Koetter Calls Out Critics
August 9th, 2017
Has long memory.
It seemingly doesn’t matter which team. It’s every team, win or lose.
Fans whine about playcalling.
Not sure how many of Joe’s readers watched Rock Riley’s video report at training camp this morning, but that subject came up thanks to Rock.
In his post-practice press conference, Rock asked Koetter if the first preseason game gives him a chance to shake off the rust in calling plays. Koetter had a very pointed response.
“Well, I am sure there are plenty of people that think my playcalling stinks,” Koetter said. “But I’ve been doing it for 35 years. I don’t think I’m going to forget how.”
So there you have it. Try telling Koetter he doesn’t know what he’s doing calling plays, and he will tell you to shove it up your nether regions.
August 9th, 2017 at 2:19 pm
I don’t think he’s got too many people saying that..he gave us a winning season..SMDFH at those that do..I hate arm-chair coaches..
August 9th, 2017 at 2:23 pm
Those critics seem few and far between in my honest opinion.
August 9th, 2017 at 2:23 pm
The Godfather speaks!!!
August 9th, 2017 at 2:30 pm
“You can never carry my stick arm-chair coaches!!!” – The Godfather!
August 9th, 2017 at 2:36 pm
i agree with IJWT. anybody sitting around and calling DK a poor playcaller is overlooking far greater crimes against football by other playcallers around the league on both sides of the ball. locally, Dirk is easily the best playcaller we have seen on either side of the ball since the Gruden\Kiffin tandem moved out of One Buc
August 9th, 2017 at 2:38 pm
@Life
I hate arm-chair coaches..
But…but…these guys watch so much football. They record games and rewind…are you trying to tell me that somebody that has ACTUALLY DONE it knows more than a blogger/fan more than a PROFESSIONAL who has put his career on the line for 35 years at multiple levels of the sport. I hear ya Life!!!
I would like to add another even more onerous group IMO. We now have arm chair psychatrists as well! It’s freaking amazing! We have some guys here who have never spent a minutes time with GMC who can analyze him and tell us exactly how he feels and what he wants!
I do not expect posters here to love GMC or appreciate his All pro stats and contributions. You make ZERO points however and of course every EXPERT in the league disagrees with you…especially those who have to game plan against GMC….but that’s your opinion and I assume you’re basing it on something you see. But NOBODY knows what these players REALLY are feeling unless the player says so out loud. What’s sad here is players and coaches can actually say things yet our posters disagree knowing more how the player feels than the player himself.
It’s the same thing with DK’s playcalling. DK knows which players are truly healthy…which are performing at which level…do we suppose Hawley’s bad knees influenced play calling…the complete collapse at RT last year…the abysmal performance of our “star” RB…the defense he was facing…of course people typing on a blog have even more information. (snark font off now)
August 9th, 2017 at 2:39 pm
Nah! He ain’t gittin’ off dat easy. That first play where he always runs Doug Martin right into the middle and there are 8 men in the box sucks. Take dat!
August 9th, 2017 at 2:49 pm
Well Joker we won’t see Martin running up the middle for the first 3 weeks.
August 9th, 2017 at 2:52 pm
And no more 8 men in the box!
August 9th, 2017 at 3:03 pm
I only know 2 that really say that!!!!! 813bucboi and kobe liar!!!!!!!!! Lets see…..
813bucboi Says:
May 11th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
you brought up dirk not me…..and dirk admitted to f’ing up multiple time early in the season(rams,broncos,falcons)…..those are just facts….
glad to see dirk got his sh!t together but he still has work to do…..mainly play calling….
DIRK=JIM TOMSULA!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!”
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2017/05/the-difference-in-a-year/
and
Kobe Faker Says:
May 12th, 2017 at 3:06 pm
KOBE FAKERS 2017 STATE OF THE UNION (BUCS)
2016 Koetter as HC and Playcaller was first days of elementary school. conservative, scared, turtle,…What was happening was Koetter playcalling the whole team. run the ball on 3rd and punt. playcall timid field position not because it was the right thing to do, but he was too overloaded with decisions he wasnt capable to make…..etc
“What does every NFL team have that only Tampa Bay Bucs dont have?”
OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. You must have this position to not only help Koetter but to develop Jameis in gametime decision making. Jameis is soo bored or out of whats happenning he wants to play middle linebacker and headbut defenders. Where is Jameis mentally? He should be calm and looking for the next play….But he is all by himself on the sideline….etc
2017 playoffs? playing weak defensive teams jameis and our talent on the offensive side will win easily. however, against the better defenses and top DCs, Koetter and Jameis will bog down again because Jameis gametime decisionmaking skills is not developed without a OFFENSIVE COORDINOR
2017 we will not make the playoffs
MARK THIS DOWN. 2018 we will hire a OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2017/05/this-is-that-perfect-team/
August 9th, 2017 at 3:08 pm
Dano hit the nail right on the head. 8 men in the box will get you torched over the top now.
August 9th, 2017 at 3:20 pm
As long as the Oline plays at an adequate level – playcalling is going to be fun for Dirk this year.
Koetter has specific and unique talents to work with in Winston. Evans, DJax and Howard as a base – talents and skillsets that are hard to find in the NFL. These unique and considerable talents will allow for a much higher level of creativity when it comes to designing plays that can utilize those great talents.
It all starts with being able to run the ball though. If you can’t do that well – then all those “creative” plays are much harder to pull off because you can’t get the level of mismatches you would otherwise with a solid running attack.
Warhop needs to be pulling Chucky hours this year figuring out how to get this Oline whipped into shape and performing at a high level for their talents. If we can open holes for the RBs on the reg in 2017 – this offense is going to be special and fun to watch.
August 9th, 2017 at 3:28 pm
Meh. If can dish out criticism you better be able to take it in return. Can’t handle the heat? Then stay out of the kitchen
August 9th, 2017 at 3:34 pm
@stpete- Now see, there you go again discrediting all that football knowledge that can only be gleaned through the clouded eye of the Budweiser-laden, armchair QB’s eyes! Shame on you! The fans know better and YOU know this. 🙂
August 9th, 2017 at 3:35 pm
Your play calling in 2015 was excellent.
Your play calling in 2016 was God awful.
Glad I could clear it up for your Dirk.
August 9th, 2017 at 3:46 pm
Awwwe st Pete I’m sorry sir did I get your panties in a bunch? Want some ice cream I hear GMC is serving it cold and soft.
August 9th, 2017 at 3:57 pm
You know something I forgot about from the show is Winston asking the sensible question of Dirk, if you don’t want me to do too much, what does that mean? I went back and rewatched that section and Dirk just talks in circles. Dirk had best not clamp down too much on Winston – and his QB comparision is all wrong. Winston is less Tom Brady and more Brett Favre – and with Favre you lived and died with his play making. Sure Favre would lose games, like he did on a MNF game against the Bucs where he was sacked 6 times and had 5 fumbles and I think 2 INTs (by memory so maybe the numbers are off a bit) but then he somehow against that great Bucs defense he had it a one score game by the final drive – and he lost. Sure, the Packers could have played it safe – and they would have lost by probably 2 scores instead of 1 score. When you have a special talent like Winston, and he is special, you let him play – and that includes making mistakes because without that play making ability what do you have? You have a QB that just sits in the pocket and won’t turn the ball over, ie you have Mike Glennon.
August 9th, 2017 at 4:08 pm
^ yea but I think his whole point was he wants him to play more like Rodgers or Brady, AKA making quick and smart decisions with the football, not gunslinging interceptions. But Jameis is who he is.
August 9th, 2017 at 4:12 pm
Our coach is an OG PIRATE!!
August 9th, 2017 at 4:36 pm
Hey Rod, I think Dirk was comparing active Qb’s for Jameis to compare himself to. I myself compared Winston to Elway due to the baseball connection, the drive on their passes and the gate/hitch in their walks. Not the prettiest runner, but enough to get the job done.
August 9th, 2017 at 4:45 pm
I guess he basically suggested where to hold that big MFing stick.
August 9th, 2017 at 4:48 pm
Adding DJax & Howard will make the play calling much, much easier.
August 9th, 2017 at 4:50 pm
Opposing defenses have to pick their poison!
August 9th, 2017 at 5:17 pm
I think Dirk’s playcalling is fine. Some fans like to cry about 2 runs for 4 yards but Jamies(when he’s good) is an absolute surgeon in 3rd and managable.
Just get the man 4 yards or better.
August 9th, 2017 at 5:40 pm
I think DK brought up Rodgers AND Brady to point out that different QB’s get things done with different skill sets. Brady is a freaking statue!!! They have to resort to dink and dunk and unload the ball quickly because Brady simply does not have that talent to extend plays with his legs…that’s OK he’s still a gifted QB.
Aaron Rodgers CAN extend and DOES frequently extend plays with his legs and like #3 can throw well on the run.
DK wants #3 with Rodgers judgement. I agee with Rod that to this point #3 looks far more like Favre than Rodgers…but BOTH of these QB’s have SB’s and one is in the HOF and the other will be.
