Corner Help In The Super Bowl
February 4th, 2018
What’s the most important aspect to this evening’s Super Bowl? That’s right! The players in it that might be able to help the Buccaneers next season.
Malcolm Butler fantasies aside, Joe’s here now to focus on Eagles cornerback Patrick Robinson, one of the Eagles’ heroes in the NFC title game against Minnesota. Robinson had four interceptions during the regular season and a pick-6 of Case Keenum two weeks ago.
Robinson turns 31 in September and was the last overall pick of the first round in the 2010 NFL Draft by New Orleans. (Three picks later, the Bucs selected defensive tackle Brian Price.) He’ll be a free agent after the season and, since Super Bowl teams rarely have the cash to keep all their good players, there’s lots of speculation Robinson will hit the market.
He was ok but nothing special for the Saints. A serious knee injury derailed him in 2013. but New Orleans brought him back in 2014. He then bounced to the Chargers and Colts before his special 2017 in Philadelphia.
Robinson should intrigue the Bucs as a versatile cornerback, kind of a better, more experienced version of current Bucs corner Robert McClain, who also could be a free agent in five short weeks.
Robinson won’t command top dollar, and he could be a very interesting fit. There’s no guarantee the Bucs will re-sign Brent Grimes, and there are too many hard Bucs question marks at corner to ignore a guy like Robinson.
February 4th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
He will certainly use FA and the Buc lure to command more money than his worth but this is what happens when you historically are one of the most losing franchises in the NFL. Usually if we get a FA at a good price, almost assuredly that player will suck. So when we do land a decent player we usually overpay them for an average portfolio and get burned i.e. Chris Baker
February 4th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
Here’s a fun fact for you… the Pats beat the Titans and Jags to get to the SB. Do you know what 2 teams tied for the easiest schedule in football in the regular season? That would be the Titans and the Jags.
February 4th, 2018 at 4:52 pm
“Robinson should intrigue the Bucs as a versatile cornerback, kind of a better, more experienced version of current Bucs corner Robert McClain, who also could be a free agent in five short weeks.” – Joe
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Joe,
I didn’t know Vernon Heargraves legally changed his name to “Robert McClain”.
February 4th, 2018 at 5:57 pm
I would love it if the Bucs sign Robinson.
Sign him to a three year deal and he can finish his career back home.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:07 pm
@Rod
I couldn’t agree more. Of course a large contingent here will claim we are simply making excuses.
I take it even further. One of the major reasons for the Patriots amazing run of SB’s is because they play in the AFC clearly inferior to the NFC…and in the worst division at that. They are virtually guaranteed to make the playoffs every year a nice head start to the SB. I’m NOT saying the Patriots suck…just that they are a very lucky team as well as well coached and Quarterbacked.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
@Joe
Thanks for giving me something remotely entertaining to watch tonight. I haven’t had a less enthusiastic view of a SB game since they first began…and as a 70 year old I’ve seen them all.
I’ll be looking for potential Bucs tonight as well as the entertaining commercials.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:12 pm
Funny…we act like all the talented FA’s would like to come here. Seems most that do lately are the Chris Baker semi-retired kind of guy. Better concentrate on the draft.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:18 pm
StPeteBucsFan – It wasn’t a comment on anything, just pointing out a little fun fact I hadn’t heard anyone else bring up. I still think the Pats win today, probably in a close game.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:29 pm
It’s amazing we still have men around who fought in WWII – just incredible.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:37 pm
Rod….LMAO…Vietnam maybe but even my old man has been gone awhile. He actually did fight in WWII.
I guess this is the SB open thread. I’m tired in the NFL of all guys taking it OB rather than absorb a hit for 3-4 more yards. Alshon Jeffrey is a big WR…it’s the Super Bowl guys what are you saving your body for? The Second half? Turn it up field for heavens sake.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
Is the Deja Vu or what. The Eagles blasting the Patriots…just like the Falcons in last year’s first half. Doesn’t mean anything though.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:51 pm
Bernard Reedy is inactive today. Too bad, I was hoping he’d get a kick return or two – such a great story.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:55 pm
The Olympics start this week? Wow, talk about the only thing getting less buzz than this Super Bowl.
