Jameis: “Workin’ On My Toes”
April 4th, 2018
Work. Work. Work.
It’s the way of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. It’s awesome and admirable, but it also dredges up negativity.
While Jameis sets the work-ethic standard for the Buccaneers, skeptics wonder why he struggles with ball security and other correctable mistakes when he’s constantly striving to improve and is known for his football IQ.
It’s a fair question. Jameis fumbled six times as a rookie, 10 times as a second-year player, and 15 times last year in 13 starts and just under 12 games of total action.
Still, Jameis is 24 years old and his ceiling is limitless. And all that work should pay off to pull him out of the ranks of average NFC quarterbacks.
This offseason is no exception with Jameis grinding out two-a-day workouts in Tampa on his free time and working with private trainers on the little things.
In the video below, which seems to have been released by Jameis’ marketing team, he talks about working on his toes and hips this winter, and more.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:07 pm
small hands is hard to overcome
April 4th, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Just please stay healthy my lord.
Better pass pro + less deep drops and a better run game should help with the fumbling. Also someone pointed out he took a lot more sacks to end the year but was fumbling less – likely meaning he’s trying to work on it. Or that the O-line injuries were really effecting pass pro lol
April 4th, 2018 at 12:13 pm
In my opinion, he’s trying too hard. I think all of this hard work and practice will pay off, but he needs to calm down mentally on game day. When Fitz filled in for him you could see how calm he was, how he controlled the huddle, the line and the offense so effortlessly and when Jamies returned you could see that wore off on him.
As he gets older and with Fitz mentoring him another year I think he will improve a lot this season. I also thing Godwin needs to be on the field more than Djax.
It’s just a crying shame that they can’t give him just a little peace of mind by giving him a defense that isn’t the worst in the NFL to have his back. That alone will screw up the head of a young QB knowing the game will be put on him to win every Sunday
April 4th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
He must protect the football,the fumbles have gone up every year and that needs to be the focus.fumbles=losses=NFL. This isn’t college,you turn the ball over in the pro’s you will lose!
April 4th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Certainly can not criticize Jameis’s work ethic …if it pays off on the field…Jameis will be payed like a KING off the field…he needs a big step up correcting his mistakes and an even bigger step up in big passing plays…deep balls…hitting WR’s in stride for YAC’s…and timing throws to the spot
April 4th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Jameis: “Workin’ On My Toes”
Did Jameis develop a speech sediment ?
April 4th, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Get him a decent running game and a lot of those mistakes disappear. He makes some bad decisions because the entire offense has been focused on the passing game.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Toes? No. TU-A in TWO-OH!
April 4th, 2018 at 12:23 pm
How about Koetter gives him more 3 step drops to get the ball out quicker.
Less chance of fumbling.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:25 pm
I don’t think small hands have been a problem for him at all. His fumbles were a result of his shoulder injury last year, not his hands.
The only thing I’m worried about with Winston is Goodell.
Jameis is a gunslinger. That means he comes with certain habits that are going to be hard to break, if they ever can be broken. But that doesn’t mean he cannot be a Hall of Famer some day. Plenty of gunslingers have been HoFers…with the same habits.
Personally, I think he is more like Favre than any other QB of the past.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
love 3
I dont think he will ever be a top 5 QB but I’m glad he is our QB
April 4th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
anybody who is trying to evaluate Jameis without acknowledging that a young QB’s 2 best support systems – a running game and a defense – were dead last in the league last year is doing the kid a tremendous disservice. Sure there are QBs who can turn a 2-win roster into a division champ and more, but then there’s also the reality of the other 99.5% of quarterbacks who play in the NFL.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:34 pm
AlteredEgo Says:
April 4th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Jameis: “Workin’ On My Toes”
Did Jameis develop a speech sediment ?
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This is my favorite kind of insult. The kind where the one talking crap makes himself look like a damn fool.
Sediment – Matter that settles to the bottom of a liquid.
Impediment – A hindrance or a defect in a person’s speech, such as a lisp or stammer.
