NFL Makes A Fast Call On A Discipline Question
May 21st, 2018
Well, the NFL discipline team sure acts quickly, swiftly and with authority when it wants to — nice and tidy before a barrage of questions on a subject at tomorrow’s NFL owners meeting in Atlanta.
News came this afternoon from NFL super insider Adam Schefter (Tweet below) that the NFL has wrapped up various angles of its study of the horrific rape allegations made against new Lions head coach Matt Patricia more than 20 years ago.
The accusation came to light earlier this month as part of a Detroit News investigative report into the charges. Prior to that report, the Lions claimed to have had no knowledge of old the charges against Patricia, which were tossed out of court decades ago.
What’s noteworthy about the Schefter claim is that his sources tell him the NFL met last week with the Lions and Patricia to work things out.
Man, it sure smells funny that the league pounced all over this Lions issue while it didn’t bother to do the same thing with the Buccaneers and Jameis, who has spent the last six months under the cloud of a league investigation into whether he actually grabbed a female Uber driver’s crotch without permission.
C’mon, NFL, how bout some equality — and a little clarity — in how these investigations are prioritized and approached. The fans deserve better. So does Jameis.
NFL determined that neither the Lions nor Matt Patricia will be subject to any discipline in regards to previous allegations made against Detroit’s HC, per sources. The league met last week with the Lions and Patricia.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) May 21, 2018
May 21st, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Selective discipline. It’s not a high priority case and will be met with little fanfare outside of Tampa Bay.
It is absolutely ridiculous!
May 21st, 2018 at 2:23 pm
Wow. I’ll say this, Bucs (I know you are reading). If Tampa is on a playoff run and Goodell decides to drop the hammer on Jameis I will be done, done, done with the NFL.
-Ten year season ticket holder
May 21st, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Just play him regardless. Have the Glazers call Goodell and inform him the investigation is over. And that Jameis will be playing every game he’s healthy for. Thank you and good day Roger. Sincerely, your boss.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:28 pm
Complete and utter BS that this was wrapped up so fast and there has been zero update on the Jameis situation
May 21st, 2018 at 2:33 pm
No way can they suspend Jameis now. Funny how the white guy who says I didn’t do it is cleared immediately.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:38 pm
I don’t want to throw out the race card, but does anyone have a more plausible explanation?
May 21st, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Joe I think we should get every single buc fan in the world together an raise havoc on the nfl or harass Goodell or take to social media or send emails by the boatloads. There’s gotta be something we can do besides wait. This is such b.s. y’all. P.s I don’t mean we physically harm goodell or the nfl lol
May 21st, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Different treatment for the Patricians than the Plebes. It took almost no time to investigate and clear someone in the managerial class of an allegation of rape—one that led to an indictment. For the working class, an allegation of touching inappropriately, where there were no charges and police weren’t even notified, takes forever to investigate. Where is Steven A. when you need him.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Probably because Winston’s case is so low priority compared to a docket full of high priority allegations. There’s a chance that Goodell could give Winston a warning for non disclosure, maybe even a small suspension. But personally I think he will just give a warning to Winston, and move on. Tomorrow at the owners meeting. ….fingers crossed!
May 21st, 2018 at 2:50 pm
Patricia was hand picked by bellicheat…
Goodell and bellicheat have been in bed together for quite sometime…
It’s all NFL politics and keeping the guys who once represented the patriots appear to be stand up…
While all the “thugs” (aka black players who don’t talk whute) get the shaft anytime there is an ALLEGATION…
Since when did our justice system change from ‘innocent until proven guilty,’ to ‘guilty, until proven innocent???’
May 21st, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Have any of you thought the reason NFL isn’t ruling on the JW investigation is BECAUSE THERE IS NO INVESTIGATION!
May 21st, 2018 at 2:53 pm
it’s race, definitely race. the white guy jumped in line
May 21st, 2018 at 2:55 pm
SCBucsFan
I think the NFL is sitting on their hands.
If there was no investigation they would have said so.
It’s really not their style to make a guy sweat unless they were confident making him and the organization they play for wait… because waiting is hard if there is the fear of immenent punishment.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:55 pm
C’mon man! Now this smells.
