Doug Martin Joins Chucky In Oakland

March 15th, 2018

Embraced by the Raiders

Frankly, Joe’s simply posting a picture and a few words here about this accurate nonsense.

Good luck, Doug Martin, who returns to his hometown Raiders at 29 years old.

Good luck, Chucky, whose film study of Martin over the past two years must have been accompanied by consumption of hallucinogens.

127 Responses to “Doug Martin Joins Chucky In Oakland”

  1. bucsfaninchina Says:

    Let’s see what the dougernaut can do with a legit offensive line whose local media doesn’t have to lie about how good they are

  2. stevek Says:

    Good luck, Doug!

    I wish we cut ties with you last year so we could have made a sweet offer to Calais Campbell.

    I hope your demons are gone, and you do well!

    Thanks for 2 good years out of 6. .333 would be a solid batting average, but not solid for a NFL RB’s productivity.

  3. DB55 Says:

    I got my Raiders app downloaded. I’ll waste a year watching Gruden. Better than watching this chit show. Damn shame too.

    #Boycott2018

  4. Mike Johnson Says:

    Laugh all you like Joe..and fellow Buc fans. But just sit back and watch Chucky turn Martin into a very productive running back again. Yes, sometimes..it is the coach!

  5. AKick'nTheBucNuts Says:

    They will soon find out that the “Muscle Hamster” has turned into an “Emotional Support Hamster”.

  6. OneBucPerson Says:

    Good for him, I hope he turns his career around for the Raiders and supplements Lynch.

  7. AlteredEgo Says:

    Running left behind Donald Penn~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  8. Howard Cosell Says:

    I don’t know Joe.
    Get him away from the epic dysfunctional environment
    into a tightly structured Chucky environment and he may explode.

    Lol….Calling it now: DOug Nartin will run wild under Chucky who
    will look like a genius and further drive home the point that the
    glazers are fundamentally bad people

  9. Howard Cosell Says:

    *Martin

  10. Joe Blahak Says:

    Jason McCourty was cut loose….SIGN HIM!

  11. bucsfaninchina Says:

    The Glazers are bad people. They host fundraisers for the cheeto in chief

  12. Wesley Says:

    He’ll be yet another ex buc doing great elsewhere.

  13. BringBucsBack Says:

    He will have a resurgence if he can receive his hand-off’s before a defense tackle, unlike his last two years here in Tampa.

  14. mark2001 Says:

    Good luck to Drug rehab Martin…a guy that played mostly below his potential, that rarely found the motivation to play up to his potential. Hope he can avoid the addiction pitfalls he fell into here, and he has a good life. But from here on, it is “Doug who”?

  15. Wesley Says:

    Bucsfaninchina is 100% right.

  16. mark2001 Says:

    BTW…just shows that Licht and Koetter is running a three ring circus here. Time to clean the dung from the punchbowl, and for the Glazer clowns to sell the team to owners that have a clue to what it takes to build a good football team.

  17. stevek Says:

    Mike Johnson,

    Martin may rebound, but he should have been cut before last year. He is selfish and had a problem that led to his suspension. Martin had $7 million reasons not to be a sh!thead, but was and it likely cost us the salary cap resources to pursue Calais Campbell.

    Martin should have been cut. Why pay him $7 milliion to sit out 3 games, and then give us 2.9 ypc. Disgraceful.

  18. Howard Cosell Says:

    They’re bad people in that they’re the dictionary definition of “carpet-bagger”. Their long term plan has always been the London Buccaneers, which explains perfectly the last 16 years of suck.

    Either that or they have no clue how to run an NFL franchise.
    Howard will bet on the former.

  19. NFLNut Says:

    2.9 YARDS AND A CLOUD OF DUST … JUST WHAT THE RAIDERS NEED …

  20. Lucious Selmon Says:

    OneBucPerson Said:
    Good for him, I hope he turns his career around for the Raiders and supplements Lynch.
    ——————————

    Hahahahaha. You said “supplements!” (DRUG MARTIN, get it?)

    Lynch said, “No, thank you. This is all whey protein.”

  21. Eric Says:

    Nobody thought Antonio Bryant, Joel Galloway, or Ike Hilliard had anything left
    either.

    And nobody thought Rich Gannon was a superstar till Chucky coached him.

