The Alleged Vernon Hargreaves Video

March 28th, 2018

Social media strikes: Lots of smoke, no fire.

Joe’s going to keep this simple.

There’s a roughly six-second, unsourced Instagram video floating around the Internet that appears to be of Vernon Hargreaves smoking something in silence. And a lot of people are making a big deal about it assuming it’s marijuana.

Joe will not.

It might not be Hargreaves. It might be two years old. If the NFL is going to investigate this, then Joe assumes it will take at least six months, considering there are other investigations in the queue.

NFL analyst Tim Brown, no not the former Bucs fair-catch punt returner, posted a copy of the video in question on his Twitter feed. The video was originally posted on a fake Hargreaves Instagram account that has since been deactivated.

This simply cannot be good for the 11th overall pick in the 2016 draft now labeled as a nickel corner trying to halt the downward trajectory of his once promising career.

81 Responses to “The Alleged Vernon Hargreaves Video”

  1. tmaxcon Says:

    Just another failed pathetic local feel good story who can’t play football…. a true buccaneer man

  2. Dre Says:

    I have no problem with players smoking weed…but i do have a problem with former first round picks not performing for the team i love. It won’t happen but i would like to see this guy traded for a 2nd rounder if possible

  3. tmaxcon Says:


    Impossible to get a 2nd round pick for 8th round talent.

  4. Destinjohnny Says:

    With our biggest weakness being the defensive line
    We enter into the deepest defensive line draft in 20
    Years and we draft
    A slow undersized db whom should have been a 3rd round pick
    We draft a slow 230 pound defensive end 4.88 forty
    And trade up for a kicker…..

  5. Pickgrin Says:

    “I have no problem with players smoking weed…but i do have a problem with former first round picks not performing for the team i love.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself Dre

    Hargreaves is talented enough to be a good player in the NFL. The bigger question I believe is how bad does he want it?

  6. Bucsfan951 Says:

    I could care less about him smoking. I’m just pissed off at his regression on the field. Looking at his Instagram page, it appears he needs less Louis Vuitton and more nfl practice in his life. Life of a millennial I guess.

  7. Waterboy Says:

    Not sure it’s him but very dumb move to record it if it is. That’s like cheating on your wife and making a video of it. I saw the video and it definitely looks like him but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt that he’s smarter than that.

  8. Waterboy Says:

    BTW Denzel Ward should be on the board at 7.

  9. Lamarcus Says:

    This team is not curse ….. The fan base are cursed. Every player comes are way and out on a Bucs jersey….. DECLINES.

  10. Lamarcus Says:

    That was him like a mugg

  11. Bobby M. Says:

    Not our 1st rd superstar nickel CB…..The dude is more about being a football “playa” then a football “player”. Another shock and blah draft pick by Licht.

  12. Walter Says:


    Because there’s NEVER been an underperforming athlete in history that WASN’T a millennial?? A bum is a bum, no matter when they were born.

  13. SteveK Says:

    Sad for VH3.

    I hope he gets better this year. If not, cut his ass!

  14. MakeBucsGreatAgain Says:

    Hey tmax,

  15. Easy Says:


    If you started a weekly podcast ranting about the Bucs and Cancer93 I’d subscribe in a heartbeat.

  16. SteveK Says:

    “Never mad is an outside cornerback”

    What’s worse? Our nickelback, or the nickelback?

  17. SteveK Says:

    “Never made it as an outside cornerback”**

  18. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Wait, a NFL player that smokes weed? I just can’t believe it!

    That being said, why would you record it? I know I’m getting old and less connected with young people, but it’s just plain stupid when you’ve got millions of dollars on the line.

  19. SteveK Says:


    Why not Tunsil? At least his smoking video is hilarious and he has a lot more potential.

    This is a make or break year for Heargraves! Improve or, get cut!

  20. tmaxcon Says:


    LOL is your little feelings hurt by truth…. awwwe poor baby. Raise your standards loser…. truth hurts if you can’t handle go back to your safe place… reality is a beotch

  21. SteveK Says:

    Make bucs great again,

    Tmaxcon is a great, true fan.