I wonder if there is something going on with the Uber end of this thing. I think that company has had a lot of trouble related to sexual assault of drivers and passengers. Makes me wonder if there are other agreements in place that make this particularly difficult for the parties involved to comment on.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:57 pm
If you really don’t think color is a factor, then your opinion is moot.
Sorry, ignorance is bliss and also dangerous.
May 21st, 2018 at 2:58 pm
“If you really don’t think color is a factor, then your opinion is moot.”
signed-racist
May 21st, 2018 at 2:58 pm
Fire the Glazers if you think Patricia got a pass because he’s white I feel sorry for you
May 21st, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Cmon Robert…
Don’t be a part of the problem.
It’s all obvious. Just take your anger out of the equation.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:03 pm
SCBucsFan
I only recognize the possibilty that the color of his skin was A FACTOR.
Besides, don’t feel sorry for me.
Work on yourself, and lend words of encouragement, to fellow Bucs fans.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Joe, please put up some sort of petition, that we fans can register our
disgust for the manner in which the NFL and specifically the office of the commissioner
is conducting itself in regard to the ALLEGATION regarding JW3 by the Uber driver.
Additionally, is there a email address that we can flood with complaints regarding this miscarriage of justice?
May 21st, 2018 at 3:05 pm
It was thought that when Goodell & Winston met before the draft that Goodell told Winston not to show up (not printed or spoken) at the draft! So, that being the case I expect Winston to be Suspended 2 to 4 games! Tuff season ahead & playoffs look like a dim memory (before it has even started)!
May 21st, 2018 at 3:07 pm
SCBucsFan
If there were no investigation don’t you think someone would know that and disclosed that to the team and their fans already? If there was no investigation wouldn’t it had been easier for the league office and Goodell to say that there was no ongoing investigation? There’s something there and eventually we’re going to find out. Goodell could just let it go and give the NFL a little positive PR for a change. ..let’s hope so
May 21st, 2018 at 3:22 pm
Not sure of an e-mail address but you can Twitter Roger Goodell. @nflcommish
May 21st, 2018 at 3:26 pm
Huge difference in circumstances here folks!!!! One was only 1 occasion that happened decades ago, with no other instances in that time.
The other, much to the chagrin of Bucs fans, happened recently, after warnings and short leashes and informed that this “stuff” cannot happen with his name involved!!!!!
All JW3 had to do was keep his name out of the news for the wrong reasons!!! It is not hard to do!!!!!! And even if he was not the guilty party, but could be found guilty by association, could still have the hammer dropped on him by the King ( Roger Goodell) who has been one of the best NFL Commissioners!!!!!!!!!
Go King Goodell
and GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 3:33 pm
The Buc Realist
We don’t actually have all or most of the facts involving the case with Patricia…
With Jameis, or any player for that matter, all it takes is an allegation, and even if he’s in the same room, the guy gets crucified by media before he’s ever given a chance to defend himself in court.
The problem is systematic and goodell is at the center of it. He may not be the direct cause, but he does have the power to take a stand for something more than just the sexual misconduct of the players…
May 21st, 2018 at 3:37 pm
I wholeheartedly wish that everyone who so easily dismisses the race card could be a poc for a month. Walk a mile and such. Smh.
But whatever, obviously there is NO race ism in America whatsoever. Never!
🙈🙉🙊
May 21st, 2018 at 3:37 pm
Suspend him the 1st pre-season game.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:38 pm
not surprised one bit…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 3:40 pm
DB55
Well said.
Dewey Selmon
Great idea.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:41 pm
The Buc Realist
You appear complacently fond of Goodell while advocating for some kind of punishment. Is that your desire?
May 21st, 2018 at 3:42 pm
Maybe there is no investigation to conclude?
May 21st, 2018 at 3:47 pm
I don’t know if the NFL comments on investigations that aren’t happening.
“The NFL would like to announce they are not investigating Kwon Alexander for anything at the moment. Nothing to see here, move along”.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Please DB55. There are race problems but not every problem is a race problem. You don’t have to walk a mile on anyone’s shoes to know that.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:52 pm
Funny being a tide fan I see my black brothers getting all worked up about Tua starting over Hurts. Even though Tua will be the first pick in the draft when he comes out and Jalen couldn’t make a cfl roster as a third stringer.