    Chucky is the master of resurrecting NFL players. Martin will likely play very well.

  22. Rod Munch Says:

    He will get over 1100 yards and over 4.5 yards per carry and dummies here will say he was lazy instead of realizing Dirk’s run play calling for most of the year was terrible and the offensive line played like garbage. Gruden LOVES to use a single back as his workhouse, so as long as Martin is healthy, this move will make the Bucs look really dumb.

  23. webster Says:

    Good luck doug. Teach em how to dougie!!!

  24. NFLNut Says:

    I notice a lot of you guys talk about the Bucs moving to London … is there a reason ya’ll think that other than the Glazers own a soccer team in the UK? I really want to know … as honestly I’d love to see a team based on the UK but always just sort of figured it would be the Jaguars as they seem to play a lot of games over there and have no real fan base at all stateside … am I wrong?

    BTW … Jameis would be an icon in the UK if given a chance but that country is so crazy that the fans might demand Colin Kaepernick just so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like wonderfully tolerant lefties …

  25. AlteredEgo Says:

    IMO…Martin is a hard straight ahead runner with little juke….that is fine if you can get past the offensive line….I wish him well…but don’t have any second guesses…it was time to find a new younger RB….

  26. JAB83 Says:

    Heres to I DONT GIVE A BUC!

  27. Buc believer Says:

    Guarantee Doug will have a career year rushing for over 1400 yards for the season and then have 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl for the Raiders win. THAT aid the Bucs luck!

  28. Lucious Selmon Says:

    bucsfaninchina Said:
    The Glazers are bad people. They host fundraisers for the cheeto in chief.
    ————————–

    And Mike Tomlin was hosting fundraisers for the biggest foreign spy in American history (pay for play trailer trash Hitlary), after claiming he doesn’t “do politics.”

    Why bring politics into the house?

  29. OneBucPerson Says:

    @Lucious Selmon That was the joke. Get it? Supplements sound pretty similar to supplants.

  30. miken Says:

    @joe… what do you think about this. Is this just Chucky thinking he can make Martin look good which will make the Bucs look terrible if he is successful?
    What can anyone possibly see that make D mart look like he should be signed… especially this early. I thought Martin would get a slightly better than minimum offer from a team after the draft but on the 2nd day of FA??

  31. Greg Says:

    Jason McCourty released from the Browns. Your thoughts Joe?

  32. Lucious Selmon Says:

    OneBucPerson Said:
    @Lucious Selmon That was the joke. Get it? Supplements sound pretty similar to supplants.
    ——————–

    Man, that’s embarrassing. I thought I was pretty clever for a minute.

    Maybe just a little slow. 🙂

  33. Kansas95Buc Says:

    another bucs player that will go on to have a stellar career……

  34. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    @Joe

    “whose film study of Martin over the past two years must have been accompanied by consumption of hallucinogens.”

    Go ahead and drop the mic that’s the line of the day!

  35. OneBucPerson Says:

    @Lucious Selmon Nah I’m just screwing with you, I meant to write supplant and got it confused with supplement. That was a good joke by you mate!

  36. Eric Says:

    The Glazers are making oodles of money right here.

    Very favorable stadium deal, doesn’t really matter how many folks show up for games with the huge tv $$$.

    I think they actually want to win. But they just cant seem to hire the right people. And now they have butchered it so badly and fired so many coaches and whatnot is hard to see how they could get anybody worth a damn to run and coach the team.

  37. JonBuc Says:

    Chucky hope to resurrect the career of a former Buc outta spite. Probably saw the film of Martin running for 250+ on the Raiders and said “here’s my next Charlie Garner”!

  38. Chris Says:

    Never thought I would ever say this, at least my wife is from Ohio and I can root for the Browns….. this team gives me little hope.

  39. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Is that true BucsFanInChina??? Damn, if so it proves they have horrible judgment and directly ties in to how poorly this franchise has been run since they took over.

  40. AlteredEgo Says:

    Bucs to London ?
    hell the NFL is faltering here in the USA…lots of empty seats and long time every game fans are literally a dying breed…unless you are the Packers or a play off caliber team stadium revenue is sliding….the sport is over hyped and over produced…2 hours pregames with 5 talking heads….Yawn !!!!!!

