Jameis Did Not Address Teammates On NFL Investigation

February 28th, 2018

America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, may be the leader of your Buccaneers, and he may be fond of saying the team is “one heartbeat” and “family,” but he did not talk to his brotherhood about the elephant that landed in the locker room more than three months ago.

After Jameis was accused of crotch-grabbing a female Uber driver without permission and the NFL subsequently launched an investigation in November into Jameis’ conduct, Jameis did not address his teammates about the incident that made national headlines.

Dirk Koetter confirmed this today at the NFL Scouting Combine. Koetter was asked directly if Jameis addressed the team on the matter and Koetter said, “No.” That came after Koetter said he didn’t have “any” information on the NFL investigation.

Joe had heard from multiple players that Jameis didn’t address the team on the issue, but Joe didn’t want to do the anonymous sources thing here on such a sensitive matter. But now it’s out there.

Man, Joe finds this all quite odd and suspicious. One would think a guy like Jameis, a guy who says he’s focused on leadership and has spent a ton of time being counseled by Derrick Brooks, would recognize the value of dropping at least a 30-second statement to his teammates face-to-face on such a critical matter.

So much about this NFL investigation stinks. (See home page for fresh news)

No, Joe is not convicting Jameis here. But Joe’s loyalty is to the fans and what’s best for the team. And nothing transpiring in the last 100 days of this investigation gives Joe a good feeling — from Jameis, Bucs officials, the NFL or the alleged victim.

92 Responses to “Jameis Did Not Address Teammates On NFL Investigation”

  1. Pickgrin Says:

    We have nothing to fear but FEAR itself….

  2. OrlandoJoe Says:

    It’s a 6 game suspension. Might as well sign Bridgewater and give him a chance to be the real America’s Quarterback.

  3. Greg Says:

    I think the actual investigation is about over. right now the NFL is making sure they have enough evidence not only for suspension but one that will hold up from the NFL players Association. They don’t want to catch themselves and another is Zeke Elliot situation with constant appeals. Jameis has acted like a guilty person through this whole process by not telling his teammates or the organization that is had his back and a past anything about the situation until it was reported by TMZ. The Buccaneers will bring back Mike Glennon. And trade up to the lake first round and pick a quarterback. I would love to see Jason like fired as a result of this. All of Winston’s behaviors were well noted before the draft.

  4. I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    I like what Orlando Joe says!!! Man played for Louisville and was a Dandy!!! Get him Jason and save your arse!!!!

  5. Buc50 Says:

    I think it would pretty stupid on his part to comment on something with legal ramifications. Better to keep his mouth shut and concentrate on the business of football.

  6. DB55 Says:

    No, Joe is not convicting Jameis here
    Lmao that’s a good one Joe. The Nile is not only a river in Egypt.

  7. BushidoEvans Says:

    Idk if I agree on your take here Joe. I think you just may be a little fearful of the situation. Which is why I visit your site, you don’t have this fake “just reporting the facts” attitude, when there are no facts yet. It’s your genuine opinion which stems from you being a fan of not only Jameis, but the bucs as a whole. I just feel like there isn’t any buzz around this story, which in of itself seems a little ominous. We gotta just wait and see 😩

  8. BUCS1978 Says:

    Agree. If Winston was commenting on this, he has a fool for an attorney. I am sure he was counseled to not comment on it while the investigation is ongoing. Contrary to Joe finding this “quite odd and suspicious”, I find it smart legal advice.

  9. BushidoEvans Says:

    @DB55 Idk if Joe is indicting him, I just think he’s a little anxious/worried like the rest of us. Joe knows that if any of this turns out to be remotely true, then everything changes for Winston and the Bucs for a long time. It isn’t even about the suspension, Jameis could be completely innocent and eat a suspension here. It’s just that if this is true (which I don’t think it is) then it reveals something bigger than football and that is that the Bucs have what would be the equivalent of a habitual sex offender at QB…that changes everything. Thats deeper than football man.

  10. BushidoEvans Says:

    Your heart would sink, it wouldn’t in fact prove anything, but you immediately think about the past if you catch my drift. I like to think Winston is a young kid who made mistakes in his past too, but the anxiety Joe feels is more about facing a reality that may suggest it’s much worse than that…

  11. BigAlbinoDonky Says:

    Might as well trade Jameis for a 2nd round pick and draft Lamar Jackson. Jameis just isn’t the guy.

