Koetter “In Danger”

December 14th, 2017

Uber insder Mike Florio weighs in

More national hot seat talk.

This time it comes from super NFL insider/influencer Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com.

Florio puts Dirk Koetter on the proverbial hot seat via the NBC video below.

The NFL Network report of tension between Koetter and America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, seems to have drawn a raised eyebrow from Florio, who notes NFL Network is “partially owned by the Buccaneers.”

There’s more. Enjoy

82 Responses to “Koetter “In Danger””

  1. AlteredEgo Says:

    Of course he is….
    one more year…I could care less who the GM/HC/QB is….I want to cheer for great football….too many missing and slipping pieces to pass judgement…including to the illiterate that think I hate Jameis…
    one more year and then we all can feel like the popular emotions expressed here…

  2. ShutTheBucUp Says:

    Hue Jackson could probably work wonders with this offense.

  3. 813bucboi Says:

    damn right he’s on the hot seat and rightfully so….the offense has regressed….defense has regressed…Winston has regressed….mike evans has regressed….kwon has regressed….VHG isn’t being developed properly….I mean the list goes on and on…..he’s a dead coach walking….he’ll be gone on “BLACK MONDAY”….simple as that!!!….GO BUCS!!!!

  4. Lakeland Says:

    A 4-9 record will get you on the hot seat.

    Common Sense

  5. Brett Says:

    The Tampa Two personnel scheme has set this defense back. I think you need one more year to say for sure Koetter is a bust. Koetter and Mike Smith did pretty good in Atlanta. It is possible Jameis is a bust as well. So fire the coach and start over again?

    No thanks.

  6. AlteredEgo Says:

    Coach Hoppers

  7. Lakeland Says:

    Dirk Koetter and Mike smith had one good year in Atlanta. That was the 1st year after OC Mike Mularkey left. The Falcons had 4 straight winning seasons with Mularkey. Dirk Koetter 1st season , they went 13-3. Then they went 4-12 in 2013. 6-10 in 2014.

  8. Lakeland Says:

    I had never witness a greater slide in all of my years dealing with football, like the Falcons slide. They went from 13-3 in 2012 to 4-12 in 2013, it was terrible here in Atlanta.

  9. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Mike Florio, is so Catholic.
    I could see him as an Altar Boy, being critical of his own Priest .
    Seriously, I like Mike Florio.
    IF Cincy is stupid enough to let Marvin Lewis walk, I think he would be an excellent hire for us here in Tampa.
    He is a no nonsense defensive minded coach, who’s teams are always competitive.

  10. stevbobucfan Says:

    I am with the other Buc fan I don’t give a s… who the GM HC or QB is I just want to see some winning football tied of ever year just looking forward to how high we choose in the NFL draft. Smith defense is what got him fired in Atlanta from what I hear Jameis is still making bad decisions at times where do the Bucs go Fans please give me some thoughts

  11. AlteredEgo Says:

    ^^^ oh the irony …Rich McKay ,Marvin Lewis, was his recommendation to ownership as HC…once upon an endless face plant

  12. StAugBuc Says:

    Yeah, let’s get Marvin Lewis. Always competitive, never won anything. Longest leash in NFL history.

  13. mark2001 Says:

    Marvin Lewis? How many years has he been in Cincy? How many SB’s have they been in?

  14. cmurda Says:

    The only question will be whether or not there is a Roy Moore – like confession.

  15. cmurda Says:


  16. SB Says:

    If Florio is an “Uber” insider I Sincerely hope Jameis didn’t grope him.

  17. BUCLUV55 Says:

    Marvin effin Lewis?!?!?
    You must be higher than I am right now. Sheeeeeeeit
    You best be hoping Apple roof cleaning don’t do any drug testing.
    Marvin Lewis…..funniest thing I’ve heard in long time.