  41. Eric Says:

    I still have hope as I think Jameis is going to break out this year.

    He was coming on strong at the end of last year. Still young and learning.

  42. Bucsfan1988 Says:

    Panthers just signed DONTARI POE!!! 3 year deal, ughhhhhhhhh 🙁

  43. LakeLand Says:

    With the Raiders OL and Jon Gruden playcalling, the sky is the limit for Dougie

    Go get it Dougie

  44. JonBuc Says:

    Yep…Panthers get Poe and Peppers, Bucs counter with tender white meat. NFC South basement secured yet again.

  45. LakeLand Says:

    Carolina Panthers,

    CB Bashaud Breeland
    DT Dontari Poe
    WR Torrey Smith

  46. SCBucsFan Says:

    AlteredEgo faltering lol. Poor owners aren’t making the billions they were but are still making billions. I wish I had the chance to invest in this failing venture.

  47. bucsfaninchina Says:

    @TouchDownTampaBay

    https://deadspin.com/bucs-and-manchester-united-owner-ed-glazer-will-host-a-1823746166

  48. Greg Says:

    Jensen Has left the building.

  49. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Greg

    Jenson was going to Indy regardless of whether the Bucs offered him a giant deal or not. That was the plan all along.

    Also, all the “fans” ready to jump ship to the Raiders can go right on ahead. We won’t miss you.

  50. AlteredEgo Says:

    Eric “Very favorable stadium deal, doesn’t really matter how many folks show up for games with the huge tv $$$.”….it does make a huge difference …witness Jerry’s World….owners don’t share revenue ,or greatly reduced, stadium generated…team gear….all the incidental stuff…goes directly into their pockets

  51. Destinjohnny Says:

    Watch him lead the league

  52. JimmyJack Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Doug has a nice career in OAK. His drug problem could have been part of his issues. Not saying he didn’t kick his habit just saying I don’t know.

    There’s also a thing called run blocking scheme. There’s no doubt in my mind that Lovie Smith used a better run scheme then Dirk does. You don’t just have Doug Martin as proof of this you may look at Charles Sims numbers as proof too. I would have to think Gruden is a smart enough coach to think that his run scheme will be able to get Doug productive. Or maybe he wants him as a backup.

  53. JimmyJack Says:

    And it ain’t no Tampa thing why we see players leave here and go on to play better elsewhere. Think back to when Dungy and Gruden were here and tell me how many players left and looked like new players? Maybe there’s are cases but I don’t remember any.

    Most of these examples have come since them and their has been one common theme. Poor coaching and a poor culture. These other teams do not have magic in their water. We shall see what happens with Doug but we have already seen ASJ get kicked to the curb only to start to revitalize his career. My guess is Sims has a very productive year if he moves on too.

  54. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “There’s no doubt in my mind that Lovie Smith used a better run scheme then Dirk does”

    Ton of doubt in mine. Dirk was the one who pounded the table to keep Martin after he sucked in 2014 under a different coordinator. He then had his best season of the last 3 in 2015.

    DIrk was a solid OC in 2015. His playcalling in 16/17 hasn’t been as good/creative/well timed in comparison as a head coach. He used a lot of screens in 15′ primarily with Sims and a lot of things in general to keep defenses off balance. I’d like to see him getting back to that form this year with more creativity in how he disgueses what he’s going to do from each formation and in general getting the run game going

  55. tmaxcon Says:

    love gruden but he is going to fail the same way that he did in tampa with his love of senior citizens and has beens. that will blow up in his face. if you can’t develop young players you will not succeed and gruden has proven more than anyone he can’t develop players. these soft arse politically correct players are going to tire of gruden fast but he got paid.

  56. NFLNut Says:

    KAWANN SHORT, DONTARI POE, VERNON BUTLER

    GMC, BEAU ALLEN, MITCH UNREIN

    SEE A DIFFERENCE? I DO!

  57. mark2001 Says:

    tmax…but if they can win a SB before it hits the fan, I’d bet fans in Oakland will be happy with it.

  58. NFLNut Says:

    When the Panthers lost Lotulelei and Worley I was happy … they replaced and UPGRADED them with Breeland and Poe and added Torrey Smith to improve their passing game as well … ugh

  59. tmaxcon Says:

    GMC, BEAU ALLEN, MITCH UNREIN

    a POS quitter and 2 nobodys

  60. NFLNut Says:

    GRUDEN???????? WHAT IS HE DOING???????