    If you can’t handle his amazing commentary, then take yourself out of the comments section.

  22. Stanglassman Says:

    That’s definitely him. He smoked nonstop the 4 hours I was working at his home last month. I personally don’t smoke but do think it should be legal. However like anything I can be abused. It’s time to grow up and put some of that time into your craft.

  23. 813bucboi Says:

    its him, but its an old video……his dreads are a lot longer now…..just like in the picture above…..that’s an old pic with short dreads…..I seen him recently in a challenger, his dread are a lot longer…..

    with that being said, he’s skating on thin ice!!!!!

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!!

  24. Lamarcus Says:

    Is this why he can’t cover a slant? Seeing triple vision maybe he is covering a mirage

  25. Knucknbuc Says:

    Don’t care about the weed. But I care that vh3 sucks on the field and he was a first round no 11 draft pick despite being small and slow. What an idiotic pic that looks even stupider in hindsight.


    IF the kid was good I wouldn’t him smoking weed but he sucks so it’s an issue.

  27. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    That is not Vernon. If it was, he looks years younger there.

  28. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    At worst, that is a college pic. Nothing to see.

  29. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Tmax you are a straight b|tch go somewhere else clown.

  30. Eric Says:

    Looks exactly like him to me.

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Stanglassman Says
    “That’s definitely him. He smoked nonstop the 4 hours I was working at his home last month.”

    If I were you, I would ask Joe to delete that comment. There have been lawsuits successfully made against people that post that sort of thing online. Easy to track you down with an IP address, and they can get it with a court order, giving Joe no choice but to provide it. And believe me…he has access to it.

  32. tmaxcon Says:


    awweeee another little Gaytor fan with his or her feelings hurt…. vh3 is just another failed local feel good story and waste of time by a failed organization.

  33. tmaxcon Says:


    You need a loser dress sir… you are simply incredible defending failed losers… have you ever pulled for a winner in life or sports.

  34. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Well, look who is spoiling for attention. What’s the matter? Your momma stopped breast feeding you so now you go around trying to bait people into conversations because you lack the personality or intellect to carry out a true conversation?

    It will be okay, TMax. That bull you are trying to milk will give you more than you bargained for.

  35. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    On topic, I don’t see much of a resemblance. The eyebrows are different, along with the cheek bones. Unless VHIII comes out and says it is him (younger) then I don’t think it is him.

    Fans always jump on stuff like this when they feel a player needs to be cut. Truth doesn’t matter.

  36. Stanglassman Says:

    Joes delete my post above per Bonzi’s recommendation.

    You maybe correct about it being an old college video.

  37. Lord Cornelius Says:

    meh could give 2 sh1ts if it’s weed or whatever. Most all the NFL players smoke weed.

    I just want to see him play well

  38. Stanglassman Says:

    Bonzi- It is VHIII. There is no doubt. I could say more but you maybe correct that I shouldn’t.

  39. Bucsfanman Says:

    @SteveK- Don’t encourage tmax more than you have to, “amazing commentary” is a little bit of a stretch.

    Look, we need VHIII to perform. This is irrelevant as it pertains to football. He’s got a long way to go IMO.
    Work your way back Vernon and stop finger-wagging completely. Act like it’s your job.

  40. Skoorb43 Says:

    Bye bye

  41. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    There is a lot I do not understand about some of the mistakes of today’s players.

    Smoking weed is not the problem as everybody here has agreed…abusing it not so good…just like booze and ciggies or too much bacon. I’ve done all three to excess at different points in my life. LOL But I was never a professional athlete.

    I think as far as the pics…remember Michael Phelps…the athlete doesn’t necessarily plan it or even improve but if you’re at a pot party with EVERY person there equipped with a hand held camera in their cell phone somebody is going to take pics especially if your a famous athlete.

    I hear you though Hawaiian. Just like Fameis’s Arizona adventure. If I was a multimillionaire…famous celebrity…I would never go out drinking or partying without a bodyguard/driver. Millions of dollars made before you’re 30 provides a nice life. You can stay stoned from 30 on.

