Buccaneers-Jaguars, Open Thread

August 17th, 2017

Fire up the in-game chatter in the comments section all throughout the pregame show and to the final whistle tonight in Jacksonville.

Please keep it respectful, but don’t hesitate to mix it up. Joe is live on the scene and come back all through the night.

There’s so much to keep an eye on, even in the second half when future gym teachers, grad students, and mattress movers take the field against the talent-rich Jaguars.

Go Bucs!

472 Responses to “Buccaneers-Jaguars, Open Thread”

  1. Easy Denman Says:

    D-Line needs to get to that can Bortles early.

  2. Zwak Says:

    Hope Coach Koetter calls out Tom Jones after the game!

  3. Curry-Winston Says:

    Lets Goooo!!!!!

  4. Curry-Winston Says:

    Cant wait for the so called buc fans to get on here and complain how we arent showing out full mixed packages of plays or how Koetter isnt using Godwin or OJ enough in our second game of preseason….

  5. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    U’m hoping the Bucs cram a win down their throats after all the disrespect the Jags showed in practice.

  6. Stephen Says:

    Just heard americas quarterback is gonna get a full half of football to work with his new weapons!!!!!!

  7. Joe Says:

    The Stampeder is not playing tonight.

  8. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Is Brent Grimes playing? He’s on the depth chart?

  9. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Bonzai? Where you been? Grimes will miss the preseason while the laceration on his leg heals.

  10. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    Hey Hey Hey We’re The Buccaneers!!!!!🎶🎶

  11. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Blake_bucsfan, that’s what I thought, but yet he is on the depth chart for the game.

  12. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I was expecting to see (shudder) Ryan Smith as the starter.

  13. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Hoping Roberto has a solid game tonight

  14. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Yeah, Ryan Smith is turning out to be a disappointing pick. I don’t see him becoming much better in coverage.

    He is good on ST though, I wonder if that will be enough for him to make the roster.

  15. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Give him some time. He is basically a rookie cb this year.

  16. K2 Says:

    Feel the pewter….how is Berto going to kick from Chicago?

  17. chris Says:

    Joe Dirts a baller Joe. He is a football player, if not here than somewhere.

  18. feelthepewterpower Says:

    K2 Says:
    August 17th, 2017 at 7:42 pm
    Feel the pewter….how is Berto going to kick from Chicago?


    I was kidding.

  19. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    God I really REALLY hate our garbage jerseys. If the front office reads this site I pray they go back to our GREAT 2000s jerseys.

  20. JAB83 Says:

    Should I make my post now so maybe they will get through moderation before the end of the game? LMAO

    No I will keep my word. Im not even gonna try.

    This thread is for all you cool people.

  21. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    /signed Mike

  22. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I have not bought Bucs merchandise since they switched to the new jerseys.

    I understand they cannot go back because Rebok made the old uniforms. But they could at least bring back a more pewter and red theme. (instead of chacoal, red, white and orange)

  23. Joe Says:

    I understand they cannot go back because Rebok made the old uniforms.

    Has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The designs are owned by the respective NFL teams. Notice the Steelers, Colts, Giants, Packers, Bears, etc didn’t change their uniforms when the NFL flipped to Nike.

  24. BurgDweller Says:

    Would love to see a Winston deep throw to D. Jackson for a TD tonight!

  25. Rod Munch Says:

    Thank God we don’t have to hear Chris Meyers tonight.

  26. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Joe Says
    “Has nothing to do with the manufacturer.”

    I thought they changed because Rebok held some right to the design?

    If you are right, I say bring them back!

  27. MadMax Says:

    On espn…YES!!!!!!!!!!!

    no bootleg internet watching on my laptop!!!!!

  28. Easy Denman Says:

    Game time Stick Carriers!!

  29. Dave Says:

    I want to see the bell spread around and finishing in the end zone.
    On defense I want to see PRESSURE and sacks

    As for actual players, I am not worried about starters. I want to see how various running back’s and defense of backs look

  30. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I’m not worried about overall team results tonight. I want to come out healthy and see certain individuals or units do well.

    I hope Ryan Smith does better than he has looked in practice, because there is no way the Jags don’t pick on him tonight.

    I want to see Kwon have a huge game, just so Hard Knocks will actually feature him…plus its MNF, so a national audience.

    I would like to see the starting offense get a TD, but it isn’t a must.

    I would like to see us use the fullbacks to good effect, just so we can see how they do.

    And finally, Folk better not have any misses, because if he does it will light this board up and crash the server.

  31. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – The Bucs just changed designs to freshen things up. I’ve given the new uniforms over 2 years now and still hate them – I think it mainly has to do with that awful font they choose. I still love the old original Bucs uniforms – they looked awesome and they actually had something to do with the area unlike pewter and red, unless you associate red with red tide which isn’t really a good thing. But things could certainly be worse, the Bucs could have that awful Jags helmet where they can’t figure out how to do a proper gradient.

  32. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I want Baker to show he is not all talk.

  33. Rod Munch Says:

    I fully expect a very sloppy game – that is almost what always happens when we play the Jags, and to do so on a Thursday, I expect it to be even worse than normal. I won’t get too high or too low tonight, I have feeling this will be a complete waste of a game. Lets see what happens.

  34. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Rod Munch, red has to do with pirates I think. And the pewter was used to avoid black.

    But I like the originals too.

  35. Rod Munch Says:

    Chris Baker has like an 84 rating on Madden 18 – the Bucs have probably the best tackle combo in Madden. Meanwhile they give Donovan Smith like a 76 rating which means they’re trying to get Winston killed. Haters.

  36. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Yeah, I forgot how bad we usually are on Thursday nights. Lol
    Let’s change that tonight

  37. Easy Denman Says:

    Noah Spence got wrecked by Yeldon

  38. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – I happened to go the 1997 new uniform/logo design and I can tell you they were an instant huge hit, people loved them, but they didn’t explain the colors, not that I remember.

  39. SoCoBucsFan Says:

    I’m curious to see how Beckwith does on Defense since he should be getting a good chunk of snaps

  40. unbelievable Says:

    Nice stop by 93 with the finish by ayers.

    Can’t believe he didn’t get the sack on the next play either.

  41. Rod Munch Says:

    Gruden likes Ryan Smith – take that people who say Gruden says he loves everyone!

  42. Rrsrq Says:

    Great coverage Ryan Smith

  43. roger borras Says:

    now that was good first string defense. way to go boys.

  44. unbelievable Says:

    Loved the red uniforms instantly. Still hate the new ones.

  45. Easy Denman Says:

    Let’s go deep to D-Jax on the first play

  46. unbelievable Says:

    Solid protection there.

  47. Rod Munch Says:

    Nice run by Martin!

  48. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Beautiful cut by Doug just now

  49. unbelievable Says:

    Big strong run from Martin. Good thing he changed directions.

  50. roger borras Says:

    doug is good when he needs to prove it. redo his contract to make him prove it again and keep him.

  51. Easy Denman Says:

    Dougie looking good so far

  52. unbelievable Says:

    Was hoping to see a deep shot on that play action. Can’t tell if our receivers were all covered though.

  53. unbelievable Says:

    I Like that we’re moving the chains steadily though.