  18. Mike Johnson Says:

    Yes 4-9 is hotseat territory. But 4-12 be..firing territory! Somewhere in the Bowels of Atlanta Georgia..there sits an NFL owner named Arthur Blanks.. Smilin,,sippin on a little somethin going…..Good luck with your headaches Bucs. I,,,,,gave you 2 of mine named Koetter and Smitty!

  19. Clodhopper Says:

    I submit if Koetter can’t get it done this week, he should be forced to move his office into Sapp’s sh!tter!!

  20. Chrisco4Bucs Says:


  21. America's Groper Says:

    Boy, it seems that Apple Roof Cleaning has started cerebrating the Christmas early, DAMN son, get away from that chit, it’s 11 days away

  22. stevbobucfan Says:

    remember Gruden ran McKay off who was a pretty decent GM and didn’t do to bad in Atlanta either and also Not much of Gruden personal worked out in Tampa after that first year when the Bucs went to the Super Bowl love Gruden but be careful what we wish for

  23. BucThis Says:

    If only we could get Harbaugh 🙄

  24. SB Says:

    Harbaugh has lost to almost Every B1G opponent he has faced, hasn’t been to a Ship or close. Don’t know why people clamor for him so much.

  25. MadMax Says:

    Coach k has made some pretty horrible in_game decisions. Part of me wants to give him a chance, but the other part of me thats been voting “no confidence” in that poll the past 4 weeks says otherwise. Who else is out there other than Gruden willing to walk into this mess?

  26. What in the buc Says:

    Offense has a lot of talent, problem I feel is coaching, defense has more bad than good…..

  27. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    Marvin Lewis teams have always been competitive at least, and he would be a huge upgrade from Mike Smith.
    His biggest problem is Pittsburgh is in his division.
    I really don’t think Gruden is coming to coach Tampa again, he is playing us to get more out of ESPN.
    Maybe Harbaugh can be obtained, he isn’t doing so well at Michigan.

  28. JimmyJack Says:

    Just don’t see how Dirk can save his job here. He just hasn’t accomplished anything since taking over………Somebody yesterday linked the Joebuc fan article from when they announced Dirk as the HC.

    I read that article and I went on to read about a dozen or so articles following his hire. Two things stood out to me.

    1) Jason Licht made a public statement about this team and how they were not expecting the fans to be patient. He stated how the team had enough pieces to win with and that playoffs were the expectation here……….There is no way anybody could have a reasonable opinion that 5his franchise is even close to being a playoff team. Dirk has failed to produce what was expected. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that Dirk can turn this team into a true contender.

    2) Dirk openly lobbied for Doug MARtin…….Half the battle in this league is getting the right players in place. Resigning Doug MARtin has been a colossal failure. It has been two years of the same failure. DJax has been another failure on that side of the ball. There has also been a lot of poor decisions made with the usage of the two rookies we have. Dirk has just made too many poor decisions with players. He inherited a #5 offense and has taken us downhill two years in a row now. We now are left with a below average offense directly from decisions this HC has made.

    Dirk was hired to take this offense to a much higher level then he has provided. Any way you spin it the offense is worse then it was before he got here and it has been a miserable failure.

    Our team is now back into the toilet and any reasoning to keep Dirk around for a third year has no foundation. His offense has simply failed on any expectation except for one single stat which would be passing yards. His offense is not a complete unit it has been a failing unit.

  29. Waterboy Says:

    Harbaugh would be my 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. Gruden and Josh McDaniels can both stay where they’re at as far as I’m concerned unless of course Belichek is coming along with Josh. Marvin Lewis is an interesting candidate and probably has a better winning percentage than Gruden but he probably wouldn’t be the right guy to get them to the next level.

  30. Waterboy Says:

    I was impressed the way Harbaugh came into SF and turned Alex Smith’s career around in his 5th or 6th season when he’d looked like a total bust up to that point. I think he could really help develop Jameis.

  31. Pete Mitchell Says:

    Marvin lewis has won exactly as many playoff games as Josh Freeman. STFU with that noise.