  42. StPeteBucsFan Says:


  43. David Says:

    I do not care what he’s smoking just play better.

  44. David Says:

    Actually, Now that I think about it 20 seconds longer, I do care what he is smoking. It goes to being levelheaded and smart. You have a short window to have a career in the NFL, if weed is illegal, then just don’t do it, really freaking simply.

  45. SteveK Says:

    Now or never for VH3. I expect more out of the 11th overall pick. I hope he bounces back this year and has his bearings.

  46. Bird Says:

    It’s probably just oregano.

    What an idiot. This guy is trying to make bucs draft by need for his replacement

  47. NFLNut Says:

    I think it’s him … and I don’t care … non-issue.

  48. BucTrooper Says:

    I don’t care if you sit home and smoke weed.

    I DO care that you ball on Sunday because I pay for season tickets. If you’re not there because you’re suspended or because you are benched for performance, we have problems.

  49. Tbbucs3 Says:

    This is Vernon Hargreaves pre Florida Gators at Wharton high school. The only reason why this is a big deal is because theres a video. Non issue, next.

  50. SteveK Says:

    It’s an issue if Heargraves can’t live up to the billing as the 11th overall pick. If he balls out, plays well, and the team does well the we are good to go.

    If Heargraves gets toasted on and off the field this year, then there is a problem and time to cut bait.

    It’s time to win some damn games. This is a non-issue as long as heargraves balls out. If he sucks, and keeps his trajectory of bustbig, then we have a problem.

  51. Tbbucs3 Says:

    I think we should ease up on VH3 a little. His first year was solid, probably get a little to cocky and hence the set back in 17. So hes 1 and 1 so far in career. Hes still young but If he has another bad year this year, fire away.

  52. Architek Says:

    Man WTF!!!!!

  53. Duke Says:


    Is that why He can’t cover a slant……….

    Lol, it’s amazing how many people say the Bucs CB can’t cover a slant pass.
    Then they say that the CB s play 10yrs off….

    If you only realized the humor in it…..Lol…

    .funny stuff

  54. gotbbucs Says:

    Am I missing where this should even be a story?

    It. Was. A. Fake. Account.

    Quick…pile on trolls. That includes which every Joe it is these days with the bad attitude.

  55. Kansas95Buc Says:

    Man who cares if anybody on the team smoke, the president is grabbing women by the p ussy. The only thing that should matter is if he can help the team win

  56. Tbbucs3 Says:

    The CBs playing 10 yards off was Mike Smiths inability to make in game adjustments and a lack of of communication between coach and coordinator. Mike Smith puts his corners at 10 yards off because he runs Lovie Smiths conservative “bend but dont break” defense, which ultimately is based off fear. Fear of giving up the big play and fear that a blitz wont work, etc. Both coaches on both side up the ball need to loosen up and play WAY more aggressive.

    The Bucs defense doesn’t strike fear in opponents, we strike fear in ourselves.

    PS- Mike Smith, why dont you come down from that comfortable, air conditioned press box and coach a little? Obviously its not working. The press box eye in the sky view is predominately for offensive cordinators. Never saw Matt Patricia in a press box, he always wanted to be down on the field with his players.

    I hope this changes with coach Buckner but the Bucs do not have a true leader on the defense as a coach to be on the field with them throughout

  57. Tbbucs3 Says:

    a game….and were still waiting for a true leader to step up among the players on that side of the ball. If you watch the patriots, Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia are always talking to the the defense on the sidelines to help guide them through the complexities of the game. Who did the Bucs have to do that last year? NOBODY. Jay Hayes was to quiet and soft spoken for that and Dirk Koetter is an offensive coach.

    So Mike Smith if you want to bring some wins to Tampa Bay, get down from that press box and into the Florida humidity.

  58. Rod Munch Says:

    Is that even him? While I don’t care if he gets high or not, the act of filming yourself or letting yourself get filmed would be the offensive part here.