February 4th, 2018 at 6:59 pm
Winter Olympics…in Korea…meh.
February 4th, 2018 at 7:06 pm
Another over 30 free-agent request by this site? I guess some never learn. This one is injured way too often and hasn’t been good since he was with the Saints. Since we strive for average around here he would fit right in.
February 4th, 2018 at 7:13 pm
What’s going on? Did these two teams borrow the Buc’s kicking game?
February 4th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
OH S@#$@#! BRANDIN COOKS JUST GOT KNOCKED THE @$@# OUT!!!
YES, this is football!
February 4th, 2018 at 7:39 pm
They just missed a commercial break… someone’s getting fired.
February 4th, 2018 at 8:14 pm
I’m putting the division on notice. Unless we have a great draft and an epiphany by the coaching staff, don’t think anyone will be in the basement at the end of the year but us.
February 4th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
Anyone notice a difference in play calling, lol!! Nah, we’re good though. SMDH
February 4th, 2018 at 8:46 pm
Half-time adjustments… something we’ve never seen from Dirk.
February 4th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
If we only had a running back like Blount. Where the heck did that guy come from?
February 4th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
^^^^ LOL ^^^^
February 4th, 2018 at 9:12 pm
If we had an OL like the Pats with Barber running the ball all yr. then We would be in the playoffs. IMO
February 4th, 2018 at 9:22 pm
Defense may very well win Division Championships…but anymore, it doesn’t seem to show up in Superbowls.
February 4th, 2018 at 9:39 pm
…and to think they started off this game on TV by trying to compare this Eagles defense to the Bucs all-time great defense.
February 4th, 2018 at 9:48 pm
During the season when the Bucs defense couldn’t stop anyone the Bucs would get to the opponents 40 yard line and it’d be 4th and 3 and Dirk would punt the ball every single time. That’s the difference between a loser and winner. Eagles HC knew the Pats would score, so it doesn’t matter if they score from midfield or if they score from the 10 yard line, it results in 7 points in either case – so GO FOR IT. Dirk NEVER did that the entire year and each time the opposing team would just score a TD and the game would be over.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:03 pm
Typical that NOBODY talks about Van Noy not getting the PI call there. I just rewound and Van Noy was touching him for SEVEN freakin Frame advances.!
February 4th, 2018 at 10:06 pm
Nevermind Justice was served on the very next play.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:09 pm
… game ain’t over yet…
February 4th, 2018 at 10:11 pm
Razzle dazzle on the kickoff return? Huh..
Wow. OK maybe it is over.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:14 pm
Jameis went 90+ yards in under a min to beat the Saints.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:18 pm
With any luck the slobs in Philadelphia will burn down that s-hole.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:20 pm
Sacksmatter!
February 4th, 2018 at 10:22 pm
I liked it better when the Eagles were a loser city like Atlanta.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:24 pm
Who here put a $1-million or more on the Eagles? What was your payoff?
February 4th, 2018 at 10:25 pm
Big plays matter. They only had one sack of Brady all game but it was the biggest play of the game.
Glad to know that Brady choked that wide open reception in the first half…Foles doesn’t choke his catch and gets seven…and Cris Collinsworth pointing that out says well…Foles is younger than Brady. OUCH. Wonder if Brady will ever talk to Collinsworth again. He’s VERY sensitive about his age. LMAO
Gotta admit it was an exciting game…of course if NE had won I’d be upset. LOL
How great was it to see the look of sadness on Brady, Kraft and Belicheats face.
Keep it in the AFC boys and be thankful you don’t have to face an NFC schedule all year.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:26 pm
Hope our coach was taking notes on how to coach our team. Hopefully he learned something.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:27 pm
Rod
Do you like any city outside the state of Florida. You’ve insulted most of America’s great cities from the Twin Cities to now Philly. Have you ever travelled outside the Sunshine state?