  54. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    SOOO sick. Love the end around to Djax!

  55. Easy Denman Says:

    Damn that was scary!

  56. Easy Denman Says:

    Holy HELL Sims up the gut!

  57. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    bad drop… dont think that would have gone far anyway.

  58. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    First catch for O.J. Nice run after as well.

  59. JabooBuc Says:

    Too easy! Looking good…

  60. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


  61. BurgDweller Says:

    TD!!! This offense is looking very tight!

  62. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Excellent drive. So many weapons man.

  63. MadMax Says:

    OJ!!! Nice first Grab Brother!!!!!


    poetry in motion!

  65. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


  66. unbelievable Says:

    Martin running smart.

  67. MadMax Says:

    OMG we’re cursed with kicking!

  68. JabooBuc Says:

    oh boy…

  69. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    It was tipped, but how ironic! lol

  70. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:


  71. unbelievable Says:

    Here we go again lololol

  72. Dicko14 Says:

    Are you f*cking kidding me Folk!?

  73. SoCoBucsFan Says:

    Who you gonna defend??? OJ getting it done!

  74. Easy Denman Says:

    If this keeps up we are gonna be a scary offense. Jaboo couldn’t be an MVP candidate

  75. Fire Goodell Says:

    Roberto Aguayo: “Anyone miss me yet?”



  77. Rod Munch Says:

    Great drive! Martin looked great. Winston looked poised. The ball was spread around. Really really good drive – but against a Jags team playing a bunch of 2nd stringers. But…

    …and we don’t get the extra point.

    More drama for Hard Knocks!!!

  78. roger borras Says:

    cant blame folk guys. thats on the line

  79. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Zach Hocker, come on down!

  80. zwh99 Says:

    Lol of course the kick gets tipped!

  81. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Not gonna be mad at folk for a blocked kick.
    But it definitely fells like something is funny with our kicking. Lol

  82. Eric Says:

    Hell of a drive. I know it’s preseason but they look ready.

  83. unbelievable Says:

    @Rod it’s only their corners not playing… who, interestingly enough, we haven’t even targeted yet.

  84. Pete Mitchell Says:

    It is f@cking impossible to speak softly while watching this team!!!


    Go BUCS!!!!

  85. Rod Munch Says:

    The blocked extra point isn’t a big deal – but didn’t everyone know that was going to not go in before it was snapped?

  86. T in Orlando Says:

    Great first drive, Jameis had time against the vaunted Jags D-line and distributed the ball well. Martin/Sims running well (although not great).

    I know Folk’s XP was blocked, but I don’t think that he’ll end up dwelling on it.

  87. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    unbelievable, Ryan Smith was targeted. He covered well.

  88. MadMax Says:

    GJ Beckwith!!!!!!

  89. Pa Privateer Says:

    beckwith!!!! and then david!!! great job

  90. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Smith almost had a pick 6

  91. Pa Privateer Says:

    Ryan Smith almost had that!!!!

  92. Rod Munch Says:

    Good for Ryan Smith – I hope he figures it out and does so quickly. He looked lost last week.

  93. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Second time Ryan Smith ended a Jags drive

  94. roger borras Says:

    north south man, run north south

  95. unbelievable Says:

    @Bonzai no we were talking about the jags… I meant they had only had 2nd stringers in at corner. I realize we have one as well.

  96. PistolPete Says:

    3rd solid drive against 2 first team defenses.

  97. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Reedy had SIMSitis on the punt return.


    GetEm Boys!!

  99. Easy Denman Says:

    Ryan Smith playing solid so far

  100. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Not gonna lie, I’m kinda shocked that Ryan Smith is actually looking decent in coverage.

  101. T in Orlando Says:

    Ugly return Reedy

  102. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Bennenoch in at RT
    Something to watch

  103. Rod Munch Says:

    Another nice run by Martin.

  104. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    All day to throw. Love it

  105. Rod Munch Says:

    Hey look at that, we run the ball then the playaction works.

  106. JAB83 Says:

    Im sorry I repent…. But the MUSCLE HAMSTER is BACK!!!! Thank You GRUUUUUUUDEN!!!!!


    Damn these cats look good!!!

  108. MadMax Says:

    Dougie looking good!!!!!!!

  109. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Nice run blocking here. Doug looks good

  110. Rod Munch Says:

    Man this is the 2015 calling plays – not that nonsense all last year. This is impressive. I wish we could play the Jags every week.

  111. SoCoBucsFan Says:

    That pass protection though!

  112. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    phew… Doug just got blown up but he is looking damn good out there tonight.


    held on to the ball!

  114. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    man doug lookin on another level…. barry church bringing the wood and JAMEIS…. WOW

  115. MadMax Says:

    Come on Jameis!!

  116. Bird Says:

    Marpet is bringing it all together. He is a mauler. Great to have best olineman back

  117. Rod Munch Says:

    OK I’ve seen enough of Jameis – lets get him out.

  118. Rrsrq Says:

    Looks like Hump will still get his touches

  119. unbelievable Says:

    Man if the ball is 2 ft further in front it’s prob a 1st down.

  120. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    One more drive

  121. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I agree, pull Jameis out.


    Yeah… No sense in getting him hurt!

  123. aj Says:

    Sweezy is raring to go too. Love how he got downfield on the DJax reverse.

  124. Easy Denman Says:

    I’ll tell you what I’m liking so far about Winston: he said not trying to force passes. The 2 passes Brate for a first step down then hump for almost a first downbeat show maturity

  125. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    But…alas….Jameis will play the entire half.

    Made the field goal!

  126. roger borras Says:

    nick folk is my hero!!!!

  127. SoCoBucsFan Says:

    Why not practice going for it on fourth. Close enough

  128. Rod Munch Says:

    Pull Winston, Evans and Jackson – let Martin play the entire first half but otherwise I think the starters made their point. Winston has looked sharp – but that’s what happens when you have time (not that Winston can’t make plays under pressure since according to ESPN had has the best season they’ve ever recorded using their QBR stat for under pressure plays).

  129. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:


  130. stpetebucsfan Says:

    This is the first time this OL has played together as a unit…and that may only be partially true unless Benenoch beats out Dot.

    As this OL grows in teamwork and a unit I suspect we might have the real deal.

  131. ARGH_M8E Says:


  132. ARGH_M8E Says:


  133. Oxycondoms Says:

    Looked like djax was sucking alot of wind after that reverse .

  134. bucnut2 Says:

    If JW hits AH in stride that a first down. Threw it behind him.

  135. Rod Munch Says:

    roger – Haha, I was watching that kick just last night by Bryant, what an all-time great call.

  136. unbelievable Says:

    Benenoch has looked pretty good so far. Of course it’s preseason but has pass rush is decent.

  137. Rrsrq Says:

    #weaponsforwinston accomplished

  138. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    On second thought, Rod…we need a bigger cushion for when Fitz throws his picks.

  139. Pa Privateer Says:

    Feels good to be able to watch the game and not jump up and down screaming and drinking an entire case of beer from frustration

  140. Broy34 Says:

    Good luck go the haters. Winston missed djax but stellar overall. O line sharp as can be. Howard made the most. Running backs looked really good. Defense extremely impressive. McCoy being a stud as usual

  141. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – Actually I want to see what Fitz could do with the first team in an emergency, but I don’t want Evans and Jackson in there, so conflicted.