It’s sad
May 21st, 2018 at 3:52 pm
@Trench War
My desire is to have the face of the franchise, to stay out of trouble!!!!! to not be involved or in a car with bad behavior when his name is on the bill!!!!!! If you own a boat, you are the captain, and you are responsible for everyone on that vessel!!!! If something happens you are responsible, you will get the citation, you will pay the infraction!!!!! This is how JW3 needs to treat ALL Situations!!!!!!
And as far as King Goodell is concerned!!! Are we not all for someone that has clean up their business!!!! That puts in place a standard that we can be proud of!!!!! The shield is something all employees can display with honor and nobility!!!!! Something the youth look up to!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 3:53 pm
I think this falls somewhere between there is no investigation and the NFL prefers to drag this out so long that it eventually subsides.
I don’t think there is enough evidence for this to really go to a suspension….but it can’t be totally ignored.
May 21st, 2018 at 3:57 pm
“The shield…”
At the expense of individualism…
May 21st, 2018 at 3:58 pm
Jerry Markbriet slicks Godell’s bic
May 21st, 2018 at 4:00 pm
If you want “individualism” watch the NBA!!!! This is a game, where players conform to be something greater, a team!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 4:05 pm
The NFL stupidly announced an “investigation” into the Winston/Uber “case” before realizing that there is nothing to investigate…
Perhaps Goodell would like to announce the final results of the ongoing 4 year Josh Freeman HIPPA violation “investigation” at this year’s owner’s meeting as well??
May 21st, 2018 at 4:06 pm
Haha.
Not what I mean. On the field, yes, the team first…
But off the field…
Barring illegal conduct, no one can impose conduct on the indisvidual to conform to anything beyond their own choices…
May 21st, 2018 at 4:13 pm
jamies isn’t revelant to the nfl but a head coach is a much bigger fish nationally so …Stop the race card please
May 21st, 2018 at 4:15 pm
Off the field too!!!!! Did we all not slam Drug Martin for what he did off the field as selfish!!!!! If you want to be part of the NFL, you have to conduct yourself as an upstanding citizen, which I am sure has been explained many times to them!!!!!!!
Moral responsibility assumes a capacity for making rational decisions, which in turn justifies holding moral agents accountable for their actions. Given that moral agency entails responsibility, in that autonomous rational agents are in principle capable of responding to moral reasons, accountability is a necessary feature of morality!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 4:16 pm
@DB55,
On this issue, I agree with you 100%. There is no other explanation. You can say because the Patricia incident happened years ago if you want, but anyone with any common sense knows it’s easier to investigate something that happened a couple years ago versus something that happened 20 years ago. So how did that investigation wrap up in a minute and a half, while nothing has happened to Jameis? I mean really people, you can’t seriously believe that race doesn’t play at least a small part in this, can you? Obviously there are people that really feel that it doesn’t, but those are the same people that believe every cop’s violent actions are justified, and racism ended during the civil rights. I have never understood why people are so defensive anytime it’s possible race played an issue, because clearly it does. If you don’t believe me, just take a look at Jameis’s instagram feed. Look at the comments about Jameis on other sites. He’s scum of the earth according to them. Yet those same people would vote Peyton Manning as commissioner??? But yeah, nothing to do with race whatsoever.
May 21st, 2018 at 4:25 pm
the stupidity is strong in this thread
May 21st, 2018 at 4:27 pm
The Buc Realist…
I said ‘barring ILLEGAL conduct…’
Did I not?
So drug Martins actions don’t apply.
May 21st, 2018 at 4:32 pm
And your argument that accountability being a necessary agent in morality is not rooted with strength.
You’re assuming that some are not accountable, therefore not upholding a moral code suitable to your standards.
Truth is, we don’t know… any of these individuals… therefore we cannot assume to be righteous compared to someone we do not know.
May 21st, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Sign Richie Incognito… NOW!
May 21st, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Not my standards!!!! The standards that were laid out and explained to him repeatedly!!!!!!!!!!! And like Joe reported, ( great story and point) that he did not report it!!!!! Especially when his name was associated with such activity!!!!!
I will not tell the man how to live, But We have expectations if he wants to play in the NFL!!!!!!!!!
And once again!!!! It is not that hard to stay out of trouble!!!!!! Majority of players seem to do it with ease!!!!!!!! Everyone one keeps saying how smart JW3 is, yet why do we see the same mistakes over and over?????? If he gets a 2 game suspension, can you really say he has been railroaded into that punishment?????
