BSPN: Jameis = Bortles

December 15th, 2017

“Do I really look like Blake Bortles?”

Joe has to guess it is in the DNA of the spreadsheeters.

It seems, almost universally (at least the Disney-employed spreadsheeters) they inherently dislike America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.

(Also, equally interesting, this same crowd genuflects when the name “Marcus Mariota” is spoken — and he’s played fairly miserably of late.)

Anyway, follically-challenged, thin-skinned nerd Bill Barnwell over at BSPN named the 10 most desirable coaching openings he expects to appear in January.

He lists Tampa Bay as the second-worst potential opening, not because of why Joe thinks it is not a great job (the division is a beast, Team Glazer has an itchy trigger finger and the Bucs have a defense that looks in need of a total makeover), but because of Jameis.

Barnwell buildt a shaky soapbox to go on an anti-Jameis screed. Among his flimsy premises is that Jameis is the second-coming of Blake Bortles of Jacksonville.

As has been the case with Bortles, you can’t make the argument that Winston hasn’t gotten help, either. The Bucs have a highly paid running back (Doug Martin), a superstar No. 1 wideout (Mike Evans), an expensive free-agent No. 2 wideout (DeSean Jackson), a first-round pick at tight end (O.J. Howard), and a safety valve (Cameron Brate). The Bucs used a high second-round pick after nabbing Winston to draft left tackle Donovan Smith, selected a star interior lineman in Ali Marpet (who is now on injured reserve), and dipped in free agency to sign J.R. Sweezy. You can take issue with some of their decisions, but the effort has certainly been there to build around Tampa’s most recent first overall pick.

Now, Joe has to wonder exactly how many Bucs games this character has seen if he cites Doug Martin as a weapon. Martin is anything but a weapon. More like a liability. Joe will go out on a limb and say Barnwell has monitored few if any Bucs games this year, which makes Joe wonder how he can evaluate Jameis (or any other player) by simply relying on box scores?

Joe has to give the devil his due for one point. Exactly what great coordinator with a good team wants to uproot his family for two years?

63 Responses to “BSPN: Jameis = Bortles”

  1. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    but, yourself and fans on here like to go by the numbers too…you can hammer the Defense all you want but this team was supposed to be a high powered , high scoring offense to make up for a suspect Defense, and that is not even close to being true…can’t find the end zone most weeks…Russell Wilson has no line or running game and finds ways to win….He’s ELITE. Jameis is very much in Bortles territory. an AVERAGE QB….

  2. FortMyersDave Says:

    I think Bill Barnwell is Canadian (a slam Jim Rome used to use on controversial talking heads who made no sense; Pierre Gammons, BoSox homer comes to mind)…. Who are better options? Cleveland? Chicago? Indy w/o Andy Luck. Of cousre since he is BSPN the Giants will be near the top. Could you list his list Joe so we don’t have to make the nimrod popular with hits to his post?????

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Yup……sounds bout right

  4. FortMyersDave Says:

    Actually Mariota is a Bortles clone, not Winston but the near sited BSPN analyst thinks the Titans are good beacause at 8-5 they migh get a wild card behind the Jags with wins over the Colts twice, Texans, Browns, etc…., in other word a team that would be 4-9 if they played the Bucs schedule…. Mariota is a bust, look at his numbers, but he gets a pass, why???? If Winston has Mariota’s stats the haters would be going ****ing ape ****….. . BSPN has an agenda, perhaps it is about trumping up number for MNF this Monday, who knows, who cares? At 4-9 the Buc might as well tank to get a # 5 spot in the draft as a W could bump them behind a bunch of 5-11 bottom feeders who do not have 3 playoff teams in division and thus give the Bucs the best SOS in football….

  5. Bucn Enough Says:


    You sound offended that someone would even suggest that Jameis is average.

    Jameis has to prove people wrong, until then, he is average at best…this year.

  6. #FireKoetter Says:

    Only number that matters is wins. He can’t do it alone, but the best QBs can lift the players around him. I have yet to see him do that consistently enough to win games. Other than the Giants game, the rest of the team won games for us.

  7. ATrain Says:

    Hey this kid is 23 holy crap some people talking crap about him were working as maybe interns getting coffee at 23 and this kid is Leading a team


  8. Clodhopper Says:

    “It seems, almost universally (at least the Disney-employed spreadsheeters) they inherently dislike America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.”

    To be fair, most of America is Disney-employed now.

    BSPN = Basic asf losers.

