Sweet & Sour Finish By Jameis

December 31st, 2017

Massive highs and lows on display today

Here we are, 45 Jameis Winston starts are in the books and his ball security is, well, brutal.

At least he’s finally healthy — and a dramatic winner.

Jameis busted a personal nine-game losing streak as a starter today in wild fashion, engineering a 95-yard drive to beat the Saints and Drew Brees.

It was the ultimate high after a garbage build up.

What the heck was that out there today from America’s Quarterback? The NFL leader in fumbles, Jameis, reverted back to his old favorite pastime: dumb interceptions. All three of his today were all on him and of the needless variety.

Jameis wrapped up this season with 11 interceptions in 13 starts.

He’s 18-27 as a starter. Marcus Mariota is in the playoffs.

Yes, Jameis is young, but enough is enough. Forty-five starts is not a cup of coffee; it’s a freakin’ gallon jug. There is no excuse for his ball security. Heck, Mike Glennon protected the ball a heck of a lot better as a rookie than Jameis ever has.

But then there’s the sweet side of Jameis. The talent, the will, the unrelenting work ethic and the ravenous desire to win and fight to the whistle. Joe adores all that and there’s so much to work with.

There won’t be a new coach or offensive coordinator for Jameis, but there certainly could and should be a new QB coach. Joe’s not blasting Mike Bajakian, but three years is plenty of time for him. Get a new voice in Jameis’ ear on the details. Maybe it makes a difference in the turnovers.

110 Responses to “Sweet & Sour Finish By Jameis”

  1. Tee in Dallas Says:

    Bitter sweet as hell. I disagree on the first interception. Looked like Mike gave up on the route. But still Jameis ball security is atrocious. What the hell was he doing throwing the ball 51 times? Dirk looking at you. We know he turns it over. Run the damn ball!

  2. BucfaninMi Says:

    Thank you for not tanking! The draft is a gamble.

  3. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Agreed, Joe! I prefer Jekyll and Hyde Jameis.

  4. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    If Mariota makes a playoff run, Licht will look like a dumba$$. Please no!

  5. Buc Fan in NC Says:

    If only Jameis was in the AFC south like MM. We have the better QB while MM plays in a cupcake division. Today he wasn’t great but was great at the end with the ball in his hands in a realistic opportunity to win. Way to end it JW3.

  6. sickofit Says:

    Still waiting for ‘86 to tell me how turnovers in college don’t translate over to the NFL….

  7. Nate Says:

    love the win…..

    but I’m sorry I’m bringing in a qb…..one with talent not a backup 50yr old vet or a walk on

    to push jameis ….he is too comfortable to not be reckless with decision making

    IF the bucs don’t ….you fans and the glazers are a J.O.K.E

    even if your a jameis fan ….if I don’t have anyone to threaten my job



  8. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    It’s frustrating!!!!!

  9. FFS Says:

    Americas turnover machine

  10. Nate Says:

    in the draft btw*

    one with talent…..3rd round whatever/trade up 2nd round whatever

  11. BucfaninMi Says:

    Nate, they should always draft a QB,and bring in as many vets as possible in to training camp!

  12. Sunny Says:

    There goes Chubbs

    Hopefully keys or Ferrell fall to us, meaningless game , costing us a chance at chubbs , taking a L in a W , it’s a bucs life , only the bucs find ways to lose

  13. Bucnut2 Says:

    All the spin in the world can’t change this, we will NEVER be a winning team unless these dumb TO stop. Blame whomever you want. For me, its on Winston. Look at the 3 games Fitz started, he was 2-1. Same play caller, same bad running game, same OL, same Defense and the lesser talent won 66% of his games. Winston is now 18-25 as a starter, 45%. We’ll never get to the playoffs winning six games a year which is what his trend is.

  14. JimmyJack Says:

    The turnover is where I question Dirks progression. Especially on that third INT. There is no reason why your QB needs to throw that ball in that game situation.

    If Winston doesn’t know it you need to be prepared and be in his ear on the headset…….And if you are in his ear and he makes that throw anyways he needs to hear it on the sideline. More discipline and accountability needs to be preached with this guy.

