Ryan Griffin No. 32

May 17th, 2017

It seems winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter better be lighting plenty of candles this offseason in hopes that America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, stays healthy.

That’s the opinion of Eric Single of SI.com. He ranks every backup quarterback in the NFL and says Bucs backup Ryan Griffin is dead-last in the NFL.

Griffin hasn’t collected a stat in four years as a pro, and Jameis Winston hasn’t missed a game since September 2014, when he was serving a suspension during his final year at Florida State. There are no sure things in the NFL when it comes to injuries, but the Bucs are making a relatively safe bet in leaving the cupboard pretty bare behind their sturdy franchise QB.

Joe has stated time and again;  if your starting quarterback goes down, your hopes of a Super Bowl go out the window. Unlike a lot of fans, Joe doesn’t lose sleep over who is backing up Jameis. (Yes, Joe knows what Brock Osweiler accomplished, and that Brad Johnson didn’t start every game in 2002.)

For if Jameis goes down, so too go the Bucs, unless Brett Favre wants to come out of retirement.

65 Responses to “Ryan Griffin No. 32”

  1. SB Says:

    Tom Brady was down for four games this yr. Then Garrapolo went down and they won with Jacoby Brissett for chrissakes.

  2. Dooshlarue Says:

    Yeah Joe, look what happened to Dallas when Romo went down last year.
    What a misguided way to look at the backup QB position.

  3. rayjay1122 Says:

    Yes, there are some teams that have good enough back up QB’s to win when the starter is out. We are not one of them and I honestly do not know why we do not try to get a veteran QB who is good enough to at least be a game manager and is OK being the back up QB. If we are truly in win now mode, I would think a little insurance at the back up QB position is not a bad Idea. I have not seen anything from Griffin in preseason games to make me believe that he could lead us to victory over even the worst teams in the league.

  4. BucswinBucswin Says:

    You are wrong Joe. If you have a decent backup and great coaching teams can overcome an injury to their starting QB. See Arians and Belacheat. You don’t just throw the towel in . THats not fair to the players, or the fans.

  5. R.O. Says:

    I don’t think there is much difference between backups for all the teams. Maybe Garrapolo in NE. But comparing Griffin to the likes of Blaine Gabbert is stupid. We would be ranked higher if we had Gabbert or Weeden… C’mon!! Move on.. tires of stories about depth at all positions. No team has quality depth at every positions…

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It seems obvious that Lucht & Koetter like Griffin…,They ate up a roster spot for two years to keep him. It would de easy with our cap space to bring in a Vereran backup. But we chose not to do that.

  7. BuccaneerByBirth Says:

    I kinda disagree with this sentiment since the last two super bowl winners utilized their backups during the year. It’s important to have a guy that can give you a win or two

  8. BCoburn Says:

    Like many things, stating absolutes can be a foolish thing to do. If your starting QB is out most of the season then yeah your playoff hopes are gone. If your QB misses a few games, having a decent QB might be the different between finishing 10-6 or 8-8, which means playoffs hopefully with your starting QB back.

  9. Juggernautical Says:

    I still think the Bucs should kick the tires on Kap or RGIII

  10. IdeaGuy Says:

    Don’t shoot the messenger here, but Kaepernick is available and could be an experienced backup for this year. BIG ASSUMPTION – he’s out of his kneeling phase, and is looking for a way to prove that he’s a changed man. Being on Hard Knocks could be great PR for him to demonstrate that to everyone.

  11. Buc1987 Says:

    Oh Joe.

  12. SCBucsFan Says:

    It’s one thing to say lose your backup QB and you don’t win the Super Bowl but it’s another to say lose your backup QB and you lose any chance to win anything. What is JW gets dinged in the melon and has to take the second half of a game off? Do we just write that game off? Remember, one more W last year and we are playoff bound.

  13. Gencoimports Says:

    I agree. They need to bring in vet. Kaepernick or RG III would be worth the risk

  14. Joe Says:

    Don’t shoot the messenger here, but Kaepernick is available and could be an experienced backup for this year. BIG ASSUMPTION – he’s out of his kneeling phase, and is looking for a way to prove that he’s a changed man. Being on Hard Knocks could be great PR for him to demonstrate that to everyone.

    Sadly for Sideshow Bob, the deed is done and he never apologized (well, his apology was basically like saying, “I didn’t mean for my sh!t that I dropped on your living room rug to stink.”)

    Given how this market totally freaked over Mike Evans’ sitdown, can only imagine how well a backup quarterback doing that multiple times and being unapologetic would go over. Both the Bucs and Team Glazer know better. Teams are not going to tolerate backups who cost them bags of cash.

