“Home Run Pick”

May 4th, 2017
Jeremy McNichols

Lauded by ex-NFL scout.

Whenever someone suggests a fifth-round pick might be more than a fifth-round pick, Joe wants to tap the brakes.

But when it comes from a guy whose opinion Joe values, Joe is wont to pay attention. And this time the words come from Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network.

Jeremiah, a former NFL scout with Philadelphia, Cleveland and Baltimore, learned the craft while working for teh Ravens and Ozzie Newsome, who is one of the top NFL executives and talent evaluators.

Many NFL suits roll their eyes when it comes to analysts working for media outlets, but with Jeremiah, they respect him. And Joe knows Jeremiah is tight with a certain Bucs front office type.

In breaking down each team’s draft on a recent “Movin’ the Sticks” podcast Jeremiah honestly gushed when he spoke about Jeremy McNichols, Tampa Bay’s fifth-round pick.

“I know he has had some injury stuff, but man, I thought in the fifth round, that is a home run pick,” Jeremiah said. “He could end up being their starter long-term.”

Dang. That’s high praise for the 162nd overall pick.

And while Joe very much values Jeremiah’s knowledge and information, let’s see McNichols make the team first.

54 Responses to ““Home Run Pick””

  1. Yungry Says:

    Did he really have 50+ tds in last 2 years? That’s sick

  2. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    The draft is always a crap shoot. It’s nice to know though that we have made choices with some decent odds.

  3. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Great podcast and those 2 definitely do their HW on the players but 5th rounder? But you never know with the RBS that have been killing it the past few years not too many are 1st round guys

  4. Capt.Tim Says:

    Thats exactly what I expect!

  5. Defense Rules Says:

    “Let’s see McNichols make the team first”? I know he’s not Dalvin Cook Joe, but can’t see McNichols not making the team, eventually. Lots of upside it sounds like, especially his pass blocking & pass catching, plus he got lots of big gains on the outside (Bucs need that). What might cost him though is fumbling, but that’s fixable (8 times in 2 yrs isn’t good, and fumblers don’t last long in the NFL it seems). Wouldn’t be surprised though to see him start off the yr on PUP if his shoulder isn’t 100% come training camp, but hopefully not. Bucs could use a RB with his talents.

  6. 813bucboi Says:

    didn’t know about “some injury stuff”….

    @joe, can you get more info?…..was it serious? knee, shoulder, ankle….GO BUCS!!!

  7. Capt.Tim Says:

    His skills as a pass reciever and a pass blocker will get him on the field.
    His vision and balance will keep McNichols there!

  8. BigHogHaynes Says:

    ….but was he touted as the best (by s NFL geeks) Running Back in the 2017 Draft @ Brandon THE MITIGATING FACTOR JOE MIXON… Really we should have drafted both of them (MIXON and McNichols) that would be a backfield ready to make the BUCS Champions!!

  9. BigHogHaynes Says:

    Broke shoulder blade!!

  10. OhioBuc Says:

    “Joe is wont to pay attention”
    “working for teh Ravens”

    Joe should really hire an editor to pre-read his articles for mistakes…

  11. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    yes on mixon big hog…if licht taking dumb risks of 2nd round K and then a LB witha torn ACL 2 rounds to early then why not gamble on mixon

  12. BucinJax Says:

    Been missing you BigHog. Thanks for the injury update.

  13. Mike Johson Says:

    High praise or low praise..he’s still gotta make the team. As does many. Good luck to him..He’ll most certainly need it!

  14. Bucsfanman Says:

    The kid’s got potential and he will definitely get a chance to showcase his talent. With Martin on shaky ground and Sims not having lived up to the billing, he might just crack the line-up sooner than later. We’ll see. It’s all speculation at this point.

  15. The Other Side of the Coin Says:

    This is why you don’t pick RB’s in the first or second round. There is almost always great value later for a position that has a short life span because the injury rate is so high. Even if not severely injured RB’s get beat up so bad they lose their edge. First couple of rounds should always be players that can excel for many years.

  16. Cool Says:

    I wish everyone would stop if he was that good he would have went the first round

  17. tdtb2015 Says:

    Another #WeaponsforWins-a-ton

    Licht years ahead!!!!

  18. SeffnerBuc Says:


    Wont is an actual word, and Joe used it correctly. Hate to be that guy, but I just thought I’d throw that put there haha

    As far as McNichols, I’m cautiously optimistic. He does have a lot of skills that would make him a successful RB, but the chances of that are low. Hope he comes out strong.

  19. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Agree with you 100 percent on Jeremiah, imo he and Charles Davis are the only 2 Tv scouts worth listening to. Everyone else is gutter trash.

    Mayock is certainly better than Kiper, but based on a few of his comments draft night, like Cam Brate being an inline blocker, or Justin Evans needing to beat out Ryan Smith for the starting safety job… It became clear to me that he doesnt do anything more than surface level research.

    And I’ll always harken back to this comment on Mark Barron when weighing the words of Mayock. “His celing is All-pro saftey, and his floor is probowl safety.”

