Screens Are Working
November 22nd, 2017
“What do you like here, ‘Monk?'”
Joe’s had to mop up his living room more than once on Sundays this fall when Joe sees that damned 40-yard bomb to DeSean Jackson fail. Again. And again.
Joe’s tossed a bowl of Doritos across the room more than once because of it.
One play that seems to be working for the Bucs is a screen pass.
The good guys over at BSPN’s NFL Matchup have done a serious dive into yards gained on certain plays and this time uncovered the shroud from screen passes. They claim the Bucs are 10th in the NFL in yards gained off screens — 139 yards this year, an average of 5.8 yards a play.
Joe’s a big believer into going to a well with water. So until that well runs dry, like the 40-yard pass attempts, the Bucs might want to lean on screens a bit more.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:06 am
Screens, slants, and draw plays dang it. No idea why they didnt run more draw plays in the first 8 games. Probably would have won a couple of them. When you’re passing that much the draw would and should pick up big gains. I recall one, went to jacquizz for 36. Yet djax gets a few bombs a game that go for 0. You do the math.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:12 am
thought we had an offensive guru on the staff?…..GO BUCS!!!!
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:14 am
5.8 yards per screen seems below average, as the graphic pretty well lays out. Of course, our 3.1 ypc running back also has 7 catches. One for every million dollars he makes this year, that’s fun.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:25 am
Here’s what kills me about cutter. If you gonna run the screen pass why are you throwing it to Hump instead of Djax? If you gonna run the reverse why give it to reedy instead of Djax? If these guys are faster or quicker than Djax then why did you sign Djax?
Monken should be fired immediately. If my 1st rd 7th overall pick Godzilla-beast-child WR is in the negative on yac yards I’m firing my receivers coach. Idgaf
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:38 am
Sure the screen works between the 20s as do many other plays for Koetter….but he likes to run to protect the 3 points….and now that we have a consistent kicker, it will probably get worse.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:47 am
DB55
Did you see ME13 that awful spin move a few games ago. Mike isn’t a runner, never has been. What he is, is the best contested ball receiver in the league. It’s not Monkens fault Mike catches the ball and looks for the ground. What Mike did need are more one on one jump balls and back shoulder throws down field.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:51 am
It’s not Monkens fault
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Is it not his job to fix it? Is it not his job to coach him to be the best? Best contested ball catcher? Lmao, is that a thing? And if so, have you not seen Julio Jones play recently?
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:58 am
They signed DJax figuring the star could hit him and use his speed. Only to find out he can’t hit him. Well maybe on a short pass that he can with any other receiver. More wasted money on good talent.
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:59 am
Conte Piscateli Says:
November 22nd, 2017 at 10:47 am
DB55
What Mike did need are more one on one jump balls and back shoulder throws down field.
^^^What’s so funny about this is that there isn’t a QB on this roster that can make a back shoulder throw. Maybe back shoulder but 15 yards out of bounds or back shoulder of the DB covering but it won’t make it to the target that’s for sure.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:22 am
I agree DB55. It’s perplexing to me that we throw almost solely to Hump when there are other WRs who are faster and more elusive.
Don’t get me started on the jet-sweep or reverses!
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:26 am
DBS and Derrickbrooks
First of all I don’t even like your names. Looks like you trying to bite my chit.
Second, maybe we should have drafted Mariota I hear he’s been killing it.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:30 am
DB55
You do know Julio Jones retuned kicks and punts at Alabama. He has always been a stud with the ball in his hands. I’m just saying ME13 isn’t that kind of player, not his game never has been and the Bucs knew this when they drafted him. Mike isn’t a quick explosive make you miss kind of guy, his best option would be to try and power through DBs.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:31 am
Bucfan
Yea and what happen to Rodgers? He’s not complete garbage yet he don’t see the field no mo.
Brate has virtually disappeared and OJ is the worst utilized weapon in the league.
Personally I think cutter fu the season by trying to force the ball to Djax but wtfdik.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:32 am
This was obvious for the last 2 years, but we are going to fool the defense by NOT running screens. About time Koetter went deep into his high school play book. I try not to be a Dirk basher, but these things are so obvious to the entire Buc Nation, why in the world does it take so long. Same thing with Mike Smith and his blitzes. It is like they are punking us, where’s Ashton Kutcher? These to “Gurus” are just figuring out how to win, when the fans have been telling them for 2 years! Holy crap!!
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:36 am
DB55- Amen dude. Too busy trying to throw the long ball and forgot about ALL the other great weapons.
For a supposed “offensive mind”, his playbook is like milk-toast, flavorless!
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:37 am
Too bad Koetter refuses to call what works.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:42 am
Conte
I hate your name too! Not bc of you but bc of Chris. Lol.
Idk about mike, he’s awesome an all but his yac has been non-existent for 2 years now. I don’t expect him to be obj but dam
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:44 am
Def needs to update his playbook or his thinking
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:54 am
But what Koetter likes to use more of is the five yard loss pitch.
November 22nd, 2017 at 11:56 am
“loss pitch” LMAO!
That page in the play-book needs to be burned!
November 22nd, 2017 at 12:46 pm
It’s almost like some of us were calling for screens and quick passes / slants since the beginning of the season…
November 22nd, 2017 at 12:55 pm
Not almost-unbelievable- we have been calling for it because historically it slows the pass rush a little and or O-Line is like a sieve. Doug Martin will probably take the fall for the running game but this O-Line has been awful, I don’t care what stat may be offered up. The eyes don’t lie!!
November 22nd, 2017 at 2:02 pm
They started off well with screens last Sunday for sure. But the Fins adjusted the second half it seems. So they won’t work as well Sunday but somehow I think Koetter will spend three quarters trying. When it’s too late, he’ll go for Howard and Godwin and Martino. More Sims on 3rd down all day…to not fool anyone.
The Bucs have to run the ball well Sunday to even stay in the game. The O line has to blow open some holes. I wonder if it’s Marpet getting off the ball and others following–timing–don’t know.
Law of averages: INTs last week by Fitz? 0. Uh oh. Means it could be ugly this week. Hope not.
November 22nd, 2017 at 5:32 pm
I mean… it was open time after time too.
Too bad we didn’t have a QB that could take advantage of it.
November 22nd, 2017 at 6:06 pm
I know JJ, I know….
“J0e’s infallible o-line”
😜😂
November 22nd, 2017 at 6:41 pm
Joes – might it be possible that because the Bucs throw bombs that fail, they at least show their willingness to heave it deep, which ( if anyone with a functional cerebral cortex might recognize) could open up a screen pass since you have deep ball pass rush and players covering deep? I know. Integral calculus.
November 22nd, 2017 at 7:58 pm
Call me crazy but I wanna see Sims more on 1st or 2nd down if we can’t run. At least then they think we’re gonna pass. Play action bootleg throwback screen to Sims. Maybe give him a few toss plays too. We need to get some more speed on outside runs. Powers and sweeps…. screens. Play Quiz more too.