    He lets Autry go and then signs Doug Martin?

    He lets Crabtree go to sign the washed up Jordy Nelson to $7.5mil per?

    UM … DOES HE THINK IT’S STILL 2012?

  61. mark2001 Says:

    tmax.. what a way for the Oakland fans to wave goodbye to the Oakland franchise as they move to Vegas.

  62. unbelievable Says:

    1st comment nailed it.

  63. tmaxcon Says:

    mark2001

    i get that but do not get that. i rather build a consistent winner versus a ONE and DONE pretender… We have been there and done that… would you not rather people hating the bucs for consistently winning versus the current state of irrelevance.

  64. mark2001 Says:

    Nut…Nelson isn’t “washed up”. He left the Packers because he wouldn’t take a pay cut and they had a problem with too many good receivers and not enough money to go around. When healthy, Nelson can play as well as Mike Evans, for a year anyway… and last year he was coming off of a major injury.

  65. NFLNut Says:

    Panthers gave Poe $9mil per … Allen & Catanzaro cost $8.3mil per

    I think Licht feels good though and is probably thinking, “stupid Panthers, they paid $9mil per for Poe and I got Beau Allen AND Mitch Unrein for just $8.5mil per”

    Oh boy ….

  66. mark2001 Says:

    tmax…I’d rather have a “consistent winner”…but when have we ever experienced that? And when anywhere other than New England, Green Bay, Seattle, and Pittsburgh?

  67. AlteredEgo Says:

    Nelson was great at timing his run to the spot…..not sure our guy has proven he can make those throws….except for the last one last year

  68. NFLNut Says:

    mark2001,

    We’ll have to agree to disagree … I watched Jordy play … he’s washed up. The dude gets ZERO separation and averaged like 9.8 yards per catch … Hump is worth more than Jordy and Jordy is going to make 2.5x as much … crazy.

  69. tmaxcon Says:

    mark2001

    bucs franchise has never seen it…. dungy era were pretenders not contenders great defnese on a HORRIBLE team. Gruden was one and done in tampa basically. Never won a single meaningful game after the super bowl. there are trade offs. it does not really matter in our case considering the glazers have NO intentions of fielding a respectable team.

  70. NFLNut Says:

    CHUCKY just signed a FB to $2.1mil per … he does think it’s 2012 … maybe he can sign Adrian Peterson next and run a three RB option offense?

    Hey, TeBow’s still available … didn’t say TeBow would dominate the NFL?

  71. mark2001 Says:

    Further…I don’t see Licht and Koetter being capable of building a “consistent winner”…..so when do you think we will start building that? Manana?

  72. tmaxcon Says:

    mark2001

    it’s not going to be soon. glazers have no intentions of winning. furthest thing from their minds. actions and inaction prove it.

  73. mark2001 Says:

    Nut…you saw Jordy the year after a major injury with a substandard QB that couldn’t deliver the ball worth squat…one that GB will be washing out shortly. And we know how badly a good receiver can look without a QB that can drop the ball in the basket for them.

  74. NFLNut Says:

    mark2001,

    Like I said, we’ll have to agree to disagree as I think Jordy is junk now … I also don’t know that Carr will help him as both Crabtree and especially Amari Cooper both sucked last year as well …

  75. JimmyJack Says:

    Lord Corn……You can forget that 2015 offense. That was not Dirks offense. He was the playcaller that had to call plays within the gameplan that his HC laid out for him. I’ve heard him say exactly that in a radio interview.

    The bottom line is that Dirk has been awful as a HC. The only time his team had a winning streak his offense was just as poor. And he has been quoted on this site saying he doesn’t meddle with the defense. Until his team proves otherwise he has been a horrible HC IMO

  76. NFLNut Says:

    Jags got Austin Sefarian-Jenkins … if that team had a real QB they could win the SB this year no doubt

  77. mark2001 Says:

    Nut…the Packers don’t think so. I follow them pretty closely during the summer. They had too many receivers they were trying to keep….good young guys… and offered him a salary reduction to keep him. This problem was looming early last season, and wasn’t precipitated by Jordy’s off year. He wasn’t cut…just asked to take a salary cut so they could keep the young guys. The season will prove what he has left….his hands are as good as ever. He has lost a step. But no sense in arguing about it….Gruden knew how to get McCardell, JJ and Key the ball, and I’m pretty sure he will know how to get the ball to Jordy. We will see.