    I’m hoping that the benching on Baker today is a sign that Dirk will start demanding more of his players……Two years in and he still has lots to prove that he can discipline this team

  15. BucfaninMi Says:

    It’s a division rival, never tank!

  16. AlteredEgo Says:

    feeling good….have seen the future….

  17. NFLNut Says:

    Joe, how about an article with less of an “opinion” and more of a statistical FACT, as in:

    Jameis is now:

    #1 ALL-TIME in passing yards before his 24th birthday

    #1 ALL-TIME in passing TD’s before his 24th birthday

    Believe me, I wanted the Bucs to lose today to secure the #5 pick … but that beautiful game-winning TD pass Jameis threw was the TD pass that gave him MORE TD PASSES THAN ANYONE IN NFL HISTORY before their 24th birthday …

  18. NFLNut Says:

    Also … Jameis stats through his first 45 games are still better than Peyton Mannings and WAY BETTER than Ben Roethlisberger and Brett Favre, the two QB’s he most often compared to …

  19. Bucnut2 Says:

    Nut- let’s talk Josh Freeman, only one stat matters and winston is a loser

  20. Kansas95Buc Says:

    So Del Rio got fired………

  21. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Jameis had three turnovers and could easily have five. Thank god he didn’t , because the last drive is what has and will be expected of him.
    Jameis probably appreciates the effort by Mike Smiths decimated defense
    and the much maligned special teams,because without either one we never had a chance to finish. Three turnovers usually gets you beat. I am also for a new QB coach,but change has to come from within Jameis,

  22. NFLNut Says:

    This game also proved football is the ultimate TEAM sport … the past two games, Jameis was near perfect, yet the Bucs TEAM lost both games … today he had a rough, albeit “clutch” game, and yet the Bucs beat the division champ in their own house …

  23. Nate Says:

    @ buc fan in NC

    well wishing that jameis is in a better division is a backwards mentality …..reactive not proactive

    Iron sharpens iron….if we were in the AFC we would still lose to brady or roth

    give jameis comp glazers while picking good players around him….or he will ALWAYS BE IN THE I CAN THROW 3 PICKS AND WIN IT IN THE END MENTALITY….

    which he been in since college…..it could of easily been 6 picks…..

    your not getting chubb or the LSU guy now so might as well fix it the long way through early and late picks while giving him a comp qb in the middle

  24. AlteredEgo Says:

    Jason in sweating bullets….LOL….one more off season swing….

  25. BobbyBucs Says:

    We are in trouble if JW gets suspended next season

    Maybe we should draft a QB (rd4 – 7)??

  26. Joel Says:

    Knock him all you want next week Joe. But he won. Enjoy it

  27. Bucnut2 Says:

    nut- are perfect, have you forgotten the he came into this game with 9 TO inch last 5 games, leads the NFL in fumbles and fumbled 3 times last week leading 10 points and we lost by 3???? what are you thinking?

  28. Bird Says:

    NFL nut.

    We know.

    Jameis is the best ever.

    His farts are the loudest.

    His preaching (eating ws ). The best.

    The way he fills out a jersey. Tight as hell.

    His qb rating in the 3rd quarter of games when its raining and above 83 degree
    Is the best ever

  29. JonBuc Says:

    I love the Joes’ and admire their dynamic website. They are handsome devils and ladies swoon after both their minds and bodies. ( Testing why I’m in Moderation Nation all day 🙂 )

  30. Tomorn Says:

    Saquon Barkley

  31. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Del Rio comes here as DC and Chucky pin cushion dolls reign in One Buc Place as Gruden wins multiple Sb’s in Vegas.

  32. Bird Says:


    You are right. Great minds think a like.
    Nates have to stick together.

  33. NFLNut Says:

    Jameis last 5 games since returning from his shoulder injury:

    Completion %: 67.2% ELITE
    Yards Per Game: 316.8 ELITE
    TDs to INTs: 9 TDs and 5 INTS – FAIR to GOOD but not elite

    Extrapolated over a full 16 game season:

    Yards: 5,069
    TDs: 29

  34. JimmyJack Says:

    This game proves to me we are better then our record says we are.

    We just don’t play with the mindset and confidence of a winning team.

    The Saints gave us everything we had and we made plays. Good teams make plays like the big ones we made today. We needed our defense to step up and make one play on their final drive and they delivered.

