“We Are Doing A Lot Of Handwringing”

November 3rd, 2017

More shoulder chatter.

Last week America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, had a horrendous game, perhaps the worst of his career, certainly the worst of the season.

A lot of folks are pointing to his shoulder or lack of practice prior to the game last week as the root cause. Well, winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter scoffed at such notions when he had his weekly sitdown with Scott Smith of Buccaneers.com.

And Koetter also noted that folks inside the walls at One Buc Palace are as nervous about Jameis’ bum shoulder as some fans.

Koetter was asked by Smith if last week’s rotten game against the Stinking Panthers was just a “blip” and if Jameis’ focus was this week has been sufficient.

“His focus has been spectacular like you would expect it to be,” Koetter said of Jameis. “I would fully expect [last week’s game] is a blip on the radar. Everyone is talking about, I get asked about, he didn’t throw last week and he didn’t have his best game. … Well, he didn’t throw the week before and he played fine. There is a lot more factors than that.

“Trust me we are doing a lot of handwringing inside the building about Jameis’ shoulder, too. But like no one seems to listen, for the one-millionth time, that if our doctors thought Jameis was at any risk of more damage than you would get in a normal game, any more risk than that, then he wouldn’t be playing.”

Well, Bucs fans are nervous, and understandably so. Look at what happened to Andrew Luck. Who knows if he can come back or not? Joe suspects he had clearance from Colts doctors, too.

Having a franchise quarterback with a bum wing is enough to get unnerved. With Luck’s status in the news, it just fuels the stomach acid over Jameis’ shoulder. Luck’s issue and Jameis’ issue may be apples and oranges but until Jameis rebounds from that garbage game last week, and doctors on the other side of the country don’t freak people out by guessing Jameis’ injury, Bucs fans likely won’t relax until the shroud of mystery is lifted.

Or until Jameis repeats his Buffalo performance.

36 Responses to ““We Are Doing A Lot Of Handwringing””

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:






    ……………we just want a win

  2. 813bucboi Says:

    And Koetter also noted that folks inside the walls at One Buc Palace are as nervous about Jameis’ bum shoulder as some fans are.

    this doesn’t make since….why are they nervous?…if the doctors say he’s fine then whats to worry about….that’s why im calling BS….Winston is injured and their playing him to save their jobs….he gives them the best chance to win…if you gong to go down, might as well go down swinging…well, we’re going down and dirk is swinging for the fences….

    we have to get this incompetent coach and his staff otta here before Winston becomes the next Andrew Luck or RG3….GO BUCS!!!!

  3. wewantgruden Says:

    JameisNOT will have a good game from a statistics perspective because he will be playing from behind and NOLA will be in prevent D. Just like the Buffalo game. Over under on turnovers is 3.

    Caring Bucs Fan

  4. 813bucboi Says:


  5. Dewey Selmon Says:

    We can all talk until we’re blue in the face. This team and fanbase needs a victory. Simple as that. Stop forcing the ball to Djax, concentrate on 8-10 yards curls and digs to your TE’s and get Evans the ball like the good old days.

  6. wewantgruden Says:

    The Bucs brass would have sat him when he initially injured his shoulder if they truly thought there was longterm value. Look what Indy did with Andrew Luck on the same exact injury. They are trying to appease the base while actually hoping that he falls on his face so they can bring someone else in. It is a fine balancing act as you got to sell tickets and everything else that comes with it. After all, it is a business and not a sport.

  7. Sweep the leg Says:

    This game isn’t even worth wasting a Sunday on. Been a fan since 1986.

    It’s ALWAYS the same ole story.

    Other than about 4years or so this team has been garbage. It’s exhausting.

    The coaches have nothing of any importance to say.

    How about just stfu until your sorry ashes start winning games.

    It’s really pathetic with the talent on this team.

  8. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    This is it folks…MUST WIN!…Lose and it becomes another season down the tubes…at mid-season, ugh…

  9. Boise Buc Says:

    Joe – Typo in title.
    Not seeing one.–Joe

  10. JabooBuc Says:

    Bucs win this weekend. Why? Because it’s the No Freaking Logic league. Mark it down.

