Saints Sound A Lot Like Jameis

June 2nd, 2017

Who could forget the over-the-top glowing about running back Adrian Peterson this spring from America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston?

It was stunning. Jameis truly sounded as if training with Peterson transformed his football life.

And Jameis said he “absolutely” wanted to play with Peterson.

Of course, the Bucs didn’t sign Peterson in free agency for a few million bucks to play this season. That honor went to the Saints and their powerhouse offense.

Many Bucs fans applauded; many Bucs fans groaned.

But what’s interesting now is how Saints players are floored by how great 32-year-old Peterson is performing in spring practices, aka OTAs. This Times-Picayune story is stunning in its array of quotes from Saints players and the description of Peterson’s feats of strength.

Also quite telling are the comments from the author, long-time beat writer Jeff Duncan.

This is my 20th year covering the NFL. I’ve long since grown accustomed to offseason hype. It arrives every June, just like the heat and humidity. But I’ve never heard players talk about a peer the way the Saints spoke about Peterson on Thursday.

This went beyond your typical, run-of-the-mill, pie-in-the-sky optimism. Players, many of which rank among the best in the NFL, spoke in reverential tones about his athleticism and were awestruck by his work ethic and drive.

Joe will just say this. The May/June hype for Peterson is as utterly worthless as the praise being heaped on Doug Martin by Bucs staff and players.

31 Responses to “Saints Sound A Lot Like Jameis”

  1. Kalind Says:

    I’d rather have AP for 3 mill than Doug “I have an Owwie” Martin for 6.5

  2. Eric Says:

    The way I’ve been seeing it, the Saints offense was never an issue. They are always the top of the league and it’s because of the passing game. They rush can only help them so much, if at all. I can’t see the offense getting that much better to be honest, but we will see.

    I highly doubt their defense improves which will be their backbreaker.

  3. Aaron Says:

    I don’t doubt that he’s in great shape and has a work ethic 2nd to none – I just don’t see how he’ll all of a sudden have that “burst” and if he does have some burst – how long does it last. Lots of hits on those tires…saying that, I hope he’s great – not just against the Bucs.

  4. tnew Says:

    Hes a gamble, and not a bad one. The true issue is how many games will/can he play? If its 16, look out.

  5. mark2001 Says:

    If he helps them win one game against us, or God help us, two, the goals for this season are on very thin ice…. the only kind of ice in Florida.

  6. Pickgrin Says:

    I question the Bucs decision to not sign AP considering the Saints got him for only $3M. We shall see if it was good decision or not.

  7. darin Says:

    Exactly Eric. Their defense will once again keep them out of the playoffs. Good ole payton just cant spend his money n draft picks on defense. Once again trading to go up n get another running back. Gona spell doom. Go bucs

  8. WESLEY Says:

    Joe clearly has some personal beef with Doug, and has for quite some time.
    Absolutely not. Not in the slightest. Joe simply isn’t ignoring Martin’s awful season last year, or him being injured significantly in three of the past four seasons. And Joe’s not pretending underwear football is telling for running backs.–Joe

  9. Defense Rules Says:

    Saints are definitely one of the most fascinating teams in the NFL … thanks to Drew Brees IMO. They’ve had a 7-9 record each of the last 3 yrs, but they always have a top-ranked offense counter-balanced by a bottom-ranked defense. Looking back at 2014-2016, Saints ran about 1,100 plays every season (that alone amazes me), and of those they averaged 63% passing & 37% running plays. They gain lots of yards & put up lots of points, but their defense let them down time and time again. Interestingly their TOP was excellent … gut feel is that Saints want to run the ball more & eat up even more clock. Signing Adrian Peterson may just give them that capability.

  10. Kalind Says:

    Wesley, don’t mistake me for Joe.

    I have an issue with that lazy SOB, has a hammy pulled and missed 65% of the season. Then to make matters worse, he’s doing (some) drug(s).

    Yea I can see why everyone loves and is loyal to this guy. ::eye roll::

  11. Eric Says:

    saints better enjoy their last season with peyton and their last few seasons with brees and ad before they’re the armpit of the league again.

    Joe’s logical and doug only has a 10% chance of making the team so I guess this is all for nothing… 🙁

  12. bucs_365 Says:

    Who gives a sh!te. He’s not with us. If AP ,makes it thru 8 games, it will be a miracle. Maybe he will have one more big season and the Bucs will say “Ooops!”… but I think, on the whole, staying on the path they’re on, and avoiding RBs who appear past their prime is a good idea. Not concerned in the least.

  13. Mike Says:

    Light is a moron, should have got AP, would have showed up for practice, unlike #1 er #11, he’s forgetting about team chemistry

  14. Robertg Says:

    Seem to forget that Peterson had 2 really bad seasons out if the past 4. Kinda like Martin. Of course the buccaneers ol was no where as good as the vikings IMO. Good way to poke that dead horse Joe

  15. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Yeah it’s all worthless to me until the pads are on. EVen then I’d like to see him in preseason against another team. That’s when I could visibly see in 2015 that Martin was back in form

  16. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    What is with the Doug Martin love here. He had TWO….TWO good seasons out of five!!!! The good seasons were just that….good not great. He’s not a gamebreaker….he frequently gets hauled down from behind…and oh hey…he’s freaking unavailable for 60% of the time.

