It’s About Wins

November 3rd, 2017

Starts with him.

America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, doesn’t want to hear about statistics.

The only number he gives a damn about is the one next to the win column. And with the Bucs struggling this season and much closer to a top-five pick in next April’s draft then they are a wild card berth, Jameis admitted he’s scrambling for a way to get things turned around, and he says the fortunes of the Bucs begin with him.

Talking yesterday at his weekly presser, Jameis sounded as if the entire responsibility rests on his wounded wing.

“Stats don’t really matter. Wins matter, especially at this position,” Jameis said. “I compete against everybody. … The ultimate thing that defines a quarterback is that win column, so it doesn’t matter how good someone’s looking or numbers – you’ve got to win and that’s what I’m not doing right now. We’ve got to win. That’s in my blood. I’ve got to find a way to do it.

“Sitting at 2-5 with the statistics that we have as an offense, we [couldn’t] even imagine that we would be sitting [in] this position. But if we were sitting at 5-2 and we had worse stats, it really wouldn’t be a conversation.”

Joe understands fans think the players have mailed it in, especially after the Shat Show last Sunday. Joe’s agrees some players are just out there for the checks. But there is no question one player is likely losing sleep he’s so upset by the mounting losses.

That would be Jameis.

46 Responses to “It’s About Wins”

  1. Lamarcus Says:

    This has to stressing him out. His press after the game sunday u can tell he hated answering the same got damn questions. Jw will be on fire Sunday

  2. wewantgruden Says:

    He has only himself to blame. 3 bonehead turnovers and scoring only 3 points in an NFL game is a joke. Start Fitz and we at least have a chance. Look at what he did in Arizona with no 1st team reps all year. Preacher boy needs to take a seat in the pew with his clipboard and learn how to play the game of NFL QB

  3. MTM Says:

    I would love to see Jameis use the pump fake. He doesn’t look off defenders and just goes directly to the first read at times on big plays (3rd down especially) makes it easy for the defense to pick him off.

  4. mike n Says:

    The one stat that matters is turnovers. We keep losing that, we keep losing games.

  5. DB55 Says:

    But there is no question one player is likely losing sleep he’s so upset by the mounting losses.
    Welp! We know of at least one player who is sleeping snug as a bug. With 13 million visions of sugarplums dancing in his head. 812,500 sugarplums per week to be exact.

  6. Mike Johnson Says:

    Jameis is going to ro be on Fire Sunday? he’s gonna need to be a raging blaze against them Saints. Unlike what we supposedly have on paper, Them Saints got a Pass rush and a good one at that. Saints 38 BUCS 20

  7. Bobby M. Says:

    If this team wants to be considered a legit playoff caliber team, they have to start beating playoff caliber opponents.

    I put this season on Licht….he didn’t take care of the kicking position….it cost us early in the year. We moved lineman around…there’s no chemistry whatsoever which hinders Winston further from getting his motor going. He rolled the dice on TWO DEs coming off surgeries as starters…..neither are playing. Lastly the fascination with collecting safeties….what is that even about? The unit was playing decent in the 2nd half of last season, now its blown assignments and missed tackles every week while we try to appease our veteran free agent signing and recent draft pick….and the two existing safeties. #DeathByAThousandCuts

  8. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    I know the backing of Jameis is vital to the website but you gotta take the blindfold off…He’s not progressing like he should…The stupid fumbles and locking onto one receiver are the things that bad QBs do…Patience is growing thin…Other young QBs with less talent around them are doing better…He’s not Americas QB by a longshot…More like Vinny Testaverde right now, ugh….

  9. JabooBuc Says:

    One thing we can all agree on is that wewantgruden is an idiot.

  10. Lamarcus Says:

    Wewantgruden never have any merit to his beliefs that jw sucks. Jw is the beat damn thing to happen to this franchise outside the sb. And he sucks. How juming off the climb? Ugh I mean ship?