    So yeah I like Jeremiah and Davis.

  20. Erik w/ Clean Athletics 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs fans' Says:

    You will all see the light eventually…

    McNichols is our most complete RB and he will be our starter eventually.

    He combines all the best attributes of our RB’s into one guy.

  21. Steven007 Says:

    Ohio, Joe isn’t using the contraction “won’t” here; he is using the noun form “wont” (one’s customary behavior in a particular situation). The other is a simple typo obviously.

  22. Steven007 Says:

    Seffner, you beat me to it. Didn’t see your comment first. As for McNichols, who isn’t excited about his potential? Could be great value.

  23. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Oh, I like McNichols as well.

    Him, Matin and Quizz will be a formidable trio.

  24. darin Says:

    Yes Im curious to see the guy perform. Im sure he will get alot of carries in the preseason. N cmon ohiobuc you know what joe meant, lets not start the grammar patrol. Go bucs

  25. Brandon Says:

    He’s got plenty of tape on the draft breakdown web site… feel free to watch it and prepare to be happy. The guy can play. I watched ZERO tape on him before the draft but was pleasantly surprised watching him after the pick. He’s a nice combination of the Barbers (the unrelated ones, Tiki and Marion). He’s got Tiki’s wiggle, ability to always fall forward, as well as his pass protection and catching skills and he’s got Marion Barber’s crab-like, I’m not going down quality as well (at times). I couldn’t be more pleased with the RB we picked.

  26. Brandon Says:


    “Wont” is a word… it means a habit… he used it correctly. If you’re going to correct somebody, the first thing you need to make sure of is that they’re actually wrong. Otherwise, it makes you look like a stooge.

    “teh”- is otherwise known as a typo of “the”… but seriously, you tried to correct him and failed when he used a word correctly.

  27. Bucsfanman Says:

    @Blake- However it shakes out, I’m no longer worried about the RB position.

  28. SteveK Says:

    Big Hog Haynes,

    Cmon dude! Joe Mixon hits women, no thanks! She may have provoked him with words, but no excuse to ever hit a woman. She required surgery to repair her face.

    Also, Lovie Smith Sucks! Mike Glennon is going to win more football games in the state of Illinois than Lovie will this year in the Big 10.

    Go be an Illinois and Bengal fan!

    The sheer fact that you hate on the McNichols pick makes me love it that much more. Based on your track record with disapproving of the Lovie firing, I love this pick that much more.

    Martin will be cut, or will get a restructured prove it deal.

    Book it!

    In closing, were you one of the JBF posters to change your screen name when Freeman was cut loose? You strike me as a Freemanite.

  29. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Cool – thank you for saying it. These guys do it every year and they never learn. Last year it was Vitale, the year before that Kenny Bell. They always think these late round guys are going to be studs and they rarely even make the team, let alone contribute. Go back and look an the guys taken in the 5th round since Licht has been here. Not a single one has done anything. One guy made the team but hasn’t done anything meaningful yet.

  30. LouisFriend Says:

    Before anything he has to be completely recovered from shoulder surgery. I don’t see this guy making a big contribution in 2017 if he’s not able to get the reps in preseason. Maybe he is awesome, but I suspect it might be 2018 before we know that.

  31. OhioBuc Says:

    @SeffnerBuc , @Steven007 – I have to say, you got me! I have literally NEVER heard or seen someone use “wont” in this manner, but I agree with you both I was 100% wrong. Thanks for teaching me something new!

    @Brandon – ” “teh”- is otherwise known as a typo of “the”… but seriously, you tried to correct him and failed when he used a word correctly”.

    I like how you say I failed because “teh” is a typo, when typo literally means “error” which is the exact same thing as “mistake” so good try but no dice.

  32. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    LOL Brandon, I laughed my a$$ off when the Ohio guys tries to criticize Joe without realizing he simply has a limited vocabulary.

  33. Mo_Downs Says:

    Our first preseason game will feature the “IMPROVED” Cinci offense with the addition of Joe Mixon and John Ross.


    The 2nd Preseason game will be AT Jacksonville and rookie sensation RB Leonard Fournette.


    Looking forward to the 2nd half of both games. We’ll see what our new FS has to offer..in a hurry.

  34. Joe Says:

    Apparently, McNichols has been dealing with a “shoulder issue” for a year. Still, the guy played 12 and 13 games, respectively, the past two seasons.

    Whatever the shoulder issue was, he gutted it out and performed.

  35. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Jeremy McNichols had surgery for a torn labrum in his shoulder. It’s common for players to play the season with a torn labrum and have offseason surgery. Dalvin Cook, John Ross, Malik Hooker, Ruben Foster, Takkarist McKinley, they all had the same type of surgery.

  36. Mr. Simmons Says:

    The kid will be fine people relax and embrace what’s about to be a successful season.