  142. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Agree completely…I’ve seen enough…especially after losing Griffin last week.

  143. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Could Smith be the sort that just practices bad and does well in games?

  144. Pa Privateer Says:

    Meh, I will give R Smith some leeway there.

  145. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Bottles is dodo

  146. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Man…thanks heaven we didn’t draft Bortles!!!

  147. Pa Privateer Says:

    Was that Elliot on that coverage?

  148. Bird Says:

    Reedy is 5th receiver cause of returns

  149. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Pa Privateer, yes.

  150. Rod Munch Says:

    Wow, Allan Robinson with the easy drop. I won’t be drafting him in fantasy. Although in fairness AJ Green had one of the worst games I’ve ever seen a couple of years ago against the Bucs in the preseason and he had a great fantasy year.

  151. Easy Denman Says:

    Bortles is pure trash

  152. Geno Says:

    Sweezy and Marpet have been the best two offensive lineman. Could be a hidden key to the season.

  153. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    No quality depth with corners and hope elliot is not nickel that was HORRIBLE coverage

  154. Rod Munch Says:

    Broy34 – Actually watching the replay I’m not sure Winston “missed” Djax, it looked to me that Jackson was clean off the line but did a juke even though he looked clean – it looked to me like Winston was throwing to where Djax would be without the double move. That’s just a getting to know each other play – or at least that’s what I think from watching the replay. Could be wrong.

  155. Rod Munch Says:

    I hate Bortles but if a receiver can get his hands on the ball he has to make the catch – that’s on Robinson.

  156. Pa Privateer Says:

    I honestly don’t think Rodgers, Martin or Sims need to play

  157. unbelievable Says:

    I think this will be the last drive that Winston plays.

  158. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Rod i mean thats what you want pitch and catch like spurrier says because elliot was lost and conte was late

  159. Rod Munch Says:

    Nice catch by D-Jax!

  160. Pa Privateer Says:

    That was a beautiful, 3rd down play…..soooo beautiful

  161. bucnut2 Says:

    GREAT throw by JW

  162. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Ohhhhhh! That was such a good throw too.

  163. Pa Privateer Says:

    DANGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON EVANS

  164. Mike Evans GOAT Says:


  165. unbelievable Says:

    Gotta make that catch!

  166. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    MIKEY! You have GOT to catch that…

  167. Rod Munch Says:

    Bad drop by Evans…


    oh Mike

  169. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    JVILLE must have their safeties bailing sooo deep and being scared of djax and evans…. but holy JAMEIS…. WOW

  170. unbelievable Says:

    Evans holding his hands / wrist….

  171. Pa Privateer Says:

    This Offense has so much movement after the ball is snapped. I am loving it.

  172. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Evans came up lame. May be hurt. Was holding his thigh

  173. Rod Munch Says:

    Good job by Winston to go right back to Evans.

    This playcalling tonight is great by Dirk – was last week too – this is the Dirk from 2015 when we had the 5th best offense in the NFL.

  174. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    keep running evans its TD

  175. bucnut2 Says:

    Evans hurt??

  176. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I think we have to keep Martin at this point. He’s the only good runner.

  177. Pa Privateer Says:

    HOWARD WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  178. canadabucsfan Says:

    omg evans is limping….

  179. Rod Munch Says:

    Man stop showing that Talib INT – that was just a great great play by Talib – he looked beat on the play and made an amazing recovery.

    Too bad Talib wasn’t a Schiano man.

  180. bucnut2 Says:


  181. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Mike appears to be fine. THANK THE LORD!

  182. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    This is too easy. Take mike and JW out now

  183. Bird Says:

    Think Evans dinged up. But back in game Whew.

  184. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Evans done for night? Why risk injury?

  185. Rod Munch Says:

    That might have been a little less than a 50/50 shot Gruden…

  186. stpetebucsfan Says:

    This better be #3’s last series. Give him a chance to score here and then..Turn out the lights the party’s over.

  187. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I think ESPN is ahead or MOR32. You guys seem to be seeing things before me.

  188. SoCoBucsFan Says:

    Howard and Godwin are great run blockers!

  189. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


  190. Blake_bucsfan Says:


  191. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Should have been a face mask.

  192. unbelievable Says:

    Cmon jaboo u can’t do that nonsense. Take the sack.

  193. stpetebucsfan Says:

    OK…I’ve seen enough! Almost gets hurt but at least learned a lesson…hopefully!

  194. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Down by contact, lol.

  195. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh no Winston – don’t do it buddy. I hate the turnover talk, you got to let Winston make plays – but man, that’s not a good play, just take the sack.

    But hey that’s why we play preseason ball.

  196. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Elbow touched the ground before he threw.

  197. BurgDweller Says:

    Dang, Winston had to go and do something stupid like that. He has been playing great otherwise.

  198. bucnut2 Says:

    This is why JW is NOT elite!

  199. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Forward progress

  200. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh see Winston knew the play was dead – no big deal, Winston has amazing field awareness.

    Hahaha…. Jacksonville…


    mor is ahead

  202. Pa Privateer Says:

    Hey another field goal was made…..I won’t need to chug my beer

  203. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Ur an idiot

  204. unbelievable Says:

    Can’t wait to hear the exchange between Dirk and Jameis after that play on Hard Knocks next week!

  205. stpetebucsfan Says:

    LOL #3 getting a scolding from papa K. Yeah I know dad I really messed up!!!

    I can live with that mess up and the lesson. But watching two linemen bending his knee back…take him the freak out of the game!!!

  206. Dave Says:

    They have looked great!!!
    Then JW screamed “I’m only 23 and will do stupid things sometimes!”
    Knock that shiiiite off JAMEIS!

  207. Rod Munch Says:

    bucnut2 – No one has said Winston is elite yet you tard. Now go eat a bowl of HIV.

    God bless.

  208. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Jags fans can complain all they want. He really was down. His elbow touched the ground just before he released the ball.

  209. Jameis Win55 Says:

    Jameis has to stop making plays like that for us to be able to win at a playoff level

  210. bucnut2 Says:

    MEG- please go watch the NFL teams. Elite QB’s don’t do what JW does. He plays great for a while and then makes stupid decisions.

  211. vince picolo Says:

    better now than during the regular season. good lesson, really.

  212. Rod Munch Says:

    So just for the record while the Bucs always get screwed by the refs, apparently if we play the Jags we get all the calls. So if we meet them in the Super Bowl we’re in for an easy W!

  213. bucnut2 Says:

    Rod- Most on this site think JW is ELITE. he’s not there yet.

  214. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    bucnut2 Says
    “MEG- please go watch the NFL teams. Elite QB’s don’t do what JW does. He plays great for a while and then makes stupid decisions.”

    No one has said he is elite. He’s striving to become elite.

    And funny how you did not post until he made a mistake. #FakeFan

  215. LocalJoker Says:

    Franchise, no franchise, that’s the stupid QB play that is going to lose us games. Jameis, you know better!

  216. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    bucnut2, NO ONE says he is elite. Quit making things up.