  78. JimmyJack Says:

    Tmax I would be so quick to write the book on Gruden. To me it’s a chain of command.

    I don’t know what the deal is in Oakland but if Gruden has full control like he did here then, yes, it’s a recipe for failure. If he has good management above him, like he did with Al Davis, then he could be very successful.

    I think you are letting you Buccaneers loyalty taint your view of things.

    The Glazers made the awful decision to let him have all the power and ruin the orginazation but that doesn’t mean the Raiders will let him do the same. If they are smart they have done their homework on what went wrong with Gruden in TB and won’t let the same happen to them.

  79. JimmyJack Says:

    Nut I’d argue that the Jags could have been in the SuperBowl with better play calling in the AFC game

  80. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I would prefer WR Michael Crabtree over Desaun Jackson to be honest….but Jackson has too much dead cap space to let go of this year. Trade him for a DE and sign WR Michael Crabtree? I’d like that!

  81. JimmyJack Says:

    I wouldn’t bet against Jordy. He was doing just fine last year til Rodgers went down.

    Yes Carr is no Rodgers but he darn sure ain’t no Hundley.

  82. NFLNut Says:

    ***********************

    MUST-READ … INTERESTING IDEA:

    BROWNS: SAM DARNOLD
    GIANTS: SAQUON BARKLEY
    BILLS (trade with Colts): JOSH ALLEN
    BROWNS: BRADLEY CHUBB
    BRONCOS: QUENTON NELSON
    JETS: BAKER MAYFIELD

    BUCS … draft Josh Rosen (cheap for the next 4 years so the team can build a great defense and spend like crazy in the next few free agency classes) and TRADE JAMEIS and GMC to the Jags for Blake Bortles, Marcel Dareus ($20.816mil for $20.175), the Jags 2017 draft (yes, ALL of their picks) and their 2019 1st rounder.

    The Bucs could then flip Bortles and maybe a 3rd and 4th to the Cardinals for the #15 pick in the draft as well.

    So, the Bucs would trade Jameis and GMC and get back Marcel Dareus, the #15, #29, #61, #93, #129, #203, #230 and #247!

    FYI, the 2018 Jags’ picks are worth 2,164.8 points which is equal to the value between the #3 and #4 overall picks in the draft. Add in their 2019 1st rounder and it’s more like a #1 overall value.

    Ya’ll know I believe in Jameis’ future more so than any other young QBs, so I would NOT do this trade but I’m guessing a lot of you guys would … and I think the Jags would as well … and I think they’d win the SB next year too!

    ******************

  83. tmaxcon Says:

    jimmyjack

    if the glazers were smart it would not be decades in between competitive teams

  84. tmaxcon Says:

    nflnut

    very creative but man you are hitting the bottle hard my man.

  85. mark2001 Says:

    NFLnut. Jameis hasn’t shown enough on and off the field to swing that kind of deal. With all the good young QB’s coming into the league the last couple years, and the fact that Jameis hasn’t really made the jump yet, few GM’s would risk their entire future on him.

  86. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “I’ve heard him say exactly that in a radio interview.”

    Heard him say the exact opposite in press conferences. He ran the offense he wanted.

    Regardless – Doug Martin / the run game / was pathetic in 2014 under Lovie when there was basically no OC. Koetter stepped in the next year and set franchise records in 2015 in terms of total yards and had one of the best running offenses in the league.

    And Lovie has never been associated with a team’s offense other than wanting to run the ball / be conservative. None of that has anything to do with play design concepts / play calling which is what massively improved between 2014-2015; obviously due to an OC change.

  87. AlteredEgo Says:

    Well chosen screen name…..NFLnut… 🙂

  88. SteveK Says:

    NFLNut,

    Interesting proposal.

    Why lot just trade Jameis and get an early pick?

    I want Jameis to do well and get a second contract with the Bucs. And I hope he’s not suspended. Because if Goodell decides to suspend him our season is torpedoed and his trade value is nil.