    That guy would be a bigger mistake than Lovie Smith. SMDH

  32. JimmyJack Says:

    Pete……Don’t you think Dalton is a big reason the Bengals are 0-for in the playoffs?

    Now maybe that’s Lewis’s fault for deciding to stay with him. Or maybe that hasn’t been his decision his GM could be deciding that.

    Personally IVe enough Dalton to believe they will never win with him. I tend to blame him more the more then LEWIS.

  33. Stevbobucsfan Says:

    I am hearing ObrIan the coach for the Texans is not getting alone wit the GM there and he might leave. Do you buc fans feel this would be good fit for the bucs if he leaves

  34. JimmyJack Says:

    Yes Steve…..I’d be on board if that heppened. It would also be nice if he could bring a few of his Lineman with him.

  35. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I would be on board with O’Brian

  36. buddy Says:

    This just in….Dirk IS on the hot seat and should be. He has done nothing to prove that he deserves to be this teams HC. If he isn’t fired i know of more then 12 people who plan on NOT renewing their season tickets. How does Team Glazer expect fans to support his failings. Majority of his asst coaches are on the last year of their 2 year deals. So its the perfect time to ditch this over hyped Offensive Coordinator- Klueless Koetter. Won’t cost Team Glazer much (relatively speaking) to cut the cord and go get Gruden. That is what the Fan base wants. He will bring immediate excitement and ticket sales. I hear that if Gruden doesn’t take the Bucs job he will take the Raiders one. When its open in a year. Gruden is still very good friends with Mark Davis and his wife even sat in his suite last year when the Raiders played here. Team Glazer better not drop the ball on this one & let JG get away back out to the Oakland/Vegas Raiders. Think Mark Davis doesn’t want Chucky back to open that shiny new stadium on the Strip?? They already are getting a super bowl as soon as the next vote happens.

  37. AlteredEgo Says:

    buddy’s pizz’d

  38. Lakeland Says:

    Jon Gruden wouldn’t win 7 games with these pathetic players. He won’t inherited these players this time around.

    Simeon Rice
    Warren Sapp
    Greg Spires
    Booger McFarland
    Ronde Barber
    Shelton Quarles
    Al Singelton
    John Lynch
    Dexter Jackson
    Dwight Smith
    Brian Kelly
    Derrick Brooks

  39. Lakeland Says:

    I don’t care who he bring as DC. It won’t be the 2002 defensive version of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This offense alone won’t get him into the playoffs. The Bucs defensive players are no,no,no where near the 2002 defensive players.

  40. NFLNut Says:


    My choices, in order, for 2018 Bucs Head Coach:

    1. BRUCE ARIANS (I love Arians, just love him … to me, he’s the best coach in the entire NFL outside Bellichick … and he already loves Jameis and has raved about him for years)

    2. JIM HARBAUGH (His players love him, he works his butt off and his teams are nasty … he’d be a great fit in Tampa imho)

    3. JON GRUDEN (He’s not just a former SB champion, he’s still relatively young and he’s a maniacal hard-worker … I think he and Jameis would mesh very well)

    4. DIRK KOETTER (I still like Koetter, just not as much as the above three guys)

    5. MATT PATRICIA (I like Matt but I’m leery of hiring another mere coordinator and would therefore rather give Koetter one more year than hire a coordinator and start over)

    6. JOSH McDANIELS (I’d love to have his as O.C. but I’m a little leery of him as HC as I’m not sure he’ll command respect)


  41. JimmyJack Says:

    We have invested several draft picks and big FA money on the Oline. We have two stud receivers we have a big money RB we have a top pick QB we have a two very good TEs we have also invested several draft picks into role players for our offense and yet we have a below average offense.

    Either this coach don’t know how to make it work or the GM hasn’t a clue how to build a team…..or a combo of both.

