Saturday Training Camp Notes, News & Nuggets

July 28th, 2018

Rookie Ronald Jones after Saturday’s practice and an extra special teams session on his own time.

The summer broil was on at One Buc Palace, as Day 3 of training was held under full sun before about 1,000 fans on a military appreciation day. 

Joe was very busy digging out your need-to-know:

*Bucs are not in full pads. Ignore the picture above. Today, Day 3 of camp, was just the upper body shells, the step between underwear football and full pads, which come out tomorrow.

*In 11-on-11 work, O.J. Howard can’t hang on after a crossing route. It’s the type of heavy-traffic catch we’re used to seeing Cameron Brate make.

*Adarius Taylor, the artist formerly known as Adarius Glanton, is the starting strongside linebacker. Dirk Koetter praises his development and versatility after practice. (See Joe’s encouraging home-page story on injured Kendall Beckwith).

*Bucs go four-wide and Ryan Fitzpatrick seems confused and appears to change the play. Then he’s running for his life.

*Second-team cornerbacks come in and they are rookie Carlton Davis and Josh Liddell, a rookie who is listed as a safety.

*America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, enters and he does little. It’s a run play, followed by what looked like a shovel pass, and then a checkdown before a screen-looking toss to Charles Sims.

*First unit returns and rookie M.J. Stewart is playing nickel. Fitzpatrick steps up and fires a quick out to Brate. Complete!

*DROP! A bad one by undrafted rookie RB Shaun Wilson from Ryan Griffin.

*Nice, nice touch. Griffin to undrafted rookie Sergio Bailey, about 20 yards to the right.

*Field goal kicking time!!!! Oh, boy. Big money free agent kicker Chandler Catanzaro misses his warmup shot from 30 yards. No. 2 kicker Trevor Moore hit his from 35, but was downhill from there for the rookie. When the 11-on-11 practice session started, Catanzaro was 4-for-4 between 35 and 45 yards, but Moore missed three in a row after hitting his first two. After the second miss from about 40 yards, Dirk Koetter barked, “C’mon Five!” to Moore, who wears No. 5. Then Moore missed his third in a row.

*7-on-7 fires up and Jameis is sharp, really sharp. He hits DeSean Jackson on a crossing route, followed by a gorgeous toe-tap catch by Mike Evans with Ryan Smith all over him about 15 yards along the left sideline. Great touch throw. Evans gets his swag on and flips the ball at Smith who was claiming Evans was out of bounds. Jameis follows up with a laser to Brate and then O.J. Howard is found wide open for 20 yards, a complete rope of a pass to O.J. Howard over the middle for a big gain. Man, that pass was a laser. Jameis still has that ninth-inning 95 mph fastball. … Jameis then connected with Jacquizz Rodgers with Kwon Alexander with tight coverage.

*It’s Griffin’s turn in 7-on-7 and he connect short to Rodgers before throwing behind Berhard Reedy incomplete. Javien Elliot then breaks up a Griffin pass to Howard.

*Fitzpatrick gets his turn and hits Mike Evans along the right sideline for possibly an eight-yard gain. Evans may have gotten away with a pushoff on Josh Robinson but Evans catches the ball and just gets his feet inbounds. Classic Evans and those wonderful feet of his.

*DROP! Bailey from Jameis, followed by an under throw and an overthrow by Jameis. Unfamiliar receivers seem to be an issue from Jameis.

*Way cool look by Brent Grimes. He was wearing creamsicle shoes today. That’s slick! (Not sick, slick!)

*A play or two later after a catch up field for a good gain, Joe noticed Howard walking down the same sideline returning to where his offensive teammates stood walking very slowly with a slight limp, with his helmet off and holding his left hip/lower back with his left hand. Not sure if this was serious or what the injury is/was. May have been pretty minor. Howard is a guy that is always hustling so for him to just walk slow with his helmet off, may have been a sign he has a minor twinge of some sort.

*Scrambling Jameis, nothing open in 7-on-7.