February 4th, 2018 at 10:30 pm
I Hate the way Collinsworth keeps bringing up the Obvious td by Philly as a “questionable call that we will be Talking about” and Completely ignores the Egregious Non PI call on Van Noy. Lol. Fu CC even though you used to be a Gator!
February 4th, 2018 at 10:33 pm
StPeteBucsFan – I don’t like any city even in FL except for my hometown. This is a Bucs site and if you’re a real fan you root for every other team to fail miserably – in particular the slobs in Philadelphia.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
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TOM BRADY SUCKS … STATS ARE FOR LOSERS … HE CAN’T EVEN BEAT NICK FOLES … HE WAS ONLY SACKED ONE TIME AND HE FUMBLED THE GAME AWAY AND CHOKED ON THAT ONE AND ONLY SACK … BRADY COULDN’T EVEN PULL OFF THE DRIVE JAMEIS DID AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN HE WON THE GAME ON A 90+ YARD DRIVE WITH NO TIMEOUTS LEFT … WOW, THE PATRIOTS SHOULD TRADE BRADY FOR NICK FOLES RIGHT NOW ….
#TrollTheTrolls
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February 4th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
SB
Agree….dude caught the ball at the five yard line..took three steps in possession and then clearly dove for the goal line and broke the plane before he or the ball hit the ground. That call wasn’t even close the receiver had clearly become a runner at that point…clearly in possession of the ball…he didn’t dive to catch it…he dove AFTER he caught and ran five freaking yards!!!!
I thought Collinsworth had his worst SB ever…but he’s set the bar very high so he’s entitled to an off game.
They need to fix the dang rule on what constitutes a catch anyway. I NEED more offense. Go to the college rule…one foot in bounds is enough.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:35 pm
Bellichick BENCHED Malcolm Butler … he will NEVER play for the Patriots again … it’s not a fantasy to sign him, it’s a realistic possibility!
February 4th, 2018 at 10:36 pm
I concur fully SPBF! Great minds and all
And to NFLNut…….Kudos on that troll of the trolls!
February 4th, 2018 at 10:37 pm
SB- think he was making it a point to show the hypocrisy of the NFL and their replays. That play was almost identical to Jessie James catch, he is on record about saying how bad the rule is and how it isn’t fair to the wide receivers. I think he was just shoving up the NFLs are a little (just the tip)
February 4th, 2018 at 10:38 pm
Rod
Don’t get me wrong I’m not a supporter of Philly fan…the ONLY fight I’ve ever come close to having at a sporting event was a Philly fan next to me at a Lightning game. But Philly has more than just Philly fans and it’s actually a pretty cool city.
Like you I root against the other teams but not against all their fans…just Philly, Boston and Yankee fan. LOL
February 4th, 2018 at 10:39 pm
#TrollThe Trolls should be carved in stone!! great post
February 4th, 2018 at 10:41 pm
NFLnut
Are we sure Butler was healthy? Did I hear them say he did play on special teams? His crying at the start of the game was just weird although I too personally love America the Beautiful. Seems though if he had been benched he would have been peoed…crying made me wonder if a health issue kept him out.
But I don’t know and I totally agree with you..if he was benched we’ve got some warm weather and no taxes here in Tampa. 🙂
February 4th, 2018 at 10:42 pm
Looking at these super bowl quarterbacks not turning the ball over makes me more pissed off Jamies turns the ball over and how immature Jamies is as a Quarterback
February 4th, 2018 at 10:44 pm
StPeteBucsFan – Nah, I root against the team and the fans, it’s more fun that way. If my team can’t win, I want everyone else to lose.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:45 pm
Just a reminder the Bucs won the Super Bowl 15 years ago… in 2002… back when more than half the nation didn’t have internet, it was year 1 of the SB being broadcast in HD and the iPhone was still a half decade away.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:46 pm
No SPBF, I don’t think Butler was healthy. They showed him crying during the Anthem and Collinsworth’s co-announcer said that it was easier to get information from East Berlin before the wall came down than it was to get injury information from the Pats.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:49 pm
SB
Yeah that was a great line from Michaels about the Pat’s secrecy.
