Fitz Fans Grow Louder

June 30th, 2018

New fans emerge

While America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, now plays the role of NFL villain across the nation — and among many locally — Ryan Fitzpatrick, his veteran understudy, has an exploding fan base.

First, consider Thursday’s JoeBucsFan poll: 56 percent of participants said Fitzpatrick should start ahead of an available Jameis in Week 4 if the Bucs win and Fitzpatrick plays well versus Pittsburgh on Monday Night Football.

Second, Fitzpatrick flat out has people rooting for him to play well in Jameis’ absence and keep the starting QB job indefinitely.

Former longtime Tampa Tribune sports columnist Joe Henderson, who now opines for the Tampa Bay Times and, writes that he has turned into a hardcore Fitzpatrick fan. He shutters at the thought of Jameis continuing as the face of the Bucs’ franchise.

As a sports columnist, I followed the code of never cheering in the press box, but I’ll break that vow now and say I hope Ryan Fitzpatrick, who will replace Winston during his absence, plays like Tom Bradyfor those three games and keeps the job.

This isn’t about football though. It’s about a troubled man-child with a pattern of assuming he can take whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.

You can read the full column via the link above.

Joe shared this because Henderson is indeed speaking for a growing mass of Buccaneers fans.

There are many who aren’t rooting against Jameis, but would love nothing better than to see Jameis on the bench with the team thriving its way to the postseason.

192 Responses to “Fitz Fans Grow Louder”

  1. Orlampa Turd Says:

    FSU grad and lifelong Buc fan hoping Fitzmagic starts every game this year!

  2. Cobraboy Says:

    I agree with Henderson.

    Winston has demons that cannot be exorcised.

  3. Roy T. Buford Says:

    I hope the QB on the field helps win the game, period. However, I also don’t want to be disgusted with the guy and listen to how disgusting he is all week and how disgusting the rest of the world thinks he is. So disgusting. lying, poor leader Winston should be dropped to the bottom of the depth chart and another game experienced needs to come in and fill the #2 position for the first three games, or longer. It’s kind of like, sure, I hope the Syrians squash ISIS, but that doesn’t mean I like the Syrians. In fact, they need to go. Jameis “Syrian” Winston.

  4. BucdUp Says:

    Demons that haven’t showed up for two years… A man trying to make difference in his community the past two years really sounds like a demon…

    Get a clue Bucs fans I bet this guy has made a more positive impact off the field then most of you put together

  5. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @Cobraboy…I’d bet Winston could give the demons a lesson on how to lie better.

  6. DB55 Says:

    This isn’t about football though. It’s about a troubled man-child with a pattern of assuming he can take whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.
    And here lies the problem, in order to win in the nfl you need a few players like this. They’re called alphas. And that’s why the Bucs will be and always have been losers.

  7. Bucnut2 Says:

    Guys-Joe’s main expertise seems to be lobbying for QB’s who have talent and felony traits. See Manziel and Americas TO machine! Nice work Joes. You guys are certainly smarter than the rest of us, NOT!

  8. AlteredEgo Says:

    It is still June……GET another starting caliber QB ASAP….Fitz bless his heart…will have his heart eaten alive in front of our eyes….this is not a time to be pussy foot’n around …..hope you read this Jason/G’Boyz….desperate times desperate measures….all that and …there was NO guarantee Jameis would have progressed in 2018….save the season NOW….not after the 3rd game with a nut job egomaniac with questionable football skills…..HOW F’n plain can it be !

  9. Bucnut2 Says:

    DB- you would be correct if Winston had elite talent. But he is a mediocre talent. HE is not Big Ben or Lewis, he is Andy Dalton.

  10. Bird Says:


    So are you an alpha male. Dude you better be a baller cause people can be savages and not do this nonsense.

  11. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    The most popular player on a team is the back up QB, when the starter isn’t playing well, or can’t play.
    We are loaded with offensive weapons, and Fitz has shown a real propensity for spreading the ball around.
    I hope Fitz does well, but Jameis is still our Quarterback, in my mind.

  12. Bucnut2 Says:

    Wow Joe’s. my comments don’t appear. Are you censoring some of us? If you are, its’ ok. I probably would if I were you.

  13. JimmyJack Says:

    Most of the fans think Fitz gives us no chance to beat a good team and are saying we go 0-3. Yet most of the fans wanna keep him in. Where’s the nasty buzzer sound?

  14. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jameis May have CTE

    Crotch Touching ExUBERance

  15. Bucnut2 Says:

    Joe’s I stand corrected. Thank you for having the courage to publish my remarks.

  16. DB55 Says:

    Fitz is Josh McClown with a Harvard degree.

    You dumbarses we’re making the same argument in 2014 and the Bucs ended with 2 wins and the #1 overall pick.

    On second thought, start Fitz for the season.

  17. Joe Says:

    Fitz is Josh McClown with a Harvard degree.

    Pretty much.

  18. Joe Says:

    Joe’s I stand corrected. Thank you for having the courage to publish my remarks.

    So long as you don’t commit Crimes against Joe and potentially slander/libel an employee of the Bucs or a public figure, you are safe.

  19. AlteredEgo Says:

    So long as you don’t commit Crimes against Joe and potentially slander/libel an employee of the Bucs or a public figure, you are safe.
    Finally a hint of rules….
    Joe has made many rules clear to you. –Joe

  20. Roy T. Buford Says:

    The dilemma for camp is interesting. I’m not so worried about Fitz being the starter for three games or more than I am about who will back him up or compete with him. Bring in a game-experienced QB (which they should do if they are serious about keeping the season going). Reps should be 30-30-25-15% (Fitz, New Guy, Griffin, Winston).
    Do same for preseason games 1 and 2, but use only Fitz and New Guy for game 3. Give game 4 to Griffin and flush it down with Winston. Don’t count on that guy for anything in 2018 at all. The Bucs need to think of this as two seasons. Get the QBs prepared depth-wise for Saints, Eagles, and Steelers…if Fitz or New Guy are doing well, they start Game 4 anyway…while Winston returns to practice. His reps during preseason will be wasted…once again, hurting his team.