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 4:45 pm
More ignorance than stupidity, I think, Robert.
May 21st, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Goodell is an idiot. He definitely plays favorites. I’m not sure if it’s race driven or not, but based on his actions since becoming commissioner, he makes consistently bad decisions. In the criminal court system of Florida, all defendants have the right to a speedy trial. This can be waived by a defendant and I believe it’s 60 or 90 days max. I’m not a lawyer, thank God. This really shouldn’t be any different and since the NFL has gone way beyond that period, Jameis should not be subject to any disciplinary action on this matter. The NFL has procrastinated without any good reason. If Goodell does suspend him, then the Bucs should take it to court and they will win. 😂
May 21st, 2018 at 4:59 pm
MAYBE BECAUSE THE COURT ALREADY RULED IN MATT’S FAVOR, 19 YEARS AGO IF YOU LOOKING FOR RACISM YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND IT. GOODELL CARES ABOUT HEADLINES AND THIS WAS WAY BIGGER THAN WINSTON OR ANY OTHER INVESTIGATION.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:01 pm
If you want to look at Goodell disciplinary inconsistencies, look no further than the Patriots. They have done things that changed the outcomes of games. Isn’t that where Roger’s primary focus should be? All they ever get is a slap on the wrist. All allegations should be proven before any disciplinary action is taken. Has that actually happened with Jameis? Weren’t there witnesses to this action? Roger Goodell sucks.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:09 pm
@ shooter
The courts did not rule in matt’s favor. They indicted him. The witness backed out due to stress like many victims do. He was charged. Jameis has never been charged with any crime so yea race is a factor.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:11 pm
@ shooter
When the witness backed out, the courts dropped the case. He was not found innocent
May 21st, 2018 at 5:12 pm
folks…..don’t pay @rhealist any attention!!!!!!!….
the second Winston has to sit, he’ll be screaming give this staff a 2year pass……
he’s so full of sh!t…..that’s why his skirt has remained up over his head!!!!!!
pull your skirt down!!!!!….your tmaxi is showing!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 5:12 pm
@ db55
There is no racism in america. Thats why patricia at 19 was accused and indited on charges but has never been called the names jameis has. Jameis was accused at 19 without any evidence to substantiate such a claim and therefor was never charged but we all know what he is constantly called every day of his life. No there is no racism. The cops were needed for the starbucks incident, the harvard student sleeping in the lounge, the cops were needed when the black man was moving into his downtown new york apartment and the cops were definitely needed when black vacationers were leaving an air bnb last week
May 21st, 2018 at 5:14 pm
If this was about race, and the scenario was a black boy groping a white girl then Goodell would have already suspended Winston for 6 games. Right? because this is racially motivated.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:17 pm
race is as big and bright as the sun……if you don’t believe that, you aint from this planet…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 5:20 pm
Ben that’s real problem with a lot if not most white men . They use the word race card to throw off the real truth. That being black in this country we see a lot of things that go against us . That white people can do and don’t face hard punishment like blacks get . N that’s why some might believe race is part of it . We know that every thing is not about race but a lot is . We hate to believe that but for a lot of white people that’s truth rather they say it or not . You can tell by the action n words . Trust me …..
May 21st, 2018 at 5:23 pm
@ shooter
Also goddell has said you do not have to be found guilty in the court of law to be suspended. The same thing happened to greg hardy. He was indicted for domestic violence but the witness backed out so charges were dropped. Hardy still got a suspension.
@ realist
You act as if jameis is guilty. Taking a uber ride does not make you guilty. Being accused of something does not make you guilty. He is a target. I am sorry but im not going to jump on jameis just because some random girl at busch gardens say jameis touched her. That is totally not fair but the reality its a possibility that anyone can sling such an accusation.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Fitz better be getting ready to start the first 6 games.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:29 pm
The Buc Realist touched me in an inappropriate manner.
I think the Joe’s should ban him for life.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:32 pm
^^Nope. No way. If Matt Patricia doesn’t get a suspension then neither does Jameis. I would love to see Goodell try it. It’s not going to fly, especially after that Zeke debacle. NFL fans will not stand by and let Jameis get railroaded while the white guy gets off scott free.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Dave Pear Says:
May 21st, 2018 at 5:29 pm
The Buc Realist touched me in an inappropriate manner.