  12. Eric Says:

    Jameis has lawyers, who would tell him not to say a word to anyone about this.

    I agree the longer it takes the more likely a suspension comes out of it. Smells real bad.

  13. BUCCANOLES01 Says:

    The loner this plays out, the more I believe something big is coming down the pipe. I hope I’m wrong, and I mean dead wrong but the length of this process is unsettling.

  14. DB55 Says:


    It’s one thing to say hey there was an alleged incident with jameis and an Uber driver (back in Jan or whenever joe originally reported it) and then wait until the investigation is resolved then report again.

    It’s another thing entirely to bring up said allegation 3-5 times a weeks for the past 3 months. Plus I may be wrong but I don’t even see any other outlets discussing this, certainly not with the same vigor or consistency.

    Just seems to be like some in the TB media want jameis suspended to serve their own personal interests and desires. Sadly, I thought joe was on Jameis’s side but I’m beginning to question that. Then again, wtf do I know?!

  15. Syl Says:

    It is none of the teammates business. It is none of the NFL’s business if no charges was filed and it was he said she said.

  16. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I agree with Buc50……Jameis would be very foolish to speak about this incident….even a denial can come back to haunt him…..he should keep his mouth shut……..and no memes……..”FHITP”…..that would not be prudent.

  17. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    “One would think a guy like Jameis, a guy who says he’s focused on leadership and has spent a ton of time being counseled by Derrick Brooks, would recognize the value of dropping at least a 30-second statement to his teammates face-to-face on such a critical matter.” – J0E

    Honestly, if it were me and I considered it a non-issue because I was not remotely guilty, I would not bring it up to teammates either. Nothing suspicious about it. And to me, it is clear he is not guilty. It would be hard to reach over the front seat from the back passenger side and grab a woman’s crotch without being seen, wouldn’t it?

    If there was any crotch grabbing at all, which I doubt, it would have been by unnamed guy in the front seat…and Jameis would probably not have seen it happen.

    Then, add the fact that the driver failed to mention two others in the car and admittedly named Jameis because his name was on the account?

    Not guilty.

  18. OrlandoJoe Says:

    Syl, you’re an idiot. If he groped a woman he should be punished for it. If I touch a woman inappropriately then I should probably lose my job too.

  19. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    OrlandoJoe Says
    “It’s a 6 game suspension. Might as well sign Bridgewater and give him a chance to be the real America’s Quarterback.”

    I actually wouldn’t mind Bridgewater as our backup quarterback. I’ve always felt a backup should 1) be able to win games, and 2) be able to gain trade value.

    If Jameis is suspended and Bridgewater plays well, it is instant trade value next year, assuming Licht signs him for 2-3 years.

  20. ndog Says:

    Well if I had a legal issue pending the first think I would do is run to work and tell all my coworkers about it. That sounds like a great idea and sound legal advice. Give me a break, sometimes one must think before saying (in this case typing) something.

  21. Eric Says:

    But if it plays out as the reports say, and there were four people in the car, and three state Jameis was in the back seat, how could that possibly sustain a suspension?

    Seems like they would have to have some semblance of corroboration.

    Then again I am used to real court rooms and due process and whatnot.

  22. ndog Says:

    Don’t forget DB55 he is the 4th best QB in the division, even behind Cam who he was better in every passing statically category.

  23. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    OrlandoJoe, while I am certain Goodell will suspend Winston, I am equally certain Winston is not guilty of this accusation.

    • Driver failed to mention there were three passengers.
    • Driver failed to mention that Jameis was seated in the rear passenger seat.
    • Reaching over the seats from that position would not be impossible to do, but would be very difficult, and would be easily visible.
    • Driver admitted that she named Jameis because it was his name on the account, and she did not recognize him by appearance.
    • The most likely person to grab her, if it actually happened (which is doubtful) is the one who was seated in the passenger front seat, the unnamed passenger.
    • The driver saw the name on the account and could be hoping for a payday given his past accusations.
    • Three against one, and yet too many are taking the drivers side of things.
    • The fact that Uber closed his account means nothing. They closed my wife’s account after her driver claimed she left the back seat ‘messy’. She didn’t. It must have been a previous passenger. But Uber always takes the side of the drivers, not the passengers.