  89. donuts Says:

    From one nut to another…Too nutty nut.

  90. Rod Munch Says:

    Ryan Jensen left with no contract and is heading to Indy.

    Pitiful.

  91. DB55 Says:

    Nut

    The kush on fire today huh?

  92. AlteredEgo Says:

    Rod Munch Says:
    March 15th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    Ryan Jensen left with no contract and is heading to Indy.

    ….Jason has him right where he wants them…Hawley is on Licht’s speed dial…..I saw a mock with Barkley available at 7…..SMH….

  93. El_Buc941 Says:

    ANNNNND DONTARI POE goes to the Panthers for $27mil @ 3 yrs. Wich equals to $9mil a yr…..WTF IS GOING ON JASON LICHT!!!!!

  94. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    NFLNut…you are nuts. LOL

  95. Rod Munch Says:

    So the Saints are bringing in Suh, yet they only have $12-million in cap space, $11-million in dead money and need $6-million to sign rookies. Are they worried about being in cap hell!?!? How can they make a move like signing Suh, aren’t they worried about 4 years from now when it might come back to bite them in the rear. Cap hell is real – it cost Gruden a chance at a SB, he totally was going to win another one but cap hell came along and he was helpless. I don’t get why the Saints would try to make a move like this – I’d much rather have a loser team than worry about cap hell.

  96. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Anyway, here’s my updated wishlist:
    2018 Free Agency Wishlist

    • QB Ryan Fitzpatrick (RE-SIGNED)

    • RB Jerick McKinnon (SIGNED W/49ERS)

    • WR Adam Humphries (2nd Round Tendered)

    • TE Cameron Brate (RFA) (RE-SIGNED)

    – G Senio Kelemete (SIGNED BY TEXANS)

    • CB Brent Grimes (RE-SIGNED)

    – K Cody Parkey (SIGNED W/BEARS)

    • RB LeGarrette Blount *

    • RB Orleans Darkwa *

    • DT Ndamukong Suh

    • OLB/DE Junior Galette

    • CB Ross Cockrell

    • DB Tyrann “Honey Badger” Mathieu *

    • DB Tre Boston *

  97. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Well, I’m tired and I have to proof read some stuff. See you all tomorrow.

  98. SteveK Says:

    Later Bonzai!

    I hope a Badger or Suh end up with the Bucs. Both would be a dream.

  99. Rod Munch Says:

    El_Buc941 – Poe got $9m/year? LOL! I’m with Licht on that one, a DT that can’t rush the passer and just eats up space for $9m…

    But again, Carolina, they sign a guy for $9m/year when they only had $12m in cap space! OMG, they won’t even be able to draft anyone – they can’t afford it! I sentence the Panthers to CAP HELL! Take that Panthers… you might win the division next year but 4 years from now you may or may not be sorry.

  100. [email protected] Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    As someone who has lived in both places, I can assure you that Tampa is not the Party and Drug City that some here make it out to be.
    Sure, we have our problems, but Drugs are far more plentiful and less expensive, in Oakland. Tampa is not Miami, or even Orlando, so forget your Miami Vice memories.
    My point is this – Wherever Doug Martin goes, there he is, and if he wants to find drugs out in Oakland, he will find them.
    Please stop blaming his addiction issues on Tampa.

    Doug might do great out in Oakland, and here is why. Anyone ever consider that some of his team mates were pissed at him for what they perceived as special treatment by the Bucs, and quit blocking for him, as well as they could ?

  101. Rod Munch Says:

    The Bucs called Mike Pouncey to find out if he was interested in signing a 1-year “prove it” deal for $2.5m/year, it’s down to that or signing a 4 year deal for $13m/year with the Ravens. It’s gonna be close…

  102. AlteredEgo Says:

    Yeah….some teams are in position to win next year and facing “cap HELL”…
    Buc are a looking down the barrel of another consecutive losing season laughing at those teams in cap hell…..Cap Space scoreboard !!!

  103. Rod Munch Says:

    Chris – That’s moronic, if any player decided they wouldn’t block for Martin because they perceived he was treated differently, then they should be promptly cut. That is really some cornball thought process you got there. Sounds to me like you’ve watched too many really poorly written sports dramas.