    I’m sick of hearing how poor our defense is……This team wasn’t built to win with great defense. We were meant to win with complimentary defense that feeds off of great offense. The last two years have been a pure disaster. Problems need to be fixed and the solution is not in house.

    GM or HC need to start packing their bags. Somebody doesn’t know what the eff their doing….no excus to have a bottom half offense with this group of players.

  42. NFLNut Says:


    I think Bill O’Brien is a solid coach. He’s a tough guy and his players seem to play hard for him and he’s had some solid success with nothing but garbage at the QB position … however he has had that success in the worst division in football, so, I don’t know.

    He wouldn’t be in my top 6 but he’d probably be in my top 10 for 2018 Bucs coach …

    As for MARVIN LEWIS … ugh … I know the guy has a solid career w/l record and I don’t really blame him for the lack of playoff success as he’s never had an elite QB and has basically always been strapped with massive salary restraints and his team is the 3rd team in it’s division in terms of organizational professionalism and excellence … but … I just don’t know … part of me thinks he’s an excellent coach and part of me thinks he’s a retread that should never coach again … I openly admit that I may have bought into the media lies on this guy though … I don’t know coaches like I know QBs and for all I know if I really looked into it I may come out thinking he’s a top 5 coach …

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    People want Gruden because there is no way way Gruden would have this group of players playing 4-9 football getting blowout in half of those losses and unable to compete with teams they see twice per year…….ALl the while saying they have no identity and being accused of loafing on the field f

  44. Aaron Says:

    Why not take a different approach on this. Teryl Austin or wildcard it and go with Matt Patricia. If we’re looking for an experienced voice, Jim Schwartz.

  45. AlteredEgo Says:

    I have invested $19.99 in internet service and I am PIZZZED !

  46. orlbucfan Says:

    Anybody but egoahole Gruden. We’ve already been down that path. This team should not be 4-9. The players are way better than that! This isn’t the 1980s when the players were worse/just as bad as the coaches. Typical Buc Luck/karma!

  47. Bucballbaby84 Says:

    As he should be right now. Jameis is nowhere near progressed to where he should be. He’s being mentioned in the same category as Blake Bortles which is down right horrible. I really want the media to ask Jameis “So Jameis, there is chatter going around that ppl believe you are nowhere near progressed or developed as you should be and your decision making has gotten worse since you talked about it getting better as time went on last season. What do you have to say about that chatter?” Same question for Dirk as well just thrown differently at him.

  48. Bucballbaby84 Says:

    I want JIM SCHWARTZ!!!

  49. AlteredEgo Says:

    bbb84…careful you could get a virus

  50. NFLNut Says:



    Jameis could reply with, “I think the media spins things the way they want to spin things. Did they compare me to Bortles? Sure. But they could have shown that my numbers through my first 40 games are better than Peyton Mannings and Ben Roethlisberger’s as well. They simply decide what narrative they want to run with and they run with and I can’t control that so I don’t let it bother me. Listen, in my healthy games this year I’m leading the league in passing yards per game and even if you count all the games I played hurt, I still am setting personal career highs in completion percentage and QB rating. Also, I’m not sure if you know but I have a higher TD % and lower INT % than reigning MVP Matt Ryan this year, despite me playing part of the year with an injured throwing shoulder. I also don’t know if you’re aware but I’m about to become the first player in the history of the NFL to top 11,000 passing yards before their 24th birthday. So, yeah, if I haven’t progressed as much as people think I should have, I guess I’d take that as a compliment as it must mean those people expected me to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers by the time I was 23 and that’s flattering. However, the truth is that I’m a 23 year old young man just working his butt off to get better each and every day. Rome wasn’t built in a day and I know their are ups and downs in every QBs career, so I’m just looking forward to getting better and seeing myself and this team reach it’s potential.