  59. stevek Says:

    gotbbucs Says:
    March 28th, 2018 at 12:57 pm
    Am I missing where this should even be a story?

    It. Was. A. Fake. Account.

    Quick…pile on trolls. That includes which every Joe it is these days with the bad attitude.


    LOL, you act like we are a winning franchise. We are basement dwellers, and our CB situation, outside of Grimes, is absolutely putrid. I don’t care if it was a fake account, what I do care about is that was the real VH3 in the video. The same CB we drafted 11th overall, and has failed to live up to expectations.

    I care if this defense goes out and gets torched again with another last place finish. I care if Vernon plays 20 yards off the ball, again, and gets toasted next season.

    Bottom line, if VH3 balls out this year then the “who cares” argument applies. If VH3 comes out and gives up the Buccaneer Booty early and often, then we have a major effing problem.

    The Steelers tolerate LeVeon Bell’s smoking, bc dude is an absolute baller. VH3 is subpar thus far, and we has the 11th overall pick. We need more of a contribution, and expect more of one based on his draft status.

    Let’s go Bucs!

    No one is trolling. This team is sh!t, and they have earned/deserve 100% of the criticism.

    Do Koetter and Smitty get a pass bc VH3 is slacking off of the field? NO THEY DON’T.

    So why does everyone turn the other cheek for VH3’s stupidity.

    He is not Odell Beckham, his talent doesn’t lead one to tolerate the foolishness.

  60. JAB83 Says:

    TJ Ward made this vid… That’s TJ lil cuz…

    I was there… Rolled the Blunt…

  61. Duke Says:


    Where in the world did you come up with the notion that the defense is based on fear? Or that the defense lovie ran is the same as Smith. Sorry but it’s not simple.

  62. JL47 Says:


    Hey everybody! We have a bucs insider who’s pals with all the players! You sound ridiculous.

  63. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    Call it what u want,Joe, but this definitely looks like Hargreaves sitting there smoking a blunt.

    You would be surprised if you knew how many NFL players actually smoke weed…

    Definitely over 50% of the players smoke weed.

    I’ve hung out with some (who will not be named) and smoking weed is very common. Basically the same percentage as regular society as far as guys who blaze or not.

  64. Capt.Tim Says:

    If I were him, Id stay stoned.
    Can you imagine, every Sunday- lining up opposite an NFL Wide Reciever.
    Hundred of thousands watching
    And you have no chance of defending him.
    He is bigger, Faster. Can jump higher, cut quicker.

    And the Guys paying you Millions of dollars are watching you get toasted every single play. Realizing that you suck. Bad.
    You are just a few more bad plays, from moving furniture for a living.
    And youve spent all your money on your posse, clothes, and Jewelery.

    Yeah- Id stay toasted

  65. bucluv55 Says:

    Give it a rest. We all know you’re the baddest MFer that has ever clicked the keys. We all bow down to the ultimate keyboard tough guy. Your every key stroke strikes fear in the heart of all of us.

    I know, i know… I’m not a true fan…. raise expectation….blah blah blah….

    Please , please don’t down talk me now… I may not make it through the week, I so value your opinion…. I mean statement of facts, opinions could be wrong, not yours though.

  66. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Hopefully this is one of the last seasons this story will be a story.

    If the pic was VHIII sucking on brewskie next to a big bin full of iced beer and acting crazy…as in inebriated would we have said anything?

    Our society is still wack when it comes to weed. So if you fill out the paperwork for Medical Marijuana( a friend told me about it LOL) you’ll see the bold letters.

    While this is for the State of Florida it’s against U.S. Federal law.

    So we now have a dozen or so states with various levels of legality for marijuana and the Feds still have it as a crime.

    Weed has always been about politics. It was way down the schedule for bad drugs until Nixon moved it all the way up to Level One like heroin or crack cocaine. He did this to get even with the pot smoking hippies who protested HIS war.

    Now we have a pinheaded little cracker who must have had his lunch money taken from him every day at school…tiny little Jefferson Beauregard Sessions who is ready to take that Federal power and try to bust all the “legal” citizens in states where weed is legal.