  217. bucnut2 Says:

    BB- we will lose games we should not lose if JW continues to do stupid things.

  218. Rod Munch Says:

    bucnut2 – I haven’t seen anyone say he’s elite yet, as in literally no one. If they did I’d call them a moron as well. He’s going to be elite, but he isn’t there yet.

  219. bucnut2 Says:

    WE have 0 pas rush

  220. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Wow. What a push off by Robinson there

  221. bucnut2 Says:

    Nice Blitz

  222. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    LVD showcasing break neck speed.

  223. Rod Munch Says:

    YES – Mike Smith finally sending David on the blitz! Use David like how Ronde used to get used – you never know where he is or what he’s going to do and he’ll get those shock sacks all day long.

  224. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


    Well, duh. The Packers will lose games if Rogers does stupid things too. Or the Seahawks if Wilson does.

    23 years old, still maturing. He’ll be fine.

    For what it is worth, Brett Favre made a lot more stupid mistakes…and he was considered elite.

  225. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Wow, Jaguar just told the ref F#ck you to his face and no call?

  226. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Reedy has looked pretty decent fielding the punts. Please no #3. We know we could win this game if it was real. I see no purpose in continuing to risk our franchise.

  227. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I remember Andy Reed wanting to bench Favre multiple times when he first started, because he seemed to never stop the dumb stuff.

    Gunslingers are like that.

  228. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    I watched the replay of that really dumb Jameis play a few times, and I’d be willing to bet money that he thought he was being fouled and assumed he had a free play.

    Still looks really bad though.

  229. zwh99 Says:

    Good thing its the preseason.

  230. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – Exactly, Favre made TONS of bad plays, that’s what gunslingers do, they make really good plays too. You can’t take that away from players like Winston – he’s going to turn the ball over, Peyton Manning turned the ball over a ton early on – it’s part of learning how to play in the NFL and Winston is ahead of the curve, so so far so good.

  231. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Brett Favres first pass was a pick 6
    Brett favres first pass completion was to himself

  232. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Mike Evans GOAT, refs are smart…they wait to screw them over during the game.

  233. Rod Munch Says:

    Mike Evans – In fairness the Jags have had almost every call, legit or not, go against them. As Bucs fans we know that feeling. It’s preseason so I really don’t care. In the regular season I’d want the refs hung for not calling that there.

  234. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Can’t believe that Jameis is still in the game..

  235. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Why don’t you stop trolling us loser!!! Your remarks are moronic not borne by facts. I don’t know which game you are watching but Chucky is talking about how the Jags can’t run it…and Bortles can’t throw it and they’re not protecting him.

    Do you come here to simply be an assss or because you wish to show us all how totally uniformed you are?

  236. bucnut2 Says:

    BB- quit making excuses for stupid plays by JW. he’s young but as DK said on Hard Knockshe is he ONE guy who can lose games for us. HE need sot be smart!

  237. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Flucking twinkle toes

  238. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    There’s my Sims

  239. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Blake_bucsfan Says
    “Can’t believe that Jameis is still in the game..”

    Koetter said a full half for the starters.

  240. bucnut2 Says:

    Another REALLY bad decision by JW!

  241. Rod Munch Says:

    Had to get work for the punting unit at some point.

  242. bucnut2 Says:

    Look he has talent, but needs to reign it in! JW needs to make better decisions.

  243. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    bucnut2 Says
    “BB- quit making excuses for stupid plays by JW.”

    I’m not making excuses. And I agree he needs to improve in that area. But you also have to understand the gunslinger mentality. They think differently. Koetter himself said this week he wants Jameis to get better in that area…but he doesn’t want him to stop taking chances because that’s what makes Jameis great.

  244. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    Nice flop by Godwin

  245. Rod Munch Says:

    See told you the punt team needs work.

    From watching Hard Knocks I think our special teams coach is a moron – that construction speech he gave put me to sleep. I really wonder if Roberto got himself cut so he didn’t have to listen more of those speeches.

  246. unbelievable Says:

    Can’t believe homeboy dropped that… vh3 was beat.

  247. bucnut2 Says:

    St Pete- I am not trolling anyone, just injecting some truth into this dialogue. i LOVE the Bucs and am a JW fan but will not overlook bad play

  248. Rod Munch Says:

    bucnut2 – Everyone is saying Winston has to improve his play still and make better decisions – you’re literally saying the same thing everyone else says and pretending like an original thought. Be less boring.

  249. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Love that vampire commercial lol

  250. Rod Munch Says:

    Is that really a commercial for Indycar racing? I didn’t even know that was still a thing.

  251. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Great coverage!

  252. unbelievable Says:

    Bucnut we ALL know you’re not a JW fan, and only comment when he makes a bad play, aka a troll. Back under your bridge b!tch

  253. bucnut2 Says:

    Rod- so you think I am stating the obvious? IF so why is everyone killing me?

  254. Rod Munch Says:

    There’s the Conte we know, cleanly beat on the play.

  255. bucnut2 Says:

    I Like JW, but agree with our head coach that JW is the ONLY one who can lose us games.

  256. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    bucs back end is very weak, vh3 abused by robinson and conte late again

  257. unbelievable Says:

    Conte has been making some plays tonight.

  258. Pa Privateer Says:

    Need to see more of a pass rush please………….

  259. Rod Munch Says:

    bucnut2 – You’re like the press, you make up fake news then report on that fake news as if it’s true. Thus your “everyone is saying Jameis is elite” when literally no one is saying Jameis is elite. If you bothered to actually read the responses you’d see what people are calling you out on it’s on your fake news premise.


    Conti got an arm in.

  261. Pa Privateer Says:

    lets go 2 minute offense!!!!!!!!!!!!! gimme a touchy

  262. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    “…why is everyone killing me?”

    Because you claimed a lot of people here say Jameis is elite. And no one does. I mean, yes, he has plenty of fans…and some call him the savior (not me), but no one calls him elite yet.

  263. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    conte was late on 2 plays that are normally tds but robinson dropped both

  264. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I believe Jameis will become elite, but he has some growing to do first.

  265. Curry-Winston Says:

    Jaboo did look elite except for 2 dumb plays…other than that…whew thank god for preseason…..Lets Goooo

  266. Bird Says:

    Man. Hargreaves better not talk so much junk yet. He is getting abused on back to back to back plays

  267. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Jameis playing towards that elite level tonite he keeps growing and getting better and with 4 big time weapons he can keep improving

  268. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Bird right on

  269. Curry-Winston Says:

    jaboo 2 min game is sick….lets goo

  270. Mike Evans GOAT Says:


  271. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    That was excellent awareness by Humphries.

    Holy Roller rule??????

  272. Rod Munch Says:

    Lets see a long FG.

  273. Pa Privateer Says:

    Godwin….Nice smart play after the catch. catch and secure the ball.

  274. Rod Munch Says:

    It’s a 58 yard FG, kick it.

  275. unbelievable Says:

    That was a terrible holding call. He just fell.

    Nice tough catch by Godwin!

  276. Rod Munch Says:

    Overall great first half – sloppy ending but so what.

  277. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Mixed bag from the 1st string. Some really excellent stuff, as well as some brutally ugly plays.