* Camp meat wide receiver, lovable Bernard Reedy, cuts the wrong way on a short pass route (he did a facepalm just after the play so that’s a good giveaway he screwed up) and rookie Marko Myers dropped what should have been a sure pick.

*Rookie Carlton Davis, who hasn’t flashed, is seen with the third team.

*Back to 11-on-11, more good coverage from Ryan Smith on Evans.

*Lavonte David flashes his speed and would have lit up O.J. Howard on a short, slow-developing play.

* Leonard Wester getting a lot of first-team work at right tackle with Demar Dotson sitting out 11-on-11 stuff.

*Wide receiver screen, Fitzpatrick to Reedy. See video below:

*Jameis and the camp meat crew get a series against the first-team defense. It’s really not pretty. Very up and down day for Jameis. At one point in that series, Jameis was flushed left by McCoy in the backfield and while falling threw a classic senseless prayer of a throw, the kind Jameis is too well known for. Fans behind Joe were moaning and wondering whether Jameis will ever learn. Ball landed incomplete. … “Sack” called for McCoy a couple of plays later. Of course, there is no hitting allowed.

*One hand grab (it appeared) in tight quarters by Brate from Jameis with Steward all over Brate.

*Very interesting after practice, rookie receiver Ronald Jones joins a six-player circle led by special teams coach Nate Kaczor. There’s a lot of coaching going on and twice Kaczor says to Jones, “Ronald, you understand that?” Joe had a Snoop Dog McPlaybook flashback.

*See Joe’s home-page story on DeSean Jackson working with rookie WR Justin Watson.

*Among the last three Buccaneers off the field, Jameis, signing autographs for retired military guests. Jameis was getting a lot of vocal “we got your back” support from many fans.

40 Responses to “Saturday Training Camp Notes, News & Nuggets”

  1. Buc1987 Says:

    “Jameis was getting a lot of vocal “we got your back” support from many fans.”

    Uh oh Pete and Walter.

    Shame on them….

    GREAT work as usual Joe.

  2. jmarkbuc Says:

    Jameis was flushed left by McCoy in the backfield and while falling threw a classic senseless prayer of a throw, the kind Jameis is too well known for

    The more things change, the more they stay the same….

  3. BigMacAttack Says:

    Maybe Gerald should pop Jameis a time or two to let him know there’s consequences to your actions. Knock him on his can and it might do some good.

  4. NonyaDamnBucsiness Says:

    Sounds like Ground Hog day. Same sloppy practices as the last several years. Is it going to be the same sloppy regular season results?

  5. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Give 199lber a sandwich! Rook is going to weigh less than DJAx!”

    “Our 2018 draft wll be known for passing on 2 10 year all pros in Derwin James and Derrius Guice for a bunch of backup MEH!”

    Kobe Faker

  6. MC Shado 31 Says:

    It was hot for sure. 2.5 hours, including standing out front for gates open, of what seemed like the hottest day of the year, even early in the morning. I wish they’d bring back the bleachers. People were only allowed on one side and one end of one field, so very hard to see anything. They never practiced indoors today either, though they opened it up about 10am to let people go in a cool off. Nice place.

    Now, about “Jameis was getting a lot of vocal “we got your back” support from many fans” I am sure JBF must have heard it or he’d not write it. However, I did not hear any of that when I was there, especially at the end for the autograph part.

    I will say what I do hear working on MacDill is Bucs fans are disgusted with him and most I hear talk about it want him phased out. However, most Bucs Fans per se on MacDill are retired military working in government civilian or contractor jobs–the active military mostly from somewhere else on an assignment here in Tampa (though there are some who are, especially reservists who live here long term). I listened to two guys on Friday morning in the office (both went to the practice today) talk about Winton’s press conference and “same old BS story” about Winston wanting to get getting better, being a better leader, in the community, etc etc yada yada yada, and one mentioned he wanted to puke when he heard that. But happily, Winston didn’t get boo’d today, nor would he.

    Most fellow veterans I talk to feel the way JBF mentioned he his friend did…not supporting Winston being around any more at all.

    Shado 31, out.

  7. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    So many new players along with a fantastically developed defensive backfield….this team has a different feel to it…..