    However, as I’ve said before, Jameis was created by God to be a star QB1 and he knows how to handle the media …


  51. AlteredEgo Says:

    slow your roll dude…. holelottawack

  52. NFLNut Says:

    Yet, every word I typed was 100% true …

  53. SOEbuc Says:


    I wouldn’t say we have so many pathetic players as you think. Especially on offense where Gruden has been known as an offensive and QB genius over the years. Of course O-line bl#ws and RB isn’t good on that side of the ball but that can be worked on in time. Never know but we could have the best 3-4 LB squad if we would ever get off the 4-3. JUST CUS IT’S CALLED THE “TAMPA 2” DOESN’T MEAN WE HAVE TO USE IT FOR THE REST OF TIME!!! We have a lot of talented young guys that can grow better after not too much time hopefully and some holes that need to be filled, which is why I approve of Licht who has had very nice drafts every year (And please don’t mention Aquayo cus I think I already heard someone bitching about that).

  54. JimmyJack Says:

    I think if our offense had an ability to enter games and jump out to leads it would pay dividends to our defensive approach. But that ain’t happening and it’s putting too much on the backs of our defense which clearly isn’t talented enough to carry the team.

    We need to start winning games led by offense first and the only way this team has been able to win in the last two years has been the other way around.

    If you think Dirk is the guy that can get this team to start winning because of the offense I’d like to ask you one thing……Why?

  55. Lakeland Says:


    I was speaking of the Bucs pathetic defense

    17 sacks

    47 PD


    Simeon Rice 15.5 sacks

    Brian Kelly 21 PD

    Ronde Barber 20 PD

    I serious doubt these players on defense

    Will come anywhere close to what Gruden walked into in 2002

  56. NJBucsFan Says:

    Frank Reich

  57. Lakeland Says:

    I would say 17 Sacks and 47 PD in 13 games is pretty pathetic.

  58. Bucsace Says:

    Well……..What if Jameis was created by God to be a backup Quarterback……..What’s wrong with that?

  59. Lakeland Says:

    They had 9 sacks against the Jet and Patriots. So they had 11 sacks in the other 11 games. 11 sacks in 11 games, that is beyond pathetic.

  60. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah but Lakeland you talk like Gruden can’t win in this league unless he has HOF players on defense which just isn’t true. He was very successful with the Raiders before coming here.

    Not claiming Gruden is the only answer but he defientaly has his teams ready to play and well prepared which is much more then we can say about our current team.

  61. Lakeland Says:

    My math is wrong, I meant 8 sacks in 11 games. 8 sacks in 11 games, that is unheard of.

  62. Lakeland Says:

    Why would Jon Gruden leave a cushion job with ESPN for this? It don’t make any sense at all.

  63. JimmyJack Says:

    Maybe he’s eager to coach again. Maybe he loves coaching to much. Maybe he don’t like broadcasting. Maybe he don’t like working for ESPN. Maybe he can make more money coaching. There’s a lot of reasons Gruden would leave ESPN to return to the sideline

  64. NFLNut Says:


    Broncos won tonight as I predicted and therefore the Bucs have jumped over the Broncos in the draft order. If we can manage to lose-out and not win a meaningless game, we should get the #5 pick, only behind the Browns (QB), Giants (QB), Colts and 49’ers … and it’s very possible that both the Colts and 49’ers trade down with a QB-needy team like the Jets, Bills, Cardinals and Broncos. In fact, I expect them to do so as both the Colts and 49’ers have a ton of holes to fill and need all the extra picks they can get.

    So, as it stands now, I full expect the first four picks to be, in any order, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield or Lamar Jackson … which means the Bucs, as long as they can manage not to win a meaningless game, will have their pick of SAQUON BARKLEY and BRADLEY CHUBB!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let’s go Falcons, Panthers and Saints!!!!!!!!!!


  65. NFLNut Says:



    I’d take Chubb … BUT … if we could get DeMarcus Lawrence or Ziggy Ansah in free agency and a CB like Trumaine Johnson or Mlcolm Butler I’d be THRILLED with Saquon Barkley as well!