    Most football games are one in the final possessions. We have the QB that can win us the game with the ball in his hands…..We need more players that can make the big plays to get us into the fourth quater.

    And yes Winston does need to play smarter and make bette4 decisions. We need that to be coached into his game. That s3cond int was a good play to take off and run with the ball and slide for positive yards. They need to unleash Winston and let him do that. The third int was completely unacceptable. Your QB should never ever make that throw……It’s a game situation call. He needs to be taugh5 better

  35. Nate Says:

    @ NFL nut
    Matt Stafford has thrown 4k yards every year since the first two

    passing yards while throwing 3 picks….that could of been 6 if they weren’t dropped

    love a win …but I’m not popping bottles like the lions or parading down dale mabry highway


    PERIOD…no thinking about it and saying but this is what I do

    no point almost cost us the game again…3YRS UNDER 20 POINTS AVERAGE…..if special teams doesn’t give us a TD we lose…..fix everything around jameis in between….


  36. NFLNut Says:

    Bird …

    We know, Jameis is the worst QB in history, he only throws picks, he has always had an elite run game, O-Line and defense but he personally makes them worse, he has always had a genius coach but he makes them idiots, the world will one day end in a nuclear war caused by Jameis


  37. BucfaninMi Says:

    Get Caldwell for OC and JacK Del Rio for DC

  38. NFLNut Says:


    What I said are FACTS … you don’t like facts … that’s your problem, not mine.

    BTW spending a 3rd round pick on a QB when this team has major holes at RB, G, T, DE, DT and SS … is idiotic … thank God YOU re NOT the Bucs GM … LOON

  39. Buc Fan in NC Says:

    Bucnut 2 look at the teams Fitz beat. Jameis wasn’t good til it mattered most. And we won because of special teams making a play, the defense finally getting a stop and Jameis being clutch when we needed it the most. Team win today

  40. NFLNut Says:

    Raiders just fired Jack Del Rio … deal with Gruden in place?

  41. Lamarcus Says:

    Pretty good way to end the season. Proud of JW securing a W for the team.

  42. I'm tired and 87 is right Says:

    I think it’s talked about countless times here. A WIN is a WIN! This team has shown how it’s hard to find a win. In fact we have beat ourselves all year. This WIN will go further then our draft pick position. We play to WIN, and we play to find the best players for this team! Most might actually already be here. They just needed to see this WIN! Go Bucs!

  43. Lamarcus Says:

    3 ints don’t mean a thing in a WIN

    As in his positive stats don’t matter in a LOSS.

    JW mostly importantly will win MVP next year.

  44. Rod Munch Says:

    Fun fact, the Titans have played the easiest schedule in the league since Mariota was drafted. Put the Titans in the NFC South and they’re a 3-13 team.

    Also Favre, in his first 3 years as a starter, had a total of 77 INTs and fumbles. Winston is in the mold of Favre, not Rodgers or Brady, but Favre, the all-time INT leader. That’s what gunslingers do, they throw 3 INTs and then brush it off and take their team 95 yards in under 2 mins with no timeouts. Well that’s what they do unless Dirk is playing for a FG like he did in the other 15 games this season.

    Anywho Mariota is Jeff Garcia – and like TO said, I smell a rat, at least when this site is out of the blue talking up the walking IR that is Mariota.

  45. JimmyJack Says:

    Nut……Another fact is that if Winston is going to reach elite status he will have to become a winning QB.

    Now if he gets better play around him then we very likely see his turnovers go down…….But this team, or any team, will not consistently win if the QB is a league leader in turnovers.

    There is still more improvement to be made for Winston to truely be in the same catergory with elite QBs.

  46. Eric Says:

    Like the kid is the first young QB with turnover issues.

    The heart and the skills are there.

    He got up, brushed himself off, and won the game.

    Great stuff!!!

  47. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Not a lot of excuses on the picks, but in the games where he fumbled, the sack numbers were high or the snaps were botched.

  48. SOEbuc Says:

    Haha funny thing I said yesterday I think was giving Jameis props for having 18 picks last year and 8 this year when so many people were hating about those. He could of likely had two more tonight cus I saw him throw it into triple coverage at least twice and luckily the defenders dropped it. I believe his growth will continue in time and I’m soo happy he took it 95-yards for the win against the Saints. Defenitly gonna give at least our players more confidence about next season.