  24. AlteredEgo Says:

    Hopefully it will turn out like the Trump /Russia investigation 😉

  25. OrlandoJoe Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai,

    The driver’s lawyer said that there was only one person in the car with her that night. Jameis Winston.

    The only person who has corroborated Jameis’s story is Ronald Darby. The same person who had his back for the rape charge at FSU.

    I’m not saying that Jameis did it. But I am saying that there are two vastly different stories and if Jameis did this then I hope he is held accountable and that we move on from him as soon as possible. If he’s not guilty then I’m happy to hear it.

  26. SteveK Says:

    Suspended QB= draft baker Mayfield

    Gotta be able to play to win games and make playoffs.

  27. SteveK Says:

    It smells bad that Jameis failed to notify the team of the incident, especially once his Uber was suspended.

    If Jameis gets suspended, don’t wait, don’t hope, draft Baker Mayfield.

  28. DB55 Says:


    What happened to jbf? It’s almost like Sander Phillips has taken over writing the articles. 🤢🤮🤕

  29. Eric Says:

    He is the 4th best qb in the Division, behind three very experienced and outstanding quarterbacks. Brees is a Hall of Fame guy, Ryan and Cam are league MVP’s and super bowl quarterbacks.

    He hasn’t surpassed them within his first three years. Time to go.

    He is a heck of lot closer to them than anyone else we have had recently. And 69 touchdowns before 23 is pretty impressive.

    I’m sure we could draft a guy who could waltz right in and surpass that group.

  30. DB55 Says:


    Stfu! Your agenda is obvious.

  31. BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:

    Like @Bonzai…I too have done a lot of digging into the details (TMZ and others) and it does seem like Jameis and his legal team will have a lot to go to bat with in the court system to nullify this. My hunch is that the NFL does want to stick it to Jameis, not the Bucs folks, and they are trying to line up their best defense for the NFLPA, but moreso the court system. Jameis would go the Zeke route.

    Go Bucs!

  32. DB55 Says:


    These dudes are dumb af. Hence why they been in the basement for 10 years and before Dungy got here forgetaboutit

  33. Lamarcus Says:

    If his team wasn’t backing him why should he address them?

  34. SteveK Says:


    My “agenda”?

    My “agenda” is to see the Buccaneers. Sick in the playoffs, making a run for a super bowl. And, I don’t want them to invest in players with off the field issues. The game is hard enough to win, and hoping Doug Martin would bounce back is a prime example of moving on from a player with off the field issues.

    Are you ok if Jameis gets suspended and we kiss the playoffs? Will you give Koetter and Licht another chance, since Jameis’s pending suspension would potentially torpedo our playoff chances?

    Are you also a FSU 🥜 hugger? That seems clear, but don’t want to assume.

  35. SteveK Says:


    Can you please elaborate? I don’t want to assume anything. It seems to me as if your getting negative/hurling insults/“Uber” defensive on this?

    I just want to know, would you be ok with having a QB of your favorite team suspended 4 games next year?

    We all saw the playoffless results achieved by missing our RB missing games due to suspension last year.

    Are you up for a rinse, lather, repeat?

  36. NFLNut Says:

    Non story … next.

  37. Bobby M. Says:

    Personally I think the NFL is holding the story to fill headlines after free agency and the draft…..That’s been the model that has worked best at keeping them in the conversation year round. Jameis not telling the Bucs officials is telling, the Bucs not making a public spectacle of it is the smart move for the organization. Jerry Jones did that and it did him no favors. I dont think there’s anything there that will warrant more then a suspension unless he’s point blank lied to Bucs officials….If that’s the case, then maybe they sign Cousins….trade Winston somewhere for a #1 and #3…..fill the holes instantly and compete right away.

  38. NFLNut Says:


    And STEVEK, I’ll answer your question even if you asked DB55 … YES, I’d be fine with Jameis being suspended SIX games rather than just 4 and it wouldn’t affect his next contract at all … I’d say the same thing if Stafford, Wentz, Roethlisberger, etc., got suspended for the exact same nonsense, as we know that sort of suspension has nothing to do with actual guilt and everything to do with the whims of Goodell as well as public optics.

    Now, if Jameis or any other QB was suspended for using narcotics or PEDs, NO I would not be fine with that and that QB would have to go!