  11. DB55 Says:

    2 out of 3 turnovers were directly caused by pressure, on both he was being hit.

    He ain’t got time to pump fake, he hardly has time to drop back before someone is in his face.

    Last night you saw Mccown throwing under a clean pocket. Jameis don’t get clean pockets he gets defenders in his face.

  12. DB55 Says:

    So who is the better young qb? Inquiring minds want to know.

  13. Lamarcus Says:

    Db55. NoNE. I’ll take jw than about 28 starters in this league today

  14. wewantgruden Says:

    I am a Bucs fan for life and only speak the truth. I have bucs tags on my cars, a buccaneers pimped out golf kart and nearly a 100K bucs man cave.

    My comments are legit. JW is not leader material. He cannot lead a group of full grown men. Either you have “it” or you do not. You have to have it when you are in the huddle looking into your teammates eyes. His teammates are not fighting for him because they do not believe in him. The head coach cannot coach a player to have the fire in your belly to help the man next to you. You have to have a QB that can inspire this. Jameis does not. It does not help when he states that the team does not have an identity. Keeping it real yall

  15. Kobe Faker Says:

    Wewantgruden = Justin Pawloski

    Disgrutled matchstick carrier

  16. Lamarcus Says:


    You be stuck in 2013 ca use what u are describing is Josh freeman. Do u know what qb is on out team or nah? Jw is 23 and leading millionAires is not what u think. How about ur boy gmc? He can’t lead a blind dog to his food bowl. But it all on this kid to turn it around. Ur agruement has no merit of course.

  17. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    There are 53 players on the roster plus PS players. There are what…a dozen or so coaches. There is a GM…his assistants…scouting staff…bottom line…well over 100 individuals have involvement and fingerprints on this team.

    But hey let’s do the logical thing! Let’s look for one or two scapegoats out of that 100 person mix and dump it all on them. Neat, clean simple and requires no nuance or understanding of the game.

    So who do I SINGLE out for all the shame. I say it’s the Bucs cheerleaders. They just don’t whip our guys into a big enough frenzy. Yeah that’s the ticket. Better babes on the sideline and our team improves instantly. Makes about as much sense as much of the stuff I’ve been reading here.

  18. Bucsfanman Says:

    I think you’re on to something there StPeteBucsFan! Those pom-poms don’t look regulation size to me!

  19. Lamarcus Says:

    Lol st Pete

    Yea I agree. Those cheerleaders are not pretty enough. Maybe we need to draft a cheerleader in the second round to turn things around in Tampa

  20. 813bucboi Says:

    agree with jameis….don’t want to hear sh!t about the #2 passing offense led by an offensive guru that sits at 2-5…..GO BUCS!!!!

  21. JabooBuc Says:

    Wewantgruden- interesting that his entire team considers him a great leader with “it” in spades. Also, he won a national championship in college as a freshman (red shirt) and took his team to the playoffs the following year. Literally every coach that comes into contact with him talks about his leadership.

    But you know better because you have a Bucs man cave and golf cart. Absolute idiot.

  22. DB55 Says:

    I just want to know which 3rd year qb is better?

  23. Jim Says:

    Only wins matter and the Bucs aren’t winning. Let’s see what happens in New Orleans and we better hope these guys are sleeping in their rooms, peacefully, by 1O:OO…

  24. JabooBuc Says:

    DB55- they don’t know. They just like to troll. This team will get better and they will disappear. Just watch…

  25. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    @DB55 …Watson[rookie], Wentz, Prescott and Goff….that’s 4

  26. wewantgruden Says:

    jaboo/lamarcus: you got to stop fighting the fight because is a you brother. Its Okay to let it go. He is not NFL caliber QB. Now get back to your government assistance checks, it is the first week of those months when your checks come it. God bless America.

  27. DB55 Says:

    Goff is a joke right? You can’t be serious.

    Dak has the best oline and rb in the country.

