Turnovers Tell Story

December 19th, 2016
Picks are bad.

Picks are bad.

As they often do, turnovers are a tip off to a result.

In the five-game winning streak of the Bucs, the squad forced 14 takeaways. Pretty damned impressive.

Tonight against a rookie quarterback who was struggling entering the game? The Bucs forced one fumble and could not take advantage of it as the Bucs got zero points from the second half miscue by the Cowboys.

Meanwhile, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, has three picks. Yeah, one pick was a Hail Mary at the end of the first half. Another pick was when his elbow got hit while throwing (thank you Gosder Cherilus).

Turnovers are turnovers and there is no asterisk to qualify them as bad or good. But getting but one takeaway and wasting the opportunity, well, that wasn’t good. And it could have been the difference in the game.

34 Responses to “Turnovers Tell Story”

  1. unbelievable Says:

    2nd one didn’t matter and was meaningless.

    Still not a good game from JW.

    But the real Problem was Martin, right? I mean with all that stellar blocking from the o line… oh wait…

  2. DB55 Says:

    If Jameis hits ME along the sideline late in the 4th it’s a while new narrative

  3. Ray Rice Says:

    JW failed big time. FUUUUUUK Gosder. JW melted on the big stage.

  4. WeAreLost Says:

    Wait so its all Jameis fault? Not saying he did not play a sh*it game but the o line sucked a*shole all game so some fault has to be with them right?

  5. NJBucsFan Says:

    So JW can blame the O line but Martin can’t. I guess the O line made Winston head but a Dallas player while in the red zone.

  6. c-spann Says:

    the off came to play for half a quarter, even in that we still could have won. I am glad that we competed and didnt get rolled

  7. Strider ....Sec 147 Says:

    We thought jameis would have ME vJax and L.Murph ASJ but none of that worked even Kenny bell -_- licht gonna draft some studs soon

  8. Mtbucsfan Says:

    Suck it up root for Carolina tomorrow. I want to see the Cowgirls again with Dotson though!!

  9. Buc1987 Says:

    All of the Jameis haters want Jameis off the team so the Bucs can go back into irrelevance. They seem to think that the 8-6 record has nothing to do with him and want they want the Bucs to go back to 4-12’s and 2-16’s.

  10. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Please joe, tell me more about how Martin is the root of all of the Bucs problems. I know there will be 3 more stories here about how Martin is to blame. Him and his slow aging legs.

    Martin’s legs are so slow and weak that even if the o line did block someone, his feable pedestrian azz couldn’t get to it in time.

    How weird that it takes such a stellar athlete to run the ball when your o line is as dominating as ours is right now. A true mystery. And here i thought a eunnin back is only as good as his o line. Nope, running backs should be expected to break 4 tackles just to gain 3 yards. And if he wants to gain 20? Well better be prepared to carry all 11 defenders because they’ll be there.

  11. Buc1987 Says:

    With that and a typo I’m taking my drunk-ass to bed.

    Good Night!

  12. Lamarcus Says:

    Our right tackle told this story Joe

  13. Buc1987 Says:


    Good night…lol

  14. NJBucsFan Says:

    @87. Not sure it’s so much the Winston haters but the readers are tired of the midguided blame on other players but excuse making for Winston. I do. It want Winston off the team nor do I want Martin replaced. The Oline is the issue but if you asked th Joes it’s all Martin

  15. DB55 Says:

    It was a pretty exciting freaking game though, the def did their job and then some.

  16. Mojiska Says:

    The o line was the difference in this one. When winston had time he made good reads. He had an ugly fumble that resulted in 7, and a bad penalty that took us out of range for another 4. The 3 picks were not bad plays by him imo. The 2 or 3 overthrown passes were tho. He is good, is moving in the right direction, but needs to harness the emotion into positives, not allow that to get him off his game.

  17. DB55 Says:

    *outside of giving up 90% and 150+ on the ground.

  18. WeAreLost Says:

    That is the truth.

  19. unbelievable Says:

    Game was exiting but we played pretty poorly in the 1st half. Zeke just stomped It down our throats at will.

    Play calling in the 1st half was especially predictable and bad. And we mind as well have put another WR in instead of cherilus cuz that guy couldn’t block a wet tissue.

    But tomorrow we will get 3 more articles about how Doug has lost a step and that’s why we have no offensive rhythm. It’s not the playcalling. it’s not the o-line. It’s Doug. Right Joe?

  20. Buccfan37 Says:

    A Bucs win was within reach despite low offense on display throughout most of the game. A tough loss, have to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative. Have to play intense to win either of the remaining games. Go Buccs!

  21. unbelievable Says:


    Dak had the 2nd highest completion percentage in NFL history tonight. Did Lovie sneak into the booth and take out mike smith?