  49. Rod Munch Says:

    Al Davis was asked shortly before his death about the Gruden trade and he something along the lines of, yeah, we lost in the SB to him, but what did he do after that? He said the Raiders also got back to the SB without him and didn’t think Gruden made any difference in the game (which I agree, the defense afterall outscored the Oakland offense that day). He said the bounty they got for Gruden was a good haul.

    It was something along those lines, not an exact quote. If the Raiders really are going to give Gruden part of the team and pay him like $8-mil a year. LOL! Take the money Gruden, take it.

    For me, here in Tampa, I’d spend the money and effort hiring Dungy, then once he builds a SB winning team Gruden can come back for a one off.

  50. AlteredEgo Says:

    RM…Jameis’s mechanics on bad plays and successful plays need to be cut and strung together and played over and over….
    that and #13 …needs a personal trainer….he is soft

  51. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    The best thing about this season?

    Ira’s podcasts. Hopefully well get 3 per week next season!

  52. lambchop Says:

    Winston still doesn’t understand how not to throw into not double, not triple, but quadruple coverage. Is he really that delusional? If he can ever get those demons exercised, the sky is the limit. But, his decision making is questionable. Some how the rag tag defense kept this game close and made me cry that we lost the #5 draft pick. Now we sit at a precarious #7 where it’s all too dangerous for these suits to screw it up!

  53. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    This shows we can beat anyone. Lots of issues this season and no way anyone can just point to one or two things. If the coaches couldnt figure it out no way any fan is going to.
    Maybe they did though. This team has felt like they have played much harder recently and have been in every game. Gives me hope for next year. Defense needs retooled for sure and Jamie’s needs to play like he did in December.

    I wanted us to lose going into this game but the way it was playing out I was getting so pumped on every big play I couldnt possibly be mad we won. How bucs fans come in here after that win and are negative blows my mind. Its the Jameis loathers whining about turnovers in a comeback victory. Then theres the lose a few draft slot cry babies. Who cares we just beat dem Saints!

  54. NFLNut Says:


    I agree Jameis needs to cut down on the turnovers … but … I believe a good running game is all he needs to do that … right now EVERYTING is ON HIS SHOULDERS … Saquon would have been great but the draft is loaded with good RBs again this year

  55. Lakeland Says:

    Tennessee, Jacksonville and Buffalo is in the playoffs. I’m glad that these 3 teams has ended their drought.

  56. Bird Says:

    NFL nut

    Now stop. He is best ever. The fact that he only won 3 games this year is coaches fault. Sorry. You school everyone with stats. Lesson learned for me. His 3 picks today were just like the rest

    Hanging out with you must be like having dhiarrea for a month.

  57. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Rod Munch, Gruden did make a difference. Raiders players said the Bucs defense knew everything they would do, and players like Sapp, Lynch, Barber and Brooks have all said that Gruden prepared them so well that they were ready for everything the Raiders threw their way.

  58. Lakeland Says:

    Why did Lovie Smith get all of the blame? In 2015 his defense was 10th in total yards. They gave up 26 points a game, but the offense also committed 28 turnovers. And the team led the league in penalties. But now it’s all Jameis Winston fault. Yet Jameis committed more turnovers in 2015 (which Lovie was fired) than he has in 2017.

  59. Lamarcus Says:

    And then. Ppl nitpick this guy JW nd his turnovers Yet I haven’t seen a turnover that sealed a game from Jw. His turnovers do and will come back to bite on a sorry team theroically and reality. A straight up loser will always say ” yeah we had a fumble in the 2nd quarter and it’s why we loss”.???????? I can do with JW turnover problem now and he learns then say when he is 28 years old and still have those issues like most QBs still do.

    Nope. I’m one of the few that think JW turnovers are a non issue. In hindsight he is not sealing games out there. Like the defense who sealed more losses than unit on this team.

  60. JimmyJack Says:

    I agree Nut. We surely need a running game. It is limiting what we can do on offense…..You look at a lot of Winston’s completions and all he does is have to throw into coverage. That’s because there is no respect for our rush.