    How is that going to work out. Given the bureaucracy now set up in Tallahassee…Doctors who have paid to get certified….Patients who have forked over their $75. Add in that Americans support legal pot by a significant majority.

    Why is little Jeffey wasting all this time and Federal money? I’ve just mentioned Florida…Michigan…and of course California…Colorado….sorry little Jeffey…no tiny little cracker is going to turn this tide. As I said weed has always been about politics. Too many supporters out there now.

  67. Mike Johnson Says:

    If he’s smoking weed in Public then thats a no no. If he’s in Amsterdam though!!
    I would wager about 60 to 80% of all NFL’ers smoke Weedl They do it for pain relief. And if you have played in the NFl for a yr or more..You do have pain. A HS friend of mine who played with the Jets for 10 yrs told me, Just about all NFl players smoke weed. So I got no problem with it. Just not in Public. Besides Once Uncle Sugar (sam) figures out how to get his healthy slice of taxes from it, marijuana will probably be legal everywhere. its time has come. Like it or not.

  68. D-Rome Says:

    It looks like him. Hopefully this isn’t recent.

  69. PRBucFan Says:

    lol he looks like he’s in middle school in that video

  70. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    You are correct sir. The states like Cali and Colorado have already figured out the tax implications. What nobody wants to consider is that this also represents a multi BILLION dollar legal business. The guys “pushing” the weed nowawadays are just like your elected representatives…as always it’s about the Benjamins.

    “Drug Dealers” are not Mexicans named Chapo…they’re just a likely to be named Bill and a very wealthy Anglo running a scientific well managed business. But it takes millions to set this up…where did all that venture capital come from…who will be really peoed if somehow Jeffey was able to bankrupt them.

  71. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Sounds like someone may have either tried to blackmail Hargreaves or he has a dumb friend like Desean J’s truck borrower. The NFL rules on drug testing are designed to be lenient in the off season..why? probably because they couldn’t field a league otherwise.

  72. TonyC Says:

    Sign a damn cover CB ( should’ve already), move Elliot to slot draft James (he’s a Lynch type).

  73. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Professional athletes are scrutinized more than politicians.

    “America, what a Country” Yakoff Smirnoff

  74. SOEbuc Says:


    He still looks like he’s in middle school.

    VH3 got put on IR cus Koetter beat him up so bad for constantly passin the blunt to the right in the locker room.

  75. Howard Cosell Says:

    LOL wow….I hope he’s not that bad….I

  76. cmurda Says:

    This video… Ummm, who cares. Zero proof that he’s smoking weed and it’s impossible to prove that it’s not tobacco. The bigger concern is whether or not he can live up to his draft position.

  77. cmurda Says:

    Yeah I agree Mike and St Pete. Nobody can tell me weed is more dangerous than tobacco or alcohol but guess which one is still illegal Federally. Yup, the one that the government can’t make money on but the few states that have it legal for recreational use have figured it out. Who benefits the most you might ask? The children and schools. Much of the revenue goes right into the educational system.

  78. unbelievable Says:

    … when you hold 24-year old football players to higher standards than the president …

  79. Duke Says:

    It’s not been that long ago that many of you guys piled on drug Martin.
    He’s a druggie who let his team down…blah blah blah….

    Another player…But it’s weed and the same guys who were denouncing Doug Martin are now rationalizing Vern’ s pot smoking…

    Bottom line, they both have sucked but at the very least one guy is taking performance enhancing drugs and the other performance inhibiting drugs.

    It appears that a side effect of weed is hypocrisy …

  80. Bculaw Says:

    I can’t wait to see his press conference. When someone asks him if the video is of him, he’ll raise his hand up in the air and wag his finger. Then, he’ll make the slashing motion with both arms signaling “incomplete” like he does when the receiver he is covering has three steps on him and the QB overthrows him.

  81. Evolvingbucfan Says:

    Bculaw, if he is interviewed he will probably do alot of back peddling but don’t worry he will be at least 10 yards off….lol