  278. unbelievable Says:

    More good than bad, for sure.

  279. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    The defense looked really good.

  280. bucnut2 Says:

    BB- i offer the rolling evidence that most on this site think JW is elite. See Curry Winston comments below
    Jaboo did look elite except for 2 dumb plays…other than that…whew thank god for preseason…..Lets Goooo

  281. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    Sign leveon bell and go heavy defense (secondary and dline) in fa and draft next year.

  282. bucnut2 Says:

    Good night guys. keep dreaming and don’t wake up. Best to you all. Bucnut

  283. Rod Munch Says:

    bucnut2 – Learn what words mean, like the word “except”. You see dope in context that means he’s saying he looked elite EXCEPT for when he didn’t – thus he’s NOT elite.

    Anywho say it with me, “I like turtles”.

  284. Cannonfodder Says:

    Wow, 240 yards and 12 pts. I love jameis but his vision between the 20s is amazing, inside the red zone, not so much…. he is only 23, so I’m not being negative, just honest. I’m fkn thrilled he said our QB. Let’s go Bucs!

  285. unbelievable Says:

    Bye Felicia!


    Blame the Raiders for the Holy Roller rule I believe

  287. Easy Denman Says:

    Why was Dotson out of the game so early? Those backup RTs almost got Winston killed.

  288. Rod Munch Says:

    Can we trade for Aaron Donald? We’ll give them Chris Baker, who has an 84 rating on Madden AND throw in Evan Smith and George Johnson.

  289. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Doug’s 1st half stats. 5 carries for 30 yards and 1 TD. 6.0 yards per carry, suck on that Joe(s).

  290. Rod Munch Says:

    Ryan Moss doesn’t know Derrick Koetter first name.

    Moss – just think Boogie Nights… Marky Mark played the role of Dirk Diggler. That’s the best way to remember.

  291. Rojas Says:

    Did Benenoch play well with the starters ?

  292. tmaxcon Says:


    it should help Licht get a 6 or 7 round pick for the unreliable gerbil. 3 good carries in a preseason game does not offset 3 HORRENDOUS SEASONS….

  293. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    Lol rod using madden ratings totally kills any arguments crediblity

  294. Pa Privateer Says:

    I want to see Auclair, McNichols, bullough, and a WR make some highlights tape

  295. Curry-Winston Says:

    bucnut…we love u man, nite nite

  296. tmaxcon Says:

    blake don’t get too excited about the defense vh3 was burnt 3 times and committed 2 more penalties jags are that bad bucs are not playing that well yet. i am not worried but let’s not kid ourselves there were about 6 plays were vh3 was abused

  297. Rod Munch Says:

    Dirks – Yeah, that was the point, it was a joke.

  298. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    Tmax the fact that you can’t see that doug is the best rb is mind boggling

  299. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    Thought I recognized that name:

    “Bucnut2 Says:
    February 7th, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    Lurker nice try. He’ll be under increased pressure in the nfl and his accuracy and int will increase. Bs don’t perform better in the nfl, they perform worse than college. We’ve alrea seen the best of Winston. Trade down!”

  300. Rod Munch Says:

    Nice run by Barber.

  301. Curry-Winston Says:

    Guys…I kno its preseason but u gotta b jacked for the Bucs this year, we woulda beat tha crap out bengals and jags for sure..easily

  302. Rod Munch Says:

    Another nice run by Barber…

  303. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Koetter afraid of letting Fitz throw?

  304. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Man Peyton Barber is running hard.

  305. Pa Privateer Says:

    Godwin is making some nice blocks
    ‘ and Auclair is in the game

  306. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    Rod. Gotcha my b. Since we never play more than two seasons on madden then we should trade our first round picks from 2019/20

  307. Rod Munch Says:

    Dunn – BucNut total exposed for being a j/o rooting for Winston to fail. What a piece of trash.

  308. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Lol foweler looks like a b!tch

  309. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Wow, our backup is so good they’ve only passed it once.

  310. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    lol…and that is why.

  311. Rod Munch Says:

    Who called the Fitz INT before the game?

    You called it right.


    Fitz to the rescue

  313. Oxycondoms Says:

    Doesn’t even look like Fitzpatrick cares

  314. BuccoDav Says:

    You are talking about the same guy who can’t see that GMC is our best dlineman.

  315. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    If Griffin were healthy, Fitz would not make this team. Put in Sefo Liufau.

  316. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    @Rod Munch

    That was me.

  317. Rod Munch Says:

    Happy birthday Gruden – you don’t look a day over 70.

  318. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – Welp congrats, that was a terrible play by Fitz.

  319. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    Ahhh bucco. Valid point. The smurfs must have been green on his childhood tv as well

  320. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:


    And that’s not to say there isn’t lots of people who maybe didn’t support him predraft, but he’s won them over.

    But, there’s also those who won’t dog him because they know they will get checked. So, it’s those veiled compliments, that include “but”s and “except”s, etc. If you remember who they were, and see how the talk about him, it’s obvious. At least he had the balls to not change his name. That’s what 90% did.

  321. Rod Munch Says:

    Dirks – Actually Aaron Donald is so good he’d be worth trading two 1sts for – he is the closest thing to Warren Sapp that has been in the NFL since Sapp was here.

  322. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Beckwith looks like a boss out there

  323. Bird Says:

    Yah. I was cool with futz pick up at first.

    Man was I wrong. He is absolutely a waste of time

  324. Bird Says:


  325. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I also said the Jags would keep their starters in longer than the Bucs. They do that every time they play in preseason.

  326. Pa Privateer Says:

    too much cushion R Smith

    and holy crap is that a big boy!!! Is that Stevie T? That man is huge!!!!



  328. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Tmax VH3 just isnt showing that shut down corner his draft status should make him and he is average at best and robinson destroyed him tonight

  329. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Love and Warrick Dunn Says:
    “And that’s not to say there isn’t lots of people who maybe didn’t support him predraft, but he’s won them over.”

    I’m in that group.

    His off field behavior and leadership has been great. And his on-field results speak for themselves.

  330. Rod Munch Says:

    Yikes, was that another missed tackle by Evans?

  331. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh no that wasn’t Evans – it was Elliott.

  332. Pa Privateer Says:

    Siliga is HUGE….massive man in that middle

  333. Gencoimports Says:

    Dotson pulled a groin, and will be out almost as long as it will take for this comment to be moderated.

  334. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    @Dusthty Rhothdes

    I think no player ever has a perfect game. VH3 had maybe 4-5 bad plays…out of what? 40?

  335. Pa Privateer Says:

    Nice coverage R Smith. There is something to work with…..

  336. Rod Munch Says:

    Get those Glanton jerseys up for sale!

  337. Pa Privateer Says:

    OOOOOOHHHHHHHH GLANTON wants that weakside job

  338. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:


    If you weren’t someone who called him closely both on and off the field, as I had, I truly get the reluctance. Just glad Licht and Lovie..and the Glazers felt ok to pull the trigger.


    Glanton AGAIN!!!

  340. roger borras Says:

    jags starters against our 2nd and 3rd string makes it look like a game. they still have to punt, but still.