  9. lightningbuc Says:

    “Hey this kid is 23”

    Instead of saying “this kid is only 23” why not say he’s almost through his 3rd year as an NFL QB, ain’t that good, and seems to be regressing.

  10. darin Says:

    Well this year I’d take bortles. Thats what a running game and good defense will do for you. Weve seen the average qbs have success in this league. Jameis is above average. Time to stop adding weapons and add defensive linemen and a great rb. Also a new oc and new dc. Jameis will be fine. Dirk set him up for failure this year. He doesnt need to be 7 step dropping looking way downfield every throw. Somewhere dirk lost his indentity, n he is a terrible hc. If bortles goes deep in the playoffs this year I wont be surprised. Lets get weapons for the defense

  11. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Without disputing the talent or play of Martin, Sweezy or Smith,its clear that Jason Licht
    has tried to surround Jameis with a lot of talent. On paper this team should be an exciting offense to watch from the first kickoff. Unfortunately,that hasn’t happened.
    Also seems, that this effort to stockpile the offense has been a detriment to the defense, made even more glaring by the injuries to the key defensive players.
    My point is Licht needs to have a more balanced approach to building this team.
    He should have had plans to replace some of the aging or oft injured players on
    the team.

  12. Roy T. Buford Says:

    As I’ve said…who wants to come to a franchise where at the very least….the starting QB and current face of the franchise very well may be suspended for 2, 4, even 6 or more games for next year? Worst case is there is a civil suit and he’s tied up for two years with a cloud over the Bucs, if not a pall. No GM and/or HC wants to touch that. If prospective hires are already a great, they got that way by avoiding problem children like Jameis, and to become great, they need to avoid problem children like Jameis. Which is why I say if the GM goes, and if the Glazers don’t trust Jameis at his word or no longer see him as effective as the face of the franchise, he will be gone too (in that role). They’ll keep him for a year, maybe two, but he won’t be “the guy” anymore. Bold prediction: Jameis will be on the roster next year but he will not on the wall the RayJay.

  13. The Buc Realist Says:

    Joe says:
    “Exactly what great coordinator with a good team wants to uproot his family for two years?”

    And that is why it makes less sense then the just fire Coach Mike Smith mob!!!!!! What defensive coordinator will the Bucs get who will uproot his family for one year because Head Coach Koetter is already on the hot seat and the fans want to demote play-calling to a lesser coach???? Either keep the staff and fix the lines!!!!! or do it the Buc way and start over once again!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!

  14. Roy T. Buford Says:

    And let’s be real here. Jameis had two years to show promise as a QB. He did exactly that, passing for loads of yards and demonstrating early charisma to lead his team, to aspire for greatness. But he did not keep that trajectory for his third year, and did not walk the talk on his leadership. The jury is still out, but he my be nothing but a big BS artist…knows what to say, but can’t back it up, and doesn’t really live like he wants others to believe he does. On that, we don’t know. He’s not washed up (yet) but his off-field baggage makes him less attractive, maybe not worth the risk to wait and see. And he was only a Pro Bowler because the real QBs were playing in SBs, etc. So it rings hollow to call him such, and he certainly is not America’s QB. Those who continue to call him that (like Joe) should expect loss of their own credibility, unless it’s wishful thinking or a big joke. He may not even be the Bucs QB, and given he’s 33rd in the NFL of 32 teams, may not even be an NFL starting QB in a few years.

  15. AlteredEgo Says:

    Roy T….going along with that scenario for a minute….how will the starting QB situation be addressed ?….go high in April 2018 or sign a vet FA starter ?…status quo will not fly in 2018

  16. Pit of misery Says:


  17. passthebuc Says:

    Who cares what Barnwell says. The proof is in the pudding and JW to date, is a bust. Would he look better if he had a running back, yes and so would any QB. The fact remains, he is slow thinking, he gets rattled easily, makes bad decisions is not accurate, and now he is turned to the blame game.
    Trade him. Let him start over somewhere else. Maybe Cleveland would give us one of their high draft picks

  18. Roy T. Buford Says:

    It’s nonsense to lose the overall point Barnwell makes because you disagree about Martin. Martin seems to be done, but he’s had years where he was performing, but the real point is all the other weapons for Winston…that Jameis can’t seem to find…for a myriad of reasons. And Winston is more charismatic as a leader than Bortles, though that luster may be fading fast. The only comparison to Bortles is he’s struggled with his own accuracy. But soon there is no comparison anyway because Bortles is about to be in the playoffs. Jameis is more like Josh Freeman than Blake Bortles.