I think you might have a brain impediment there Altered.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:34 pm
i also think play design and selection was rightly harped on last season, and i hope the Monken promotion makes a difference there. this is not to let Jameis off the hook, but i do think his apparent football IQ and “pro ready” mindset discouraged his coaches from setting the table for him the way goff and mariota’s coaches (as an example) have.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:38 pm
I see what this young man could be! I just have not seen his full potential game in and game out ..we need a good running game folks! Jameis is really good at those play action passes and with a good mix and time in this league jameis can do some damage to other teams… I want to see him fix his bad decisions and better ball placement on SOME throws, I say some because there are times where his passes are in a fantastic spot and if he does that we are in for a treat
April 4th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Add Nelson in the 1st for the inside line next to Jensen and Marpet and get a good RB in rd 2 – then watch how much “better” Winston looks in 2018….
April 4th, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Well I would say his fumbles last year are a product of being hurt and the fact that hit QB hits have gone up every year! He has been hit at this point in his career over 60 times more than Andrew luck at this point in his career and look at Luck now. How about we get him a line that doesn’t have him running for his life and a good running game. The line is starting to take shape, now we just need that dog at RB. You’d be shocked at how the fumbles drop off.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Favre, Moon, Elway, Manning, Brady, Marino
All in top ten for career fumbles as a QB. Ill take that company.
Jameis keeps his head downfield always looking to make a play. Thus, he fumbles a lot.
That same trait, however, has led to 69 tds in first three years. Also placing him among the above superstars in that category.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Pick 6….u nailed it….he needs a running game and a halfway decent defense to become a winner…..
As far as his fumbles……..most of them are caused by Jameis’ competitive nature….he simply doesn’t like to give in….throw the ball away…..take the sack…..Jameis actually makes our Oline look better than it is….
I don’t know if you can coach that out of him….this is something he must learn as he matures…..one day, hopefully the light will turn on and he will realize….there is another down coming…..
April 4th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
I have said it before and I will say it again if he just continues to do what he has done his first 3 years he is on a HOF pace as a QB. That being said he has gotten better every year and will likely continue to get better, that is why I find the posters like Altered, for example, who constantly rip him and act like we need to replace him ridiculous. Again look at his numbers and tell me he is not on pace to be in the HOF. All people want to talk about is wins and losses well news flash he is also clutch, which is all he can control, check out these numbers below of how good he was in the 2nd half of games last year which is winning time!!!
Half Att Comp Pct Yds Avg Lng TD Int 20+ QB Rate
1st 229 142 62.0 1,689 7.4 70 5 5 15 82.7
2nd 213 140 65.7 1,815 8.5 43 14 6 17 102.5
April 4th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
We draft Nelson who is not only considered a generational talent at Guard. He is also considered to be a really mean nasty guy…that will line up perfectly next to our new mean nasty Center and Ali on the right is no choirboy either.
So the interior of our offensive line suddenly has a ton of ‘tude!!!
Jameis will love that since he also likes to fight DL and punch at DB’s LOL.
Meanwhile Barber is a big, bruising runner behind those three nasty boys…we draft Guice another big bruiser with a nasty disposition at 225 lbs he does not shy away from contact.
We would have a team with a half dozen top passing targets…a franchise QB…and a pound the rock running game.
We always talk about our identity…this lineup could go for something unusual…BALANCE. What a concept.
April 4th, 2018 at 12:57 pm
“Workin on my Toes? …Camel Toe?”
“Is this a self implication admission statement? Can this thread on JBF be used as evidence for perjury against Jameis in the Uber case?”
Kobe Faker
April 4th, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Now this is a player that will take us to the promise Land and so happy he is a Buc. Definitely a top 5-10 Qb today. Get him a run game and defense so we can enjoy the fruits.
April 4th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Eric
Those were some loong careers…Jameis just trying to overachieve and get the record in five years??
April 4th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
His fumbles were a result of his shoulder injury last year, not his hands.
sorry but you cant blame 15 fumbles on an injury……he had 10 the year before….was he injured then?……
as much as I love Winston, his fumbles are a result of him not focusing on protecting the football…..he has to get better with his pocket awareness…..
improving his pocket awareness will allow him to protect the football and escape pressure…..
dirk could help WINSTON and the oline out with the play calling too!!!!!….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 4th, 2018 at 1:08 pm
I usually bash, but whether it’s Joe or JW…nice to hear it quiet and no BS every other day…..if thats an outside stupid thing, to raging about how great they’ll be or making excuses.
the silence is music to my ears.
