No Deep Threat
June 13th, 2018
Joe’s got two videos just like this one below from yesterday’s practice.
So don’t be looking for a wheel route to rookie running back Ronald Jones in the 2018 playbook.
For the limited number of spring practices Joe has been allowed to watch, it seems Jones doesn’t have great instincts as a receiver. And that’s OK. Just hand him the rock. Jones isn’t here for his hands and ability in the deep-passing game.
Yes, he’s 20 years old and Joe is not claiming Jones can’t catch.
Jameis Winston and Dirk Koetter each cited Jones’ hard work ethic yesterday, so there’s no concern whatsoever here.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:03 pm
I’m more concerned about his pass protection.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:11 pm
that’s aint ok joe…..one of our problems last year was being predictable…..if jones cant be a threat out of the backfield, we become more predictable….
barbers in the game, run between the tackles…..
sims is in the game, pass play…..
jones in the game, run to the outside…..
crazy thing is, at redskins camp, they’ve been gushing over guices hands and are very impressed…..guice was my #1 RB followed by jones…..hope he gets his hands up to par…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
June 13th, 2018 at 12:13 pm
The work ethic is all that matters for rookies. It has the be the number one reason players bust and the single biggest factor why an undrafted guy with less talent makes a team.
With high work ethic we can also expect to see improvements made in weak areas like pass catching and blocking.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:13 pm
his comparison coming out was jamal Charles…..isn’t catching the ball JC’s weakness?…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
June 13th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
I’ll trust what you see in practice because this video doesn’t mean much. He wasn’t trying all that hard and I’ve seen a lot of great wrs have trouble with the over the shoulder bomb catch.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Thankfully, that wasn’t Jameis throwing. If it were, the ball wouldn’t be close enough to drop and Jones’ hands won’t be an issue.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Wait…. is Jones #27 or #22?
I thought he was #22.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RB’s today have to catch the ball. Not as concerned about the wheel rt but more concerned about short passes and screen passes.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:35 pm
looks to me on that particular pass the wind might have caught the ball up a little bit he slowed down a lot at the end and looked confused trying to locate the ball I know he’s a rookie but this is at least a little concerning
June 13th, 2018 at 12:41 pm
I think this guy will get it done quicker than we all think too-it’s just a mental gelling kind of deal and getting used to being out the comfort zone thing he’ll be fine
June 13th, 2018 at 12:43 pm
Future ‘Best RB in the NFL’. (Ala Jamaal Charles)
He will get better in every area…
His strengths will become stronger, as well as his weaknesses.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:45 pm
That was a ugly video. Doesn’t look a threat. Looks like Kreg Lumpkin out there.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
LOL @ the Kreg Lumpkin shade.. Man I forgot all about that guy.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:54 pm
He has decent hands on normal pass routes.
Over-the-shoulder catches are very difficult and have to be learned.
June 13th, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Agree with Erik. I’ve seen a few videos with smooth hands but seems he’s dropped the few long balls they’ve tried.
Still sucks because his speed on a wheel route is a weapon for a big play
June 13th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
That’s OK most RB’s aren’t deep threat pass catchers. As long as he can run the ball and catch a swing route or an occasional check down I’m fine with that.
June 13th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Put the ball in his hands in open space. Lets see what happens then.
June 13th, 2018 at 1:38 pm
I personally was hoping for Derrius Guice but I understand it was a hard decision with all the negativity around the draft rumors.
I will support the Bucs RB’s no matter what on opening day and wish both Peyton Barber and RJ Pro-Bowl seasons. Most importantly I hope Sean Payton is embarassed on opening day!
June 13th, 2018 at 2:31 pm
I remeber Godwin not being great in underwear football last year let the kid turn it on when it counts he can’t drop a cpl in practice I mean he is a RB not a WR jus saying
June 13th, 2018 at 3:40 pm
@Erik … “Future ‘Best RB in the NFL’. (Ala Jamaal Charles).” Can we at least wait until he plays his first real game before we anoint him as ‘Best RB in the NFL’? Used to have a coach who constantly reminded us there’s a reason they call it ‘practice’.