I think the Joe’s should ban him for life.
chatte
May 21st, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Dave Pear
I can vouche for realist it was most likely bonzi who touched you inappropriately but he will assume you welcomed it because of some b.s reason
Facts and evidence is irrelevant now
May 21st, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Be careful what you ask for. Time benefits the accused. I don’t know much about the law but I been charged a lot. The more they put it off the better it got for me. Lol.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Wow did Hawaii just agree with me? That’s two beers for you sir!
May 21st, 2018 at 5:45 pm
Reality-is-a-Beotch,
Nope. I’m sure it was Realist. He kept calling me his little Rhonde.
Besides, Bonzai has been molested hundreds of times by anonymous women and loves it.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:46 pm
America’s quarterback will NOT face any discipline as there is NO CASE.
IF there was a case law enforcement would have been notified. They were not.
Since law enforcement was not called, nothing was sent to the State attorneys office to file. Thus NO CRIME COMMITTED.
This is all a ruse to make it appear the NFL is oh so serious in investigating any and all improprieties committed by players, coaches etc. Just one big dog and pony show to appease the society hot topic / flavor of the month. At the time this came to light we had a nationwide witch hunt for any man that crossed a line with women, no matter how small the incident (Garrison Keillor) or large (Weinstein Cosby). The NFL has to look tough on these matters.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:47 pm
How about Jim Irsay? 6 games and some chump change. Didn’t his mistress die from overdose? Drugs he gave her?
A black man would do 20 to life. Just for the drugs.
Here’s an easy one. Nfl gets in a fight they’re suspended and fined. NHL gets into a fight they are cheered and put in timeout for 5 mins. Hmmm?! 🤔
May 21st, 2018 at 5:47 pm
I know this gets on our nerves but the simple truth is this is probably a case of no news is good news. There is nothing to discipline!
The ONLY thing they’ve come up with so far is a refusal to follow CBA rules and “report” the incident as required. OK…he’s clearly guilty of failure to report. Big deal. A slap on the wrist…hopefully a reprimand worse case a one game suspension.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:48 pm
DB55 Says:
Wow did Hawaii just agree with me? That’s two beers for you sir!
Debate the greatness of Gerald McCoy, there now you disagree again.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:48 pm
DB55
I hear ya so I’m assuming your pretty excited that the next guys in line for an NFL franchise…I think it’s Charlotte are black. Fastest way to make real change in organizations is to OWN THEM.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:50 pm
GhostofSchiano,
Bringing gas to a fire.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:55 pm
I’m finding a hard time totally believing the theory that some are throwing out there that says the NFL actually won’t do anything here (as there’s nothing to investigate), because they hope the story will just go away. How does that make sense? Wouldn’t the NFL know that Tampa sports media and fans would NEVER let the story die, considering it’s the QB of their favorite team? No matter how long they drag this out, people from Tampa would play the squeaky wheel, asking/writing about Jameis.
May 21st, 2018 at 5:57 pm
Look sheep, I like JW3!!! I hope he is truthful and innocent in all this!!!!! But to say that King Goodell is the bad guy, And it is just something against JW3 is plain false!!!!!! Act like a Man, stay out of trouble, don’t be around those that put him in this position (if that is what happened) its so simple!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 6:01 pm
Fighting is allowed in hockey. All races there get 5 minutes. Apples to Oranges comparison
May 21st, 2018 at 6:05 pm
Pave Dear should not be allowed to use that screen name
May 21st, 2018 at 6:06 pm
This decision was easy and quick because Patricia was Not a part of the NFL when the accusation was made not because of what color he is. Remember when you point your finger at someone for racism there are three more pointed back at you.
May 21st, 2018 at 6:15 pm
SB hit the nail on the head!!!! Exactly the point I made earlier!!!!! Its so simple!!!!!!!
Its another “realist repost” from about 2 hrs ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
May 21st, 2018 at 3:26 pm
Huge difference in circumstances here folks!!!! One was only 1 occasion that happened decades ago, with no other instances in that time.
May 21st, 2018 at 6:25 pm
Not even the commissioner can go back to 1996.
One has nothing to do with the other.
