUSE … their DLine got it done. Their starting LBs got 4.5 sacks total; their starting Secondary got 1.5 sacks TOTAL. Terrible? Not really … the LBs & Secondary ‘stayed home’ and got 21 INTs.
Don’t personally think the Bucs’ defensive improvement will be THAT dramatic (Jags’ secondary is quite a bit better than ours right now IMO. But I do think our defense will improve considerably (I’d be happy with 3 less pts/game on average). It can be done; we just need to turn the Big Dogs loose. No excuses.
August 4th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
@webster: we can have Jerry Rice & Antonio Brown on the team and it would not matter if we don’t have a QB to throw the ball, in which we do not.
August 4th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
@ stanglassman
Go back and look at this board after the bucs drafted godwin. He was not a popular pick here. The bucs did not gamble in the 2nd round because they had evans rated higher so they did not gamble. Godwin slipping was a blessing for the bucs but trust me many blasted the pick because we did not draft defense or a running back
August 4th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Who’s calling plays right now? Derp? Or Monkin? Anybody have an idea?
August 4th, 2018 at 5:11 pm
No doubt Webster. All I was saying was people who follow the draft closely, like you and I, were both expecting and happy he was the pick.
August 4th, 2018 at 7:58 pm
Who won? Who lost? Who knows? Training camp where you can’t actually get to the QB, meh. We’ll know a little more next week.
#Get After It!
August 4th, 2018 at 10:16 pm
How far off have the corners been playing? If it’s 5 yards or less I’m happy. If its 10 to 12 then what in the actual F#@!?!!!!!!!!!
August 5th, 2018 at 12:40 am
Get a red zone offense… NOW
August 5th, 2018 at 4:56 am
Bucemup,
There’s nothing wrong with playing back to 12yrs.
But there’s something very wrong with playing back 12yrs and getting torched deep.
It’s not the depth……..it’s the results.
August 5th, 2018 at 7:39 am
Totally disagree D1. When its 3rd and 5 and your sitting 12 yards back, thats a real problem. Unfortunately that happened over and over last year.
August 5th, 2018 at 9:14 am
Defense Rules: Absolutely phenomenal post!
August 5th, 2018 at 10:08 am
Defense Rules
Todd wash > Mike Smith
August 5th, 2018 at 12:00 pm
Dreambig,
If it’s 3rd and 5 and the DB’ s are 12yrs off…..it’s not the depth it’s the coverage that is a problem.
But if you think 3-5 and the DB is off 12 is the real problem. Then I suggest you do the math. The math is a way to prove that the alignment, is not the single most important thing to adjust. I am quite serious about the math. If you don’t know what or how to do it, just ask.
If you’re not confident that the problem is elsewhere, coach, technique, scheme, player than you’re looking for simple and sometimes the solution is not simple.note firing Smith is a simple solution and more effective.