  66. JimmyJack Says:

    Nut…..Don’t follow much college ball so I don’t know the players but top 5 RBs come around rarely so I think you gotta take that guy if you see that value in him.

  67. Nate Says:

    hey Lakeland

    Gruden had 3 playoff appearances and 2 division titles plus two back to back 9-7 seasons which gruden got fired for kiffin jumping ship with 4 games left

    all with qbs Johnson, Garcia , griese, and simms

    and not much else

    I think he would win more than 7 with THIS offense

  68. Nate Says:


    the man said years ago he was waiting for his kids to finish school

    and working without mike tarico has been lame…..paraphrasing ira

    Great coaches (even if its in his mind) that won a superbowl and eventually want a gold jacket or a chance at one

    not to be laid off from in 2 yrs when mon night football leaves espn

  69. Nate Says:

    and Lakeland

    you act like that defense was elite 3years after the superbowl ….not even

    sapp walked and simeon stopped balling ….and brooks hung on a few more years

    walked into he won a lot of those games AFTER 2002 on his offense alone

  70. Nate Says:

    walked into??? lol without his 45 new players on offense there is NO SUPERBOWL

    bucs even with those returns would of never outscored the #1 offense….

    as you can see they almost came back in the late 3rd quarter

    yall fans need to refresh your memories….

  71. Blake_Bucsfan Says:


    I’m convinced that we absolutely must cut the fat off this roster. I/E Chris Baker, Rob Ayers, Will Gholston, Evan Smith, Doug Martin etc… And go after both Demarcus Lawrence and Trumaine Johnson with everything.

    We DID have 17 million laying around for Calais Campbell, we just didn’t go out and sign him. Can not make that same mistake with Lawrence. And I say we gotta go after Johnson because he’s gonna be the only premiere Corner available, and Grimes will almost certainly retire.

    If we can do that, and we some how end up with the #5 pick, then I’d be more than happy to either Double up at DE and draft Bradley Chubb. Saquon Barkley would also be incredible, But at this point, I’d rather try to build a dominant O-line. So taking the best LT in the class, Connor Williams, or the best O-lineman period, Quinton Nelson, would be tremendous.

  72. NFLNut Says:


    ^ Great reply Blake,

    I like your line of thinking and I agree that we need to dump Swaggy, Doug, Ayers and whoever else we need to so that we can afford BOTH DeMarcus Lawrence AND Trumaine Johnson … Ziggy Ansah and Malcolm Butler are the other good DE and CB tandem but Lawrence and Trumaine are the main guys and the guys I want.

    It seems that outside of the Browns, 49ers and Colts, we have more cap space than any other team and I’ve got to think that we are a more attractive landing spot than Cleveland and Indy for sure … and even Frisco as there is no state tax in Florida whereas Cali tax is through the roof … so … DeMarcus Lawrence AND Trumaine Johnson should be do-able and we should do whatever it takes to make it happen!

    If we get both those guys … I’d be thrilled with Saquon, Chubb, Quenten Nelson … or even Minkah Fitzpatrick as he and Justin Evans could be the most talented safety combo in the entire league for years to come.

    But man … thinking what Saquon could do on this offense is really exciting … but I hear you about building up the trenches and from everything I’ve read, that Quenten Nelson kid sounds like a 10 year perennial Pro Bowler and possible HOF’er with a nasty attitude but massive professionalism as well.

    I’m already looking forward to the draft … I want to see Jameis play well the final 3 games but I also want to see 3 losses!


  73. THETRUTH Says:

    Gruden coach
    OC – jay gruden
    D.C.- JEff Fisher or Jack Del Río

    If not Gruden I could accept Kotter one more year if he makes changes if not he has to go

  74. Not Me Says:

    Hey. New coach. Seen names mentioned. One not seen. Saban of Alabama. Time to give him another chance in pro ball. Look what he has done with Bama. GO TIDE.