May 21st, 2018 at 6:30 pm
Again realist you are assuming jameis touched her. How can jump on this guy based off accusations. Thats stupid. He is allowed to ride in a uber for christ sake
May 21st, 2018 at 6:47 pm
@Webster
No he is not!!!!! Uber suspended his account, due to an allegation, which he then was negligent to report!!!!!! Which you would think he would have been on the ball considering his past!!!!!!
How many warnings are needed!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even Mr. Derrick Brooks can’t even get thru to this guy!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 7:01 pm
Damn didn’t the NFL said they can’t do nothing or find out anything because it was real court case? So the right thing to do is not suspend Patricia
Now JW is different
May 21st, 2018 at 7:05 pm
Two weeks right after last season for the NFL to let the Panthers defensive coach off clean domestic violence. NFL HATES BUCS. They do all they can for us to lose to higher profiting teams with better fan bases in bigger cities/nationally to make more money. Goodell is hated by and looks too much like Trump for him not to constantly conspiring and covering up things. Will do anything possible to keep Bucs in the NFC South basement.
May 21st, 2018 at 7:07 pm
I still think I’m right. Just have the Glazers declare him eligible. Problem solved. Goodell can p!ss and moan about it all he wants. But I think the Glazers should think about taking this to court, instead and FOR Jameis.
May 21st, 2018 at 7:13 pm
For those talking about how this may be racist regarding the expedited handling of Patricia’s case compared to JW’s, you are correct. No question in my mind that this stinks of racism. I’ll take it a step further. Jameis’s stats since he entered the league deserve positive recognition, yet all that is heard from the mainstream media is negativity regarding JW. Could it be that it is because he is black?
May 21st, 2018 at 7:15 pm
The whole thing made the news 20 years ago. The NFL knew about back then.
That’s why there is no discipline being handed out. It is old news being brought up by a so-called media source again.
May 21st, 2018 at 7:16 pm
cmurda Says:
May 21st, 2018 at 7:13 pm
For those talking about how this may be racist regarding the expedited handling of Patricia’s case compared to JW’s, you are correct. No question in my mind that this stinks of racism. I’ll take it a step further. Jameis’s stats since he entered the league deserve positive recognition, yet all that is heard from the mainstream media is negativity regarding JW. Could it be that it is because he is black?
No
May 21st, 2018 at 7:19 pm
And this has nothing to do with race. Again…Patricia news is 20 years old, and it was publicized back then.
May 21st, 2018 at 7:28 pm
^^ What Bonzai just said ^^
May 21st, 2018 at 7:29 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo thinks the real racism is that the Bucs have no Hispanic players. Pablo thinks our backup QB should be Sanchez or even Heff Garcia. Pablo wanted Hason to move up to pick Will Hernandez. Instead he picked some big white dude from Humboldt State. Pablo does agree, however that Roberto Aguayo should have been cut because he kicked like mierda.”
May 21st, 2018 at 7:30 pm
@The buc realist and others on this feed. Get your head out the sand. The struggle is real and if you never walked it, you can’t talk it. If you have walked it as an imposter, keep your head in the sand. Since JW entered the NFL, he has done everything expected of him on and off the field. One alleged allegation in three years !!! Why is the bar for leadership, hardwork, Great teammate, production is set so high for QB’s like JW but other NFL QB’s the bar is so low you can trip over it? (In My Donald Trump Voice)
May 21st, 2018 at 7:48 pm
@tampatown…. what a bunch of BS it is ALWAYS a race issue with you people. And before you go hollering I’m racist for saying “you people” I’m referring to race baiters. Whether they are white black indian doesn’t matter the nationality.
May 21st, 2018 at 7:58 pm
Alls I cares about is WINNING. Suspnsion or not..Get her done. Tired of my Bucs hiding behind mirrors. We don’t..We can’t …If…..Had we had… Injuries..Don’t y’all think we have run out of excuses? Now its a possible Jameis susprnsion. Who the f.. Cares? Plug in the next man up. WIN Got.ammit!!!!
May 21st, 2018 at 8:01 pm
Lmao
The racists on here calling other people racists lol. The irony.
If you’re too stupid to understand why Patricia’s case was dealt with sooner than the “golden child” then please stop commenting and go back to your coloring book.
Complete idiots on here.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:04 pm
@cmurda
You’re too stupid to be allowed on here. What a moron you are.