  21. Bucnut2 Says:

    DB and Joes- go look at Fitz lifetime winning percentage versus america’s qb. Statically it’s a wash as to who plays QB for us. Great stats, he doesn’t win due TO and lack of leadership skils

  22. Bucnut2 Says:

    IF I’m Licht- I’m offering a 3rd for Foles. … I’m also interested in Bridgewater

  23. Defense Rules Says:

    @Roy … “I hope the QB on the field helps win the game, period.” Oh Roy, you started off so good, then whoosh, the toilet flushes.

    @Joe … “There are many who aren’t rooting against Jameis, but would love nothing better than to see Jameis on the bench with the team thriving its way to the postseason.” Duh, isn’t that what Bucs’ fans have always wanted? A playoff contender. So many in the media are still trying to make this season all about Jameis instead of about T-E-A-M. If Fitz gets it done and takes us to the Promised Land, what’s the problem?

    @DB55 … “Fitz is Josh McClown with a Harvard degree.” Still trying to figure out why any purported Bucs’ fan would type something like that instead of rooting for him & the Bucs, then I noticed who wrote it. Not wondering any more.

  24. Bird Says:


    This is punch drunk love joe. Chaping on mclown . Fitzpatrick

    Yah. Jameis is way better. You are a man obsessed with a guy that is just ehhhh

    Yah he moved your needle North. Shame shame shame.

  25. Pete I Says:

    America’s Choir Boy and Fitz, well Fitz doesn’t turn the ball over so systematically as America’s Choir Boy. So he has that going for him, and he has at least one more winning season under his ledger. Both basically suck on the field but in differet ways.

  26. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Fitz will be groping JW’s shoulders in week 4 when the gunslinger returns… for real you so called fans. NFL FOOTBALL IS A FREAKING BUSINESS. It’s not a mentoring program, really how many of us are Gonna bring little Johnny over TO JW’s house and hangout ever? JW,#93, Michael freaking Jordan can’t do what each & every one of us can and should Be doing at home with our kids. BUt yeah if my girls we’re ever violated in any way I’d whoop someone’s a$$… however I’m not fully convinced JW is guilty. I still say she would have dialed 911 first if he violated her in anyway…

  27. sj_bucsfan Says:

    I am just glad I cancelled my season tickets this year! I will always root for my Bucs to win but this season will be from afar. It looks like it’s gonna be ugly…

  28. AlteredEgo Says:

    AlteredEgo Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    So long as you don’t commit Crimes against Joe and potentially slander/libel an employee of the Bucs or a public figure, you are safe.
    Finally a hint of rules….
    Joe has made many rules clear to you. –Joe
    Ira’s Algebra to Joes Geometry…Obtuse….post them….I love rules

  29. DB55 Says:


    He’s never won more than 6 games in a season in his 12 yrs in the except except the win yr he played with Rex Ryan’s number 1 def.

    You people are just dumb it truly is amazing.

  30. JJ Says:

    I personally have not given up on Jameis, but its more likely that Fitz will start Week 4, But unless the team starts out 3-1 or 4-0, I don’t see Winston staying on the banch after the bye week. Fitz is not a long term solution and I have not give up on Jameis yet.

  31. BUDDY Says:

    Well said, bucd up, DB55, and CHris apple

  32. AlteredEgo Says:

    Great Christmas Picture Of Fitz….2038 throw back….or a Cough Drop label…or even a Fish Sticks label…most certainly not the QB for 2018….this is a Jim Jones death wish thinking Fitz is a season starter

  33. BUDDY Says:

    And Knoxville

  34. DB55 Says:

    Fitz has never won more than 6 games in a season in his 12 yrs in the league expect for 2015 when the jets won 10 games and still missed the playoffs. The Jets had the #9 overall def that yr.

  35. DB55 Says:

    Actually it was Todd boles #9 def. but ya still dumb.

  36. 1Gr8Buc Says:

    Call me crazy but I think the situations this young man is facing in his life right now, allegation, suspension, and the birth of his firat born will all be extremely humbling experiences for him. While dissappointed in the allegations and how he handled the situation as a person (not a fan) I hope he corrects his actions and behaviors and becomes a genuine leader on and off the field.

    There is a solid pattern of uncontrollable behavior which I think stems from a much deeper problem with him. If he is serious about his career and relationships off the field he will take any and all actions to get hia life straight. Think of Brandon Marshall, everyone thought the guy was an asshat, which he acted like. Come to find out he has a mental disorder that went undiagnosed and untreated for the majority of his career.

  37. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Any “fan” should root for FitzMagic and for Jameis when he comes back. No one should root against a player of their own team.

  38. AlteredEgo Says:

    Agree..1Gr8….however Jameis on field recovery is not as simple as running a route and catching ball…

    I want Jameis to become the QB he thinks he is…
    and the person he wants people to believe he is…

  39. JabooBuc Says:

    DB55- I think you should learn what it is to be an “alpha”. Generally it’s an earned leadership position within a group by showing the ability to be empathetic, reasonable and productive.

    You don’t earn the alpha position by being brash, stupid and unproductive. Go back and watch the “Eat some W’s speech to his team and let me know if the faces of his teammates look at all interested in following this guy.

  40. DB55 Says:

    It’s not rooting against it’s just facts. We had this same argument in 2014 McClown vs Glennon. Idiots thought McClown would give the Bucs the best chance to win, then he hit the field. 2-14 that season.

    That’s why you can’t listen to any of these Buc Fans sans a very few who have a clue.

  41. Couch Fan Says:

    These same fans will call Dirk a genius if he indeeds does something idiotic such as keeping Fitz as starter when JWs suspension is over. They will also be the first to want Dirk fired once we finish with another 2-10 season with Fitz as starter.

  42. TonyC Says:

    If we have decent defense and good running game then Fitz will be asked to manage the game nothing more nothing less. I think people will be surprised by Fitzpatrick’s early success.