April 4th, 2018 at 1:09 pm
Lets play a little game today: Who’s numbers are these below and if they were the Bucs QB in the first 3 years of their career would you be happy?
Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Sck QB Rate
1427 871 60.6 32.5 11431 7.9 259.1 98 6.9 44 2.9 41 96.3
April 4th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
@ndog
Looks like Dan Marino to me based on the yards. IDK about the other stats though.
April 4th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
Kobe !…….Bwahahahahahaha
April 4th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
I think if he’d wear a glove on his non-throwing hand he’d reduce the number of times he fumbles by a bunch, any else agree?
April 4th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
You are correct sir, nice job BTW, so now lets see how our own 3rd year starting QB compares.
So Comp% is better (but I thought Jameis isn’t accurate right Altered?), More yards, less TD’s by a lot, same number of picks but with a slightly lower %, but Jameis has been sacked 54 MORE times than Marino and still put up similar numbers to one of the greatest of all time. But you guys are right we need to get a new QB. SMH
Dan Marino
Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Sck QB Rate
1427 871 60.6 32.5 11431 7.9 259.1 98 6.9 44 2.9 41 96.3
Jameis Winston
Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Sck QB Rate
1544 939 60.8 34.3 11,636 7.5 258.6 69 4.5 44 2.8 95 87.2
April 4th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Woot! Not that I am baching JW, I think he is literally the best Bucs QB I have ever seen play, but the yards are a little misleading. Yes JW has about 200 more yards, but he also attempted 117 more passes than Marino (that also explains why he has more sacks somewhat).
Either way, I’m glad JW is our QB. Even if he isn’t the next Brady/Marino/Favre, not needing to draft a QB opens up so many opportunities in the draft every year. Even if our QB is average, he is still a very capable starter (and the last capable starter we had back there took us to a Super Bowl).
April 4th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
He’s putting in the work ….he will get better …BUILD A TEAM AROUND THIS MAN …and keep building year after year and he’ll keep working…it’s what he knows!!!
April 4th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
bashing*
April 4th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
JUST two-a-days?? What a wuss!
-Ray Perkins
April 4th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
At this point the turnovers are way overblown the majority of the turnovers are because he is single-handedly trying to win a game . when you are constantly in third and eight in third and 12 and you’re a gamer you are going to have the high number of turnovers .When you are in third and eighth and third and 12 all the time with a slightly below average protection package and receivers running long route trees you are going to have an accelerated amount of turnovers . When you were constantly behind after the first quarter and no you have absolutely no running game and you must single-handedly create big plays to have a chance at winning and you’re a gamer like a Brett Farve ,you’re going to have an expanded amount of turnovers . I would easily put half of .turnovers on the coaching staff and the assembling of the offense of line and running game versus the quarterback ,Who in this case is going to try and win every game at all costs by extending plays , making tight window throws, making superhero plays , Holding the Ball !!! You want a robotic conservative quarterback that throws everything away , well you had better get a better offensive line and a better running game and those one score games last year would probably have been two or three score games that were lost .Remember many of his turnovers are being hit from behind he’s doing nothing different than numerous under other quarterbacks besides he’s down 10 points at the half and has no running game plus a defense that can’t stop anybody so if he doesn’t stay on the field it’s virtually A guarantee that points are going to be put up against him and that’s just the simple math. At this point the quarterback is not the problem nor should the coaching staff in anyway make him think that he is !!! Just one more tidbit when he can step up in the pocket and throw which if you pay attention he really can’t, he will get better on his deep balls ; is he ever going to be great ? I don’t know , but on his deep balls the offense of line is normally collapsing hard and be in Pushed into his follow-through , he is definitely the type of thrower that must be able to stride into a deep ball .
April 4th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Dirk’s dumbass playcalling caused 2/3 of those fumbles. He left JW out to dry way too often.
April 4th, 2018 at 2:24 pm
We need a Def more than running game. IMO. There were a few games the team would have won if not for the Def giving up game winning drives
April 4th, 2018 at 2:27 pm
Isaac
well thought out.. But he does lose a lot of balls doing boneheaded things too……
April 4th, 2018 at 3:02 pm
What’s with the gloves on the throwing drills? Hopefully he’s not considering wearing gloves this season.