But I’m not surprised. Probably a millennial.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:05 pm
Stay classy whoever you are
May 21st, 2018 at 8:10 pm
We are living in era of everything offends and protests. Nothing or no one is safe from it. I’m actually surprised many more have not attacked Winston especially with his past history.Yet Trump is far from being politically correct with offensive actions but was voted to be the leader of our sensitive society. So Ironical.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:13 pm
DB 55 That’s why I love Hockey.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Hey guys. We are all Bucs fans! Let’s just hope or pray for the best and quit trying to find something negative in our lives.
Go Bucs!
AND
GO LIGHTNING!!!!!!
Show the Glazers how a real team should be operated!
May 21st, 2018 at 8:15 pm
SB55 & Webster: Wow. Did you see that? You people. I’m the last person to ever play the race card and am a proud Trump voter and supporter. (Sorry that will probably change the thread to all the other wackos) I just think it doesn’t smell right that Patricia’s case was handled in a hot minute. Maybe now ALL cases should be handled the same way and in the same time frame and stop all the BS
May 21st, 2018 at 8:17 pm
Not my comments but I find these comments to be very true and there’s some back office BS going on in that’s ruining Jameis’ name daily as long as this is dragged out…
On BucsNation:
KfromFLA says:
“Accusations and rumors are the most effective tool at destroying reputations. The longer it hangs out without clarity, the more effective the negative message. This is a tried and true social programing tactic, whether intended or not. With enough time, rumors, and lack of resolution, even the most obvious lie becomes true for most people. It is how we are naturally wired.”
“No matter what the reason is that the NFL is absolutely intentionally delaying resolution to this case, the facts are that every day of inaction is continuously destroying Jameis Winston’s reputation. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I for one can only conclude that this is either the goal or most acceptable outcome.”
May 21st, 2018 at 8:18 pm
On my way to blast Goodell on Twitter.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:24 pm
When the alleged incident happened, the rules were not as such that he had to report it like they are now. Wasn’t that the case with JW. Also, PATRICIA was charged, had 5 witnesses ready ro testify against him, but the lady chose not to show. JW already has a witness that said it didn’t happen. What’s the likelihood JW did nothing but since this was his account, she probably had no clue who the other guys were, she just used him as the focal point. Hmmmmm.
It is peculiar how quiet this case is from all parties. The lady deserves justice and the accused deserve to defend themselves.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:41 pm
Since we’re on the subject of fake racism, Richie Incognito was just released by the Bills.
May 21st, 2018 at 8:47 pm
From what I have gleaned from my readings Incognito is the epitome of a racist without the kill instinct.
May 21st, 2018 at 9:28 pm
It doesn’t take someone with the resources that the NFL has to conduct and complete this type of investigation in a much much more timely manner !!
It is absurd ignorance and and lack of fiduciary respect and responsibility of which Goodell has exercised numerous times in his tenure.
He can bring discipline to the league but let not this be confused with his blatant and absurd King / Ruler Mentality that forgets the fans . Which by the way creates the value , which by the way nobody says team x is now worth 2 billion but would be worth 2.2 billion if the league handled things better . In Theory Everyone is so happy with the 2 billion number King Jack Ass Goodell gets a pass on the 200 million !!! Fraternity!!! Well the Glazers have a slam dunk case for big millions but do they dare rock the fraternity like JJones has attempted but thought better !!! Could you imagine the courts getting ahold of the inner league emails of Roger and Staff a group that thinks they are untouchable !!! I would guess that would be interesting to say the least !!
The NFL is living through rules and tax breaks and public funding that almost no other Billionaires or any businesses are afforded and maybe just maybe one day they will be put in their place !! Especially since Goodell as well as some players are Equally entitled and fail to respect nor show much appreciation for who, how and why they are employed !!!
How many players in the NFL know the the amount of bonds or taxpayer money being floated per year on a tax free basis ( which isn’t free by the way) so their team can play in that city !!! Might be a piece of information each team should pass on to their players and maybe just maybe this would reduce the entitlement that starts at the top with Good ole Roger !!!