  43. BrianBucs Says:

    America’s Crotchgrabber and Confirmed Liar should be the team’s #3 QB when he comes off of suspension and be the deactivated emergency QB on game days. He should only ever enter a game if both of the other 2 QB’s are injured. He’s only there for emergency situations. This gives Licht time to find this team a TRUE franchise QB

  44. SchwiftyBuc Says:

    Funny how the same fans that fell in love with Mike Glennon are the same fans that are in love with Fitz as well.

  45. Darin Says:

    Joe the voting for me is more about the team than being a Fitz fan. I dont know how anyone could want Jameis in If Fitz beats the Steelers on MNF. Thats not even taking into consideration what Jameis did. You ride the qb who wins. Jameis hasnt done that yet, n now he has gotten in trouble for some inexcusable act. Make him earn it. And definitely cant pull a qb who is winning. 2-1 last year. And I’m a Jameis fan…well was..not sure how much anymore.
    Having said all that tho this team isnt winning any of the first 3 without a greatly improved defense. Good ole Brady might not be able to win any for this team if it trots out the ole Sittin Back Smitty Special again.

  46. JabooBuc Says:

    Nobody’s in love with Fitz but most are disgusting with JW.

  47. Pete I Says:

    Is anyone really a Fitz “fan” and who is in “love” with him? No. Fitz sucks even if he does go 3-0, that said thanks to America’s Choir Boy doing his latest dumb thing, we now are forced to support Fitz. Like or dislike is irrelevant.

  48. AlteredEgo Says:

    Jameis need a YEAR away from football if he is ever going to escape and resurrect his career….free advice contrary to everyone that has their hands in his pockets…. if Jameis thinks it has been bad….the 3 weeks of talks while suspended….and the giant MAGNIFYING glass on his azz when he returns….is too much too quick…

  49. Dewey Selmon Says:

    I bet if jobs are on the line Dirk goes with the hot hand. I think Fitz goes 1-2 and Winston goes 8-5. No playoffs but Dirk keeps him job and Winston gets 20 million.

  50. Lamarcus Says:

    Fitz is garbage. We are trouble if he is overthrowing flip passes like did Az.

  51. Not there yet Says:

    Because 56% of joebucsfans are stupid to think Fitz is better. But you can’t really argue because who knew so many people in the world were psychologists and know human nature so well. Didn’t realize mental wards and jails were filled with football players, I bet a criminal background check of everyone posting here would reveal a lot of hypocrites.

    I say save this poll for the fake to be exposed when week 4 comes. Here’s like 37 and he’s a backup period.

    For those that don’t want to see him play because of the allegations ok but you that think Fitz is better your just stupid we’ll ignore you. Moralists need to find another hobby when the season begins because from that point it’s about wins and loses

  52. Marc Says:


    America’s Groper! We’ve been over this!

  53. Lamarcus Says:


    Even NFL gave JW a free pass. Hey it’s America Qb. NFL knows better

  54. K_Bassuka Says:

    If Fitzpatrick start the whole year we are going 2-14 max. He is garbage and the team it’s better off playing a rookie than that bum.

  55. Gruden4President Says:

    According to DB55 we need sexual predators to win? Yea cause that makes sense. Taking what you want when You want has nothing to do with being an Alpha Male. Tom Brady , Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson all alpha males yet they don’t display this type of behavior. You’re a disgrace to the iconic name and number you use as your handle.

  56. Bucsfanman Says:

    I seriously question supposed “fans” of this football TEAM sometimes!
    If you’re a fan, you SHOULD be rooting for WHOEVER is under center for this football TEAM. I don’t care if it’s the reincarnation of Vinny Testaverde and his many shades of gray.
    Fitzy is the QB for at least the first three games.
    Buc fans: Root for your starting QB through week 3!

    As an aside, anyone who thinks that Jameis is not returning as the starter is kidding themselves. The entire front office staff have their wagon hitched to that guy. He WILL play in 2018. His play in 2018 will dictate his, Koetter’s, Licht’s, and the rest of this staff’s future. You can take that to the bank, he WILL play.

  57. Bucsfanman Says:

    BTW, nobody says that you have to like the person you are rooting for. You’re not rooting for individual success as much as TEAM success.

  58. SB Says:

    ‘This isn’t about football though. It’s about a troubled man-child with a pattern of assuming he can take whatever he wants, whenever he wants it.’


    DING DING DING DING DING………..Nailed it!

  59. AlteredEgo Says:

    The entire front office staff have their wagon hitched to that guy. He WILL play in 2018…
    50’s movie cartoon….wagon going over the cliff~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  60. SB Says:

    The more I think about it the only way the Bucs’ front office can save face is by suspending JW for the other 3 games. Harsh but true.

  61. Bird Says:


    Again – do not put crushed up paint chips up your nose. The NFL did not do Jameis a favor cause there was nothing there.

    He got 6 games. His camp negotiated 3 cause he f d up and
    Lied and doesn’t remember the night.
    They said they would not appeal and
    Make nfl look bad.

    Dude. Just please stop

  62. Dooshlarue Says:

    I’m pulling for Fitzpatrick.
    I just hope he has learned the finer parts of being a starter like eating W’s, not leading receivers and the extremely important fumbling for no apparent reason.
    If he can master those skills, then we have a real shot!

  63. DB55 Says:

    Save what face SB? They suck and have forever. The only people who pay attention live between Lakeland and Sarasota.

  64. AlteredEgo Says:

    DB55 Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    Save what face SB? They suck and have forever

    maybe it has been you…..

  65. Bucsfanman Says:

    DB55- “they suck and have forever.”
    That’s why this is disappointing. The expectations for this offense (sans the OL) have been elevated as the talent has been added. Jameis is a better QB than Fitz and gives the team a better chance to win, IMO.
    Fans deserve better and I hope the Bucs are ready.

  66. AlteredEgo Says:

    Dooshlarue Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    I’m pulling for Randy Hedberg….

  67. SB Says:

    DB you are really showing ignorance lately. Why don’t you just go root for the Jags man.

  68. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    Those W’s taste good to the college and high school players because they arse isn’t tight and they get it…

  69. DB55 Says:

    Okay so the Bucs haven’t sucked forever? When’s the last time they made the playoffs? Or a 10 wins season? How many coaches in the last ten years?

