Ira Talks Vernon Hargreaves, Will Gholston, Firm Survival Win Totals For Licht & Koetter, Charles Sims Mystery, Tom Coughlin Chat, And Much More

March 29th, 2018

Another broadcast recorded the NFL Owners Meetings following a chat with Jason Licht, Tom Coughlin and time to soak in all the Buccaneers chatter at the annual NFL event. Dial up the Ira Kaufman podcast right here, or enjoy at iTunes, Google Play or Ranked on the Google Play podcast “Top Charts” for nearly SIX consecutive months (all genres nationwide), the Ira Kaufman Podcast keeps you informed and entertained every Tuesday & Thursday — and there is NO offseason. Click or download above. It’s fun — free and easy, too. Enjoy!

21 Responses to “Ira Talks Vernon Hargreaves, Will Gholston, Firm Survival Win Totals For Licht & Koetter, Charles Sims Mystery, Tom Coughlin Chat, And Much More”

  1. Buc Fresh Says:

    Love how Ira droppes the mic. Thanks guys for another great podcast

  2. bucs_365 Says:

    D3Kemper still wearing his stupid badge proudly with his idiotic CB development horseshyte. They haven’t had much to work with. Hargreaves issues go back to him. Smith was in his first year as CB. Javien Elliot is nobody.

    My advice to D3Kemper would be to take a few podcasts off from the CB coaching horseshyte and pretend for a moment that Licht, Koetter, and Mike Smith have a better idea of what’s going on with the CB situation than he does… Just, for the sake of temporarily seeming open minded, shut it for a while.

  3. bucs_365 Says:

    SO now we delete messages if they don’t match the narrative?
    There’s no narrative. Posts are deleted if they are malicious in nature and/or use cut and paste copyrighted material of significant length. Also, posts are often deleted that include links. –Joe

  4. Joe Says:

    Joe’s advice to you 365, you try to get around the spam filter again you will be banned. Again.

    Feel free to document in great detail how Hargreaves, Smith or Elliott have improved since being drafted.

    Joe will hang up and listen

  5. bucs_365 Says:

    So, Jon Hoke has developed players before. Joe doesn’t cut and paste significant copyrighted material here. Maybe a 100 words max and a link or direct attribution.–Joe

    If we had some real talent at CB, we’d see some better results.

    Also, worth remembering, and also mentioned in the podcast, was how the terrible Bucs O-line was blamed on Warhop in his first year. Then they drafted some talent for him, and voila – the buffoons aren’t calling for his head anymore. Probably the same deal with Hoke/Maxie. It might also help that there will be some semblance of a pass rush this year.

    Also, the idea that the franchise should not add top-end CB talent because D3Kemper has make an irrational judgement on the coaches is probably one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on this website. Completely senseless.

  6. bucs_365 Says:

    admin Says:
    March 29th, 2018 at 4:07 pm

    Joe’s advice to you 365, you try to get aroundpam filter you will be banned. Again.

    I’m not sure what you mean about getting around the spam filter… Seriously, what are you talking about?

  7. bucs_365 Says:

    admin Says:
    March 29th, 2018 at 4:07 pm

    Feel free to document in great detail how Hargreaves, Smith or Elliott have improved since being drafted.

    Elliot wasn’t drafted… You seem to think he should be a player. Not reasonable.

    Smith was drafted in the 4th round as a raw prospect. Spent first year at safety because they needed a body there. No, he spent the first year at safety because the coaches and GM believed he was a safety prospect. He was mis-evaluated. They determined midway through that season, after training camp, that he was not a safety and put him back at cornerback in practice.–Joe
    he has some size, and he had played some safety in college. Then he goes to CB, his first year there as a pro and it’s a little rough — big surprise — he played at a small school, and is really just learning CB at the NFL level. Maybe all he’ll be is a backup player as he learns the position at the NFL level. That’s nothing to be ashamed of. And NFL 4th rounder who goes into his 4th season still trying to improve is not a surprise. And there’s no indication that coaching has fouled him up.

    Hargreaves is the only one of the 3 that you could reasonably use a case study… And there’s no proof that his disappointing play was because of coaching. There were plenty of questions about him coming out. We don’t know what is going on with him.

    If you’re asking me if they’ve developed anybody, I’ll agree that they haven’t (at CB anyway). But I’m not sure they’ve had the talent to develop.

  8. Joe Says:

    Seriously, what are you talking about?

    Right. Is that why you purposely misspell words, often using a numeral?

  9. Joe Says:

    You are making Joe’s point, thank you.

  10. Knucknbuc Says:

    Gotta side with 365 on this one Joe. Why all the Ryan Smith hate? Guy was from a small school and his first year at corner. I think he showed a lot of talent. He has better measurables then vh3 imo and comparing rookie year I’d say Smith was better then vh3. What did he have 4? 5? Forced fumbles last year. A bunch of tackles not his fault or dline was garbage and Mike Smith puts him on an island against guys like Julio his rookie year!!! Vh3 I’ll give you but I personally think that’s Jason’s fault for drafting a slow small corner in the first round anyway. And everyone else are just guys you should really have no expectation for.