    And, to the goober who said we should trade Jameis for a 2nd rounder … um, the Browns would trade the #4 and more, the Bills would trade the #21, #22 and more and their are many other teams (Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Ravens, Broncos, Vikings, Cardinals) that would trade a 1st rounder and more for Jameis … and …. Teddy Bridgewater isn’t a real QB … if you want a replacement, go hard after Cousins or use your #7 pick on a guy like Allen and bring in a veteran like Sam Bradford for a year or two to groom him, not Bridgewater!

    Some people have such low football IQs it’s crazy.


  39. 813bucboi Says:

    well I’ll keep it real…..him not telling his teammates is a little suspicion…..

    I agree with @Orlando…….sign teddy ballgame before we are caught with our pants down……

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!

  40. Bucsfanman Says:

    I love all this armchair lawyering! Lets leave it at nobody here has any clue, okay. Because we don’t!
    The Bucs needed a good back-up regardless of this situation. Any speculation beyond that is just stupid.

  41. NFLNut Says:

    ^ Bridgewater SUCKED when he was healthy and he hasn’t played football in forever … you people are loons.

    And, NO, Jameis not making a public address to the entire team is not suspicious and it’s not news, it’s proper legal strategy. He also very well could have chatted with each and every one of them at some point, but simply didn’t call a team meeting over such a silly thing.

  42. Eric Says:


    Go after a guy who tore his own knee out dropping back in practice?

  43. Eric Says:

    Its so sad and obvious to see FSU faithful, dismiss any possibility that Jameis is guilty, some even saying they know for sure he is innocent. This is a BUCCANEERS website for Buc’s fans. This is not a Winston site of worship. Some of you sound like complete idiots making these ridiculous assumptions like your the guy’s best friend. Watching his games and press conferences hardly gets you closer to actually knowing someone. Everyone shows their best self to most people they meet or when they are put on display. Its almost the same as the way people conduct themselves on a job i terview

  44. webster Says:

    You tampa idiots are just that IDIOTS!!!! Suspicious because he did not discuss it? Every lawyer will tell their client to say nothing as there is an active investigation going on. You even see interviews all the time where the accused will always say, i cant really get into that as there is an open investigation. All they will say i am innocent. Jameis has already said in his statement he was innocent. What else is he suppose to say idiots? I truly can not believe how stupid this fan base truly is. Unbelievable and embarrassing.

  45. Bucsfanman Says:

    Ironically, Florida has the most attorneys per capita than any other state!
    I see that many are on this site!

  46. Eric Says:

    Now we have people thinking because they watch Law &Order re-runs that they actually have a clue on legal strategy. One thing I know for sure is that if you are 100% innocent you don’t stay quiet about it, which btw makes you look guilty to the fans….Bucs fans that is. Everytime Ive been falsely accused of something, I scream from the mountain tops to profess my innocence and its worked everytime!
    Get a life Nole Trolls!

  47. Bucsfanman Says:

    I stand corrected. Florida is #10. D.C. has the most! Should’ve known THAT! Oh those lobbyists!

  48. LakeLand Says:

    You should NEVER speak to anyone except your attorney, while you’re the subject of an ongoing investigation. This includes your employer, your teammates etc. All they need to know is that you have denied the allegations.

  49. Eric Says:

    At this point I think drafting a Qb in the first is a good idea. If Jameis is suspended we actually have a highly ranked Qb. If no,t at worst we have a very tradeable commodity. Otherwise our season would be another year without getting in the playoffs and then have to hope we are in a position to draft a Qb next year which means another rebuild. Cutt our losses and trade Winston and get a Qb that can connect on a ball longer than 30 yards on a consistent basis. Too much smoke for there not to be fire Imho

  50. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    OrlandoJoe Says
    “The driver’s lawyer said that there was only one person in the car with her that night. Jameis Winston. The only person who has corroborated Jameis’s story is Ronald Darby. The same person who had his back for the rape charge at FSU.”

    You cannot include anything that happened in college in your judgment of the situation.

    First, the lawyer only repeats what the driver told him/her. You have two people saying there were three passengers. And when that third person steps up, there will be three people.

    At what point do you choose to believe Winston? Or is nothing going to be good enough because you have already made up your mind?

  51. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


    btw…every time I comment to you, it ends up in moderation because ‘Joe’ is part of your name, lol.

  52. LifeOfABucFan Says:

    Every single post that OrlandoJoe has posted…

    is spot on…agree with it all and yeah, let’s go and get Bridgewater..we cannot get caught without a QB..not worth the risk..