  8. MC Shado 31 Says:

    Hat’s off to whoever did the music selection today; and it seemed like it was not blaring so much today that NO ONE (including players) could hear the coaches. That was one of the main things I noticed in practices I went to last year. Heckuva portable sound system though.

    Shado 31, out.

  9. Mike in LOL Says:

    Great nuggets Joe!

    Hey when are we getting Rock Riley back?? I love his short video takes and figured he’d be at training camp or no?

  10. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Catanzaro should be competing against Patrick Murray, not Moore. Murray at least earned a chance to compete for the kicker spot, considering he saved us from Folk. At least Catanzaro is looking good.

    As to James, he seems fine with the starters. Not fine with third stringers. It will be good for them to get experience with Jameis.

    Unlike the trolls who pick out the bad stuff, I try to see the positives. And that little pass Jameis tried that he shouldn’t have, don’t ever expect that to change. Gunslinging QBs are always high-risk-high-reward passers. It’s in their natures.

    Spend a life whining about it, or accept it and move on.

  11. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Oh, and, Joe, I thought Ronald Jones was a RB? 😉

  12. Buchead5588 Says:

    I’ve been saying Jameis is fine just throwing to players he’s not familiar with when with 1st team sounds like he was amazing great I hope Jones An Stewart or Davis start standing out soon sounds like Stewart is leading that pack so far Grwat GoBUCS

  13. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    MC Shado 31
    “about Winston wanting to get getting better, being a better leader, in the community”

    He actually is very, very active in the community. That’s what national media covers up.

  14. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    As to the rookies, of course they look bad. It’s only the beginning of their first training camp.

  15. MC Shado 31 Says:

    Bonzai, Yeah, I know he is active in the community. Always has been since getting here. But it seems like it’s all a ruse to me. It’s what he does when no one is looking–when he perhaps thinks no one is looking. I think he knows how he is supposed to behave, on and off the field. But he just does what he wants to do. On and off the field. That’s his biggest problem I think. Too often, his decision making is terrible. On and off the field. Can’t attribute that to age. He does things 6 year olds know NEVER to do.

  16. MC Shado 31 Says:

    On a lighter note, I agree, rookies do of course look bad. I was impressed though that they even have it down what drill is what, what to do with sequence of drills per the air horn. They’ll get it soon enough. Alex Cappa…definitely and stand out with his size and hair…I hope he gets on it quickly.

  17. BuccaneerScotty Says:

    Winston looks like crap again and here come the excuses as always

  18. fritz50 Says:

    Thinking you need to edit out any mention of a failed play by anyone, would want anyone going nuts that they aren’t perfect on the 3rd practice.

  19. fritz50 Says:

    Wouldn’t….stoooopid phone

  20. OneBuc55 Says:

    Bonzai, you so right…

    The National media hardly ever mentions any of the positive things he does off the field; which are plenty…Yet the one negative thing he did since being in Tampa has been reported by 100 different media heads in 100 different ways…

    At this point, Winston has to accept the fact that he’s like the heel in wrestling…No matter how his numbers improve and wins he piles up his haters will always be there waiting to find the negative…

    Jameis just needs to continue to keep his nose clean off the field and continue to get better every year on the field and he’ll be fine…If the Bucs can get some consistency from the defense, kicking game, and running game maybe Winston can eat enough W’s to get us to the playoffs…Go Bucs!

    Lets Go JW, let the haters hate…Don’t cry over spilled milk, pour yourself another cup and keep it moving…

  21. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Thanks Joe for the great report today! Go Bucs!!!!

  22. destinjohnny Says:

    Again 3 isn’t a bust, but true to form he is inconsistent.

  23. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    For Jameis to the LOUD haters…I LOVE me some JABOO!



  24. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    *all the people he helped after the hurricane🤫

  25. Buc1987 Says:

    Going to any preseason games?

    Look around for WOMEN wearing Jameis Winston jersey’s for me…..then get back to us on JBF if you can. Let all the girls that post on here daily have a go at the count. WOMEN!!!!!!! Count the women!