    The Bucs are such garbage even Gruden didn’t want anything to do with them AFTER they put him on the ring of dishonor.

  70. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    A year off will not redirect the magnifying glass because that is why he is again assumed guilty of the same crap that without a doubt Big Ben did, but Big Ben was allowed to overcome it…

    Jameis needs no time off that would not help…he needs to be back on the field and given the same opportunity Big Ben was given…period!

  71. DB55 Says:

    Please enlighten me since I’m so ignorant SB. You fckn clown go route for the gators another set of losers. Last time they won a national championship they had like 8 murders on the team since then the can’t even beat fl Atlantic.

    Draft VH3 he said he has skills he said, ignorance at its best. Tired of you trying to come for me with your weak insults. You’re a dumbarse too. Stfu.

  72. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:


    The pathetic bucs organization ran by complete clowns have no face to save. they have been complete embarrassment to professional sports way before jameis winston arrived and will be when Jameis is winning super bowls with a real franchise. This organization has not had respect since Gruden cleaned dungy the losers mess up and won a superbowl.

  73. Bucsfanman Says:

    What’s up t…., I mean RiaB?! How’s Colorado?
    What you and DB55 state, in terms of achievement is a “no duh!” statement. Fans have languished while this franchise remains a joke. Call the DeBartolos immediately! We need REAL leadership.

  74. DB55 Says:

    And Gruden still don’t want nothing to do with you

  75. AlteredEgo Says:

    DB55 …can you get any smaller….bring intelligent /understandable/supportable takes….yeah..everyone knows where you are coming from….but please…step up your game

  76. Dooshlarue Says:

    Funny that you call most of us stupid and then say:
    Fitzpatrick has NEVER won more than 6 games in a season and then say except for 1 year.
    See, this is how it works genius……NEVER means NEVER.
    You are a complete JW Cuck-tard.
    Go away you miserable pr!ck.

  77. Cobraboy Says:

    BucdUp Says:

    Demons that haven’t showed up for two years… A man trying to make difference in his community the past two years really sounds like a demon…

    He has had many months to man up, even make a “too drunk to remember” mea culpa. He had months to inform the team and the NFL of the Uber complaint as he was required to do.

    He did nothing but lie to everyone.

    That’s called “denial” and those are symptoms of inner demons, and not a pretty look on the “face of the franchise.”

    His “difference in the community” the last two years *should* have been “Let me tell you about a dumb move I made, and why no man ever should do what I did.”

    I was hoping there was nothing to the complaint. Seems the complaint is accurate. And now, when busted as he KNEW he was going to be, he makes a lame confession?

    I like Winston but have lost immense respect for the guy. I don’t think his talent can be replaced, but if it could I would rather he take it elsewhere. His value is diminished. But he’ll stay a Buc.

  78. DB55 Says:


    You’re right I should have said he has a 0.08% of winning ten games which is better than Jameis 0%.

    Unless you count 2016, if only VH3 wouldn’t have allowed Cooper (who’s garbage) to have a career game. Also jameis’s fault.

  79. AlteredEgo Says:

    DB55….you ..if you are a Buc fan….come back with a new screen name….I can’t get by the HOF association and you personal opinion azzyak….

  80. Oneilbucs Says:

    I can’t wait for the season to start. All y’all fizpatrick lovers are going to see that he is trash trash trash trash. Y’all just been hateing Winston for a long time and now y’all think he will be gone . If they get rid of Winston I am done with this team cause I know now you don’t care about winning. They will go get another quarter back and he is going to suck. And Winston will win somewhere else just like the rest did when they left. Y’all fans rather have choir boys and lose then having a few tough guys and win . Look at saap , rice, Brooks, .

  81. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Can we at least simplify the debate and get down to what it’s really about?

    We are talking about the future not the present. We are making judgements and passing opinions based on past history.

    A famous man once said those who do not learn from history are deemed to repeat it.


    I generally both like and respect your posts but the one about needing “alpha” males was just dumb. And so Leroy Selmon, Merlin Olson, Pastor Reggie White…I could go on you get my point…you’re suggesting that a team full of these class acts would be a loser? Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa

    You do not have to be a thug (not in the racist sense…IMHO Incognito is just as big a thug as’s not the color it’s the behavior. So you like the thugs eh…In my growing years I can say I”ve seen a team survive a thug or two and if the rest of the team has class acts they can carry a talented enough thug.

    My point…you do not need to be an alpha/thug to be a good football player. Not saying it prevents it but it just adds challenges you don’t really need.

  82. AlteredEgo Says:

    Keep digging DB…..

  83. Geno Says:

    DB55 Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    And here lies the problem, in order to win in the nfl you need a few players like this. They’re called alphas. And that’s why the Bucs will be and always have been losers.

    —–DB 55 – I prefer the Leroy Selmon and Derrick Brooks alphas.

  84. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    I have never seen more fans they are happier losing and bitching about it.

  85. SB Says:

    DB55 Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    Please enlighten me since I’m so ignorant SB. You fckn clown go route for the gators another set of losers. Last time they won a national championship they had like 8 murders on the team since then the can’t even beat fl Atlantic.
    What a Stupid statement. You and I are no longer cool on this site. You are an Ignorant Racist and I can’t deal with your antics any longer. The last time the Gators won a National championship was last yr in Baseball. How many Murderers were on that team? And the last time we won it in 2008 in FB HOW were there 8 murderers? Only one to my knowledge.
    You REALLY need to go find another team to root for as your negativity is not accepted Anywhere here. You don’t even add good points as to where we can improve.
    You are simply: “We suck, we have always sucked. McIceCream is the fault. Wash Rinse Repeat
    Done being cordial with you bud.

    And to Tmax…….I stopped listening to ANYTHING you typed a Loooooong time ago. Keep being miserable and enjoy it.

  86. reality-is-a-beotch Says:


    leroy selmon never won anything and derrick brooks was leader of an underachieving team that won a pathetic 5 playoff games in 10 years with a top 3 defense. proving defense does not win championships but that it barely wins ONE championship. they both are well deserving members of the buccaneer ring of underachievement…. stop living in a failed past brooks and the rest of those underachieving HAS BEENS have not done anything since super bowl victory… hardly legends on a real franchise with those underachieving on field results.