  75. darin Says:

    I have no idea why so many people preach patience when it comes to head coaches. Is it written somewhere a coach can only succeed if he has the job 3 years or more? Its an impatient league. Head coaching jobs are one of the only ones in the country you can be bad at your job and still be employed. He would have been canned if he were doing anythjng else, yet its an impatient league. Makes no sense to give him another year. Its bad for business. Im only looking at it from a business perspective. If it were from a football knowledge perspective he would have been canned a while ago. No more years! If some first year coaches are going worst to first in year one then it can be done with us next year.

  76. Roy T. Buford Says:

    I believe it was earlier this season, and here in this column, I saw an article saying to the effect it was ludicrous that Koetter’s job would be in jeopardy. I agreed somewhat but pointed out what people were saying was if they didn’t get things sorted out it would be a very real possibility. Here we are.

    Now, the real question is understand why things are so bad from an objective standpoint.

  77. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Here’s the thing: the Bucs won’t get any big name coach to come in if they only give yet another guy only two years.


    No, the solution is simple. Fire Smith. Force Koetter to stop calling plays and hire a real OC.

    Draft for defense.

    Koetter is a very good coach. Winston said it himself, it’s not the coaching, it’s the player execution.

    And, btw, does no one remember how complicated Gruden’s offence was for players????

  78. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    So far as the relationship between Koetter and Jameis being bad, that’s a complete myth invented by the media.

    Yes, Jameis MAY have made some comments while he was injured, but those were born out of frustration at not playing. They don’t mean he doesn’t like Koetter.

    But, of course, the people who want Koetter gone (the same people who wanted Mike Evans gone after his bad year) make a big deal because it helps their cause.

    And why is Jameis having a bad year?


    When Jameis was focusing on Mike Evans, Brate and Humphries, he played better and we won games. But then Jackson complained and Jameis has since been trying to force throws to him.

    That is the only reason Mike Evans numbers aren’t as high too.

    DJax is the problem.

    Ain’t it funny how Jameis connected with Evans on deep passes last yezr?

  79. not there yet Says:

    I don’t care who the coach is as long as it’s not dirk koetter. People can’t talking down about gruden like dirk is good enough to be an assistant on special teams for gruden. People talk about the team he inherited but won’t give him credit for the offense he put together, he got here and there were a bunch of garbage players. Making fun of gruden bad draft picks ok fine but I could argue that the reason Dungy had a title is because of the quarterback he inherited. Dungy also inherited two Hall of Fame platters he didn’t draft them I believe but why is it no one talks about the offensive draft picks of Dungy hmm.

    Dirk is beyond the hot seat and he knows he’s done, I don’t understand all the excuses for the coach that’s doing the same thing Lovie did. Mike Smith defense is the reason he didn’t get fired last year other than that I think the glazers wanted the hard knocks spotlight on the franchise

  80. Patrick in VA Says:

    There is a lot of talk going around the DC area that Jay Gruden is tanking the season to get canned so he can double dip and go be OC for his brother when he comes back to Tampa. It seems a little out there, but it makes sense. I wouldn’t fault Jay for wanting to get out of DC given what a clown show the operation is here and if he’s heard from his brother that things are lining up to get to Tampa and he knows he has a guaranteed job, it only makes sense to take the 2 year payout from Dan Snyder while he’s living it up in the FL sun working for his brother.

  81. MTM Says:

    This team is like ground hog every year. The annual coach hot seat talk, QB chatter and draft pick position. I don’t think this team will ever be worth a sh*t with the current ownership. How is it possible to have 3 NFL teams in Florida and they are all perennial bottom dwellers every year for 10 yrs. It takes hard work to be this lousy. Can Florida just combine all 3 teams to make a watchable franchise?

  82. jeff Says:

    He should be in danger this is the most embarrassed I’ve been as a fan walking out of the stadium last week around all those cheering lions fan was awful thanks a lot Glazers