  19. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Marvin Lewis will be our DC if Cinny fires him and the Bucs keep Dirk 1 more year.

  20. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Altered Ego, I think there is so much to address in other positions for the draft they will look to someone like Kirk Cousins in FA as a placeholder or short term guy (remember Brad Johnson?). A new GM and/or HC is going to be given their choice for the first round pick especially, because that need will be pitch used in part to land the job–and I don’t think any candidates will say QB is the biggest need, especially if we’re not sure what’s sure what’s going on with Jameis when the GM/HC is hired. Kind of the unwritten rule the new GM and/or HC gets his choice of picks as their first splashes in the new job. I think they also try to keep Fitz around another year or two as insurance if there is any doubt at all on Jameis. I say this because the J-Wubergate issue may not be done until late April at least. Sadly, I think we have a year of limbo and then as needed, draft a QB in ’19. I cannot see anything other then DE, CB, OL going in rounds 1-3. That’s my take.

  21. AlteredEgo Says:

    Dewey….Smith ain’t got the horses on defense…fan base got WAY ahead of themselves, I do it each summer since 76…..still too many holes on the roster both sides of the ball…..
    one more year HC/GM/DC….we have to build from a stable platform…

  22. BrianBucs Says:

    Winston. Bortles. Mariotta.
    I wouldn’t want to have to build a team around any of the three

  23. miken Says:

    Martin isn’t a weapon, he is done. The rest of those guys are weapons and should have produced a lot more. I hope Gruden will come, but not sure I believe it. If and when he doesn’t , then who? McDaniels will have better jobs availible and so will the other in high demand prospects.

  24. Pickgrin Says:

    Bortles – 1st 3 years
    11,251 yds -58.7 comp %- 6.6 yds per comp- 69 TDs (+5 rushing)- 51 INTs
    78.8 average QBR

    Winston – 1st 3 years (-6 games, 3 injured – 3 games to go in 2017)
    10,607 yds -60.6 comp%- 7.4 yds per comp- 64 TDs (+7 rushing)- 41 INTs
    86.2 average QBR

    Mariota – 1st 3 years (-9 games, 6 injured – 3 games to go in 2017)
    8,826 yds -61.8 comp%- 7.5 yds per comp- 55 TDs (+9 rushing)- 33 INTs
    88.6 average QBR

  25. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Altered Ego…I’ll add…this next draft could be a year to trade future picks to draft now. It’s clearly rebuilding time, but I doubt the Glazers want to start another 5 year climb. They will also want to try to keep fans on board and spur interest by those on the fence. “No contracts” and holding the line on ticket prices won’t cut it.” The worst message to convey is “we’re rebuilding and it wll take a couple of years.” I see the Bucs have 5 picks in the top 3 rounds, and (ugh!) maxing out spending in free agency. I’d not be surprised to see guys like GMC traded away for a lower round pick…probably mutual interest. GMC clearly knows now he’ll never see playoffs being a Buc and his clock is ticking.

  26. miken Says:

    @joe barnwell is pretty good. One of the few national guys that knows the bucs. He doesn’t call martin a weapon, just says he’s highly paid and Jameis has weapons. Jameis does, more than most. Not sure where the blame lies… coach, jw ect. Probably a combo. The O ran a lot better last year with less weapons. I feel like the marpet move was dumb and not to ride with Barber earlier was dumb as well. Quizz returning kicks and the dumb things go on and on

  27. Mike Johnson Says:

    Them JAGWARS are ballin fellow Buc fans. They are giving it all they got despite…being less talented than our Bucs. That says a lot. So I for one, congratulate them for their efforts. Ok..Gotta run..On my way to ..ABC to get my pain meds for the Bucs upcoming…Monday night football

  28. BigHogHaynes Says:

    The ineffective running game (O-Line play) along with the fact that this Coaching Staff is not what most here thought it would be, the fact that THE BACK-STABBER has failed to bring in (thru the draft or free angency) a DE that can consistently put pressure on the opposing QB is a big setback! THE CONSPIRICY CONTINUES TO RUN DERPER!