  341. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    Nice sack!!

  342. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I’ll tell you…Ryan Smith should get the game ball.

    Considering how badly his practices were, Mike Smith must have gotten through to him, because he is showing vast improvement.


    Glanton again!!!!!!

  344. Pa Privateer Says:


    He is definitely looking better. Some mistakes, but he reminds me of a Rookie, which technically he is as an NFL corner.

  345. Rod Munch Says:

    Bonzai – I was back on forth on Winston until I read an article by the National Review which just totally destroyed the trash that claimed Winston assaulted her. The National Review is a conservative magazine, you can’t say they have a bias towards young black men over white women.

    Give it a read and send it to anyone still repeating the assault nonsense.


  346. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Feeling pretty good for the second pre season game.

    Special teams still a bit shaky.

    And I only cursed the the screen twice. Who is number 35…totally blew coverage in the first half and then on 3rd and 13 they throw underneath and Elliott can’t even make the tackle…can’t even hold up the player till help arrives.

    Ohhh the vaunted Javien Elliott…He may have played his way off this roster tonight!

  347. Rod Munch Says:

    Wow that was a fast 3rd quarter.

  348. Pa Privateer Says:

    Barber looks pretty solid so far. Nothing flashy, just running North to South and getting yards

  349. USFBUC Says:

    Like that we are 100% on FG. The uniforms can only be changed every five years I believe so we are stuck until the league says we can change them

  350. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Peyton Barber is having a good night. He can run it…if he masters the passing game he might be a good NFL back.

  351. Captain Big Stick Says:

    our twos just stopped their ones lol

  352. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    St Pete,

    35 is Javien Elliott

  353. Q Says:

    JOE ….i thought in the NFL 2 players can’t wear the same number …charles Sims #34 And marquee huff #34 …can you explain this?

  354. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Could we keep 5 RBs?

    I don’t envy Licht and Koetter making those decisions. Five are worth keeping.

  355. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Wow thank heavens our 2’s and 3’s are looking much better tonight than against the Bengals. Of course the Jags do not have the same talent level as the Bengals.

  356. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    This is the 5th year of the garbage uniform. So maybe if we make enough noise they will change them next year

  357. roger borras Says:

    Q Says:
    August 17th, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    JOE ….i thought in the NFL 2 players can’t wear the same number …charles Sims #34 And marquee huff #34 …can you explain this?

    theres 90 players in pre season so they allow it for pre season only. ive seen it before

  358. BuccoDav Says:

    That is a damn shame! how many more years with this crap?

  359. tmaxcon Says:

    Dirks Great Granpappy Says:
    August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
    Tmax the fact that you can’t see that doug is the best rb is mind boggling

    he is also the most UNRELIABLE of the group with the exception of Simms… he has been bad more than good last time i checked 3 bad is more than 2 good. He can not be trusted nor can he be counted on. he has proven that by his choices throughout his career. i don’t care about drugs party your ass off but carry your own weight and don’t let your boys down.

  360. JameisDungy Says:

    Once again we’re so dependent on Doug at RB…

    Just not sure about these other guys.

  361. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


  362. roger borras Says:

    omg really folk

  363. unbelievable Says:

    So do we really have a kicker yet? I’m not so sure.

  364. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Its the curse of Brindza and Barth.

  365. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Looking forward to two minutes of Folk in Licht’s office on Tuesdays HK.

  366. WeAreLost Says:

    Come on

  367. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    We need a kicker. Lol

  368. Jerry Says:

    We still need to find a kicker.

  369. JameisDungy Says:

    The curse of Jason Licht.

  370. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Thanks for not resigning Matt Bryant Mark Dominik!

  371. Dano Says:

    Jesus Christ We can’t kick a FG!!!!

  372. tmaxcon Says:

    Maybe Glennon can tryout for kicker since he has such a forgiving fan base here. his chicago career was over before it started.

  373. stpetebucsfan Says:

    This is getting as bad as college when a desperate teams puts out a call for ANYBODY who has ever kicked in organized football.

    How did we ever get this snakebit? At least Folk has the leg strength that new backup can barely kickoff to the endzone.

    I watch our kickers…see DK’s expression and I think of that old BSPN schtick..
    C’MON MAN!!!

  374. Pa Privateer Says:

    I purposely walked away from the TV for that last kick. I didn’t want a miss to ruin my good vibes from the game so far.

  375. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    tmaxcon is right that Doug is the most unreliable outside of Sims. But Foug is still the best runner.

  376. BuccoDav Says:

    Do we miss Aguayo yet?

  377. Rod Munch Says:

    Just a fun fact I posted the other day – Sebastian Janikowski, who was picked 17th overall (yes in the first round) actually had a worse rookie year than Roberto. In fact Janikowski has had three seasons worse than Roberto had last year.

    I don’t disagree with the Bucs cutting him, I think it had to happen, but just keep in mind that Sebastian Janikowski is in his 17th season now. Roberto will still be in the NFL a decade from now.

  378. JameisDungy Says:

    Thank goodness for Jameis.

    Jason Licht should be very thankful 2015 was such a good QB draft (JW or MM).

    You don’t cut draft Roberto.

    Then when you do you don’t cut him for Folk. Awful.

    I really like Licht, but c’mon.

  379. BuccoDav Says:

    Just kidding…

  380. tmaxcon Says:

    being dependent on a proven unreliable often injured running back is very sad. you martin fans are hilarious you would think he was Jim Brown the way you defend his arse and completely forget the fact he sucks more than he is good.

  381. JameisDungy Says:

    Good point Rod Munch.

  382. Pa Privateer Says:

    Holy Hell who is this QB?

  383. Rod Munch Says:

    tmaxcon – It’s an odd numbered year, Doug will be an all-pro again. In fact he’s the only all-pro 1st team runningback the Bucs have ever had.

  384. JameisDungy Says:


    I don’t think Doug is great. In fact I wanted us to sign Adrian Peterson or trade up and draft Cook or Mixon.

    Problem is the guys behind look mediocre at best.

  385. JameisDungy Says:

    Pa Privateer

    Brandon Allen…..yea he looks solid out there at QB.

  386. Rod Munch Says:

    The new replay system is actually quite good – they got the call quickly there.

  387. stpetebucsfan Says:

    So our 1’s and 2’s looked good and the 3’s not so much.

    What the hell is so hard about kicking an extra point.

    I know Pittsburgh liked to go for two…it might be time for DK to polish our two point extra point offense. Seriously…which makes you hold your breath more…#3 throwing to ME13..or OJ…or Brate in the end zone or any of our kickers?

  388. BuccoDav Says:

    We don’t think he is Jim Brown. Just the RB with the most potential on this team.
    You can’t design plays for players you don’t have, so there is no sense in wishing another player is on your team.

  389. Tampa Bay Tailgater Says:

    You people even mentioning Roberto are homers. Relax. Folk is proven quit jumping each time something good or bad happens during preseason.

  390. Oxycondoms Says:

    I was surprised bucs cut aguyao so soon . Wasn’t much of a competition

  391. Rod Munch Says:

    It rained heavy today in Jacksonville, is the field in bad condition? Both teams missing kicks.

  392. BuccoDav Says:

    Wow…did mentioning JB get me in moderation?