  87. SB Says:

    DB I will type this one more time as Joe’s filters are in the Pyramids age.
    First off the last time the Gators won a NC was last yr in Baseball.
    Were there 8 M urder ers on that team?
    Last time they won the NC in football there was One Murder er on their team that we know of.
    You add Nothing to the Bucs Fanbase but negativity.
    From this day forward we are no longer good with each other.

    And to T m ax. I stopped reading your posts months ago because I dont care about Kindergarten anymore.

  88. DB55 Says:

    You want some wine and cheese biatch?

  89. Sc Bucs fan Says:


    Didn’t you block TMax until the start of the regular season?

  90. AlteredEgo Says:

    Fitz…better not be the season starter…..fact jack !….he is was he was/has been…..not a season starter…not a starter unless the starter is injured….maybe I’m wrong….nothing personal…but Fitz has not been a starter since Harfaraward….

  91. AlteredEgo Says:

    Lee Roy won everything….kick yur azz punk

  92. Geno Says:

    So are there any bucs you like past or present?

  93. DB55 Says:

    September 2017

    9 Suspended Florida Gators facing multiple felony charges each. – sbnation

    But you being the hypocrite that you are got issues with Jameis even though he’s never been arrested or charges with anything.

    Hypocrites the whole lot.

  94. Mike Johnson Says:

    Perhaps this is how it was suppose to happen for Jameis. The easiest way out for him is to..straighten up and concentrate on ballin and Winning. Ever notice something about Winners? There Sins seem to become a thing of the past. Start Winning Jameis and Buc fans will come back in droves. Keep Losing and they will say, Loser..I told you so!!!! Fitz is very capable of winning 2 or all 3 of our starting games. providing our Defense has improved as much as we has improved. BucLife baby!!..Always Winning!!!!!

  95. Owlykat Says:

    Don’t forget when Fitz went 2-3 he was playing behind a porous OL with the worst Buc’s Defense in memory and no running game. Yet some of you call him garbage; his record last year calls him “A WINNER”. Remember how well he dodged sackers (the opposite of Albatross Glennon who had a mob of Buc’s Fans drooling over him—calling him “The Cannon”—now that was the garbage QB) and reeled off good runs to keep drives alive, and was able to move the Bucs and had no problem scoring in the red zone (unlike Famous Jameis). So get your facts straight before slandering Fitz again! Now Jameis after getting his team fired up had so much adrenalin he overthrew our players and often started slow, but still racked up enough yards to be fifth best in the NFL just last year. If we had just brought in Fitz to score when Jameis got us down to the red zone we would have had a winning season last year and made the playoffs despite our worst defense, no running game, and awful place kicking. With our better OL this year, better running game, much better defensive pass rush this coming season, including better kicking, if Jameis can play as well as he did last year and have some other player cheer up our team to start, Fitz and Jameis together can save their Coaches and GM’s Jobs. That is why the Glazers are sticking with Jameis this year.

  96. Dave Pear Says:

    ne 30th, 2018 at 7:07 pm

    Don’t forget when Fitz went 2-3
    He went 2-1.

  97. SB Says:

    I think Owly was trying to say 2 of 3.

  98. Dave Pear Says:


    Oh that’s possible. I may have misread it.

  99. SB Says:

    Well Owly is a thoughtful poster. I think that was just a slip on his part. We all know Fitz didn’t start 5 games last yr.

  100. DB55 Says:

    Joe let the facts flow.

    9 gators brought up on felony charges just last yr but you wanna talk about JW? Hypocrites

  101. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Spent the night last night in the cooler (again)……thought I might get a chance to meet you there…..but amazingly with all this going on and the insults hurling…..I was the only one there.

    No…there was the Ghost of Tmax there…..that is one sick puppy……chanting
    “It’s Cancer93’s fault, It’s Cancer 9e’s fault, It’s Cancer 93’s fault” all friggin’ night….got no sleep.

    There was one bonus…..Friday night is pizza night.

  102. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Fitz will be fine….until he’s not…..he should have some chemistry with Brate (Harvard)…..along with some geometry, physics, economics and algebra.

  103. JimmyJack Says:

    So if the season goes down like like most of you expect the Bucs will be releasing Winston afterwards. I’m pretty confident that his new home would be New England, as a backup for Tom Brady’s last season and his replacement come 2020.

    What do y’all think about that?

  104. Buc believer Says:

    He is the man to lead us to 2-14

  105. DB55 Says:

    Antonio Callaway; Jordan Scarlett; Rick Wells; James Houston and Ventrell Miller; Jordan Smith, Keivonnis Davis, and Richerd Desir-Jones, Kadeem Telfort.

    Hmm but Winston though. Okay!

  106. DB55 Says:


    I hate NE with a passion and would still prefer that over him being here. Bunch of hypocrites around here and their holier than thou UF.

  107. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Buc believer Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
    He is the man to lead us to 2-14

    So, your saying Fitz will be 2-1….then Jameis will take over and we will go 0-13?

  108. Tony LA Says:

    There are far more “we need a better QB if we want to avoid 0-3” out there for sure. Fitz has never won anything anywhere. Period.

  109. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Jameis Winston will NEVER be a NE Patriot….I can guarantee you that… take a good look at their 3 QBs….and most of their offensive stars and you will figure it out….also….they would have to contend with Elizabeth Warren rants….not happening.

  110. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Wow…just wow!!! Some of you guys really do need to go to UFC as fans. Cheer for Conor MacGregor….I’m Irish…great grandparents dropped the first O’ off our last name…yet MacGregor embarrasses me as an Irishman. He’s exactly what some of you are looking for in a football player…ruthless congenital thug.

    But when we go so far as to DISS two of our Hall of Fame players because they didn’t kick or stomp on people when they were down. weren’t self absorbed attention whrs who only looked out for themselves.

    C’MON MAN! You are on a Buc fans site and you feel free to criticize two of our greatest players…HOFers who unlike the third Buc HOFer didn’t feel the need to beat up hookers. I just don’t get it.