  26. OneBuc55 Says:

    @87, stop it bro…

    Can all 2 of the women if that, who post on this site daily please let yourself be know…smh…

  27. OneBuc55 Says:


  28. jmarkbuc Says:

    MC Shado

    Thanks for the insight.

  29. AZBucsFan4Lyfe Says:

    This is a joke…..He threw one bad pass in preseason. And thats all the Harpies jump on. Here is what you really need to do. Go look at his passes. Then look at the two Ryans passes.
    Only then will you understand, why they are backups.

  30. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    Woman for Jameis!

  31. Onetrickpony Says:

    Nole4JabooANDdBucs says :women for Jameis

    Say what, where?

  32. MC Shado 31 Says:

    Did not see a single femaie wearing a #3 shirt yesterday at practice. I did one female wearing a #5 FSU jerzey…reminded me that we have the problem FSU had then….on and off the field.

  33. MC Shado 31 Says:

    What kind of media outlet calls Winston “America’s QB” after all this stuff he’s put on this community? How he’s treated women over what is clearly a pattern? How he lies and deceives his peers? If this loser’s team does have his back, they all deserve to lose every game. If the coaches let this cat be team captain and if the owners keep him on, they deserve to lose every fan. Happily, they WILL show Winston the door within the year. Business is business. Done with this site though. Losers for Winston. This is the HuffPost of local sports. Only worse. Joe’s nickname for Jameis began in November 2014, long before the Bucs had the No. 1 overall pick locked up and drafted him. Sorry, Joe isn’t dropping the nickname because some people don’t like it. This site would be very weak if Joe cared about upsetting sensitive fans. And the nickname began because Jameis was such a polarizing figure across the country. Still is. –Joe

  34. OneBuc55 Says:

    Mc Shado, you’re missing it man…

    Joe calls Jameis “America’s QB” because he seems to be the most popular QB for media heads across America to talk about…If you want your story to get a massive amount of clicks on the Internet just add Jameis Winston’s name in the story line… One of the great myths of our time, that Jameis is good for “clicks.”–Joe

    It’s to the point that they have painted him as some serial rap!st who’s on a rampage assaulting dozens of women…when in reality, it’s 1 rape allegation at FSU involving 1 woman who unfortunately for her changed her story and the drunken groping incident with the 1 Uber driver…

    Not justifying any wrong doing but its professonal athletes and regular joes I general across the country that have done far worst, and would make JW look like a chior boy; but it’s not a big story because they’re not high profile College/NFL/Black QB’s…Hence the term “America’s QB”….maybe you’d be satisfied if Joe called him “America’s most wanted QB”…

  35. MC Shado 31 Says:

    Thanks for the explanation on the “America’s QB” nickname. Weak sauce.

  36. johnnybuc Says:

    what’s your take aways from camp so far ? does it have any different feel from how it was last year (besides maybe the obvious jameis situation)

  37. Buc1987 Says:

    “all this stuff he’s put on this community?”

    ALL this stuff? Name the GIANT list of stuff…..

    No jersey’s huh…just like FSU? WTF are you making up now and why? Oh now I know why!

    You HATED Jameis waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before he came to the Bucs!

  38. Reach87 Says:

    Not sure the ex- military or active duty or reserve Bucs fans are congruous in thinking Winston must go and is disgusting. Most rely on facts. Fact is there is no tape of Winston saying he grabbed anything. Tapes are there, just someone else saying it. Military folks I work with are mission focused and fact driven. Fact is there is no reasonable reason to cut or trade Winston. He has not lived up to the massive expectations of the vocal moral minority, but he is a great teammate, probably the best QB we have ever had, and offers us the best chance to win. All that being said, most military people I know understand football (like the military) is a Team game. Please don’t think the majority of military think whatever he did (what exactly was that) is unforgivable and non-recoverable. It’s simply not true. Go Bucs!

  39. ChanEpic Says:

    That Shado guy really loves him some him. Wow.

  40. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Ahh ….Camp Notes. A time tresured tradition.

    As always – I appreciate the write-up men.