  29. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Monday night is of course, Gruden’s Ring of Honor Induction ceremony. I have been told by someone extremely high up at the Bucs organization that there will be a “big surprise” on all that. Of course, it’s “mum” after that but it makes my mind wander through endless options on what was meant. Could maybe be as small as new fireworks with a fantastic video about Gruden….or as wild and crazy as an announcement that “Gruden will be the Team President in 2019, a new position.” I am betting the reality will be closer to the former than the latter, but it sure has me wondering. And for the record, I’m not a fan of hiring Gruden in that or any other role. He’s too petulant and egotistical–the divorce happened the first time for a reason.

  30. BucTrooper Says:

    ” Joe has to wonder exactly how many Bucs games this character has seen if he cites Doug Martin as a weapon. ”

    Took the words right out of my mouth. If paycheck=performance, Albert Haynesworth should have been a Hall of Famer

  31. Defense Rules Says:

    @Bob in Valrico … “Also seems, that this effort to stockpile the offense has been a detriment to the defense, made even more glaring by the injuries to the key defensive players. My point is Licht needs to have a more balanced approach to building this team.” Bob, I’d tread lightly here or Joe will throw you in the cooler. His daily byline is that the Bucs’ defense has lost every single game for us all year. Jameis & his ‘band of renown’ can do no wrong.

    And yet, I still can’t fault Jameis, Dirk or Smitty for what the Bucs have become this year … not yet. They simply don’t have the horses to compete. It’s like sending a chihuahua to race with the greyhounds at the race track. The chihuahua might have a great heart, but he’s still a chihuahua. Licht needs to at least upgrade us to some old Rottweilers (in BOTH trenches) so we can beat the daylights out of the greyhounds and steal their lunch money before the race begins. Old age and cunning will overcome youth and skill every time.

  32. AlteredEgo Says:

    well the big surprise is something to look forward to….#55 ? role on the pay roll as The Buccaneer Jameis Whisperer

  33. Roy T. Buford Says:

    #55 will probably come eventually one way or the other. I think he’s been the JW Whisperer without much result. Jameis knows the answers; he doesn’t have to be told because he gives them to us every day in often knowing what people want to hear. I am more and more thinking he just can’t walk the talk. His stock is sinking. No, he’s not “done” but he’s not getting better…in fact…the opposite. Nothing #55 can do for that.

  34. AlteredEgo Says:

    I agree with all of that Roy T….

  35. Stevbobucsfan Says:

    I think Bortles and Winston are more cricized because their teams were losing Bortle not so much now because Jacksonville’s winning Not saying that either have improved over the pass 3 or so years. But my reason for bringing this up is Brady made a lot of bad throws and decisions Monday night and nobody’s saying a word and that’s because Brady plays outstanding 80% of the time J W and Bortles who are on team that need more than just good QB play really get it each week because they’re not bring their teams back from 20 point deficits

  36. miken Says:

    @mikejohns… those jags are ballin. I think about the 2015 game vs the comboys. We beat them by 4. Late in the game, deep ball to Dez. We PI Dez but no call. We win, fire lovie ect. We lose that game, we pick 5 and select Jalen Ramsey. Thats one that better off losing. Maybe avoids the whole roberto fiasco. Of course, Jags were smart and sign Calis, we got swaggy.

  37. mark2001 Says:

    Jameis Winston…Tampa Bays Quarterback. Hope JG thinks he is good enough, among other important factors, to make the jump back into coaching.

  38. Pickgrin Says:

    Roy T. says:
    “He’s too petulant and egotistical”

    This is my biggest concern with the idea of bringing Gruden back as HC that is being pushed so hard by some.

    Forever grateful to Chucky for getting the Bucs their only Super Bowl win but I seriously doubt that another attempt at improving the present by re-hashing the past would go very well. Hard to say for sure – but the Lovie attempt at that was certainly a disaster. Maybe Gruden has managed to get a handle on his ego and improved his people skills in the last 9 years??

  39. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    Bortles & Jameis wine coolers…Thank You For Your Support

  40. Eric Says:

    I doubt Jon agrees with that assessment of Jameis.

    Please rehash that Super Bowl winning past, and the two Division Titles post Super Bowl.

    Clearly the best coach the franchise ever had. But, I guess some folks prefer the last eight years.

  41. AlteredEgo Says:

    Gruden,IMO, would be a perfect college coach…large roster…get to pick your players…kids will listen and have incentive to follow the coaches instruction for the pay day if the get to the NFL….Gruden wore thin with veteran players at the end….of course there were many elements not in the picture today, draft picks …cap space etc…

  42. DB55 Says:

    Its like reading anything from bucnation. #Pathetic

  43. mark2001 Says:

    Eric…some don’t care to do a little research. But back to your point…loss of first and second round picks, salary cap hell, a D coordinator leaving mid year and ownership that wouldn’t spend big bucs in FA after buying ManU on any top notch talent after Allen straightened out the salary cap, and such. But then, maybe they are too young to remember. Gruden should have been retained and Allen fired.