    Another telltale sign is how low our YAC numbers are…..Havin* a few wide open looks, like Bress had today would be huge for Winston.

    Reguardless if you look at Winston’s third pick today it was an absolute horrible play. Any playmakers we add to this team will not change the fact that Winston will be in thAt Same game situation countless times in his career. He has a very poor reputation of making consistent bad decisions in that spot. He simply has to get better in that spot…..It’s all on him. I also believe coaching could go a long way for him to recognize those situations and know that he has to use his head.

  61. Eric Says:

    Also Jameis wouldn’t have had to win the game if the defense hadn’t crumbled after we took the lead on the Ginn fumble.

    But he really needed to do that and the team did too going into next year. More confidence in their leader.

    Give him a reliable running game and a defense that can hold a lead and we’re fine. Glazers may have done the right thing. This game says a lot about Dirk IMO.

  62. BobbyBucs Says:

    Tomorrow is a new year – Let’s go into 2018 supporting our Bucs and the coaching staff

    At the end of the day, we are all fans, and we want to win!

    Happy New Year everyone!!

  63. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – You’re nuts if you think that all-time great Bucs defense needed any help beating Oakland. I know what the players say, and I also know the Eagles were a much better team than Oakland and the Bucs held them to 10 points and scored 7 themselves. Also that 10 points against the Eagles is inflated since they got that huge opening kickoff return, without that the Eagles probably don’t score 10. Also the only reason the Raiders even got the points they had were what, a turnover on offense lead to early FG, a blocked punt by Tupa which was a TD, a completely BS we need to make the score closer instant replay fraud where they gave the Raiders a free TD and the only legit score of the day by the Raiders, the blown coverage on Rice when the MLB didn’t get his drop deep enough. The Bucs were coasting in that game and there wasn’t an offense that has ever played that would have beaten that Bucs defense on that day.

  64. The Buc Realist Says:

    While the turnovers need to stop, he is getting too isolated in the offense were he is force to throw into situations that favor the defense!!!!!! Between the non-deep ball, and lack of a consistent running game, it does not leave much space for the offense to operate!!!!! The offense must be better to make it easier on JW3!!!! The offense will have to be more dynamic next year!!!! They need to upgrade the RB’s!!!!!! The Front office needs to find Guards that can play!!!!!!!! and JW3 will have to work to become consistent and accurate, especially on the deep ball!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Bucs Offense cannot just be good at intermediate passes and nothing else!!!!!!! Its too much pressure and to easy to create turnover from as every team knows what is coming!!!!!!!

    Great Win!!!!!!! Amazing what can happen when confidence is shown like it should have been much earlier this year!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  65. dexterOHMAN Says:

    If Mike Smith is fired would that be announced tomorrow?

  66. Richard Dickson Says:

    This was always going to be Jameis. I just thought we’d get some Favre-ian numbers to go along with the Favre-ian interceptions.

  67. SOEbuc Says:

    Hahaha speaking of Mariota and turnovers, that fumble where him and his RB ran into each other and the Jags took it back for the TD was the most hilarious thing I’ve seen all year. Especially because I wanna throw a brick threw my TV every time a team does some lame ass celebration. Why don’t you guys go practice and think of more football than some stupid a$$ celebration. Couldn’t do those things with the Bucs this year so maybe that’s the only reason I enjoyed sucking so badly.

  68. JimmyJack Says:

    Look at Ben Roth…..He has made a living off of big plays with receivers wide open……And why does he get so many easy plays while our QB rarely does? Running game…….Its what this offense needs.

    Part of the reason I wanted Dirk fired is for misevaluation his own player Doug and bringing him back. They better get it right this yea4 or this coach is doomed……..Our running scheme also sucks out loud…..The6 need to make a serious adjustment

  69. Rod Munch Says:

    I think the average IQ of the Jameis haters is about the same as my left shoelace, maybe.

  70. DB55 Says:

    If you pansies only knew how pathetic you sound.