  104. BucEmUp Says:

    Doug Martin rushing for 1000 yards behind Donald Penn under John Gruden. Wow that’s gonna be great.

  105. BigPoppaBuc Says:

    I get the feeling that Gruden is going to be total bust in Oakland. I loved watching his reaction to the coin flip at the combine.

  106. Rod Munch Says:

    BucEmUp – 1100 yards at more than 4.5 a carry, assuming he’s healthy.

  107. derrickbrooksforGM Says:

    Yes! Happy for Dougie!

  108. NFLNut Says:

    ************

    I’m thrilled most of ya’ll are laughing off the Jameis trade to the Jags as you now I personally wouldn’t trade Jameis … but I have fun thinking outside the box … and ya’ll know that if I made that post on a game day the comments section would be loaded with comments saying “yeah, trade him” and “great idea, do it Licht”.

    BTW Mark2001 … you’re nuttier than me if you don’t think the Jags would bend over backwards to do that deal … THAT team with Jameis and GMC instead of Bortles and Dareus wins a SB imho.

    ************

  109. tmaxcon Says:

    NFLNUT

    CANCER93 has not accomplished a damn thing here what makes you think he would in Jacksonville… nothing but excuses and tears with thar POS

  110. JimmyJack Says:

    Lord Corn…..What you are saying is not the exact opposite. Dirk ran the offense he wanted. Which has an entirely different run scheme that he had as an offensive coordinator.

    Our running game was thriving under Lovie Smiths game plan because we mostly ran out of pro formation. Sims was not just a third down back in that offense he was a legitimate weapon on every down. He ran against the grain of the blocking scheme where the defense would have to respec5 Doug getting the ball and overcommitt. This gave Sims holes to go through and open field to make plays. It’s why his ypc was so productive.

    Sims was drafted for a reason. It’s now basically a wasted draft pick because he is not being utilized to expose his abilities. Dirk barely ever runs out of pro form. and every defense we play knows who is getting the ball. Doug is not skilled enough to be used like that. And the use of Sims has been awful. In 2016 he was ran as a feature back when Doug went down. This was an awful decision. Last year he was seen in the slot. He didn’t make a play from the slot all year. As only a third down back he did next to nothing. Using him on third down and predictably as a passing threat to only one side of the field completely eliminated him seeing any open field.

    Sims was drafted to be a guy in a offense that would give him a few open field looks each game. His ability to impact a game has been wasted in Dirks offense. In Lovies offense it was exploited. The stats speak for themselves. Dirks offense has also wasted any chance for Doug to be productive in any way. He has been used in a two TE feature back set that would be fine if he is an all pro……..Go back and look at his film last year and just let me know how often he made a LB miss. He sucked and he was much better in Lovies offense when the LBs got caught guessing more and he didn’t have to make them miss.

    Dirk doesn’t know his players doesn’t know how to get a running game going and doesn’t know how to use his lineman…..That’s why Marpet might be getting moved for the third time and why our run blockin* only improved when guys got injured……Keep hoping Dirk goes back to Lovies offense but it will never happen and his offense is only good if we get all pros at every position. That’s why we have to buy DJax and need to draft a RB.

  111. JimmyJack Says:

    **END RANT**

  112. I Bleed Pewter and Red Says:

    laughing endlessly out loud ….Gruden on LSD watching hamster in a 5 second loop

  113. NFLNut Says:

    TMAXCON,

    Jax doesn’t need GMC, he’d be a luxury and whatever he added would be fine … that team without Dareus is built to win NOW if it had a real QB, but upgrading Dareus to GMC (and no matter how much of a POS you think GMC is, he’s still an upgrade over Dareus) and massively upgrading from Bortles to Jameis could turn Jax into the most dominant team the NFL has seen in a while

  114. tmaxcon Says:

    nflnut

    no one needs cancer93 he will ruin any locker room he enters

  115. Gencoimports Says:

    I’m torn on this one. I’d love to see Martin bounce back but I’d also like to see Chuckie fail in Oakland.

  116. Chris Schiefen Says:

    The Joes are so absurdly A/B black and white. Martin’s gonna be desperate, he generally alternates good and bad years, he’s not beat up, and he’ll simply be a backup/insurance policy to Lynch. Doesn’t mean Gruden is out of his gourd.