  15. '79Defense Says:

    “For if Jameis goes down, so too go the Bucs, unless Brett Favre wants to come out of retirement.”

    That’s news, Joe. Did Brett Favre finally decide to retire?

  16. The Buc Realist Says:

    Its amazing how many teams that were in the super bowl in the last 10 years that had to at some point bring the back up QB. But Joe see’s no use for one!!!! Joe got his wish and now MG8 is out of town!!!! Hopefully JW3 never gets injured because just like Joe’s wish, we will be “F’ed”!!!!!!!! even if it for a game or 2!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    There really is no other way to put it Joe. Kap is out.

    Great analogy btw. lol

  18. SCBucsFan Says:

    Since people have questioned the use of the ! it has expanded exponentially

  19. The Buc Realist Says:


    And don’t forget the “cops are pigs” socks he would wear!!! or the castro t-shirt!!!! Or him dropping the N-word and getting fined in 2015, or that thing in miami with that girl!!!!!!!!!

    No, we don’t need trash for backup around here!!!!! Kudos to the NFL league for taking a knee on commie kaepernicks career!!!!!!!!

    Go Truth, Justice, and The American Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Joe Says:

    That’s news, Joe. Did Brett Favre finally decide to retire?


    Dude still talks about returning to the field. 🙂

  21. Joe Says:

    or the castro t-shirt!!!!

    That just demonstrates the guy’s abject ignorance, aside from which he didn’t even vote. Pure definition of a fraud.

  22. stopthemadness Says:

    I would rather forfeit a game than have Kap represent the Bucs on the field. No thank you.

  23. scott Says:

    I actualy really like how he played pre season. The receivers dropped all his passes but he threw really well.

  24. mike10 Says:

    Ya not great perspective Joe. If you are on a roll, the worst rated backup is not going to maintain your pace if you need him to come in for a game or two..

  25. Eric Says:

    You know how many people I talked to that assert Kap was not a distraction? LOL

    Too many. For some reason when I said that he way, they thought I was being racist. SMH

  26. Micheal Says:

    You know my mom always told me if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything! I think in this case it would be best so i don’t hurt anyone’s feelings!

  27. Buc1987 Says:


    This is JBF. Fire away kid.

  28. The Buc Realist Says:


    Is that why your Mom’s so quiet??????? Some of us have to tell the TRUTH and drop the hammer!!!!!!

    Go Truth, Justice, and The American Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. tmaxcon Says:

    At least we are not the Bears they don’t have a starting or backup quarterback on roster.

  30. martinii Says:

    Many have expressed their satisfaction with Ryan, and I guess it is how Koetter and Licht feel that really matters but I am not on board with a back-up QB that has never played a down that mattered. I think a lot of folks are down on Kapernick because of his off field antics and possibly his level of play and I fully understand those concerns. My question, however, is if there were 5 minutes to go in a tied game with the Panthers who would you rather have at the helm of your dynamic new offense, Kapernick or Ryan?

  31. tmaxcon Says:


    Glennon is unproven as a backup and a failure as a starter. Losing glennon hardly was a blow to bucs talent wise. And don’t worry he will be available by week 4 and most likely bears will be happy to eat any guarantees left to get that heartless loser out of the locker room.

  32. Eric Says:


    Yet again you proceeded to post another idiotic comment. You just never quit, or get smarter huh?

  33. tmaxcon Says:

    Hey little Eric,

    How many games as glennon entered as a backup? 3 –
    hardly makes him proven backup and his 5-13 record as a starter is failure even factoring in all the tired excuses glennon nut huggers use. So what’s idiotic is the fact that you have a mancrush on yet another mediocre to below average player. Base your argument on fact not your crush and I’ll gladly listen that being said the stats prove I’m right and you just have low standards


  34. biff barker Says:

    This POS hates Merica. Nuke him!

  35. UTAHDAVE Says:

    Kap in a military town? Ya right, not going to happen and don’t want him! This story is funny though, I have been thinking about the back up QB spot since the draft. Was wondering if we should of drafted one.

    Go Bucs!!

  36. rrsrq Says:

    Kap all day, every day

    I see all the post calling him out, he would put the Bucs at the #1 spot for a back up QB. Secondly, Kap put his money where his actions were. He has always stated it wasn’t all cops, just those who wear the badge and think they are above the law and yeah, the ones who will not speak out against their fellow officers. The guy donates his money to causes that he believes in, including that little clause that says, “justice for all”, “the right to pursue happiness” by feeding the hungry. If anyone of you would take the time to read what he is doing and not just go all anti-Kap because he took a knee, you might just see things slightly different.
    I know he will not become a Buc, but if he did, I would definitely feel better if Jameis goes down with him than Griffin, unless it’s RGIII.