  37. rrsrq Says:


    same here on Mayock, he is so focused on college scouting, he has no pro idea unless he just guesses on the Bucs, the Brate and Ryan Smith says his people were not up on the moves, I guess if Bucs drafted a guard he would’v esaid how he would play guard behind Marpet. But I still like Mayock better then some of the others.

  38. GhostofTedford Says:

    I am starting to think a home run hit…..with runners on base.


  39. Pickgrin Says:

    TDTB says:
    “…they rarely even make the team, let alone contribute. Go back and look an the guys taken in the 5th round since Licht has been here. Not a single one has done anything.”

    Apparently you forgot about starting LG Kevin Pamphile (2014). And future starting RT(or LG) Caleb Benenoch (2016). The normal “bust” rate for 5th rounders is close to 80%. Licht is running at 50% through 3 drafts (Kenny Bell 2015 and Kadeem Edwards 2014 cut).

    McNichols was incredibly productive in college with over 3000 yards and 43 TDs rushing the ball in his last 25 games (2015 & 2016). He also has what OCs covet in an NFL prospect which is good route running and pass catching skills. 944 yards and 10 TDs receiving the last 2 years. And to top it off – McNichols is already quite good at what it takes most RBs years to get decent at – pass protection.

    Will he make it and become a valuable contributor for this team? Who knows. We haven’t seen him step foot on an NFL field yet. But I’d say there’s a much better chance that McNichols makes this team and contributes than that he sucks and gets cut. We’ll see. Its OK to be excited about the potential of a RB who could have been a late round steal though.

  40. Maze Says:

    Joe’s Cook fanboy club takes another hit

  41. Pryda Says:

    Let’s see how this plays out I trust Licht

  42. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    Because everyone who goes in the first round is great and no one who goes in later rounds is good !!!!! What a bunch of no nothing ignoramuses!!!!!!

  43. Dreambig Says:

    I’ll hold off on buying the McNichols jersey. Boise State did finish a whopping 10-3 but they dont exactly play against elite college teams. They lost to such juggernauts as Wyoming and Air Force. Lets see how he does against an NFL defense.

  44. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Wow, so Benenoch is now an NFL starter??? That is quite a leap of faith! As good as Licht has been with his early round picks, he has been equally dismal with picks 5-7. I am not going to assume a guy taken in the 5th round is going to be the next Barry Sanders. Step 1 will be making the roster. I am hopeful but I am not going to assume now that we have a 5th round running back in the fold that our running game is rock solid. 150 or so collegiate players were taken before this guy was drafted. Let that sink in a little bit. Guys that are really good don’t fall that far unless scouts for every NFL teams made major mistakes. Please don’t cite that anamolies either. Yes it can happen, but the vast majority of these guys dont work out.

  45. Brett Says:

    My point against cutting Martin if the Bucs think he is clean and dedicated, is that it seems hard to count on any of this platoon to be “the guy.” Maybe, maybe not.

    Maybe Peyton Barber is ready to be the guy. it’s hard to imagine the 5th round RB with a shoulder injury being the guy immediately.

    I’ll trust them if they cut Martin this year, but will feel disappointed by the situation.

  46. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    How about Howard for the bears last year?! It happens every dang year!and when he does great you all will be like oh I knew he would be awesome! This is the most negative bucs site I visit a bunch of downers! Oh well have a good one cry baby’s lmao

  47. Buccaneer scotty Says:

    I like barber and Humphrey but they can’t be good they weren’t 1st round picks or even drafted image that!!!!

  48. 808BUCS Says:

    I like this kid, I think that he has all the tools to succeed in the NFL and I think he will be the starter at some point.

  49. SteveK Says:

    I am cheering for our players and rookies.

    I think McNichols could replace Martin, just being real.

  50. Eric Says:

    Still waiting for Kareem Huggins to hit it big, although he has made the roster of the Brooklyn Bolts.

    Man looked like a superstar in training camp and pre season.

  51. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    You’re right Scotty. Mike James was a 5th round pick that everyone was high on when he was drafted and he is now a superstar…..oh wait! All I am saying Scotty is that everyone thinks every draft pick was a great one until they fail. Considering the fact that 80% of 5th rounders dont make it, the odds would say that he is probably not the next Walter Peyton. Time will tell and I hope im wrong, but I am not relying on 5th rounders to carry us to the Super Bowl.

  52. Buc1987 Says:

    Buccaneer scotty…I hear you but, it’s not very common. Especially with the Bucs. Things could be different with Licht though. He might find a gem that late.

    Anywho it won’t take an elite running back in order to run the ball for this team. It would be magical, sure. Cause I don’t see magic in the current rb rotation. Unless of course they get 2015 Doug Martin. Maybe next draft if things don’t work out?

    IF…if 2015 Doug Martin comes back. Then I mean really, what’s the NFL to do about us? 🙂

    Makes me shiver at the thought, that I just want the season to get here sooooooooo bad!!!!

  53. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Mike James was a 6th round draft pick in the 2013 NFL draft.

  54. SeattleBuc Says:

    Dirk said he had torn labrum and should be ready by camp.