Jameis Hurts Himself
December 20th, 2017
Advice from former NFL QB.
Yes, Monday night America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, played a damn fine game. Demonstrated why he is the quarterback of the future for the Bucs, even though many haters had acid reflux watching him.
But there is kindling for the fire of the haters. Jameis hasn’t progressed this season like many had hoped.
Tim Hasselbeck of BSPN believes Jameis puts way too much pressure on himself and that leads to both forced and unforced errors.
Hasselbeck believes it might be better for Jameis, for the time being, to dial back the pregame hollering, well-intended though it may be.
Yeah, Joe knows Drew Brees does the same thing Jameis does before every Saints game. But Brees has a ring to his name and is heading towards Canton soon after he retires. Jameis doesn’t have that kind of street cred yet.
You can see (and hear) Hasselbeck explain in detail in the BSPN video below.
Take a listen to @tthasselbeck and @LRiddickESPN intelligently explain what Jameis Winston still needs to do to be great #bucs @ESPNNFL pic.twitter.com/kUdXkB2Agr
— Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) December 19, 2017
December 20th, 2017 at 9:07 am
Great analysis from a former QB who played for a long career in the NFL because of his mental game and not his physical traits
Monday night the game did indeed “slow down” for jameis
We need the composed leader every game.
“Joe montana didnt headbut his way to 4 superbowls”
Son of Kobe Faker
December 20th, 2017 at 9:14 am
In the pre-game Steve Young mentioned the ability of great QBs to “dial it back”, To NOT take it over the top.
I think some fans are unfairly criticized for wanting improvement from Jameis and here you have a peer who says the same thing. It’s not expecting perfection, it’s expecting improvement. He’ll get there with practice.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:17 am
SOS many of us Nuc fams have been sayin all year long. More concentrated playing and less sermons from the Rev Jameis pulpit.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:26 am
FINALLY!!! Winston has a game that matches his talents. Even more amazing was that he did with so many injuries to Bucs players. Consistency is the name of the game in the NFL. Let’s see if he can repeat this performance next week and the weeks after. Winston is immature. There is no doubt about that. Hopefully he can come back next year with more maturity and no personal problems (female Uber driver) hanging over his head. Shouldn’t have to constantly defend the face of your franchise about sexual assault issues.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:28 am
Finally? Was this the first game you watched?
December 20th, 2017 at 9:34 am
He’s the only QB in the league surrounded with the most bizarre headlines/discussions.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:36 am
I disagree
let Winston be Winston….cant change a tigers stripes….
if Winston played a solid game every week his pregame speech would be a non issue…..players feed off that energy….maybe not the finger lickin antics but his speeches get players focused and pumped up….he’s the leader of the team….he’s still learning how to lead….
his problem has been being coached poorly and trying to make a play when the only play to be made is to take a sack or throw the ball away….dirk hasn’t always put Winston in position to win….or the team for that matter….calling 7 step drops and launching bombs aint going to get it done….a solid run game and solid defense is what you need when you have a young QB….
don’t dial back the pre-game speech….dial back the fumbles and forced throws….take the sack….throw the ball away….and get dirk outta here so Winston can develop properly!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
December 20th, 2017 at 9:41 am
From now on Jameis can only listen to Barry Manilow before the game…
December 20th, 2017 at 9:43 am
That title is just mean!
December 20th, 2017 at 9:44 am
I won’t pretend like I wasn’t upset with Winston’s play all season long. BUT this was the best game for him of the season he looked outstanding. Throwing in and making tight windows. Showing touch, and connecting deep.
Like I keep saying the kid is still only 23. This team will require some patients. Peyton Manning wasn’t great starting out and I think we all would agree his career finished just fine. lol. Patients is a virtue.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:50 am
Loved JW’s demeanor the entire game. Very calm, collected, and poised. He moved well in he pocket, used his legs when warranted, and spread the ball around with decisiveness and accuracy. His TD to O.J. was his 3rd or 4th read by the looks of it, and his patience and willingness to use the checkdown resulted in a big play. I also loved the mix of long, short, and intermediate play calls behind the patchwork O-line. Whatever JW and DK did to prepare for this game, please continue to do it.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:51 am
@813Buc:
Reports are pretty clear that the coaching staff has been relentless in telling Jameis to dial it back. @Joe can confirm, but Hard Knocks and all media have told those stories.
Problem seems to be growing ears. Maybe the words weren’t right, or maybe the reputation wasn’t lofty enough. Or maybe the ego is just too big right now.
The League has a way of chopping down egos that don’t produce. It’s hard on the fans and even harder on the player.
Hope it doesn’t come to that.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:57 am
Bobby M. Says:
December 20th, 2017 at 9:34 am
He’s the only QB in the league surrounded with the most bizarre headlines/discussions.
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Probably because he’s the most bizarre QB.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:57 am
About five years ago Fran Tarkington did a critique on JFro. Basically said that the coaches can only do so much. Then it’s up to the player to put it together, regardless of scheme, schedule or personnel.
Tara was especially critical of regularly throwing into tight windows. He said that a qb’s job is not to make the hard throws but to know where to find the easy throws. People were offended by the slam on #5. Perhaps it was a prediction for #3.