  37. RayJameisStadium Says:

    Joe has stated time and again; if your starting quarterback goes down, your hopes of a Super Bowl go out the window.” – Joe

    HMMMM… Joe thinks we can reach the Super Bowl!!!!!!!

    This is not the Joe that is depress at Ray Jameis Stadium!!!!

  38. Eric Says:


    Wow bro, you really manipulated your loaded rebuttal, little man. You perceived quite a bit of context by what I wrote.

    He’s entered 3 games as a backup, did you forget he was a starter? LMAO Oh ya and his record is indicative of his performance huh? There you go again correlating individual success to the overall team. Plus the roster is a little different today.

    Please list 5 backup quarterbacks that are better than him. I’ll wait…

    Now you’re getting quite defensive, stating that I have a mancrush on him. A little weird, but okay. I agree the guy is average, but how many above average backups exist in the NFL today?

    Also, I was mainly addressing your little girly-gossip opinion of him being a heartless loser. You are too sensitive.

    Jason Licht was willing to make Glennon the highest paid backup in the NFL but tmax the emotional blogger on JBF disagrees with that decision. LMAO. Please give us some “facts” as to why you are right.

  39. SCBucsFan Says:

    Sign Kaepernick already.

  40. Brandon Says:

    You want a good backup… Ryan Fitzpatrick is available, I believe. Extremely smart and gritty, but has run out of chances and youth to seriously threaten a team’s starter. I would think the Ivy League grad would also be great in the QB room.

  41. The Buc Realist Says:

    SCBucsFan Says:
    May 17th, 2017 at 11:31 am
    Sign Kaepernick already.

    Why are they hiring for sanitation at RJS???????

    Go Truth, Justice, and The American Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. Dirks Great Granpappy Says:

    I’m with Eric. Tmax is an immature and uneducated fool with the way he Tirelessly focuses on some of these guys.

    Glennon is a very capable back up. And no im not a glennon nut hugger but I’m starting to have some questions for tmax with the way he always brings up hugging nuts

  43. Eric Says:

    Seriously man, the guy is like clockwork.

    I’m still waiting for any positivity.

    You’re right! He is always talking about ballsacks.

  44. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    I think the Bucs would be wise to sign a different Ryan as Jameis’s backup…I believe Ryan Fitzpatrick is still available? Will he win you a season of games if JW3 goes down in week 1…probably not, but can he keep his composure and win a few games if Jameis has to miss a few….probably yes. I just hate to see the team bank on a guy who has virtually no regular season playing time, especially when a serviceable backup can probably be had for cheap (a relative term I realize, cheap for a veteran QB).

  45. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    Damn sorry Brandon…didn’t even see your post a couple before mine lol

  46. bucs_365 Says:

    This is one of Joe’s lamest hits.

    The better your backup QB is, the better chance you have of your season not going down in flames. End of story.

    Always be grooming a replacement for the starter, even if it’s Tom Brady.

  47. Pick6 Says:

    you never know. where would Dak Prescott have ranked on a backup QB ranking list in mid-May 2016? we know nothing about the guy, period.

    still, i wouldn’t be surprised to see the bucs add a QB who has played some football on sundays in the weeks running up to camp. The bucs valued Mike Glennon significantly and pursued Nick Foles, so it’s not out of the question that an experienced but underwhelming QB like a Ryan Fitzpatrick or a Christian Ponder winds up on the roster before it’s all said and done

  48. Conte Piscateli Says:

    I wonder who that 6th rounder that replaced Drew Bledsoe was?

  49. webster Says:

    Kap owes no one an apology. He told everyone why he was kneeling but the racist wanted to make it about the military as a deflection to the ugly truth that racist cops are killing minorities for sport. Instead of tackling that issue, you want to talk about some flag. If you were so patriotic, you would have a problem with a president letting a russian spy in the oval sharing secrets. No, racist are only patriotic when a black man exercise his rights as a citizen.

  50. Bucsfanman Says:

    Well, yes, if JW goes down for any lengthy injury, we’re sunk. I’ll give you that. However, what if we need a win in say week 16 to make the playoffs and JW isn’t there? Your guy is Griffin?! Hmmm, not exactly a confidence booster!
    And nobody knew anything about Prescott or Osweiler, either. Often, the unknown has higher upside than the proven dud. –Joe

  51. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    There is no way you want a controversial QB as a backup….you get all the negatives and only get the positive if he performs well after Jameis goes down…..too much of a gamble.
    A controversial player should start and be able to perform well enough to outweigh the bad PR.