  393. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    tmax rant incoming

  394. Rod Munch Says:

    Tailgater – I have no issues with Folk being the kicker AND I agree that Roberto had to go AND I believe Roberto will kick in the NFL for a long time.

    For example the Bucs once had a kicker by the name of John Carney – he was our kicker for parts of 1988 and 1989, but we had Donald Igwebuike who was an excellent kicker. John Carney got cut and went on to have one of the best careers that a kicker has ever had – but that wasn’t going to happen in Tampa.

    Meanwhile Steve Christie beat out Donald a couple of years later and we had our kicker of the future… except Ray Perkins wanted to save a few dollars and didn’t tag him (I think that’s the term for back then too) and they left him unprotected so he’d get like $50k less – but he gave his word to Perkins he wouldn’t leave.

    Then Buffalo called and well, the rest is kicker history.

  395. Pa Privateer Says:

    Let’s sign their 3rd string QB…..hell let’s trade for him

  396. tmaxcon Says:


    I think it’s hard to judge the ones yet based on playing with backups. i am not sold on the rb position but I am more comfortable rolling with the other guys and stop wasting time with a guy you can not trust.


    if he was proven he would have made those kicks

  397. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Hicks at FB is doing some decent blocking.

  398. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Mchnichols out there looking exceptionally average.

  399. Rod Munch Says:

    Who compares Sapp and McCoy? They’re totally different style of players. Sapp is a 1st ballot HOF’er, McCoy is an all-pro but won’t be a first ballot HOF’er – comparing him to Sapp is nonsense and an impossibly high bar.

  400. NJBucsFan Says:

    Fitzpatrick is scary bad

  401. Rod Munch Says:

    So when does Griffin get back?

  402. THETRUTH Says:

    Folk has been up and down his career , everyone looks at last season but he needs to get it right cuz that’s what we stuck with.

  403. JameisDungy Says:


  404. tmaxcon Says:

    BuccoDav – i do believe their is a treatment program for fans that fall in love with mediocrity. doug is a joke a proven loser and bad teammate. he can not be trusted. new bucs give those of us with standards hope while the holdover losers led by gmc, dotson, martin warm the hearts of the fans content with losing.

  405. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Wanna know where Fitz is gonna go with the ball? Follow Kicks. Everywhere he went, the ball followed.

  406. Dano Says:

    Good Lord Fitz

  407. Tampa Bay Tailgater Says:

    All good Rod and thanks for the background, good stuff. I’ve been seeing ppl say we cut him too early because of a missed 47 yd fg. XP being blocked can go either way but he’s going to be fine. Roberto getting canned probably added some pressure temporarily but he’s going to be our kicker.

  408. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I am amazed tmaxcon isp utting down someone other than McCoy.

    At least he’s putting out fresh commentary!

  409. JameisDungy Says:


    Just not sure taking Evans over Kamara in the 2nd round was the right move. Only thing missing on this offense is an explosive back. Not sure jeremy mcnichols is the guy.

  410. Pa Privateer Says:

    Seriously, let’s trade for this 3rd string QB…Allen. Kid is ballin

  411. Rod Munch Says:

    Some fun facts…

    Nick Folk is the 33rd best FG kicker of all-time (% all time).

    Connor Barth is 17th all time.

    Matt Bryant is 9th all time.

    We seem to be going in the wrong direction.

  412. JameisDungy Says:

    Allen looks like Jimmy G from the Pats.

  413. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Man! Bullough is there for every tackle.

  414. Dano Says:

    David, Beckwith, and 1st team Oline stood out to me

  415. JameisDungy Says:

    Evans looked scared in space.

  416. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Pa Privateer, no need to trade for him. He’s be on waivers soon. I doubt they keep 3 QBs this year.

  417. Dano Says:

    Spence didn’t do anything out there

  418. Rod Munch Says:

    Joe Dirt is always around the ball – I just wish they’d play him earlier since I want to see what he can do with the 2nd team.

  419. Pa Privateer Says:

    Love Bullough so far. Seems to be everywhere the ball is going.

    Beckwith, Glanton and Bullough looked very good tonight. Solid group of LBs this year

  420. Blake_bucsfan Says:


    I can only agree with you at this point, haven’t seen Evans do much of anything so far. Looks lost in pursuit, and hasn’t flashed in coverage either.

    I had Kamara pegged for a 2nd round talent, Justin Evans wasn’t even on my radar, not that I’m a professional scout or my opinion means anything.

  421. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Looks like LB will be a great group this year.

  422. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    All I can do is hope to learn that Justin can learn to use his all of his athletic gifts and develop into a great Free safety.

    I think that Conte and Tandy have the starting jobs locked down this season though.

  423. Rod Munch Says:

    Are the Jags really going to start Henne? LOL! I mean year Bortles isn’t any good – but Henne? Wow.

  424. Dano Says:

    I’m not sold on Justin Evans, I think that’s a wasted 2nd Rd pick

  425. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Back ups are getting thrashed.

  426. Pa Privateer Says:

    Nice play on Fleming covering the WR until the last second to tackle the scramble

  427. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Wonder if they have the guts to cut Bortles…

  428. ScottyinFatAntonio Says:

    We better pray to the football gods that none of our first stringers get hurt during the ENTIRE year.

  429. Dano Says:

    I’m shocked @ Bortles. He looked good his rookie yr

  430. BuccoDav Says:

    So, Tmax… you must be a very impressive person. The best in your field, probably a multimillionaire. And all done by yourself with no help.
    But football is the ultimate team sport. One player, even an exceptional DT , can only dominate so much by himself. Quit trying to expect him to be Sapp. Even Sapp didn’t do it all by himself, there were all pro’s, if not hall of gamers, in every level of that defense.
    Your standards are not high, they are unrealistic.
    To deny that he is one of the best DT’s in the game and an asset to the team just shows your bias against him.

  431. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


  432. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Game over.

  433. Rod Munch Says:

    Dano – I disagree, Bortles has been terrible every year – he just was putting up a bunch of garbage time stats a couple of years ago and people thought he was good. I think the Bortles isn’t awful talk came from fantasy football players mainly.

  434. JameisDungy Says:

    Dede Westbrook is impressive…

  435. roger borras Says:

    defense made some good plays in the endzone there. i was surprised considering the way they got walked on going down the field. way to stand up when you have to.

  436. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Got lucky…..awful playcalling by Jax

  437. Pa Privateer Says:

    I am telling you, This jags QB Allen has a nice touch, great pocket presence and has some wheels. They should be playing that kid with the 1st team offense

  438. Rod Munch Says:

    I like Mike Smith being aggressive – they didn’t do that last year until the 2nd half of the year and that’s when they turned everything around. They just can’t get a consistent rush with 4 guys, so you have to mix it up.

    Great stand by the defense there even if it was guys who will never play a regular season down.

  439. JameisDungy Says:

    Its not that Evans is a bad player or that he won’t be good.

    Its just unfortunate that he doesn’t look like a day one contributer. We need that out of 2nd round picks.

  440. Rod Munch Says:

    Privateer – Lots of QBs look good against future UPS drivers.