  71. not there yet Says:

    News flash interceptions happen to all quarterbacks not just Winston. Drew Brees or Tom Brady throw 3 interceptions and win no one says a word. The idea that you become a seasoned veteran and stop throwing interceptions is an idiotic notion. Good defenses get picks and yes it’s frustrating but when you throw a game winning touchdown he deserves that the first article not be about the turnovers now if they had lost totally different story. Give it a rest whiner that was a good game against one of the best teams in the NFL. Basically he was better than a Hall of famer today

  72. Cgmaster Says:

    Taking the mariota playoffs shot? He’s been awful this year and their schedule literally the easiest in the nfl 3 years ina row. Wins and losses being solely blamed on the qb is narrow sighted.

  73. DB55 Says:

    Marcus Mariota is in the playoffs.
    Joe if I were a lesser man I’d have to give you a piece of my mind. Happy new year my friend.

  74. Rod Munch Says:

    Jameis scores 2 TDs in the 4th quarter, both clutch TDs needed to win the game, and the anti-Winston fruits are mad he didn’t see a safety on a play in the 2nd quarter. LOL!

  75. JimmyJack Says:

    Not there…..The great QBs have great supporting casts that play with confidence and find a wa6 to ge5 their QBs a chance to win….They know that’s their job.

    No matter how the game plays out they know they just need to get their QB a shot to win the game late. And when great QBs get that chance they usually deliver, just like Winston did today.

    Reguardless the great ones play smart enough to not make that third pick that Winston made today……..That was a horrible pick. Winston has to fix that one.

  76. Newbucsfan2 Says:

    Jameis is never boring.

  77. Rod Munch Says:

    Hey Winston haters, what did you think of Mike Evans being tackled on every single play? I guess it’s Winston’s fault that the refs let that happen, right? LOL!

  78. SOEbuc Says:

    @Altered Ego

    This entire team was soft as baby $hit this year and that for sure needs to change. At least ME13 would return the next play mostly and could still make some big plays after and played week to week. And when these soft ass players got hurt, Koetter and his squad let them go right back in most the time when they probably shouldn’t have. I’m sure Jameis was saying “no I’m all good” earlier in the year with the injury he shouldn’t have been playing with.

  79. JimmyJack Says:

    Winston also needs to get better early in the games and realize he needs to focus more and get some points before letting games get out of hand.

    Quite often he comes up dry when we need him in shootout type games. He needs to be able to compete in any type of game.

  80. Bird Says:


    You are a lesser man. Just cause you call everyone idiots when they attack your buddy Jameis

    Why are you attacking Joe’s who praise Jameis.

    Db- douce bag

  81. Bird Says:


    Thinks he’s a player.

    Not a player

  82. Lamarcus Says:

    JW haters. That TD was nice wasn’t it?? FOR THEE GAME!!!!

  83. Bird Says:


    Funny you say gmc and grimes are
    Garbage when they make bad plays

    Jameis. The best ever. HOF

  84. Bucssuccs Says:

    @Rod Munch “Hey Winston haters, what did you think of Mike Evans being tackled on every single play? I guess it’s Winston’s fault that the refs let that happen, right? LOL!“

    Let me rephrase that for you blind Jameis jockstrap riders:

    “Hey Winston lovers, what did you think of Jameis Winstons’ three interceptions? I guess it’s not Winston’s fault for throwing it into triple coverage.”

    I mean, it’s only his third season and he’s still learning from the same mistakes he makes when he was a rookie. Yeah congrats for the game winning TD throw, but there wasn’t another bright spot on Jameis’ season other than that.

  85. Rod Munch Says:

    If the Raiders really did fire Del Rio without having a deal in place for Gruden, that is going to be hilarious. Short of absurd idea of giving Gruden some ownership in the team, I just don’t see Gruden going back into coaching unless he’s forced out at ESPN – and if the Raiders really are going to give Gruden ownership, LOL! Wow, what a haul for a guy that last won a playoff game 15 years ago. Good for Gruden if he can get that done – it’s really amazing if that is what happens. I guess going to Vegas they want a high profile guy in place.

  86. JimmyJack Says:

    Winston won us that game!!!

    Not sure if any starting QB that we have ever had in this town could make that throw.

    We can win with this guy…….Gotta clean up A few of the turnovers……Coaching can help with that, a RB can help and Oline can help. The great QBs have solid support

  87. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucssuccs – you going to be OK cupcake?