  53. OrlandoJoe Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai,

    You can 100% judge him based off of what happened in college. If Doug Martin and OJ Simpson are in a lineup together for a murder case guess who is going to be more suspect. If OJ and Doug Martin are both going to take a drug test, who are you going to bet has it in their system right now if you have to put down a million dollars on it? Come on man. Me and you both know that your past matters when it comes to these type of things. Yes Jameis may be innocent. But there is more reason why I should believe the girl at this point until he’s proven innocent.

  54. Eric Says:

    Yeah the league is full of guys who routinely hit on 30 yard passes.

    And there has got to be a guy in the draft that can do it. And outplay Brees, Newton, and Ryan within three years.

    Bridgewater is just fabulous on the long ball, and very durable.

  55. NFLNut Says:


    I personally am NOT a Seminole fan AT ALL … I simply feel there is ONE AND ONLY ONE WITNESS to what happened and that witness corroborated Jameis side of events while the accuser has no witness, no proof, no nothing … to me, this isn’t even a case and he won’t receive even a one pre-season game suspension.

    HOWEVER, even if Goodell just slaps him with a 6 game suspension, it would still be INSANE to draft a QB in the first round as this team has a ton of NEEDS and a QB is not one of them …. and … Bridgewater is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE idea!

  56. NFLNut Says:


    No, there is not more reason to believe the driver as Jameis has NEVER been arrested or charged, let alone convicted of anything in his entire life. Couple that FACT with the fact that the ONE AND ONLY WITNESS to speak has corroborated Jameis’ side of events and the FACT that the driver has no witness, no proof and didn’t even file a police report, there is ZERO REASON to believe the driver … unless you’re just a Jameis basher …

  57. webster Says:

    @ eric

    I dont know who you were talking about with that law and order comment but if it was me, i do not even watch law and order. Jameis already issued his statement saying he was innocent. What good does it do to repeat it 100 times? It makes you no more innocent or no more guilty. I have a few lawyer friends and they all tell their clients to keep their traps shut. I dont know if you know who timothy cunningham is but he has been missing for 2 weeks. His parents was doing a national interview last night and what do you know? A few of their answers were we can not get into that because their is an open investigation and they are not even accused in the disappearance. Imagined if they were accused? Tampa fans smdh

  58. Rod Munch Says:

    Some #metoo supporter wants an easy payday, what’s to say, everyone knows the deal. As Hillary’s camp once said, “if you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park you never know what you’ll find.” The internet is a vast trailer park were whatever is trending is some piece of trash chance for fame and money – you know until the next trending thing comes along and no one cares about this anymore… and when they’re down to accusing Ryan Seacrest, saying he harassed a WOman, then you know that hashtag is over.

    This will just go away without comment from anyone would be my guess.

  59. Negative Jeff Says:

    Bucs screwed the pooch with this pick. The Bucs blew the #1 pick in the draft. This will be an year long suspension and the Bucs will be forced to cut JW. 2018 = 2 wins. Will have a chance in 2019 for the real franshise QB.

  60. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Funny how all these rando posters show up on threads like this just to sh1t talk Jameis.

    Yeah he should be giving speeches about his innocence to the team…like that’s f*cking normal in these situations…

  61. Negative Jeff Says:

    [Accusing a Bucs player of committing a felony can and will get your run. — Joe]

  62. SteveK Says:


    I argue a six game suspension has a negative effect on the team, our chance for playoffs, and Jameis’ next contract.

    If suspended 6 games, trade him. No need to extend any player that could be suspended for a full year of anything happens again.

    The risk for injury is great enough.

  63. webster Says:

    @ stevek

    You mean how pittsburgh traded big ben twice? Gtfoh

  64. Walter Seidel Says:

    Even Joe is turning…….

  65. Alanbucsfan Says:

    She’s an Uber driver
    He’s a millionaire NFL star
    Unless there is medical evidence of abuse, it’s a money grab by her and lawyer
    Do you really believe a lawyer would take this case if it was some blue collar guy with debt getting a ride home after stumbling out of a bar?

  66. LakeLand Says:

    An Uber Eats driver shot and killed a customer this month in Atlanta. They had some words because the food was late. The Uber Eats driver is a convicted felon. Uber said the felony happen 10 years ago and they only go back 7 years on their background check.