    I do not dislike Doug Martin personally. I do not know him but he seems like a very nice fellow and his teammates seem to like him. It’s not about hating on Martin…it’s about a score of 40%….produce only 40% of the time and that’s just not enough to excite me.

    But I concede that some here love Doug for whatever reason…I do not impugn bizarre motives to their like of Doug….I do not understand why there is so much anger with Joe for simply reporting the TRUTH about Doug Martin.

  17. Gilhealy Says:

    Hey Joe, off topic, what number is D Walker wearing at practice? Oh, and I think we’ll be just fine at RB this year. But I wouldn’t be surprised if All Day puts together a nice season. If he starts out hot, that could be a helluva play action combo.
    Walker wears 87.–Joe

  18. JimmyJack Says:

    Is it just me and Mike or is anybody else. Getting tired of hearing DJax being too good for practice? I thought this team was fixing to make a run. Takes Championship players to make a run and I thought that’s why we got Jackson. Not sure he is the player I thought he was when they signed him.

    He could be added to the long list of flashy athletes that take a big payday to get to a beach town while giving minimal effort

    Don’t think that the elite franchise pay big money for their players to give the finger to practice. My desean balloon was over inflated two weeks ago. Now its barely floating and sinking.

  19. Pickgrin Says:

    SPBF – I’m right there with you on the 40% availability of DM and having doubts because of that history. But the TRUTH is that (when healthy) Martin is the most talented runner on our team and in fact one of the better RBs in the league (when healthy – there’s that disclaimer again).

    I was all for signing AP if the price was right (it was) and letting him and Doug and whoever else is on the roster fight for playing time. The Mo’ the better IMO when it comes to a position that was a ??? heading into the off season. Competition is a good thing. Oh well.

    Bottom line though I believe is that Martin has a pretty strong chance of being on this team in 2017 if he does everything asked of him, doesn’t “relapse” and looks good in TC and pre-season.

  20. Gilhealy Says:

    T Y Joe.

  21. bucs_365 Says:

    Re: DJax attendance

    They knew what they were getting with him. My guess is they felt they already had established the work ethic and culture in the locker room that the vast majority of guys would show up for OTAs. In the end, it’s all about how you perform when it counts. DJax doesn’t necessarily need the extra reps. I think it would be better if he were there and as committed as Mike Evans, but that’s what you buy when you go for some veteran FAs. It’s why free agency is something to dip your toe into rather than build a team with. The drafted players are the ones whose work ethic and commitment will form the winning culture for years to come. DJax is a hired gun, a contractor.

  22. JimmyJack Says:

    Maybe I’m blowing OTAs out of porportion. I really don’t know how big of a deal it is but its unsettling as a fan. Things like these make it tough to support a player under some circumstances. Guys that miss underwear football leave the door open for fans to root for them on a “no excuses” basis.

    One things for certain. You need a lot of players to be 100% committed to win a title. No show for practice will get fans to question the guys motive. And there’s no way he’s too good for practice, I’ve seen the guy turn invisible for quite a few games with philly and washington

  23. MIKE Says:


  24. SB Says:

    Crazy Talk that AP would make us better this yr. Stupid as well. We don’t need a guy on his last leg proving that he is great to Himself to make US a better team. We need Young Hungry guys battling it out. You guys hung up on has beens are missing a bunch.

  25. Pickgrin Says:

    Peterson might have something to say about that “has been” label SB. We shall see if it was a mistake or not to have not signed AP. I think he’s gonna have a good year if he can stay healthy.

  26. bucs_365 Says:

    MIKE Says:
    June 2nd, 2017 at 8:21 pm




    TIME WILL TELL IF IT’S “SHOULD HAVE” OR “SHOULD OF”…… (hint: it’s “should have”)


    I don’t need any time to tell that I don’t want to sacrifice a roster spot for one overpaid over-the-hill RB who might have one more good season left.

  27. Doctor Stroud Says:

    GREAT POST bucs_365!

  28. Dave Says:

    Joe gets dig into Martin everyday. Starting to get old….Very very old.

  29. Bennyboy Says:

    Didn’t JW fly DJax and Mike Evans out to work on timing at some thing in Houston or something like that? If that is the case, I am not as upset with him sitting OTAs out, although I am sure that the extra reps with his QB would not hurt.

  30. LakeLandBuc Says:

    The Saints added Adrian Peterson and Alvin Kamara to their backfield. I believe they will be the surprise of the NFC this season.

  31. Eric Says:

    This is pretty late and I know nobody is going to read it but in response to doug, he had 2 GREAT years, not good, but GREAT when he was on. Do not belittle those seasons they were elite. PERIOD.

    That is why he is given another chance and will ultimately be on the roster week 4. Nobody is giving joe crap for speaking the truth, they are giving him crap for guessing that he won’t make the team and has a little chance of doing so. THAT IS NOT A FACT. I’m okay with facts, but I’m not cool with irrational logic.