Meanwhile in his post game newser Belicheat was all class…NOT.
He spent the first minute describing the Pats mistakes and basically suggested they lost the game rather than Philly beating them. He did conclude by acknowledging that the Eagles are a good team and you have to play your best to beat them.
Great coach…miserable human being.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:52 pm
No whining about the ex Bucs that just won rings. Congratulate them and move on.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:53 pm
Wait, I was wrong, the SB in 2003 wasn’t the first broadcast in HD. Actually it was the 2000 SB that was the first in HD. Who in the world had an HDTV in Jan 2000?
Anywho my fault for giving out fake news, I’ll take the beating.
February 4th, 2018 at 10:55 pm
I hope Joe gives us some more local flavor articles from up there, like now that the game is over do people do anything or just go to their hotel since it’s below zero and they don’t want to go anywhere.
February 4th, 2018 at 11:00 pm
I know very well our past with the Eagles, but having won their first Super Bowl, and knowing how it feels, good for them.
February 4th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
I took a lot of joy in making fun of Eagles fans for being losers – this really stinks.
February 4th, 2018 at 11:07 pm
I agree again SPBF. With you being an ex-journalist, why is it that they get hmmmm…….less ethical and more opinionated……at and advanced age?
You obviously have not succumbed to that method. It was almost disgraceful how penalties were not being called on the Pats but Every time they were called or “Not on their Favor” CC and AL spent a bunch of OUR tv time on it. I hope CC is never allowed to call a SB again
February 4th, 2018 at 11:09 pm
But I have a Thousand feet of Crown Molding to get on tomorrow so I must say goodnight. Peace out to all Bucs Fans!!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!
February 4th, 2018 at 11:15 pm
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I believe Malcolm Butler was definitely healthy, certainly more healthy than Gronk and Brady … and that Bellichick BENCHED him.
You don’t play an injured guy on special teams … if he’s hurt, he’s hurt. I believe he was benched and that he will NEVER play for Bill and the Pats again.
There was talk all year that he was frustrated with the Patriots as they seemed to have no interest in signing him to a new contract, then basically agreed to trade him to the Saints before that deal fell apart, and also gave a monster contract to the Bills CB Stephone Gilmore … I would be SHOCKED if Malcolm Butler returns to the Patriots and I would also be SHOCKED if the Patriots franchise him as they obviously don’t feel he’s worth that kind of money.
I would say the Buccaneers have a very, very realistic shot at signing Malcolm Butler and I believe that Koetter, Smitty, Kwon, GMC, LaVonte and Grimes (if he’s coming back) should all call Malcolm right after the free agency bell rings to tell him to come to Tampa!
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February 4th, 2018 at 11:24 pm
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By the way … BASICALLY NO DEFENSE WAS PLAYED IN THE SUPER BOWL … NONE!
There were more total yards gained in this game than have ever been gained, in any game, in the history of the NFL …
Would we really be all that shocked to see the Bucs sign and draft with more of a focus on the offensive side of the ball than on the defensive side? I’m not so sure.
To me, DE, CB and SS are HUGE needs, but I also think that the O-Line needs help and RB is a huge need as well.
Would everyone be all that shocked to see the Bucs draft Quenton Nelson in the first, Will Hernandez in the second, Rashaad Penny in the 3rd and Desmond Harrison in the 4th? That would be four offensive players with our first four picks, yet all would be “need” players and possible the BPA in each case as well … however if we do that, we better go hard in free agency on the defensive side of the ball … Malcolm Butler, Ziggy Ansah, Eric Reid and Justin Ellis would be amazing!
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February 4th, 2018 at 11:34 pm
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“They gave up on me, **** it, it is what it is.” – MALCOLM BUTLER
SIGN HIM JASON LICHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 5th, 2018 at 12:05 am
NFLNut, go check your history on guards drafted in the top 10. There’s only been 3 since the year 2000 and 2 of the 3 have been clear busts and the other one was mostly a bust, except for like 2 years. You don’t draft guards in the top 10.
