Down On Jameis

November 1st, 2016
Has serious questions about America.

Has serious doubts about America.

When America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, was carving up the Raiders in the first quarter, Joe remarked on Twitter it appeared Good Jameis showed up Sunday.

Premature jocularity.

Jameis pulled an ugly Halloween prank and turned into a pumpkin in the final three quarters and overtime.

Jameis completed a grand total of six passes after halftime in seven possessions. Six! That is Josh Freeman-like gruesome.

Jameis’ game has all but sealed the deal for Joe’s good friend “The Big Dog,” Steve Duemig of WDAE-AM 620. Until he is convinced otherwise, Duemig believes the Jameis on display in the second half Sunday is the Jameis the Bucs have made their beds with. Not only did Duemig suggest folks quit calling him a “franchise quarterback,” but that Jameis isn’t near the leader folks believe he is.

Duemig noted that a true leader would have driven the team down the field once in the many opportunities Jameis had — and won the game for the Bucs.

“You willing to spend the next 10 years with this guy?” Duemig asked. “Not me.”

You can hear Duemig’s full monologue below. And remember, the Hour, when Joe jumps into the steel cage with The Big Dog, is tomorrow at 5 p.m.

97 Responses to “Down On Jameis”

  1. tmaxcon Says:

    So let’s put everything on the offense and a 22″ year old 2nd year QB with One weapon and a oline that is really overrated both tackles are garbage. So again let’s give 100 million dollar fragile wuss a free pass because he can’t make a play nor make players around him better. Makes total sense slam the 2nd year guy and give the 7yr vet another free pass to the pansy arse smiling ice cream man and his merry band of quitters…

  2. TheBucsAnthem Says:



    …….Jamies………….mister AKA:

    – Throws High
    – Locks into receivers
    – Gets too excited and makes bad decisions

    People need to stop making excuses for him and start realizing we may have just drafted an average QB

  3. Armand Says:

    Funny how Jameis had no problem dropping bombs & 40 Td’s in one year, at FSU when he had receivers that could run and catch

  4. DevinfromNY Says:

    Jamies did not lose us that game, sure he didn’t play well. We have 1 legit passing threat in mike Evans who also isn’t very consistent at the moment. We have ZERO running game. Our offensive line as always is garbage, Ali Marpet is the only one who appears could start on another team. I’m not ready to declare a 22 year old 2nd year QB a bust because he is playing with Shane falcos replacement team. Also this defense is garbage….what happened to Lavonte he seems to be a shell of himself the past year and a half. GMC still can’t bring the pressure of 4 down lineman by himself…. expectations were WAY too high around this team last year. All in all still excited to go see me first game in Tampa Thursday night, I’ll be front row bucs sideline so I’ll be sure to let them know how I feel about their effort all game.

  5. Tampa Tony Says:

    Truth hurts. He’s not a franchise qb until he proves it. Outside of 2 games Jameis has looked just awful the only ones who don’t see that are FSU homers who love Jameis for making their school relevant again. Wake up Bucs fans!!! Stop making excuses for a garbage qb

  6. JL Says:

    Okay, let’s go back to Glennon then. James is the best thing that has happened to the Bucs. Sorround him with some weapons and let the kid grow. He is on the second year of his career and should be allowed to mature into a franchise quarterback. Let’s not act like there are a ton of quarterbacks out there ready to step in and put a team on their shoulders. Those comments put me down on Deumig.

  7. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    …but…but…but Josh Freeman was unfairly run outta town.

  8. ndog Says:

    This guy is the biggest *&^%^ on any radio station in any market in the country. Just having him on the air in the city makes us all seem bush league. Just listen to him for five minutes and you know he is clueless. Just yesterday when I got in my car and he was on from a previous show I heard him say “they (the Bucs) play the Cowboys right?” Does this guy even know who we play and does he not know there are things called computers where you can look this stuff up. I mean day after day he doesn’t know the simplest things. Like yeah play guys cause they were a high draft pick or make more money who cares about who is playing better. [edited for extensive hate. … why listen if you hate so much? –Joe]

  9. Chucklehead Says:

    Bucs have the right QB. This aint no movie. You cant visibly see the lights come on for these guys with dramatic music playing in the background. Gimme a break. All assets on the field need to carry their salt. I keep thinki g about how bad the game would have look had Oakland played a flag free game. Imagine how our D would have looked then.

    We just aint that good. Instead of expecting perfection, spend your time hoping we can steal a few and the guys can learn along the way.

  10. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    NO ONE is saying he’s a bust………

    ……but he’s not “lighting” it up

    -he’s inconsistent

    Dirk does not trust him 100%…..just look at the play calling




    The last game before half, Dirk didn’t want Jameis making a bad decision by turning it over and just retired to the second half….cause our run game was going NOWHERE…..