June 13th, 2018 at 4:14 pm
No need for him to run a wheel route. We have one of the best receiving corps in the league. Focus more on the non-existent Dirk Koetter checkdown catches and “Licht” the rocket that’s up his ass.
June 13th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
My problem is calling that pass when we are 3rd and 2…..
Now….since it’ quite obvious by a one-day look at a couple of passes that he’s a bust with the long ball…..let’s cut him now and save the reps for another RB (sarcasm) (someone may actually think I was serious)
June 13th, 2018 at 5:12 pm
“So catching the ball as a 3 down back is not important to the Tampa sheep? LOL”
“Kobe thinks the Klueless apologist Tampa sheep is thinking like their predictable Klueless leader”
Kobe Faker
2017 draft will be known for bypassing the all pro playmakers Derwin James and Derrius Guice
June 13th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Please tell me Joe that you’re not basing his deep threat ability off of that one pass. First, that pass was way late or short – and he did get his head and hands in the right place – just missed it. Now if ROJO was spinning around trying to locate the ball – then I would agree. I saw nothing wrong with his form – he just missed it – which happens – in June – as a rookie. Geez dudes.
Joe noted here that Joe has two similar videos. Guy just isn’t natural in a pass-catching role yet. No slam on him. –Joe
June 13th, 2018 at 6:26 pm
Underwear football. Guys should look better than they are–even rookies. Dude needs to catch at least some of those. I hope most of his (attempted) catches don’t look like this. What does he look like on screens? Well see.
June 13th, 2018 at 7:57 pm
Thanks Joes. Being you two are such Buc lovers (I wonder). Where’s the good video of someone making a catch? We don’t need to see what they can’t do..
Last week, Joe posted video of Vita Vea running through drills with the d-linemen, showcasing Vea’s agility. What’s your point? Lots of fans are interested in whether Jones can be a bellcow, three-down back. He’s not there yet and don’t bet on it this year, based on has pass catching ability shown to date and Joe’s knowledge of the situation. That’s no knock on the 20-year-old developing player, but it is very relevant to many Bucs fans. As for Joe being a fan, that’s just silly talk. Joe’s not only a fan, Joe’s business improves when the Bucs win, so Joe is doubly invested in the team’s success.–Joe
June 13th, 2018 at 11:09 pm
He cannow work on his craft fill time, he hasn’t been a pro very long so It’s fine if he doesn’t start and they develop him slowly
Doug Martin took like 5 years to learn catching. I remember key third down drop by him a few years ago. Rojo will be fine
June 14th, 2018 at 12:14 am
Pretty sure he’s a RB. We have atleast 6 capable receivers and 2 of those are TE’S. Why should anyone care if 27 can run a wheel route, post, or let’s go old school, a button hook… why not bring in Jamal Charles for a look, he may still be close by in New Orleans. Passed physical and looked good is what they’re saying. Why not? So don’t ask me why didn’t they sign him if he looked good, don’t know I wasn’t there….
June 14th, 2018 at 9:26 am
Licht passed on D Cook and now Guice, the RB on LB matchup is a go to play and jones cant catch? Great hope he pans out 20-25 times a game or this is another blunder by jason gump
June 15th, 2018 at 10:58 pm
So what I thought we was trying to have a running game this year? We have to stop throwing the ball all the time. We need balance at offence. Throw may be 30 to 35 times at most run the ball the rest . Philly won on defense and running game that’s how you win , it always been that way in football that will never change. We need stop trying to be like the Pats, or the Payton Manning Colts. That’s why all these teams lose including us trying to be like those teams n not just playing football like the old bucs. Running , throwing the ball 25 to 35 times n playing defense that’s the only way we will win. Go bucs…….
June 15th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
Let’s go run the ball that’s why we drafted him.
June 15th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
Run the ball