I Love football but I hate entitled brats like Goodell and I assure this nation wouldn’t miss a beat with out the NFL
Just a Thought lol
May 21st, 2018 at 9:41 pm
The uber investigation
May 21st, 2018 at 10:23 pm
Can’t we all just get along……Go Yankees….I mean Bucs
May 21st, 2018 at 10:33 pm
Kobe&Kobe did some research and a quick investingation from some people i know that are connected with this matter…
Nfl was waiting for the sale of the carolina panthers to finalize
The owners have there annual meeting this week. They will approve the new owner and soon will announce jerry richardson ruling soon after.
Both Richardson and jameis investigation is different but still similar in its sexual matter
Both rulings have to jive together. The NFL is very careful and taking there time because these 2 rulings have to be consistant…
We are talking about a white owner and a black player both under the same NFL umbrella….
Yes the players union is ready to jump in and make a stink if a blk player ruling is unjust vs a white owner
Kobe&Kobe
“For the Posters”
May 21st, 2018 at 10:47 pm
Kobe
U forgot to mention the NFL Network employees getting accused and a couple of them are HOFers
Im interested to see what happens with them vs jw case.
May 21st, 2018 at 10:52 pm
SPBF
Lol, in all sincerity there wasn’t one poc that believed sissy SEAN combs and Stephan curry had a chance to buy that team. It was sold to David Temper, your a-typical nfl owner.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/who-is-david-tepper-carolina-panthers-new-owner-new-worth/1s4hzdet5kwp81qmq2ckjz0hf1
May 21st, 2018 at 10:53 pm
Didn’t mean to right sissy it auto-corrected diddy
May 21st, 2018 at 11:02 pm
@ realist
You are crazy. His account was not suspended until AFTER the accusation. BEFORE then, he could ride in a uber. It was HIS account. There is no law against that bird brain. And again, im not going to jump on jameis because he did what every responsible person does and get a uber or downtowner. Jumping on jameis for an accusation is crazy. Again if he goes to busch gardens like every other family man and another white chick says he groped her, im going to need evidence once again. And im defintely not going to say the bs you are on.
May 22nd, 2018 at 4:01 am
1. forgot where it was mentioned but this is classic Goodell … zero consistency in how he governs… he sees how the public reacts to an issue and reacts accordingly … race had nothing to do with it only a big story for the media because it was linked to their media darling patriots
May 22nd, 2018 at 8:37 am
Perhaps Darby has a lawyer who has advised him NOT to reveal the name of the alleged 3rd person in the vehicle and for this reason the investigation continues. If there was a 3rd person in the vehicle as alleged why not reveal just who this person was whereas this matter can proceed to conclusion. All this time and yet that person has not been identified. Makes you wonder as to just where the truth is as Darby is the same friend who stuck up for Winston at Florida State.
May 22nd, 2018 at 8:41 am
Man white men just can’t see racistem when it happens I think they know they just don’t care cause they don’t have to deal with it like blacks. So y’all just turn a blind eye to it .Just like kap he protest police brutality and most of y’all made it about the flag . So I know y’all not going to say racistem with Winston even if it is.
May 22nd, 2018 at 10:22 am
ONEILBUC
*SOME white men*
-White guy who speaks out against racism
May 22nd, 2018 at 10:37 am
Nope. . . something is up for sure.
This should have been a 3-4 week investigation.
It should have been relatively easy to determine who was in the car and where they were sitting. Was there a 3rd guy – did Jameis ever corroborate the 3rd person story??? I dont remember.
The fact that we have not heard a word yet is troubling to say the least.
My guess might be they have most of the evidence for a suspension but they are making an ironclad case to put forward – much like the zeke investigation in that they took their time (i am not comparing the 2 cases here – just how the investigation was thorough) The fact that the reporting clause for personal conduct has changed and was slightly different at the time of the alleged incident makes it a bit more difficult for the NFL.
Taking this long just looks like something bad is coming
just sayin
May 22nd, 2018 at 11:40 am
I’m sick and tired of white man bashing. That is also racism.
May 22nd, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Marc that’s what I mint . And when they do they get talked about just like the blacks people do. They call them names , and they say they apologizing for being white cause when they point at something n say that’s wrong when they don’t care what color the person is even if the guy or women is black . Right is right wrong is wrong it shouldn’t matter the color of the person. If a cop beats up or shoot a white or black or brown person after they comply with the cops it’s wrong those are the true Americans in this country. But sadly a lot of white people don’t believe that n that’s the real problem in this country!!!!!!!!