December 20th, 2017 at 9:59 am
Can the Bucs pay Walsh or Montana like 20k to come in for a weekend to teach them a little bit of the west coast offense?! Maybe we can learn how to convert our short third downs and work on our red zone efficiency
December 20th, 2017 at 10:02 am
Tim Hasselbeck isn’t the only ex-pro that his saying it
……….ALOT of them are saying it
December 20th, 2017 at 10:03 am
I think this analysis is very true of Cam Newton as well. We’ve all seen happy Cam playing like an MVP candidate one game, and pouty Cam playing like garbage. I think the QB position is different from most other positions, because every emotion and want to aren’t as important. You want a QB that is a some cold assassin, that can dissect and pick apart anything a defender is trying to do. Sees an opportunity and takes it, the guy who without conscience will wreck a back up corners career because he knows he has a miss match. While I love the warrior in Jameis, the QB position is more that of a chess player.
December 20th, 2017 at 10:11 am
All the elderly ex quarterbacks needs to stop talking about what he needs to do if it’s in regards to pregame speech. Winston had already said that is him it’s who he is and everyone saying this it was a theory before he have a speech then came out and had one of the best games of his pro career, this is a stupid idea and the only watermark I’ve ever heard anyone say needs to stop the pregame stuff. I don’t think it matters what he does people just don’t like him
December 20th, 2017 at 10:12 am
Pappy
Don’t think Walsh will be coming anytime soon
December 20th, 2017 at 10:15 am
What about the not-so elderly non-ex-quarterbacks? Warren Sapp has basically said the same thing (and he may be one of Jameis’ biggest fans).
December 20th, 2017 at 10:50 am
Unfortunately we all want to see Winston do it again but look at his opponent this Sunday. The Panthers came into our house and destroyed Winston and kept pressure on him all day.
Dirks gameplan worked Monday because his Oline held up. That same gameplan is not going to work this week.
He cannot make in game adjustments or he would have when Carolina was destroying our line. Will he be able to make the proper adjustment to our gameplan against a division opponent? If not he’s likely going to set Winston up for another bad game. Don’t hold your breath on a Winston repeat this week.
December 20th, 2017 at 10:51 am
calm Jameis, like a ninja. Then cut their hearts out.
December 20th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Jmarkbuc Says:
December 20th, 2017 at 10:12 am
Pappy
Don’t think Walsh will be coming anytime soon
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They could always dig him up. Even dead, he knows more about offense than Koetter.
December 20th, 2017 at 12:26 pm
Jamies had another over the top pregame speech on Monday night again that seemed to work out for just fine for him
December 20th, 2017 at 12:53 pm
Each QB has their on personality…why extinguish the fire…the pregame speech had no negative aafect on Monday night game…sooo put the attention where it matters…the playcalling…put him in the right position to execute!
December 20th, 2017 at 2:16 pm
Guys…Jameis will be fine with the right coaching. If not, who knows whether he goes or stays in a couple more years. He needs to consistently play like a franchise QB and be given a contract commensurate like one.
Or we can wait and stick with Dirk and the same old/ same old, hope and wait a couple years, change the coaching and system, and ask Jameis to resign, hoping he will consistently play like a franchise QB. And if he doesn’t develop here? Well…the 2020’s could start like the 2010’s did.
Time to get on with it, boys and girls.
December 20th, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Don’t let them change you Jameis, The reason you are trying to do so much is the ST sucks, the defense completely sucks (minus our LBs), our running game sucks and the O-line sucks. You have brought us back in numerous games even after one of your boneheaded plays and the defense laid down like dogs. Don’t worry once assclown 1 and assclown 2 are gone, we will become a winning franchise. Most pieces are in place, just have to get and few more and play to the strengths of the guys we have, not try to fit them into a system that doesn’t fit the players we have because we think we can outsmart the system.
December 20th, 2017 at 2:41 pm
JJBuc… Jameis has to approach the game consistently. The talent is there, undoubtedly. But did you hear what Gruden said during the MNF broadcast? He said Jameis needs to play within the game, not just play “his game”. All the great ones have to do that…Brady, Rodgers, even Favre, though he reminds me most of Jameis, potentially, than the others. And that is what consistency is about.
December 20th, 2017 at 3:45 pm
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NFL analysts shouldn’t pretend to be head doctors … it’s silly.
Brees is a hype man, Brady’s a robot, Rodgers is supposedly in the closet and arrogant, Favre was a partying wild man, Roethlisberger is a warrior on the field but doesn’t really care about football otherwise … everyone has their own personality but all those dudes are headed straight to the HALL OF FAME.
Kobe was an aloof assassin , Shaq was a goof-ball, LeBron is a schemer, Jordan was near psychotic, Kareem was an intellectual a-hole … all different personalities but all either in or headed to the HALL OF FAME.
Jameis is like a preacher … he’s a natural motivator and leader and genuinely loves his teammates and the game of football … he doesn’t need to be changed.
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December 20th, 2017 at 6:55 pm
DoolNutts “Patients is a virtue”
How Virtuously Patient should a coaching staff be? How much can they be? It is their livelihoods too after all, and the waiting for any said player to play to their abilities could and often times does cost them that livelihood. Because the owners (and fans?) demand their coaches make things happen way-way sooner than some players finally “get it”. It is not just coaches, it is also General Managers who face these guillotine type decisions as well. “Patience is a virtue” you are correct it is just a tough position trying to be patient and stay employed.
Go! Bucs!
December 20th, 2017 at 7:02 pm
Maze
“Jamies had another over the top pregame speech on Monday night again that seemed to work out for just fine for him”
Yeah, another close game but no WIN… He played great. No Win!
December 21st, 2017 at 11:25 am
That Brees comparison is weak Joe sorry! Sooo Brees wasn’t doing that BEFORE he got a ring?!? It’s just nonsense what the media finds to complain about.