    ….you can tell Dirk is not trusting Jameis because JABOO has not shown he is consistent enough to be trusted by his HC.

  11. BigPoppaBuc Says:

    I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel on Winston… These next nine games are huge for him, though. We’ve seen the greatness and we’ve seen the ugly. The rest of the season we need to see consistency in one way or the other. This I where being a GM in this league is very tough. So let’s say Jameis doesn’t improve much the rest of the year. So you go and stock up on “weapons” that everyone is begging for. Then next year he stinks again. Now you’re stuck with expensive weapons and an O-line coming into it’s prime. As the GM you have to have a plan to replace Winston if he can’t produce wins by year 3.

  12. Matthew Says:

    Kid is 22, halfway thru his 2nd season in the league & in his first year of playing football year round. I’ll pass on the “little yappy dog’s” analysis as a QB guru; and stick with the folks paid to evaluate the talent. We don’t know what Jameis “will” or “won’t” become; but saying your ‘done with him’ while he throws to guys like Martino, Anton Smith, ect is beyond short-sighted. Look around the league and see how bad other team’s QB situations are, give Jameis the length of his rookie contract & let’s see where he is. He has definite places he needs to improve but we haven’t had a QB with his talent/potential ceiling in 20 years & I’m not about to abandon it because some blowhard wants to be the first one with the local “hot take” of Winston won’t be good.

  13. grafikdetail Says:

    never liked steve! he is the rush limbaugh of tampa sports radio in more ways than one

  14. gilhealy Says:

    Deumig hasn’t liked him from the jump. [edited for personal attacks.]

  15. ndog Says:

    Joe I listen to your show only, notice that comment I made about replacing players with high draft pick or big money. That came right from your show with him.

  16. D-Rome Says:

    Mr. Afternoon Drive-Time never wanted the Bucs to draft Jameis and he’s having his “I told you so” moment right now. While Mariota doesn’t have elite wide receivers he does have an elite TE and an elite RB. Mariota is also getting sacked less and hit less than Jameis. All of that helps a QB be successful.

    Jameis also seems to have been told to not run as much this season. Last year he had 18 first downs made on his feet. Mariota only had 10. This year Mariota has 11 first downs made on his feet while Jameis only has 4. I’m not suggesting Jameis should be a running QB but it seemed like he played with more instincts last year.

  17. old man says Says:

    Jameis is not the answer

  18. Buc1987 Says:

    Yes Steve 10 years.

    Pipe down.

  19. The Buc Realist Says:

    I think someone just like Marcus M and is trying to say ” this is the guy I wanted”!!!! But enough buffoonery around here!!!

    After Yesterday, I had to keep checking the final score!!!!! Because from some people it sounded like they were blown out by 40 by halftime lovie style!!!!!!!
    Instead a very good team had to go a full 5 quarters to win against a depleted Bucs Roster!!!!! There are holes on this roster!!! But we knew this before training camp!!! This year the test was for the offense to compete in the 4th quarter because the last 2 years, they were just collecting yards in garbage time!!!!!

    And if you want to start to ask why so off target in the second half!!! Maybe you should start asking how many hits our QB has to take so the one WR can bearly get open!!!!!

    And if you think all these weapons are getting open,,,,,then look at the YAC stats!!!! the Bucs Are 30th, because the WR/TE do not get open and when they do catch, they are tackled immediately!!!!!

    Its a big mess that they are cleaning up from the coach my scheme years!!!

    The Bucs will continue to build as they need to!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!

  20. DelawareBucsfan Says:

    Man this makes me sick how much everyone turns on Jamie’s so fast. It’s kind of like, most people can’t wait for him to mess up. This dude is the same guy who almost won rookie of the year. Sad man

  21. DelawareBucsfan Says:

    You blame a guy with no running back? One locked down, triple team reciever? No, you WONT sit here and pin this on this kid!

  22. 911bucs Says:

    Realist I commend you on your positivity but that game should have been a blow out if it were not for all the raiders penalties.

  23. Patrickbucs Says:

    @ Armand Says:
    November 1st, 2016 at 9:10 am
    Funny how Jameis had no problem dropping bombs & 40 Td’s in one year, at FSU when he had receivers that could run and catch.

    Are you freaking kidding me lol!! This is the NFL not college, you ever see Matt Leonard at USC or Tim Tebow at Florida? I watched Winston throw 4 picks in the first half against a great Gators defense. This unit College for gods sakes I wish people on this board would stop sticking up or putting down players because of their college affiliation. It dosent matter anymore.

    Also the excuse that we don’t have a running game? We have had over 100 or 200 now how many games in a row? Also look at the colts or Vikings offensive lines then the Bucs.. Jamie’s has had 2 really good games this year that’s it. Not one played well last game and they lost. You cannot continue to defend the QB though like it isn’t his fault.