Here’s why I believe #3 will make major progress in this area. #3 is just too competitive to give up on a play. But unlike his first two years he shouldn’t have to give up on plays because he will have targets that can actually get a little separation. ME13 will finally get single instead of a total diet of double coverage. If they double ME13…DJAX will burn them…or OJ or Brate will burn them or Hump will be open.
It’s one thing to tell the QB to get rid of the ball quickly and hit the open man when there is NO open man…it’s another when you feel pretty sure at least ONE of those guys WILL be open…it’s just up to #3 to continue to improve on reading D’s so he can know quickly…which guy is most likely to be open.
I know I”m a prejudiced homer but I believe #3 has gotten a bit of a bad rap.
Again where was he going to go with the ball? His star RB was horrid…the OL came apart with a gimpy Center and no RT…his star WR was virtually always double covered…and yet the dude somehow managed to cobble together back to back 4,000 yard seasons…the first NFL QB to EVER do that.
Man this is a TOUGH CROWD. lol
August 9th, 2017 at 6:20 pm
StPete…………Hate to rain on your parade(actually I like it) but I don’t think it’ll be as easy as your saying. First and foremost the offensive line has to play better for DeSean Jackson to make the impact we all dream about. Otherwise you just have a guy running 30 yards down field and a QB who can’t step into the throw to get the completion.
I’m not sure about Brate burning anybody and I’m surely not counting my chickens with OJ after watching the only film I have on him on hard knocks when he was eaten alive by Joe Dirt the walk on LB(my new fav Buc).
We are also going to have to run the ball effectivly or our passing game will struggle, especially against good defense…….playoff teams.
Just don’t think it’s as easy as signing some big play receivers and having a good QB. If it was Green Bay would have more titles and less one and dones.
August 9th, 2017 at 7:35 pm
JimmyJack
No problem…every parade gets rain at one time or another.
I liked the play made by Joe Dirt but he clearly had a handful of OJ’s jersey…got away with a hold…perhaps would in a game. But I’m not worried about OJ.
Brate led all the TE’s in the league in TD receptions so I’m not worried about him.
I do share your concern about the OL. If they materialize we could be awesome…I do not believe they can be as bad as last year….But then again…..
August 9th, 2017 at 7:46 pm
JimmyJack – Dirk was great in 2015, he really mixed it up well and wasn’t predictable. In 2016 Dirk was extremely predictable and ultra conservative. I truly wonder if it was because he was overwhelmed by becoming head coach, or if it was moving from the booth to the sideline and him not seeing the field as well. He was solely focused on offense in 2015 and was there to work day in-day out with Winston. In 2016 he had a completely different role – and to me it showed. When I can sit at home and properly guess not only run/pass, but what part of the field you’re looking to, and be able to do that successfully about 90% of the time on first down for the first 3 quarters of a game, there is a problem. Last year Dirk would run it up the middle on almost every first down for the first half and then later hardly ever play action passed – if you’re going to spend the entire first half setting up something, then go to shotgun on 1st down when you’re going to throw – wow. That didn’t happen in 2015, it happened almost the entire year in 2016. There’s a reason Dirk considered getting someone to call plays after the season ended, I just hope he was self aware enough to actually make some changes this offseason.
August 9th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
Yeah Rod I can hear ya with that. I’d like to see more play action myself and I kinda thought our offensive line didn’t provide enough pocket time last year. You really got to have suffient blocking up front or the play action becomes very risky. Or maybe you could argue Dirk needs to quit calling plays with fear and open things up. Either way I think if the Oline gives the QB an extra half a second consistently we will see more play action.
I’d also like to point out that while the gut runs do open up bigger plays down field they also open up the off-tackle running game which are very successful plays for us. Also, when Doug and Quiz are running they are both good at lowering their shoulder pads and bruising the opposing defense. Might not be flashy but it does impact the game positively even if it doesn’t directly show on the scoreboard.
August 9th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
Yeah ST Pete. I wish more fans could disagree like this without resorting to petty name-calling(guilty as charged).
About Brate I’m not worried about him I just don’t think he will be burning anybody down field too much. Good news is we don’t need him too.
And yes OJ was held on that play and he better get used to it. Defenders in the league make a living off of holding without letting it be seen as blatant. If he gets off to a hot start I can betcha New England will take him out of the game or get penalized trying.
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:46 am
In his whole NFL career, Koetter’s teams are well below .500 (74-86). The problem isn’t him forgetting how to call plays, it’s not knowing how to do it in the first place.