    I think the Farve idea is much better…..

  52. BamaBuc Says:

    Think Kap signed with Seahawks. Also Blount to the Eagles. Don’t quote me just walked in office at work and was on bspn.

  53. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pabl

    “Pablo thinks if Haboo goes down Hason should bring in Heff Garcia”

  54. Eric Says:

    Poor Glennon, didn’t even get through a mini camp before they drafted his immediate replacement.

    They would have to hire Schiano to make that work.

  55. Bucsfanman Says:

    @Joe- I see your point. It still doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy like Rachel Watson!

  56. Pickgrin Says:

    I would be on board with signing Fitz. He probably wants too much $ though….

  57. UTAHDAVE Says:

    Hey Webster, are you calling me a racist? I hope not, you don’t know anything about me behind your big bad keyboard pal. By the way tough guy this is a Bucs site, take your sh.t to CNN or some other political site. We want to talk sports here. It’s not “some flag” it’s the American Flag. Also I am a patriot (Air Force retired), so is my wife who served (Air Force retired) and all the war fighters I work with every day on Hill AFB, UT.

  58. Bucsfanman Says:

    Thanks for your service DAVE!
    Did you know that only 1% of the US population are veterans? I always thought that the number would be higher.

  59. Buccfan37 Says:

    Kaepernick’s asking price is too high, but my guess is that he is better than most of the options out there.

  60. Conte Piscateli Says:

    I don’t think Kap hasn’t been signed because of his protest or his asking price. I think it has more to do with the fact that he couldn’t beat out Blane Gabbert!

  61. ARGH_M8E Says:

    F Kap! RGIII maybe… We don’t need a QB running around for JW3 (If he ever goes down) like chicken w it’s head cut off or up his A$$. RGIII makes more sense from a drama & a pocket passer standpoint. He’s already learned his listen ya?! Maybe not. Sheeeeeeeeee-it… Just gotta keep the franchise upright, he’s a tough son gun. You never know tho, obviously. I can’t stand that tool Kaepernick. WE NEED TO BE STANDING @ RAY JAY, NOT SITTING. I don’t care if he raises up, I’m over that idiot.


  62. JimmyJack Says:

    The Bucs brass has said lots of good things about Griffin but that means relatively nothing. Its like a parent telling their daughter she is beatutiful.

    Deep down the Bucs either feel confident that Griffin could be trusted in a real game or if they have little faith.

    No true way to judge their feeling til the final rosters are set. It will speak volumes if they hold 2QBs with Griffin as backup……or if they hold 3

  63. webster Says:

    @ utahdave

    Thx for your service. My mom retired 35 years from macdill. My aunt and uncle from warner robbins afb. I have two cousins who retired from military as well. I have two cousins currently active. My grandfather served in ww2. I have another late cousin who was a tuskegee airman. I can go on but i wont. There were many active duty and retired vets that supported kap. So if you dont want it political, then stop all this bs about him not being a patriot and he doesnt desrve to play crap. Because thats when you others make it political and i will happily do the same. Oh and its not being a tough guy calling someone a racist. Y

  64. DavidBigBucsfan99 Says:

    From what I saw in the preseason Griffin wasn’t poor and he wasn’t good and not very impressive, but after two years he knows Koetters system better than anyone. Simply a game manager if he can even manage that. We’d truly have to lean on the run game and defense.

    It’s funny how on a football site people bring up Kaeps political probs and its okay but webster brings up racism and clowns like utahdave come out the woodwork and tell him to keep it to himself. Well utahdave racism is as American as apple pie it’s what it was built on. People bring up their military service like it’s supposed to mean something special but unless you gought in a war to preserve our freedoms it don’t because it’s just another job. Many people are not that patriotic in the military but doesn’t mean they won’t fight for their country. Most of you only think of gun rights but military people have died also for freedom of speech and freedom of expression of which Kaep has that right to excercise. A bunch of commies who want to take that right away. People get over yourselves because Kaep kneeling is nothing compared to what your president is doing to this countries image on the world stage.

    Politics aside Kaep or Fitz are the best available back up with starting experience if we really want things to keep flowing should Fameis get injured.

  65. Bucfan951 Says:

    LOL at tmaxipad being called the emotional blogger. Best line I’ve heard all month 😂