  11. DB55 Says:

    Case Keenum 364 yards 3 TDs

    Adrian Peterson 134 yards 2 TDs

    Nick Folk 0/3 Fgs loss to NE by 5points.

    Smh Jameis really does suck. Cut him now!

  12. GhostofSchiano Says:

    for the one-millionth time, that if our doctors thought Jameis was at any risk of more damage than you would get in a normal game, any more risk than that, then he wouldn’t be playing.”


    Does anyone know if these are the same doctors from the MRSA incident’s a few years back?

    IF YES then hopefully someone at one Buc place sent him to see Dr. Andrews.

    If NO then hopefully someone at one Buc place sent him to see Dr. Andrews.

  13. BUC MAN Says:


  14. GhostofSchiano Says:

    813bucboi Says:

    …….. before Winston becomes the next Andrew Luck or RG3….GO BUCS!!!!


    After reading a story on Andrew Luck’s situation I am all in favor of sitting Winston.

  15. Pickgrin Says:

    Winston is tough. He’ll be OK. He knows he has a long NFL career ahead of him and I seriously doubt he would make decisions that would put his career in more jeopardy than the normal circumstances of life in the NFL do.

    I trust Jameis to take himself out if he felt his injury or lack of throwing capability was being a detriment to the team’s chances to win – just like he did in the Cardinals game. Winston took himself out of that game and kept himself out even after the momentum had turned. You saw him throwing on the sideline in the 2nd half – testing it out and he made the decision to accept that Fitz was the better option at that moment.

    If team DRs say Winston is at no greater risk than usual in playing – and if Jameis says he is OK to play – and if #3 is throwing with velocity in practice…

    Then guess what – he’s playing!

  16. GhostofSchiano Says:

    I am not sure if this is identical in nature or not by I too have had a sprained AC joint. First time was in my early 20’s from heavy bench pressing. I took a cortisone shot into the joint. I was told NO LIFTING for one month.

    When I went back I had to build up to my previous weight and in addition to that I wrapped my elbow for additional support. I never did return to full strength and in 1999 it began to swell up as it did before. So I took a second cortisone shot for it.

    The point is if it is severe he needs to go on IR until early December instead of forcing it. I admire him for wanting to play through the pain but would hate to lose him for 2018 because the coaching staff doesn’t stand up and shut him down.

  17. DallasBuc Says:

    [When appropriate, yes. There is a reason you are in the sin bin. — Joe]

  18. LakeLand Says:

    Jameis Winston will play Sunday and the rest of the season. The Bucs will play him so he can get his 4,000 passing yards. This team is all about stats, they could care less about winning. I don’t know if they are trying to justify him being the 1st overall draft pick. But they have place the franchise on his arm. They have zero interest in the run game. It’s all about Jameis passing for a lot of yardage.

  19. uckinator Says:

    If we lose this week at New Orleans, we’ll be too far back to logically make the playoffs. Then it will be time to fish or cut bait with famous Jameis’s arm.

  20. Sweep the leg Says:

    The season is already over.

    Stop with the wishful thinking.

    It’s done. Over. Kaput.

    Doesn’t matter if we win or not it’s OVER.

    Accept it now and save yourself the heartache.

  21. O Town Back Again Says:

    A lot of idiots on here…. Jameis is a good QB. The issue is no run game, bad defense and until recently bad kicking….all which is not a QB’s fault. Clean these things up and the Bucs are a top 10 team.

  22. unbelievable Says:

    wewantgruden Says:
    November 3rd, 2017 at 3:15 pm
    JameisNOT will have a good game from a statistics perspective because he will be playing from behind and NOLA will be in prevent D. Just like the Buffalo game.


    You just disqualified yourself from being taken seriously. Buffalo was playing a prevent D? lololololol


  23. DallasBuc Says:

    Have explained many times. Not wasting another minute on that.–Joe

  24. ruggyup Says:

    Hey Legsweeper, ditto from here on being a fan/follower since 1986. And a solid ditto to all your comments. Yes, it is pathetic. And I don’t understand a successful Glazer business empire being so inept in managing this sports asset. Were I a nasty gent I’d say they couldn’t manage a pay toilet based on the Bucs record.