  22. LargoBuc Says:

    There is so much blame to go around for this one. It was Jameis. It was Martin. It was the o line. Upgrades are needed. A running back, a tackle, a receiver/tight end. That’s not even taking into account the defensive needs. Some size/strength at D tackle. A safety. A corner. It is what it is. We have made signifigant progress but are not quite ready for a deep playoff run. Yet. And all the Jameis trolls can kick rocks!

  23. J$Mac Says:

    This loss is definitely not on Winston, Martin, or McCoy because all three of these players played their fullest along with Mike Evans and that defense came up big when it counted. I put this one on Dirk Koetter coaching as he didn’t adjust that oline thru the week. He pretty much put a player who clearly is past his prime in position to fail. He does the same with Dotson too. I said we need to become more creative. Gosder Cherilus is past his prime and Doug Martin needs a Fullback in front of him to succeed. All I see being called is Single back formations and Shotgun formations that don’t include our best running backs. Two weeks in a row no help for old man Godsder Cherilus and the continued forcing of Chales “can’t get right” Sims into the lineup. What happened to Quiz running along with Doug Martin in the Shotgun formations that’s creative Dirk Koetter and Joe and still in reach to pull off this season for two more wins this season instead of forcing us with Charles Sims. I felt they should have left Sims on IR because he’s not a physical runner at all yet along fit to be a RB in the NFL. How about another found gem in Alan Cross. I feel Cross should be used as Fullback more to help open the run game up for Martin and hopefully Quiz can be called upon before Charles Sims. Let’s hang 10 Tampa!!! Go Bucs!! Win OUT….

  24. unbelievable Says:

    Running back is like 7th in the list.

    We need OL and DL badly. More than anything.
    We need a fast WR, a menacing S, and a bigger CB.
    Then we can worry about TE, and lastly a RB.

  25. SOEbuc Says:

    No Gosder Cherilus would’ve made a huge difference in this game.

  26. WeAreLost Says:

    unbelievable for poster of the year locked.

  27. DallasBuc Says:

    You can throw out the desperation INTs at the end of both halves. Turnovers were critical but let’s not make it an unnuanced stat argument. Bucs had the ball and a chance to win the game. Didn’t get it done. No excuses. There were only two critical turnovers and they had one. That was the difference

  28. adam from ny Says:

    bottom line is just get in the playoffs – most likely the 6th seed…and beat these cowgirls when we meet them again…don’t let them beat you twice!

    adam from ny

    this was a winnable game – we just played like crap

  29. German Buc Says:

    It’s a team game. You win together – you loose together. We lost in prime time against one of the best teams this season. Looking for someone to blame won’t help. So let’s be real fans and support our team. They need us in moments like this!

  30. richbucsfan Says:

    The Bucs just are not ready for prime time. Nothing to be ashamed of. They just don’t have the horses to run the race. Another couple of years and then, maybe. They are way too thin at skill positions and Oline. It is what it is. Should they make the playoffs ( a doubtful proposition) they will be one and done. Good experience for them and they will have broken the long string of losing. So, not all is lost.

  31. Defense Rules Says:

    richbucsfan … Ditto.

  32. JMicSoundsNice Says:

    Let’s not overreact, folks. To put this loss on another John Starks-like (read: streaky) performance by Jameis (which, if you change his jersey and skin color looked EXACTLY like a Matt Ryan performance circa late 2015), or the o-line, or Doug Martin (again) is to completely overlook the other glaring elements the factored into the loss.

    Dak Prescott set a record. Not just any record. His completion percentage was so high Lovie Smith is probably somewhere shaking his head. The defense got a few sacks and a few pressures, but Dak had all night to throw. And I’ll say this again for anyone willing to listen: our linebackers are probably the worst coverage linebackers in the league. Jason witten will be in the hall of fame, and has made countless defenders look silly. But last night, sadly, was child’s play for him.

    Was anyone screaming “Double David Irving!!!” at the TV as loud as I was? Not making an adjustment to an adjustment is borderline stupidity. Irving looked like Simeon Rice for the latter part of the game. By the time the coaching staff realized it, the offense was stuck in mud.

    I understand who and what Doug Martin is and has been to this team. Right now, he’s not the best option. Before he got injured, Jaquizz Rogers was doing damage behind this same raggedy line. This, again, boils down to coaching.

    I don’t give a damn about the playoffs. I just want to see us play a complete game.

  33. Tampa Tony Says:

    This is who Jameis is he’s only had 3 turnover free games all year. Turnovers and inaccurate throws are his common traits in the majority of games. The excuses from FSU fans who are happy he made them relevant again are getting old

  34. Cobraboy Says:

    Turnovers did not determine the game.

    Football is won at the LOS, and the Cowboys dominated both especially down the stretch.

    Miss Dotson much?