  117. NFLNut Says:

    I’d be surprised if Martin tops 800 yards as a feature back … in Oakland behind Lynch I doubt he tops 400 yards …

  118. Joel Says:

    Good to see Gruden still likes over the hill has beens…

  119. Rod Munch Says:

    Gruden isn’t going to keep Lynch around, the first time the cameras come into the locker room and they bypass Gruden to talk to Lynch he’ll be gone.

  120. mark2001 Says:

    NFLNut….I wouldn’t take the chance with Jameis. He hasn’t shown the game up to par with any of the QB in our division. He may be…if he gets his head right and shows he can throw anything but jump balls more than 20 or 30 yards down the field. But no…I wouldn’t give all those picks plus players for the deal. Even up those two players? OK…but that wasn’t the deal, was it?

  121. mark2001 Says:

    Nut…those players plus “the Jags 2017 draft (yes, ALL of their picks) and their 2019 1st rounder.” as you said. That deal would be a GM career killer…. they would be nuts to do that.

  122. Duke Says:

    Nfl Nut,

    ‘re; London Bucs,

    Thank you. The entire notion is based on the fact the Glazers also own a football team in the UK. I have to think that the fools who tout this blasphemy are ignorant to the fact that there’s more than NFL owner who is also a owner in the premiership. One is in the same state and owns the second most popular club.

    Which brings me back to your point. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Jacksonville moved. Same reason as you state but I will add more facts to the fire. That other owner , also owns Jax. And, unlike the Bucs, is actively involved in building a fan base in the UK. Jax actively lobbies to play there whereas the Bucs do not.

    And last, all the team’s primary revenue stream is derived from the league’s revenue sharing agreement. The league’s primary revenue is derived from the broadcast rights contracts with the major networks. If Jax moved to the UK, the value of the broadcasting rights for the league is not negatively impacted by losing the jax local/regional area. Tampa Bay is much more valuable than jax and is more valuable than the alternative UK revenues. N.N. (The following is not addressed to you.)

    If the typical low IQ buc conspiracy theorists can’t understand how the business model impacts the decisions made collectively by the owners, which moving a franchise is one, then I will splain it ezr……it’s bout dem Benjamin’s . Mo money v less money.

    The money is Not to the Glazers …..wait for it……its to the other owners. Which means if the Bucs owners want to move, they just need to pay off the other owners. Sorry I’m going to take a giant dump on you conspiracy theorists but here’s the real deal.

    The Glazers can move today if they choose. They don’t need to run attendance down that’s just a misdirection , oddly enough people who believe elaborate conspiracies can’t discern between the public and private negotiations. Which may explain why they believe in such tomfoolery and balderdash in the first place. To move tomorrow, the Glazers simply need to pay enough extortion money to the other “Dons”. It’s that simple.
    ——-Take a second to digest it because I know you think it’s not that simple it’s it’s about attendance and……….stop it. It’s not. It’s about the money for the other capo’s. —-

    Now here’s the best part if you are anti Semitic. If this did happen, the area would be awarded another franchise. Why? Because of the value that the area’s TV market. I’ll help again, think Cuba and gambling. The Don’ s love a vacuum.
    Too abstract…

  123. MadMax Says:

    I swear im about to fly out there and pull a tanya harding if he blows up and gets over a thousand yards…..getting tired of this kinda stuff.

  124. NFLNut Says:

    Duke,

    Now THAT was a great post; thank you for taking the time to type that!

  125. NFLNut Says:

    Mark2001,

    Again, imo you’re nuts if you don’t think Jax would do that trade in a heartbeat … it would be the Bucs that would turn it down.

    Also, Jameis has been better than Cam the last two years and was better than Matt Ryan last year and he’s a lot younger than both. The Jags might even make that sort of trade for Ryan so they would definitely do it for Jameis imho.

  126. mark2001 Says:

    Poor Nut…they would do that trade for all those picks and players…. Ridiculous.

    Secondly, excuse me, but I’m a win and playoff guy. The rest just means you choke when the time comes to win the big game, or just good enough to win some games but lose the big ones. And if that is your measure, go ahead…make that trade. But Jameis has proven NOTHING so far. That you can’t get it speaks poorly of you.

  127. boxster Says:

    let’s not forget Chucky could never figure out what to do with Mike Alstott