  111. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I was in the cooler last night and only the Ghost of TMax was in there.

  112. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jimmy Jack

    Jameis will NEVER be a NE Patriot…..ask me why?

  113. Dooshlarue Says:

    Selmon was a huge part of the team that won the NFC North in 1979.
    I was there for all of it.

    And while I’m talking about 1979, that reminds me…. Doug Williams was the best QB The Bucs have ever had.

    He won.

  114. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Were you there in the rain at the Sombrero for the 9-0 loss to the Rams?

    Williams was good but we had a goose-egg in that NFC championship game.

    The D was so good it only allowed 3 FGs…..

  115. Ndog Says:

    Jameis made a huge mistake but Rothesberg was charged with much worse along the same lines and Ray Lewis was involved in a huge murder yet they go to the HOF and are beloved but Jameis should never be allowed to play again for less? What is wrong with this picture?

  116. Donuts Says:

    Can I ask you why?

  117. RustyRhinos Says:

    My whole hope about the Non start 4th game or possibly more. Is that the Non starts, are required from those who sign his paycheck. Move forward.
    Go Bucs!

  118. SB Says:

    DB55 Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 7:25 pm
    Antonio Callaway; Jordan Scarlett; Rick Wells; James Houston and Ventrell Miller; Jordan Smith, Keivonnis Davis, and Richerd Desir-Jones, Kadeem Telfort.

    Dude! if this is your defense of your “8 murder ers defense then I pity you.

    As usual, state frivolous spit and disappear. Sad. I hope you can become what I thought you were when we met 5 or so yrs ago.

  119. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I presume your are asking me about NE.

    Two reasons…..look at their current lineup of QBs along with most of the players on the offense….figure out what they have in common.

    Then….they would have to face the wrath and the rants from Elizabeth Warren.

  120. Donuts Says:

    Tony that’s not exactly true. Fitz won 10 games with Jets in 2015 but they did have a great D.

  121. T REX Says:

    Do not feed the DB55 troll. Ignore his posts. Maybe he will go away.

  122. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I tried to answer but my posts aren’t going through… reason is the wrath & rants from Elizabeth Warren..

  123. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I tried to answer but all of my posts on the subject were blocked….maybe they will show up later and I will look like I’m repeating myself.

  124. DB55 Says:

    That’s the only thing that would go thru the filters. The 8 m’s was an exaggeration obviously well maybe not obvious.

    My point is you U F fans are so high and mighty but you got people much worse than jw. Much much worse

  125. SB Says:

    Yeah I saw you go in the cooler yesterday 5 minutes after it happened. Lol you go in the cooler a bit now. 🙂 . You still haven’t been there as much as me.

  126. Donuts Says:


    Williams did have a bad game for the Bucs v Rams playoff. Let’s not forget though that Williams held many of the stat records for a Super Bowl performance for a long time when he won with Redskins. I also recollect he was not happy with McKay or Culberhouse who screwed him contractually.

    I always say NFL team success starts with the owners.

  127. StAugBuc Says:

    Tampabaybucfan Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 7:59 pm


    Were you there in the rain at the Sombrero for the 9-0 loss to the Rams?

    Williams was good but we had a goose-egg in that NFC championship game.

    The D was so good it only allowed 3 FGs…..
    And the game that won the division was 3-0 over Kansas City #revisionisthistory

  128. BrianBucs Says:

    Isn’t it interesting that the NFL has disciplined Winston but the Bucs have not? Hmmm

  129. SB Says:

    Hey St Aug Buc……….Congrats for kicking my arse in the Pick ’em again this past yr. I am trying to figure out how to set a FF league with some of us that participate the whole yr.

  130. StAugBuc Says:

    SB Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 8:29 pm

    Hey St Aug Buc……….Congrats for kicking my arse in the Pick ’em again this past yr. I am trying to figure out how to set a FF league with some of us that participate the whole yr.
    Sounds cool. I’m in!

  131. SB Says:

    Going to ride dirt bikes. Peace

  132. Donuts Says:


    No worries. I will look for it. I’m interested as Licht’s phone has Belicheat on speed dial

  133. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    I’ll give you one of the clues.(if it goes through) Elizabeth Warren

  134. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    One of the clues is the female Senator from Mass…..when I use her name it always gets blocked.

  135. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    The other is…look at the makeup of their current lineup of QBs and most of their offensive stars…..what do they have in common?

  136. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    BrianBucs Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    Isn’t it interesting that the NFL has disciplined Winston but the Bucs have not? Hmmm

    Didn’t discipline Doug Martin or Kwon….but those were substance suspensions.

    Also, it isn’t over yet…..but I doubt they will…..I don’t think we will hear another word on this from Jameis, the owners, the GM or the coaches…..we will see but I think they want this to go away….their silence will drive the media nuts.

  137. tval Says:

    This Henderson clown must be desperate for attention, or, his political career isn’t going the way he expected. I’d say in the face of a virtue signaling sports media, 56% is NADA!!! Itll be 25% when fitz goes 0-2 lol!!! And I hope he goes bad..but 3-0 and jameis STILL starts…per fitz..guaranteed!!!! Hes a REAL man and monster teammate/backup.

  138. Donuts Says:

    I would say they all have good character and choose team over individual accomplishments.

    I know the Sen from MA.

  139. BrianBucs Says:


    Agreed. The Bucs and the Winston camp want to say as little right now as possible.
    Hpwever, when they get their PR strategy decided we can expect washing machine level spin.

  140. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    That they do….but they are all also white… accusing the Pats of racism….but it is what it is.

    They did draft Jacoby Brissett QB in the 3rd round but traded him to the Colts a year later……

  141. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    Should have kept our #7 pick and drafted a Qb! And last year we should have got a running back with the #1 pick (hunt ,cook or Kamara) the bucs new this was coming heck we could have went Qb 1 and Jones 2 this year piss poor planning once again by light ….

  142. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    That’s just it….I don’t think they will do the PR spin thing…..I think there will be stone silence….we will see.

    I thing there is going to be the “no comment” spin.