The only fumbles that I’m concerned with are the ones he makes while falling in the dirt still trying to make a play out of nothing. The other fumbles were strip sacks and plays where he was hit while in the pocket attempting to throw, those are tougher to correct. In those situations either he held the ball too long or the offensive linemen missed a block and allowed the qb to get blindsided.
April 4th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Water boy and j Mark , I agree totally and he’s the type of player that may always have a few of those but I got a believe when the running game, the protection and the defense are vastly improved ,he will correct most of those by himself .
April 4th, 2018 at 3:42 pm
I LOVE MY QB!!!!
April 4th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Winston’s high ftball IQ was not as high as Mariota’s at the combine
April 4th, 2018 at 4:41 pm
@Ben
The wonderlic is not a measure of Football intelligence or ability.
Perfect example. Frank Gore scored a 6 on the test but is a football savant who went on to have a tremendous career.
At lest Jameis has never thrown for less TD’s than picks in a season like Mariota did last year.
April 4th, 2018 at 4:51 pm
Get this guy a decent running game to compliment our weapons and watch him become a top 5 QB in this league…I think there was another QB that owns a gold jacket and a SB ring or two that had TO issues his entire career and lives in Mississippi…it’s not the mistakes you make, it’s how you recover from them!!!
April 4th, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Can’t wait till he actually reaches his peak and proves the haters wrong…still only 24 people…most guys would be going into their second year…Winston is ahead of schedule just needs to stay healthy and a little better protection…oh and not to mention just a threat of a run game might help
April 4th, 2018 at 7:15 pm
I mentally kick myself everytime I read a Kobe or Tmax post. Thankfully half of my kicking is over for a few months with Tmax gone.
April 4th, 2018 at 9:19 pm
@jmarkbuc
My point is that many of the best quarterbacks to ever play this game also fumbled a lot.
Mr. Favre for example.
April 4th, 2018 at 9:47 pm
Ndog and Ohio,
If the two era’s were comparable to each other then you can make the case for JW being on the path to the hall. But that’s not the case.
Two completely different era’s, two completely different bars set. DM was the league’s MVP in his first full season and set the bar, use, for years to come. JW isn’t even in the conversation when MVP is discussed.
That’s not a knock on JW, nor Dan Marino. It’s just that what DM did hasn’t been approached by JW let alone equaled. Yes the stats are similar, but that’s so lazy and misdirected as to be almost of zero value because of context. If you think you can lose context and have a legitimate comparison then there’s a huge problem.
April 4th, 2018 at 9:57 pm
Maybe he put too much butter on the pregame crab legs meals?
April 4th, 2018 at 10:44 pm
I am not comparing JW to Marino. He is not as good as Marino.
That was the most incredible quarterbacking I have ever witnessed.
But he is damn good for this stage in his development. Remember Dan Marino came into a Miami team that had been in the super Bowl the year before he was drafted.
Jameis is on a team that hasn’t done squat in ten years. With no Don Shula.
Just asking for a litttle context from the JW haters.
April 5th, 2018 at 12:29 am
Eric,
Well said.
I think some of detractors of JW are ridiculous, as is some of the supporters.
I don’t know why it’s so difficult to see both the plus and minus sides of his play.
It’s as hard taking anyone seriously who actually believes that the stats
comparisons between the two represents JW is , presently, on par with DM. As it is listening to those who believe that JW is a bust and will not get better as the team improves.
The anti Jameis contingent appears to be split into 2 groups. One group is always going to be against Him no matter how good He plays. The other side is fans who want Him to succeed but point out His turn overs and inconsistent play as aspects of his game that they believe needs to improve before the team can enjoy consistent success.
The first group, f them. A shield made of stupidity is impervious to facts, reason and logic.
The second group often gets lumped into the first or dismissed by some as mariota lovers. The mariota thing is or seems to be a distraction thrown out there in an effort to dismiss the real criticisms of JW’s game.
April 5th, 2018 at 10:15 am
Eric
I had forgotten all about that strike shortened 1982 SB Redskins vs Dolphins.