  67. SteveK Says:


    Big Ben is a garbage person, and he does have two super bowl rings. Does Jameis even have a post season appearance?

    Today’s standards for being an ethical person are really in play.

    I am not a Big Ben fan.

  68. I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Here’s a hypothetical for you…. Winston is guilty and is suspended 6 games. You have a chance to get and sign Kirk Cousins and trade Winston for higher draft picks. What do you do???

  69. SteveK Says:


    Was Big Ben suspended at all, or just a piece of human waste?

    I just don’t want my franchise QB to be suspended, is that fair?

    All you sheep 🐑 🐑 🐑 sure are ok with a losing football team!

  70. SteveK Says:

    I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:
    February 28th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
    Here’s a hypothetical for you…. Winston is guilty and is suspended 6 games. You have a chance to get and sign Kirk Cousins and trade Winston for higher draft picks. What do you do?


    Great big picture mindset!

    Why sit around and be held hostage by having our upcoming season torpedoed by a 4-6 game suspension for Jameis?

    Sitting on our hands, and having that go down, would be 10x the travesty of passing on Calais Campbell during last year’s FA.

  71. SteveK Says:

    Lord Cornelius Says:
    February 28th, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    Funny how all these rando posters show up on threads like this just to sh1t talk Jameis.

    Yeah he should be giving speeches about his innocence to the team…like that’s f*cking normal in these situations…


    I’m here since I found this site in 2009-2010. Been through it all.

    I hope Jameis is exonerated of any wrong doing, but if he gets suspended then we need to re-evaluate our QB position so we can make a run for the playoffs next year.

    We aren’t going to the playoffs if we have the distraction of a suspension/ and without Jameis for 6 games.

    You saw how waiting on Doug Martin this year panned out.

  72. DB55 Says:

    If if if if if if but if if if if if how about if

    What IF you just stfu already

  73. doug p Says:

    Draft a QB in the second round!!

  74. JAB83 Says:

    Ok I have to admit, I got my croch grabbed once. I liked it too. However when I found out it was she really wasnt interested I got pissed.

    But I bought a Bud Light and forgot about it. DILLY DILLY

    Sorry to say, women view equally as a free pass to abuse men.


  75. JAB83 Says:

    Point is simple. You cant punish someone legally for something that was/IS JUST PART OF LIFE.

    You tell me he rapped her… IE… Big Ben…. Now I dont want you on my team…

    So if Ben can stay in Pitt…. JW sould not be run out of Tampa

  76. NFLNut Says:



    If Jameis is suspended 6 games it won’t impact his next contract at all imho as it’s not a drug suspension or even a criminal case and most will view it as Gooodell just playing the optics game, rather than Jameis actually doing anything worthy of suspension.


    Many months ago I posted on here that even though I believe in Jameis’ future as well as the future of some other young QBs, any team that could be certain Kirk Cousins would sign with them as a free agent, may be wise to trade their current QB for a King’s ransom. Personally if I was the Titans or Jaguars I’d strongly consider trading the QB I have for a King’s ransom and then signing Cousins as such is a quick way to stock your roster and dramatically improve your football team.

    However, I wouldn’t do that if I was Tampa, Detroit, Oakland, Philly, etc., with QBs that are younger than Cousins by a lot and already better in my estimation, as QB is the most important position.

    This is also why Jameis being suspended SIX games won’t matter to the Bucs at all, nor should it … they’ll just treat it as if he was out 6 games with an injury rather than panic like loons.


  77. Duke Says:


    The problem with the quote from Hillary is, Bill actually did it (Lewinsky). I don’t believe that it’s a good idea to use it defending JW. Just saying.

  78. I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    Thank you NFL nNut.. I like responses that make sense and not off the wall. I think I would have to at least entertain the option and see what I could secure as the Bucs are going to be in trouble again if they don’t get some important pieces..

  79. SteveK Says:

    Good points, NFLNut,

    My rebuttals would be that Koetter and Licht can’t afford to have poor results next year, and missing Jameis for six games would be the nail on their coffin.

  80. Duke Says:

    ^^^^^ and so far the alleged “groupee” hasn’t proposed a settlement. I don’t understand how any allegations that the accuser is making a false charge as part of a potential shake down of Winston is valid until such time as a “settlement” is offered by the accuser.