  441. Dano Says:

    I didn’t see any pass rush from DLine

  442. Pa Privateer Says:

    Watch Allen score loolololol

  443. Rod Munch Says:

    Come on Joe Dirt – get some big play to end the game and secure your roster spot.

  444. Pa Privateer Says:

    @ Rod Munch

    I realize that they are future beer delivery guys. But he is showing talent to be coached up as a great backup QB.

  445. Pa Privateer Says:

    Well, Allen, you screwed the pooch with those 2 plays lol

  446. Oxycondoms Says:

    Nice deep ball accuracy by Winston to Evans on that dropped pass. Beautiful pass that was

  447. Rod Munch Says:

    Overall good game. Winston made a couple of bad plays but made a bunch of good plays. Folk had a kick blocked on the XP, I’m not worried about him. The playcalling early on was good before Dirk shut it down a little in the 2nd quarter, which is OK since you don’t want to show your full playbook. The 1st team defense looked good, albeit it versus Bortles so that’s what you’d expected. I’d give the team overall a B-. Anger didn’t have a good night, which is highly unusual, maybe the stench of the city of Jacksonville populated his mind bringing back bad memories, not sure.

  448. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Agree totally with your review. I might add I thought ST’s looked a little shaky.
    Blocked XP and that return…just need to clean it up a bit.

  449. Dreambig Says:

    I am a bit buzzed so it may not count, but Evens was a bad pick. Period. Maybe a worst 2nd round pick than Aguayo. Just saying. WTF didn’t we get a running back with that pick?

  450. Dreambig Says:

    Evans was playing against future UPS drivers (no offense to UPS drivers, love you guys) and he couldn’t be good enough to be noticed.

  451. SB Says:

    Love you guys!!! GO BUCS!!!!!

  452. tmaxcon Says:


    being top 5 dt does not offset the soft mindset and acceptance of losing he has demonstrated time and time again. he is a good player but not a driven champion. i want championships nothing else. money can be spent more wisely. i don’t hide my disdain for gmc’s game i am very bias I think he is good but not special. he will miss over half the season going by the logic above that its an odd year so doug will be fine based on history and that logic gmc will miss 8 plus games. write that down.

  453. Rod Munch Says:

    Dreambig – Just a tiny bit early to label a rookie safety in his 2nd preseason game a bust. Safety, like TE, is one of the hardest positions for a rookie to learn and play. I don’t know, call me nuts but I think I’ll wait a season or two before labelling him a bust – in either case I’ll certainly wait longer than 2 preseason games.

  454. Rod Munch Says:

    Is tmax like a combo name for tampons and maxipads?

    Asking for a friend.

  455. Jeffbuc Says:

    Yeah the two second round picks we should be worried about is evans and spence. Didn’t hear there name all night. Saw spence get blown up on first play of game by yeldon. And as for Evans he looks lost. Doesn’t look like he will be playing much this year. Haven’t seen any good tape so far on him. But I must say McCoy really looked good tonight. He lived in the backfield. And I hope folk has a small family to feed I lost all confidence in him.

  456. SB Says:

    HEY tmax………you just need to realize that None of us respect your point of view anymore. PERIOD!
    Get on with it.

  457. Rob W Says:

    I thought the bucs looked very weak tonight. They won, barely, against an awful squad. no finishing, could have been tied at the end of the first half. Back ups look awful. We nwwd way more improvement before game 1.

  458. Rob W Says:

    I thought the bucs looked very weak tonight. They won, barely, against an awful squad. no finishing, could have been tied at the end of the first half. Back ups look awful. We need way more improvement before game 1.

  459. Rod Munch Says:

    SB – In fairness I never respected tmax’s point of view, you have to have a lot of water on the brain to actually think McCoy, one of the best DT’s in football, an all-pro’er, a year in year out pro-bowler, should be cut because he’s not, GRRRRRRRRRR, angry, GRRRRRRR, enough, GGRRRRRRRR, for ME!!!

    So I’ll not so respectfully disagree with the opinion of Tpad who clearly was born a few months too early and never fully developed.

  460. Rod Munch Says:

    Rob – Hey Rob, maybe you should stick to reviewing My Little Pony episodes on Netflix, not sure football is your deal.

    Glad I could help.

  461. SB Says:

    I get that Rod 🙂

  462. Rod Munch Says:

    Oh I forgot, I like to end my comments on an up note so it doesn’t get too heated in here, so sorry TJmax I forgot to say God bless. My bad.

    God bless.

  463. SB Says:

    Oh no…….Rod Munch = Tim Tebow???

  464. SB Says:

    Not a bad thing in ANY way though. All good here

  465. destinjohnny Says:

    i watched Justin play alot at TAM>. He has athleticism and thats what seduced Jason. I said it then and I will say in now. it was an awful pic,
    But i hope he proves me wrong

  466. Doctor Stroud Says:

    Just got back from the game! It was great to see a lot of Bucs fans in the crowd! And Rod, your point about Blake Bortles in garbage time is right on. There is an article in fivethirtyeight.com that makes exactly that point. Bortles would be a Hall of Famer, if he is judged by his garbage time stats alone. The fans booed him out of the stadium.

  467. SB Says:

    GREAT Point Doctor Stroud.

  468. Rob W Says:

    Yes Rod, I will watch more closely. The Jags look like a sub .500 team this year again. The Bucs dominated in some ways, but put few points on the board, We are a long way from where we want to be. Starting the half with 12 points was a big let down against such low opposition.

  469. SB Says:

    Guys…………”Pre Season”
    Let that sink in for a minute!!!!
    “Pre Season”………
    We are trying not to get anyone hurt and our 1s are winning.
    Isn’t that good enough?

  470. SB Says:

    I’m out for the night. Peace Love and Superbowls!!!

  471. NFLNut Says:


    Jameis was an:

    “elite talent” the day he was drafted
    “elite rookie” his rookie season … in fact the best 21 year old ever
    “elite 2nd year QB” his 2nd season … in fact the best 22 year old ever
    and will be an “elite QB” this year imho

    The guy was better than reigning MVP Matt Ryan his rookie year … last year he had next to nothing to work with while Matt Ryan was surrounded by all-world talent on the offensive side of the ball … this year JW finally has some massive weapons and I expect him to perform.

    As for BucNut’s silly statements about elite QBs not making the mistakes Jameis does … he’s wrong. If you look at which QBs led the entire NFL in interceptions during a season (something Jameis has not done) you will find a ton of elite HOF’ers like Unitas, Namath, Bradshaw, Favre, etc.

    Elite QBs that can make every throw and are not “system QBs” generally do make terrible decisions from time to time as they believe in their arm and attempt crazy stuff … it’s the same in basketball with insanely gifted offensive talents like Kobe, Iverson, Westbrook, etc …

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … Jameis is the greatest and most accomplished QB of his age in the history of football … but he’s nowhere near his prime … so R-E-L-A-X and enjoy the ride!


  472. Rod Munch Says:

    SB – I’m just me and while sure I might insult my fellow fan in a non-heated debate, while I might humiliate them in the arena of public opinion AND fact, while I might make them look like they have the same IQ as my shoelace – it’s just football and I want to leave on a high note, with a positive statement that brings us all together!

    God bless…