  143. Knoxville Buc Fan Says:

    Looking forward to JW’S first home game, vs your Cleveland Browns. I’ll be coming home to witness our pitiful fans reaction as JW shreds the Browns to pieces. Your out of your skull if you think The Glazers will ever dump JW… now the least little bit of a f up after this then yeah. Hell yeah he’s gone!

  144. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Can we save the false equivalencies and comparisons to Ben Roethlisberger.

    First off a couple of points about Roethlesberger…he did have two incidents. They were worse than simple crotch grabbing. But it is irrelevant. This was LONG before #metoo and it’s just a different day. Roethlesberger also had NO incidents at Miami of Ohio…he also won a SB.

    But people seem to forget. Even back then Big Ben barely made it. For the first year after the brouhaha protestors showed up at stadiums across the country and every fan but Steeler fan called him Ben Rapelisberger. It wasnt the free pass some of you seem to believe.

    Think Jameis will hear any crotch grabbing taunts this year?

    Instead of Jameis jumping up on the table at FSU and screaming…it will be NFL fans around the nation screaming….Hey Jameis FHITP

  145. Dooshlarue Says:


    I was there in the rain for our 3-0 win against KC.
    Then we beat Philly at home. Doug Williams and Jimmy Giles!
    The Rams game was cold as hell and yeah, we couldn’t score, but for a 3 year old franchise it was awesome!
    Doug Williams could throw a deep ball big time.

  146. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    BucScotty it’s easy to be a hall of fame GM picking players a year or two after the draft

  147. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Yea….after the 0-26….it was awesome the turnaround in ’79…..I was hooked.

    There have been great disappointments over the years but winning the SB was spectacular……would like one more in my lifetime.

    By any chance did you go to the Sombrero on July 4, 1776 for the Bicentennial concert with Fleetwood Mac, Loggins & Mesina, and the Eagles?

  148. Joe Says:

    9 gators brought up on felony charges just last yr but you wanna talk about JW? Hypocrites

    This isn’t a Gators site.

  149. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    This year they could have picked a Qb and running back not a year or two ago this year they knew Winston would be suspended at 7 grab a Qb and round 2 still got RB this year 2018 draft

  150. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    And how would have a rookie QB helped us at 7? Remember JW, our #1 pick, is out 3 games, not a career.

  151. Capt.Tim Says:

    I was at that game. Just a kid.
    Doug Williams got his jaw broke, early in the 2nd quarter, and could not return

    Ive followed the Bucs since the beginning.

    I said we should draft a QB in the first round this year.
    We didnt
    We had Beau Allen at Nose tackle.

    Prognosticators, including Vegas, are all predicting the Bucs will win 2-4 games
    Firz and Ryan Griffith can win that many games

    Then meybe next draft, we can draft a QB whos not mentally defective.
    Meybe we learned from Freeman and Winston.

    Its gonna be a great draft for QBs!

  152. tval Says:

    A 3rd for FOLES???
    WAKE UP!!!! That’s Howie Roseman, not Chip

  153. tval Says:

    Forget Nick Foles..Carson wentz is NOT stable and Nick was lights out under Doug’s play calling. Philly won’t admit, but wentz’s job isn’t safe, and Nick is a GREAT teammate..(remember nick/Vick press conference?) Doesn’t matter what they say, publicly, when they are nick, jameis, fitz, wentz type teammates..its about the TEAM…period..and NATE SUDFELD is the steal!!! watch his tape vs Dallas in Eagles garbage time vs cowboys 1’s..its about buying low, not high..foles garners a LEAST!!!

  154. BrianBucs Says:


    The media pressure may force them into. Also, they have to know what to say to try to retain their corporate sponsors and advertisers. Lots of millions at stake on that front

  155. SB Says:

    Joe Says:
    June 30th, 2018 at 9:28 pm
    9 gators brought up on felony charges just last yr but you wanna talk about JW? Hypocrites

    This isn’t a Gators site.

    He had claimed that the Gators had 8 murd er ers on their last NC team Just acting like the buffoon he is.

  156. SB Says:

    Racist buffoon that spews baseless statements more often than not in the last couple of yrs. Don’t know what happened to him. Used to be a good dood.

  157. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Brian Bucs

    You may be right but the minute they try to explain this away, they will be in trouble……they can be silent publicly and address their corporate clients directly.

    We will see.

  158. Duke Says:


    The concert…was that after the Rowdies game?
    Another Super Bowl would be a nice reward for long suffering Buc Fans.

    Question, why isn’t Elizabeth Warren ranting and raging about the racist Patriots.
    I mean it’s not like She’s White…in fact White male Patriots is public enemy #1, in her eyes barely nudging out wall street investment houses, and wiped her tribe out.

    Just curious about that massive oversight in your overall equation. Well that and
    if what you say adds should be able to be true working backwards. Why is it 31 teams with no diversity aren’t seen as racist.

  159. BrianBucs Says:


    I’m sure that a lot of those corporate sponsors and advertisers have already contacted them. Trying to retain them is a job that I would NOT want at this time

  160. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Brian Bucs

    They will likely have to lower some rates and give lots of perks to retain many of them…..hopefully for the Bucs, most are on multi-year contracts….but you are right Bucs brass has their work cut out for them.

  161. Conservative Says:

    Trump grabs p***y and we all love him! What is the big deal? Let Winston make the Bucs great again!!

  162. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jameis can’t use the Trump excuse…and Jerry Richardson can’t use the Bill Clinton excuse… excuses……Go Fitz, then Go Jameis.

  163. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Half of my posts are simply not showing up….and they were the best ones….

  164. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Time to tuck it in…..a great Padron….10 single malts….stayed out of the cooler….life is good!!!

  165. Duke Says:

    Apparently the definition of an Alpha Male is in question. Take the following as a test to see if you are qualified to be judgmental.

    Looks at you and lies or looks into eyes and tells the truth?
    Words are free so speak with out costs or words are bonds so speak with the costs in mind?

    Peach fuzz or beard?
    Silk or Flannel?

    Licking fingers or chopping trees?
    Hunting drunk chicks or hunting elk?