  44. ndog Says:

    Everyone on this board that still believes in Jameis needs to just sit back and relax and let all of the folks who are blinded by their preconceived hate for Jameis bury themselves by all of their foolish comments. I love the one about how he is regressing. How is that when he has a higher completion % and same TD/TO ratio and a higher QB rating than the previous 2 years. See there is a funny thing about facts, they always tell the truth regardless of what blind hate or dislike says. So let everyone believe what they WANT to believe and the truth will win out cause it always does.

  45. ndog Says:

    I love how everyone is all over the Jags cause they went on the road and beat a good team in the Steelers and beat Seattle at home. Does that sound like anyone last year that has fallen apart this year? This is a fickly league folks and it turns on a dime, don’t forget that.

  46. mark2001 Says:

    Altered…a number of Vets say otherwise, as they matured and looked at their careers in the rear view mirrors. Admittedly he never worried about being a people person, but he has matured, as we all have. I know he had run ins with some media personalities and at least one fan favorite player… yet those guys that felt sighted now feel no responsibility for helping run one of the best coaches this organization has ever had. So only JG was “the problem”? And if you think his HR skills were a problem among grown men, his HR skills among youngsters, many not even out of their teens, would be even a bigger problem. So that logic is pretty far out.

  47. 813bucboi Says:


    your coach got us in this mess with his incompetence….luckily for us, he wont be the one to get us out of this hole!!!!!!….the coaching search is in full effect!!!!!…..the glazers have already made a reservation for a few PODS container to help dirk and smitty get the h3ll out of town 01/01/2018!!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!

  48. 813bucboi Says:

    dirk is the reason Winston is looking like blake bortles…..Winston and others have regressed under dirk’s watch…..time to send him packing!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!

  49. Dewey Selmon Says:

    When you have an inaccurate qb in a vertical offense wouldn’t you ajust your offense to fit the qb? 3 step drops, slants and 10-12 yards curl/comeback. There is just not an excuse why any qb cant nickle/dime themselves down the field with Evans, Brate, Howard, Jackson and Godwin.

  50. not there yet Says:

    Well bortles is on the way to the playoffs, if Winston had good record I’d take it. People wanting to get rid of a first overall pick, the team got behind that average quarterback and look where they are now, we need a head coach that’s not overwhelmed handling all his duties someone who knows how to diagnose the problem and fix it. No more coordinators or first time coaches. Get someone who won’t be the 4th best coach in the division and we’ll win.

    And to the Joe’s, NFC West used to be tough like our division in the days of harbaugh but real coaches aren’t afraid of a tough division, it’s only 6 games out of the year

  51. The Buc Realist Says:


    I and many other would just like to fix the “real” problem with the team and that is too fix the trenches and this team will be just fine!!!!!!! Some don’t people don’t fall into your category that you cannot have a bad year and not be fired unless you run the Tampa2!!!!!!!

    #Fix the “real” problem!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. America's Groper Says:

    3 years in the NFL and no excuses. Get garbage yards all you want, BUT points on the board (besides FG) matters.

  53. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @Pickgrin…totally agree. Somehow I don’t think years of being in the media circles, having people bow and scrape to hear what you think, never subject to hard critique yourself, will make Gruden lose his ego. He’s probably worse!
    And he’s been out of it. I’d obviously support him, but I’d rather take a student of Belicheat…ouch! Hurt to say that.

  54. I Bleed Pewter and Red Says:

    Ok, so I am to believe it is all Doug Martins fault that Winston is constantly turning the ball over? It’s Martins fault for Winston’s inaccuracy on deep passes? It’s Martins fault Winston is sacked a lot because Winston has a habit of holding onto the ball too long? It’s Martin’s fault that Winston has a habit of telegraphing the snap count and the tendency to stare down receivers? When does Winston become accountable in your protective bubble? If it weren’t Martin, would it be someone else’s fault?

  55. Joe Says:

    Ok, so I am to believe it is all Doug Martins fault that Winston is constantly turning the ball over? It’s Martins fault for Winston’s inaccuracy on deep passes? It’s Martins fault Winston is sacked a lot because Winston has a habit of holding onto the ball too long? It’s Martin’s fault that Winston has a habit of telegraphing the snap count and the tendency to stare down receivers? When does Winston become accountable in your protective bubble? If it weren’t Martin, would it be someone else’s fault?