    Wentz and Watson very very possible. No arguement with Wentz the kid is nice but Watson won’t finish his first year so that one is meh.

  28. jim burns Says:

    Leadership is by performing , not talking . He talks a lot .

  29. Pickgrin Says:

    wewantgruden = idiot/troll

    Is that you Robert9? Tampa Tony? Or just a kissin cousin?

  30. DB55 Says:

    Goff – 1719 yards 9 TDS 4 int (7 games)
    JW – 1853 yards 10 TDS 6 Int (6 games)

    And JW doesn’t have Todd Gurley in the backfield.

    Gurley – 627 yards 5 tds
    Martin – 247 yards 2 tds

  31. Lamarcus Says:

    Wewantgruden is a pure Idoitneer looks like ur bucs cave have white flags through out. Jw is not a nfl caliber? Ur not human caliber

  32. NFLNut Says:

    “Wewantgruden” is “celler dueler” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA


  33. wewantgruden Says:

    NFLNUT: Great analysis about football and the players, as usual. You add zero value to this chat room. I know it hurts that the Bucs sucks. We can discuss if you can make the NOLA game. Although, I doubt you have a pot to piss in.

  34. Buc1987 Says:

    Anybody with a name like wewantgruden is an a-hole….that’s just to start.

    Sorry Joe…I’ll behave now.

  35. wewantgruden Says:

    Lamarcus: you do see that your name comes up as a spelling error within Microsoft’s operating system (Lamarcus). That makes you a son of an idiot yourself. Your parents cannot even spell your own name correctly. Your father should have pulled out. Although, you probably only have a list of suspects.

    Now let’s talk facts about football. The Bucs have been my team since 78 AND Doug Williams to this day is a very good friend of mine, so cut the racial innuendos.

  36. Lamarcus Says:


    I’m lost of wtf u are talking about. U MUST be high or drunk or both. Idoitneers don’t belong on Joebucsfan man. Can’t u tell ur way of course with everyone else?

  37. Kobe Faker Says:

    wewantgruden = Scott Reynolds Son

  38. Lamarcus Says:

    There is a word I call dumb Buccaneers fans that Microsoft doesn’t recognize either: Idoitneers. Idoitneers are stupid bucs fans. Wewantgruden is a perfect example of one

  39. unbelievable Says:

    lol I’m still trying to figure out what username wewantgruden used to post under until the last week or so.

    I think Tampa Tony and Robert9 were both excellent guesses!

    What about big hog, haven’t seen him around in a while? or bucs anthem?

    The common denominator between them all is that none of them have any clue what they are talking about when the post comments. LOL at the microsoft operating system line…

  40. wewantgruden Says:

    I will be at the game. we can always meet up for a beer. Don’t worry, I will buy.

  41. OAR Says:

    Jimmy McGinty: You know what seperates the winners from the losers?
    Shane Falco: The score.

  42. JabooBuc Says:

    wewantgruden: you seem really hung up on money which usually means you don’t come from it or don’t really have it. Either way, no big deal. Money isn’t everything. Hang in there!

  43. BUCLUV55 Says:

    Some of you idiots need an open hand slap straight to the lips, like the whiney beetches you are. Yes, that’s means you 100k man cave. Clueless clown.

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  45. unbelievable Says:

    I would love to be at the game honestly, was actually in New Orleans last weekend. Absolutely love that city.

    Putting all this blame on Winston is misguided. While he has not played good enough, there have been failings on both sides of the team and up through the coaching staff and organization.

    You guys that keep bringing up Wentz, Dak, Watson, etc., need to realize those teams have strong running games (cuz their o lines can actually run block!) and even more importantly, they have good defenses.

  46. PRBucFan Says:

    ahahaha Even the good ole superstar says what I was trying to tell his water boy yesterday (NUT) who is constantly getting off to the stats as opposed to focusing on the only thing that matters the W’s.

    Funny how he is nowhere to be found on this thread. rofl