  11. SteveK Says:

    For one Joe Ryan Smith is the new Charles Sims lol

  12. Bob Higginbotham Says:

    Little improvement in Lee’s encroachment on Ira’s flow! Hopefully Lee will learn better how to contribute without upstaging Ira’s wisdom!

  13. bucs_365 Says:

    Joe Says:
    March 29th, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    You are making Joe’s point, thank you.


    If that’s what you took from Joe’s post, then you read maybe 1 sentence and ignored the rest. You seem to lack a basic understanding of rationality. You may say that we have no proof that these coaches have developed players… Well, if you look at their bios, they have good track records coaching productive NFL players. That’s clear. Also, you have no proof that the underperformance of our DBs had anything to do with their coaching. It’s at least as reasonable to conclude that we just don’t have the talent there… In fact, to think that’s not the PRIMARY reason for the troubles there is completely irrational. VH3 is small and slow, and he’s the only guy with pedigree of any kind – the only high pick… If you wanna go to safety, Justin Evans looked pretty darn good as a rookie.

    So, to summarize, you’re wrong across the board. The only way we’ll know about these DB coaches is to give them some talent to work with… My guess is that you’ll be eating your words after this season, just like all the haters ate their words once the Bucs got some talent for Warhop to work with.

    Now, if you have some kind of inside information about Hoke and Maxie that might raise questions, we’d all love to hear it… I’m guessing you don’t because you couldn’t even remember that Brett Maxie was the other DB coach during the podcast. I knew his name, and I’m not getting paid to cover the Bucs for a living.

  14. Joe Says:

    Difference is 365, you are looking at history. Joe’s looking at evidence. 0-3 doesn’t give Joe one iota of hope these guys can magically turn things around with a fourth chance.

    George Siefert has a significant history in developing defenders. No one in their right mind would hire him today.

    John Fox did a helluva job developing talent in his past. He’s out of work.

  15. bucs_365 Says:

    admin Says:
    March 29th, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    Difference is 365, you are looking at history. Joe’s looking at evidence. 0-3 doesn’t give Joe one iota of hope these guys can magically turn things around with a fourth chance.

    They’re 0-3…??? Jeezus, that’s just unreasonable. Let’s remember that the rest of the defense was kinda crap too, and we had no pass rush to help with the coverage.

    (1) Elliot. He was a UDFA. You’re expecting magic there? Dude regressed in 2017 from 2016. Simple as that.–Joe
    Verdict: not applicable, no expectations should be placed on UDFAs

    (2) Smith, 1st year as an NFL CB out of a small school, 4th round pick. Again, the regime mis-evaluated him and/or coached him poorly as a safety and moved him to corner midway through 2016. He never played a defensive snap that season. Same regime that thought he was a capable returner, yet he was the worst returner in the NFL in 2016.
    Verdict: incomplete… need another year to see where he’s headed at CB.

    (3) Hargreaves. Disappointment, no doubt. Lacks size and speed, neither of which can be coached. Played well at nickel position.
    Verdict: Incomplete… need to see if he can settle in as a nickel. He was over-drafted and appears to lack some of the necessary physical (maybe even mental) qualities for the outside.

    As I’ve stated before, the most ludicrous point Joe has made is in trying to say that we shouldn’t add elite CB talent because he’s afraid it will be wasted. Just silly and juvenile-level reactionary.

  16. Jeremy Says:

    Lol Joe – 365 owned you. He/she is your new daddy

  17. Joe Says:

    Lol Joe – 365 owned you. He/she is your new daddy

    Really? He never offered any evidence the three corners in question have improved. How about you taking a swing? Joe’s open-minded if you can provide evidence these three actually improved. Even a little bit.

    Here’s another hint for you: Koetter has already declared Hargreaves a nickel corner. Joe can promise you Jason Licht never drafted a guy No. 11 overall to be a nickel corner.

  18. Knucknbuc Says:

    Joe take the L and move own Jeremy is right at this point. All of them 3 dudes were my sent here or didn’t have the physical requirements to meet your lofty expectations right off the bat.

  19. tnew Says:

    I have to say this.. the dialogue two years after VHIII draft is so different than it is now. First off lets just look at Koetter’s quote in rookie minicamp:

    ““Well, his quickness and how good of a tackler he is (make him suited to play inside),” Koetter said. “We’re going to start him off both inside and outside. We’re – both with the vets and the rooks – trying to find that perfect nickel and he’s one of the guys we’re looking at for sure.””

    Sure like nickel/slot was in Koetter’s mind on day 1. This was not unusual. I could post loads of scouting reports that projected him, due to his size, length, speed and agility combination, as a slot corner (which is essentially a starter in today’s NFL). I saw pre-draft indications that he could reach Pro Bowl level in that slot. Just because “Fans” don’t like a slot guy drafted at 11, doesn’t mean he isn’t a slot guy.

  20. BucEmUp Says:

    No corners that they draft will do well here Mike Smith needs to be fired. I’m already looking forward to the 2019 season

  21. The Buc Realist Says:

    LOL!!!! D3K3mper just wants to fire the coaches so bad!!!!!!! As one who has a terrible track record in player evaluation, I can only hope that joebucs hires a former NFL player and make him president to help in this clear weakness!!!!!!!!! By next year, we will hear how the pass rush helped the secondary and some local media will say nothing of the coaches!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!