    If the attorney who represents JW offers a settlement with her and She accepts, at that point I think it’s possible to levy the accusations that this is/was simply a shake down. But, since there’s nothing more than a He said she said it would not be unheard of if her attorney advises her to accept the offer and move on with her life. It happens every day in the justice system when a trial verdict is “iffy”
    or when both sides believe that a jury trial isn’t in the best interests of both parties.

    Point is, the defense of JW, at this point , can’t be that this is a false accusation solely for the opportunity to cash in by the accuser. Because She hasn’t, that completely negates the charge. As to why would the attorney for kinsman get involved if there’s no money. First, He just made a huge payday with another JW case. It’s not surprising that He is back at the feed trough. Also, If you are a business owner , you see this as a promotional opportunity. If advertising among attorneys was free then wtf is up with Morgan and Morgan and the hundreds of other billboards, radio spots, etc . Free advertising is an attorney’s wet dream.

    The NFL shouldn’t keep the Bucs in a position of doubt. However, I could understand the logic of the league just wanting to let this fade away from the public’s attention. If that’s the plan, thanks TB media for forcing the NFL to act.
    If they act, it’s going to be punitive. And it’s that idea that has so many JBF’ s in opposition to the repeated coverage. Media think, Keep poking the bee hive and expect that you won’t get bit vs Fans think, expect that bite.

  81. Eric Says:

    Same people defending Jameis now were the same ones saying he wasnt guilty of anything before the draft. Thats how you kniw IM not some new poster taking shots at Jameis. Btw there are plenty if guys who can throw a 30 yard consistently, just not on out team.
    So many people defending this guy as if he actually won something in the NFL.

  82. SteveK Says:

    Good point Duke!

    I want/demand to know The eligibility of our players. It’s hard enough to win in this league let alone if Goodell is going to drop a Cleveland steamer on our season.

  83. SteveK Says:

    I hear ya Eric!

    We need to win some dam ball games!

  84. Eric Says:

    SteveK, thank you for being living proof that not all Bucs fans are sheep! I was getting worried…

  85. SteveK Says:


    You got it! A lot of fans bring FSU bias with them. And I get it, we are human after all.

    I’m more concerned with winning some games next year, and that is the reason why I believe we can’t afford to have our #1 overall pick suspended for 6 games. That would be the ultimate kick in the balls to our season next year.

  86. Eric Says:

    That should be the focus of every Buc fan. I doubt Oregon fans in Tennessee are such staunch supporters of Mariota. If they were I would give them crap as well. Embrace your NFL team and leave the college for Saturday’s and kids.

  87. cmurda Says:

    You people who would immediately throw JW to the wolves are freaking ridic. I don’t give a flying crap what his suspension is if he gets suspended, the Bucs are not dumb enough to get rid of Winston. I haven’t heard a single thing that makes JW look like he did or did not do what he is being accused of. Let that dust settle. Regardless, he was 23 and young men do stupid things. He will learn not to even put himself in these situations even if he did nothing wrong.

  88. BrianBucs Says:

    I’m not surprised by this at all.
    If it turns out that Winston did what he is accused of, grabbing the crotch of the female Uber driver, then the Bucs should cut him immediately

  89. Jason Mclaurin Says:

    He did it there’s no doubt about but his strongest defense is he was not in the NFL at the time nor had he been drafted. He was just at the combine and the incident didn’t happen at the combine. They are powerless to this which is why it’s getting no publicity. This will be one the NFL does thing behind though and change some policy and strategy for commuting combine athletes

  90. Bang4 YaBuc Says:

    Idk man this whole situation seems fishy. In the height of the #metoo movement this new hit. I don’t think he’ll be suspended. I’m not saying this because I’m a fan. I’m saying this because it just doesn’t sound concrete. We’re going against the word of an Uber driver who did not report the incident to the police but rather told Uber of the account of the incident. Then it took her awhile to bring it to light. Then Ronald Darby jeopardizing himself by getting involved. I think the evidence will come to light that he innocent.

  91. Mr. Ed Says:

    What Buccaneer Bonzai said. Seems like Joes are trying to create drama for the sake of drama. It’s going to play out and no amount of fretting or looking for clues to conspiracy will change the outcome.

  92. Coach Says:

    where’s my comment mediators? it wasn’t disrespectful or divisive. it did not contain any fallacies. no cursing….. so why didn’t you allow my comment?