    Pimples on a smooth as a babies butt cheeks or stubble so abrasive that rubbing against a car hood removes the paint?

    Babies Momma or wife?
    Hiding behind Legal definitions and technicalities or the truth and luxurious beard?

    Leadership style, Street corner hustler or strong and silent task master?
    JJ Walker or Leonaidas?

    If you answered all the questions with the last choice you’re an alpha.

  166. SB Says:

    Good night TBBF. LOL too!

  167. SB Says:

    Well put Duke!

  168. Joe Says:

    The leader of the free world has the balls to grab p***y and not appologize.

    He was a private citizen at the time.

  169. Daddylonglegs78 Says:

    Has anyone talked much about Winston’s contract with the Bucs? How does this suspension affect his contract… was there any clauses in his contract that could put his contract or guaranteed money in jeopardy? Just curious.

  170. Conservative Says:

    [Sorry Bonzai, Joe’s going to start cracking down on posters using multiple usernames. — Joe]

  171. donuts Says:

    I expect crickets on this issue for a while. The Glazers are not big on media circus type events. They are the anti-Jerry Jones style of mgmt. The Fourth of July is coming and we have a Tweeting Prez. There will be plenty of distractions.

    In regards to Fitzmagic, I expect him to win 6-8 games just like I did Winston. Im tired of losing like the rest of you but I am in prove it mode. Buc fans need to put their hard hats on and stick to next man up mentality. The Glazers will figure out Winston’s future. They can start by taking his mug shot off the stadium. Respect is earned especially in that locker room and this community. I would expect a few of the OL will look at him different now. The NFL language about treatment tells me there is a problem and alcohol may be a guise to cover another issue. If I were Brian Glazer, I would treat him like an hardcore addict and tell him show me 5 years (second contract completed) of sobriety and good character and we can talk then about being the focus of the team from a media perspective.

  172. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    Joe is your cracking down n multiple names pleas, please start with reality in a beotch

  173. unbelievable Says:

    Man there is some serious stupidity going on here today.

  174. Conservative Says:

    I am not bonzai. You just dont like my take! I have never posted before!

    [Well, well, well. Feel free to explain using the same IP address. — Joe]

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  175. donuts Says:


    I think it equates to 125K…loses 3 game checks from base salary. Peanuts…his big money is at roster bonus > 3 million.

  176. SteelStudBuc Says:

    America’s Prevert Jameis R@pizt Winston would look good in a Bengals uniform

  177. Conservative Says:

    Joe I have never put a single thing on this site and the fact that you are sensoring me makes me sick. I have lost respect for this site!

    No one is doing any “sensoring” [sic] unless it is deserved. — Joe

  178. T REX Says:

    Wow…Joe, please get rid of the politics. The religious right whack job is ruining the experience here. You know who he is and his multiple aliases.

    Time to clean up the place. Don’t forget to take Jameis out with the rest of the trash though. Thank you!

  179. BucEmUp Says:

    obviously if he wins games he should remain the starter…..thats a no brainer. position and draft status mean nothing….onky wins dictate who starts. Roll with the hot hand.

  180. Mort Says:

    It’s a pattern only if you go back to FSU and believe none of the investigations surrounding the Kinsman situation which all exonerated Jameis.

    I take this as what it is – a guy who got drunk, inappropriately touched a woman and has since apparently decided drinking is a problem if this is the result. That hardly makes him an “Animal” as I’ve seen some say, just a really bad episode. If the victim is happy with the punishment, others should be too. Let’s not pretend this is anywhere near as bad as Ray Rice or Joe Mixon. Shoot, a TON of you hypocrites wanted to DRAFT Joe Mixon after having seen his tape of him knocking out a woman and breaking her face! Now all the sudden a drunken touch is worse than a face rearrangement? Stop it.

  181. Conservative Says:

    I am on vacation ip investigator. I live in Hillsborough and am vacationing in Pinellas. I can see why you no longer are a private investigator. Your logic skills lack.

  182. Conservative Says:

    Tonight is first time I have ever posted

  183. Conservative Says:

    All I want to bring to light is there is a whole bunch of sanctimonious snowflake noise on this site. The comments sound like the crap that gets put on cnn or msnbc. A bunch of fake outrage.

  184. SB Says:

    Pinellas is slightly better than Hillsborough.

  185. martinii Says:

    This probably won’t get posted much less read, but my opinion counts also…..
    I am really sick of hearing about JW losing the locker room or his teammates not trusting him. Sure he screwed up and he will get suspended and all the do gooders will cast dispersions on him, however when the cloud passes what really counts is wins. His 52 teammates will be focused on football, their career, their jobs, their paychecks, winning going to playoffs. they could give a rats ass about who cheerleading in the locker room. These are NFL professional’s and team comes first, not off field disruptions. They have had knucklehead screw ups in their lockerrom since pee wee and as long as they play well and aren’t named Swaggy they could care less. We need to get to training camp and into the season, this will all pass when it counts. Ask Big Ben.

  186. Bunch of Bitches Says:

    If Jameis can get through this firestorm of negativity, he will be fine and become the franchise quarterback that we all hoped for. I feel like he may come unglued at some point this season and have some sort of tantrum or outburst. Maybe he walks away to play baseball.

  187. adam from ny Says:

    i heard jameis just apologized to the team and said:

    “when i come back for the chicago game, if we win i’m taking the whole squad to a whore house – y’all feel me”…

    half the team was looking at him like DJ11 was during his “eat a w” pregame speech in new orleans last season

  188. Cobraboy Says:

    @ Conservative: you are busted by your IP address. Next time use a proxy server when you try gaming the system.

  189. unbelievable Says:

    not surprising that “conservative” can’t spell or use his vpn correctly.

  190. BigMacAttack Says:

    Que T.O. That’s my quarterback video.

  191. Conservative Says:

    Cobraboy and unbelievable are obviously little snowflakes ready to be outraged by everything!! Boo hoo boys!!! Go watch cnn and get mad mad mad at all the mean nasty things in life!

  192. Conservative Says:

    Cobraboy and unbelievable are obviously little snowflakes ready to be outraged by everything!! Boo hoo boys!!!