  88. Eric Says:

    If Jameis played an entire season like he did in the month of December he’s a superstar.

    Plus there are eighteen qbs in the league that have more INTs than him including Big Ben.

    Does he need to improve on it. Sure. But is it catastrophic? Not at all.

  89. Lamarcus Says:

    That’s right. Ur overrated studs. Grimes who slips and slides everywhere and is a serious loafer. Grimes makes a jaw dropping play and GUARANTEED to be burned the next. Gmc looks like a undrafted free agent 98 percent of the time.

  90. Ndog Says:

    NFLNUT is exactly right, Jameis was brillant the last two games we lose today he played his worst game of the year and we win cause he actually got help from his defense and came through when it counted most. The first pick was a bad decision BUT Mike quit on his route. The 2nd one was 100% on Jameis and the 3rd one goes back to the throwinf it up to Evans crap that Koetter keeps telling Jameis. He needs to tell him if it is one on one throw it up to Mike if not throw it away. This give him a chance crap is what causes decisions like pick number 3.

  91. Bobby M. Says:

    I’ll keep saying, you cant win consistently in the NFL turning the ball over at 2-3 times every game. That’s the difference between the pros and college.

  92. Rod Munch Says:

    Lamarcus – let me guess, your New Year’s resolution is to be less boring in 2018? Did I get it right?

  93. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Both Evans and Godwin were a little gimpy . But they toughed it out. I noticed the same thing last year in last game, Evans blocking for Hump because he was playing through injuries.

  94. JabooBuc Says:

    Joe, a couple of thoughts. First, possibly the best game the Bucs defense played all year. The Saints are no easy task and I thought they kept them in check for the most part. I even saw some pressure on Brees and a couple of sacks which must mean I should play the lottery this week. Well done Coach Smith.

    As for Jameis, if people can’t see it then there is no helping you. Yes, he threw 3 INT’s and the last two were completely idiotic. He needs to cut it out or at least reduce by a third. However, he threw 2 absolute dimes on the last drive that very few QB’s can make. The throw to Evans was spectacular and the throw to Godwin almost as good. He is a winner and a leader. I believe he makes some of these pics because he thinks he can make the impossible play out of nothing. I would agree that he should know better at this point but, after all, he’s 23. I’ve watched this league for a long time and seen a lot of older more experienced QBs throw equally poor INTs. He will learn and get better. And that’s what is scary good for the Bucs.

    He came out of FSU as a sophomore which means if you think about it and he had stayed in school, he would have just completed his rookie year. If all of you Jameis detractors saw this year as his rookie year, how would you grade him? Now think about how you would grade him knowing he know has 3 years in this system under his belt, 2 possible all pro candidates at WR and 2 all pro candidates at TE? I believe he will develop into a great HOF QB and this town will come to embrace him but I admit I am biased. Bring in competition whether it be a FA or thru the draft (although I would argue spending an early pick would be nuts) if you like. I believe Jameis would thrive in a competitive environment.

    This team now needs to invest in protecting him and pressuring the opposing QB. He could use a running game although I like what I have seen of Barber of late (he does have some shake and some power). Overall, I hope this coaching staff can build on this. I want to see major investments in both lines prior to the draft so we can draft the best players available. I am optimistic…

  95. The daily coroner Says:

    Ruined a perfectly good fifth pick in the draft!

  96. Brett Says:

    You need to hire a Jameis fulltime coach or consultant. Someone to get some of the Brett Favre stupid plays.

  97. lightningbuc Says:

    Eric Says:
    December 31st, 2017 at 8:51 pm
    If Jameis played an entire season like he did in the month of December he’s a superstar


    If grandma had balls, she’d be grandpa. IF, IF, IF!

  98. Bucssuccs Says:

    Oh look, Rod Munch is acting like a tough guy who acts like he’s Jameis Winston’s personal friend. Not surprising you resort to name calling

  99. FireJasonLicht Says:

    @ NFLNUT
    who cares hpw many yards or TD’s Winston has before his 24th Bday? 1st off t most QB”S don’t leave college as aa sophomore knowing they have a lot to turn. he leads the NFL in fumbles and has missed 3 full games and was pulled in 2. how many wins does he have by the age of 24? where does he rank in wins all time by his 3rd year? what he has done by 24 is irrelevant in this league. what has he done by his 3rd year is the real question

  100. tmaxcon Says:

    jameis is the most important buc of all time already. He will cement his legacy within 5 years… yes i am included the underachieving has beens from the failed dungy era.