  25. westernbuc Says:

    The doctor that freaked people out had no test results, no images, x rays or whatever. It’s unethical for a doctor to attempt to diagnose someone without actually evaluating them.

    I trust our team doctors that examine Jameis on a day to day basis.

    As for any notion that he should be shut down, we’re two games behind the division leader that we play on Sunday, a team that has beaten nothing but losers. If this offense clicks, and GMC can get in Brees face, and our linebackers make some turnovers, Bucs leave with a W.

    And this is incomparable to the Colts. Their offensive line can’t pass block of their life depended on it. Colin Cowherd has a theory that Luck was never gonna play anyways this year. And to be honest, he’s probably right.

  26. GhostofSchiano Says:

    It is looking more and more like they will play him from here on out. Just hope he doesn’t get hurt more than he already is. This is in fact our franchise QB and should be for many year’s to come. GO BUCS!

  27. BucEmUp Says:

    Maybe it is time for Dirk to give up playcalling to Monken. Excecution has been bad but I have not enough of our rbs in the passing game and it seems the hc gig is getting koetter. Let monken call plays this week maybe dirk needs to worry about the entire team.

  28. brooks55hof Says:

    So Ayers is “hurt”. Out with ankle injury. Retirement home mentality, here we go again. It’s funny that when we need our leaders to step up, the mysterious injury bug hits. PLEASE scour the practice squads for players that want to play and compete for a job and that are not are on this team to collect coin. “When’s payday coach?” Enough of this, NO JOB IS SAFE
    Who said he’s “out?”–Joe

  29. Brad Isherwood Says:

    Bucs Management /Coach @hit on Ryan Fitzpatrick ,….who rescued the team from absolute Humiliation Vs Cardinals.
    He deserved the Start in Buffalo.
    Result. …the Magi @hit on him and told him he is of low value!
    Bucs lost in Buffalo….slow start again. …and JW hurt or re injured his shoulder.
    Now he’s dinged for Panthers game. …and the result is the team drops a loaf at center field at Home.

    You did it to yourselves!
    Your team is completely dysfunctional. …the Coaches to Glazer are messed up just the same.
    If you can’t make adjustments and reward good play by the few players who are giving you their best.
    You dont deserve to get paid millions and make excuses every week

    Atlanta moved on from both these Coaches. …there’s a reason that happened.

  30. Hodad Says:

    Shut him down, let him get with Gruden so he can have his play book down come OTA’s.

  31. ClodHopper Says:

    Koetter sounds like he’s full of it here. I think he’s panicking because the Glazers give a coach two years.

    Here’s to hoping he’s not fckn anything up

  32. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    He’s not hurt and he’s not a franchise quarterback period he just sucks!Next

  33. Broy34WantsGruden Says:

    Wewantgruden—-god you must looooooove the attention you get claiming Winston sucks on every articles comment sections. Like you don’t know what you’re gonna hear spewing that GARBAGE. Oh the joebucsfan.com comment section. Gotta love it. So glad I have a wife,good job and assassin’s Creed etc to occupy my time. Still Loving the articles Joe. Thankyou also for mentioning how much better Hargreaves has been

  34. firethecannons Says:

    if Hargreaves can make it back to some semblance of a decent player–so can Jameis and and so can this team, we need more pieces on defense(next draft we’ll get to pick high} and Jameis needs to get laser focused along with all the rest of the players we can beat the saints–we just have to seriously want to and Mike Smith needs to dial up better defense Jameis will have good days again hopefully this sunday

  35. Brion Says:

    I’m more concerned that when completely healthy he can’t throw a deep ball and won’t throw a short one.

  36. JMarkBuc Says:

    No need to worry about permanently damaging the franchise QB. Because he isn’t one. Only in Tampa coulda wildly inaccurate, boneheaded decision making QB, be the face of the franchise. Smfh.