February 5th, 2018 at 12:13 am
^ Rod … scouts are saying Quenton Nelson can be an ALL-PRO (not just a “Pro Bowler”) as a rookie and that he is a generational talent … I’m not saying I would draft him at #7 but I think the Bucs might.
February 5th, 2018 at 12:15 am
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Can you imagine if the Bucs make the SB next year and Koetter BENCHES Brent Grimes in favor of Ryan Smith for no conceivable reason … and the Bucs then get torched by Landry Jones (Ben Roethlisberger’s backup) and lose the SB?
Dirk Koetter would be run out of town faster than he could say “Bellichick” … yet that is exactly what Bill Bellichick did in benching former SB hero and starting corner Malcolm Butler … wow.
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February 5th, 2018 at 1:12 am
The CB to get is Malcolm Butler.
February 5th, 2018 at 2:18 am
NFLNut – Yeah I know the hype, and you’d have to be near that level of a talent to be considered that high at G, but even with that, that’s a tough call to make. Would someone with an all-pro guard take the 7th overall pick for them AND give you something else in addition to it? I think so – and that’s why it’s hard to consider him that highly. BUT if he’s truly a generational talent, and that shows up at the combine and that run on QBs doesn’t occur and everyone is off the board, then I guess you take him – but top 10 for a guard is a tough call in my opinion. I wouldn’t be outraged by the pick or anything, I’d just have my “guard” up about it. Get it??! I used guard in my sentence, thus proving why I was rated the top poster here.
February 5th, 2018 at 3:09 am
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RodMunch … I agree with you for the most part … I actually have a feeling the Broncos are going to draft him at #5 after they sign Kirk Cousins … and that we will end up trading down with the Bills and nabbing BOTH Marcus Davenport AND Arden Key … if we can do that and sign Malcolm Butler along with either Aquib Talib after Denver cuts him, or Brent Grimes, are pass defense should be vastly improved, especially as I see us either signing a starting SS like Eric Reid or Tre Boston or drafting a guy like DeShone Elliot out of Texas …
We’ll see what happens, but for now, below is how I’m thinking the top 7 picks will play out:
1. Browns: Saquon Barkley, RB
2. Jets (trade up with Giants): Josh Rosen, QB
3. Colts: Bradley Chubb, DE
4. Browns: Sam Darnold, QB
5. Broncos: Quenton Nelson, OG
6. Dolphins or Cardinals (trade up with Giants): Josh Allen, QB
7. Bills (trade up with Buccaneers: Baker Mayfield
Note: I have the Giants ultimately drafting LT Mike McGlinchey and sticking with Eli and Davis Webb who they drafted in the 3rd round last year and seem to be extremely high on
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February 5th, 2018 at 5:45 am
Malcolm Buter is NOT an elite CB.
He is hard-nosed and hard-working but he lacks elite quickness and speed.
He is the next Alteraun Verner.
Do NOT sign Butler.
February 5th, 2018 at 7:52 am
I’m starting to fall in love with this Josh Jackson kid from Iowa. Big physical kid and looks the part of a shutdown corner
February 5th, 2018 at 8:50 am
Wait we have vh3…..
February 5th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
NFLNut – I can see that too 6 going that way but I’m not sold on Buffalo giving up both of its 1st’s – if they will then I think it’s a no brainer. Anywho speculation is all we got at this point and for the next 3 1/2 months. BTW I hate May drafts.
February 5th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
Fill CB and S with Free Agency. Use the draft to stock the trenches. When you have the equivalent of Philly’s Defensive and Offensive Lines then you have a shot at the playoffs. Koetter has generated a lot of yards this year but doesn’t use a good number of surefire Red Zone trick plays, and plays it too safe all the time. And our DC played too much non aggressive defense all year. He needs to go to an aggressive three four Defense with press corners.