  101. Lamarcus Says:

    That game winning TD is going to give the JW haters much more ammo for them. 😂😂. For an entire off-season

  102. BringBucsBack Says:

    Didn’t Gannon say the other day that MANY QBs are not coached properly (and that Gruden was one of the best…btw?)? How can Jameis be receiving the best possible (or even good) coaching and still have such bad mechanics and inaccuracy? I don’t believe that he is receiving the best or even very good training and this is worrisome.

    As for his decision-making, it appears that this is what he is and that is VERY alarming. Until we get a QB that can limit the turnovers, we will win nothing of significance.

    Then there is the little matter of his Uber ride. If a decent QB avails himself to the Bucs in the draft, the Bucs HAVE to think long and hard about “pulling the trigger”, especially if ATM is reclining on his couch the 1st six weeks next year or worse, he faces criminal charges!

    Would you sign today’s starting Bucs QB to $130m contract (or more) in two years??

  103. Rod Munch Says:

    Bucssuccs – It’s OK sweetheart, you’re just mad because you know you’re going to have to go 9 months with your last thought being Jameis throwing a perfect pass to win a game. I know it’s difficult for you, but maybe if you go drive into a bridge embankment tonight you’ll be in a coma for a while and will be able to cut that time in half!

  104. Bucssuccs Says:

    @rod munch nah, it’s ok. I have 15 minutes worth of Jameis’ turnovers. It’s okay, go sniff Jameis’ jockstrap or something

  105. JimBuc2 Says:

    F&CKIN’ Enough! STOP THE TURNOVERS!! Beat a playoff team? Really, just damn play a game and win it straight out. Do you have to grab a win in spite of shating on yourself? Here’s a thought: Don’t be an EMO. Be a stone cold killer. Put those FSU days behind you and play like I know you can. I’m freakin’ over STUPID sh!t. Get a grip on your emotions and be professional on EVERY play. I mean, just f^cking get mature. If the play ain’t there, eat it, take the sack and live to fight another down. I just want to SCREAM!! KNOCK THAT SH!T OFF!!
    Want that fat contract Jameis? I suggest you learn some football basics: Don’t puke up the damn ball.

  106. Rod Munch Says:

    Fun fact: Brett Favre is not only the NFL’s all-time leading INT thrower (336), he’s also has the record for the most fumbles by a QB with 166!

    Favre had 35 fumbles and 51 INTS in his first 3 years starting, Winston has 31 fumbles and 44 INTs in his first 3 years starting. Winston has more yards, a better QB rating and Winston has scored more TDs (77 vs 74).

    I’m not sure on the completion percentage since I didn’t feel like doing the math, but Winston is at just over 61% and Favre was, eyeballing it, around 62.5%.

    Finally Winston has had 8 game winning drives through three years, Favre had 9 in his first 3 years as a starter.

    So yeah, as I said before the draft, like many people said – in Winston you’re getting a Favre like player – and thus far in his career that’s exactly who the Bucs have had. Personally, I’m really really excited about that. I mean I personally hated Favre when the Bucs played him, but to have a young Favre like player on our team – that is exciting.

  107. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    Jameis is the football equivalent of the cryptocurrency market…. Great one second and terrible the next.

  108. JabooBuc Says:

    Hey JimBuc2, he just beat a playoff team. He was a stone cold killer driving them 90+ yards for a game winning TD under 2 minutes. BTW, he’s put them in position to win the last 4. Look it up!

  109. JimBuc2 Says:

    Nice juxtaposition, but fallacious. Winston/Favre comparison does not pass the eyeball test, IMHO because the game is just so much more pass oriented. Not taking anything away from Brett’s stellar career, but the NFL has moved on. If ‘slingin’ the rock’ counts as football acumen, then Fran Tarkenton needs to suit up!

  110. Rod Munch Says:

    JimBuc2 – Yeah Favre couldn’t play in today’s NFL -and neither could Sapp or Brooks or Alstott, right? LOL! Get real dude.