    Not sure what you are suggesting. Joe’s never, ever dodged how Jameis needs to stop fumbling. What that has to do with Doug Martin, Joe isn’t sure.

  56. 813bucboi Says:

    your post have become more like pleas for your coach…..dirk is the problem…he’ll get fixed alright…fixed up with a PODS container and a few movers….GO BUCS!!!!

  57. Negative Jeff Says:

    I love this. This has to be motivation for JW. Motivate him to stop being so careless with the football.

  58. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Jameis Winston wants to be a gunslinger, win-it-all-by-himself-type QB, but he just doesn’t have the talent. He needs structure, discipline, and a good supporting cast to save him (and his team) from himself. The problem is that Team Glazer will fork over a lot of loot to keep him in Tampa and probably wreck the cap in the process. #GlazerLootIsTheBest

  59. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    He’s at the kernel of our disappointment…it lies with our OL.

    I was a big optimist at the start of the season for all the usual reasons. What disappointed us?

    DJAX’s long ball production disappeared. He and #3 never developed any chemistry and the long ball went missing. Whose fault is that? Coaches? DJAX?
    #3? Well…DJAX has a long illustrious record of getting open and catching deep balls…Koetter has been in the league for a long time and is respected for his passing thoughts….#3? Accuracy issues on the long ball?

    Running game was bad but it wasn’t because of Doug. I AGREE Joe that Doug was/is highly overrated and in fact Peyton Barber should have had way more carries But any decent running back can produce with an OL…remember Bobby Rainey? LOL

    Our OL is the MAJOR disappointment. Ali played well and will make an All Pro Center….both of our offensive tackles were wildly inconsistent…sometimes good sometimes horrid….and Pamphile and Sweezy just had mediocre to poor seasons. It’s as simple as that. There are many reasons for our struggles but you could start right up front.

    This is a team that could not run block and could not rush the passer. We are lucky to have four wins!!!!

  60. NFLNut Says:


    Jameis could reply with, “I think the media spins things the way they want to spin things. Did they compare me to Bortles? Sure. But they could have shown that my numbers through my first 40 games are better than Peyton Mannings and Ben Roethlisberger’s as well. They simply decide what narrative they want to run with and they run with and I can’t control that so I don’t let it bother me. Listen, in my healthy games this year I’m leading the league in passing yards per game and even if you count all the games I played hurt, I still am setting personal career highs in completion percentage and QB rating. Also, I’m not sure if you know but I have a higher TD % and lower INT % than reigning MVP Matt Ryan this year, despite me playing part of the year with an injured throwing shoulder. I also don’t know if you’re aware but I’m about to become the first player in the history of the NFL to top 11,000 passing yards before their 24th birthday. So, yeah, if I haven’t progressed as much as people think I should have, I guess I’d take that as a compliment as it must mean those people expected me to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers by the time I was 23 and that’s flattering. However, the truth is that I’m a 23 year old young man just working his butt off to get better each and every day. Rome wasn’t built in a day and I know their are ups and downs in every QBs career, so I’m just looking forward to getting better and seeing myself and this team reach it’s potential.


    However, as I’ve said before, Jameis was created by God to be a star QB1 and he knows how to handle the media …


  61. T Syce Says:

    Damn Joe. is Winston ur kid or something. The dude is average at best. He’s wishy washy face it. Stop getting ur feathers ruffled every time ppl state the obvious jeez.

  62. Bucsace Says:

    I hear you T Syce…….A lot of people on this site including Joe seem to want to live vicariously through Winston….don’t really understand what the fascination is with this guy……I’m happy that Jameis is now a millionaire and I hope he lives up to his potential…..but if he doesn’t…SO WHAT! ….he’s going to survive whatever happens in Tampa and come out ok…..and if the Bucs have to get a new QB…ok it’s happened here before lots of times……Living vicariously through someone else is a sad way to go through life!

  63. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Unfortunately the numbers comparison they posted in that article weren’t very good for your arguments sake. A blind person could see Jameis is a better QB but at the same time he turns the ball over way too often and doesn’t step up when we need him too, something great QBs tend to do.

    Until we get better with our OLine and DLine it won’t matter. And making Barber our #1 RB should be a must at this point as well