  24. gilhealy Says:

    Realist, and Delaware- Exactly. Very immature takes on Jameis. Why this has to be thrown out so often is a shame. Put any QB you want in his situation and they’d all struggle. But, I guess it gives the bottom feeders something to gloat about.

  25. mike n Says:

    Is there a qb with a worse deep ball in the league… ugly. Evans gets open but forget about him hitting an open reciever. He can throw a jump ball or a back shoulder other than that he is so inaccurate that dirk can’t trust him and has to go with vanilla play calling. Jameis is great when the pocket breaks down and he has to improvise but man when it doesn’t… he just locks into one reciever.

  26. Buc1987 Says:

    ……..(‘(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)
    ……….”…\………. _.·´

    To the haters….

  27. lightningbuc Says:

    Pretty sure Hell has frozen over, as I agree with the Big Dog.

  28. Defense Rules Says:

    @Realist … “Its a big mess that they are cleaning up from the coach my scheme years!!!” Sorry Realist, but it goes a LOT deeper than that. Lovie was here TWO years, not the past TEN. Bucs have drafted poorly for many many years and have done a P-Poor job of developing the talent that they did draft (that’s pretty much guaranteed when you change coaches every 2 yrs).

  29. mike n Says:

    Not sure what deleware and gilh are talking about…. whats wrong with this situation? Pro bowl wr, effective TE, good slot, average to good run game most of the time, and went up against an oakland D that has been shelled a few times. WR are open and he can’t hit them. He locks into one reciever and is inaccurate. Yeah, Oakland has 2 prow bowl recievers but most teams don’t. He threw for like 80 yards in the last 4 quarters. Not hating on him but he is really struggling bc he is inaccurate. I don’t think anyone wants to get rid of him but he has to do better. Seems like the same people that were so excited to waste 2 picks on a kicker are now saying, we need to draft more weapons. Yes, it would be nice to have a bunch of recievers running open but got hit the one that are open first

  30. Defense Rules Says:

    Jameis Winston isn’t our problem … lack of depth is. Players go down with injuries all the time. Good teams find a way to overcome that. Mediocre teams .. NOT SO MUCH. Sad fact is that the 2016 Bucs are a mediocre team. Drafting a QB with only 2 yrs college experience with the #1 pick and making him your starting QB is a questionable move from my perspective (not as questionable as taking a kicker in the 2nd round though). Jameis needed time to mature. Now everyone’s upset that he’s not proving to be the one-man-band that our offense needs right now (lack of weapons is killing him because he has to be nearly perfect to compensate … and he’s simply not there yet).

  31. c-spann Says:

    JW didnt play a great game, however he did drive us down to take the lead in the 4th and got a 2 pt conversion, while playing a bad game! IMO the def is at fault, they couldnt get the stop they need to win the game after they took the lead. The coaches got out coached on off and def.

  32. BucFan20 Says:

    Quit crying cry babies. You jumped all over Glennon just as fast. In fact Faster!!

  33. tmaxcon Says:

    BigDog is just trying to stir up some interest in Dead industry formerly known as Radio…

    Jameis will go down as the must important and favorite buccaneer of all time. Buccaneer greats will be fighting with each other to drive Jameis’s float in the super bowl parades yes parades with an S…. It’s Mr. Winston to you BigDog….

  34. BucFan20 Says:

    And what did we hear??? Oh it is JUST EXCUSES!!!!

  35. passthebuc Says:

    Again, i think he will be just a slightly above average qb.

  36. Armand Says:

    Tampa Tony – FSU is always relevant and it’s the only relevant college football team in this state

  37. Bob in valrico Says:

    where we may be limited with quality recievers,the only thing to do in my book
    is sit some of them and bring in blockers to replace them.Its a formula that
    worked for Jake Delhomme and steve Smith over and over against us.
    Give Jameis more protection and see if he can improve his accuracy.We need
    60 minutes from Jameis.Team will not succeed with the amount of three and out drives we have been having.Jameis has not been Mr. Clutch this year very often.I expected much more from him this year.Still time to lead by example and make plays when team needs them.
    I want Jameis to succeed. Hit the open man Jameis,a lot of people are rooting for you.

  38. buccfan305 Says:

    What Buc1987 said!!!!

  39. buccfan305 Says:


    Salute to you my brother!!!

  40. Armand Says:

    Patrickbucs – I understand the difference between the pro’s and college. I am speaking of the pass and the catch. Winston was throwing to receiver who caught the ball, receivers who separated from coverage – two things which do not happen with frequency for the bucs

  41. Buc1987 Says:

    lightningbuc Says:

    “Pretty sure Hell has frozen over, as I agree with the Big Dog.”

    Pretty sure you NEVER liked Jameis and much of it has to do with him and that girl.

    Pretty sure you only come on this site if Jameis has a bad game.

    Pretty sure you have no credibility anymore when it comes to Jameis.

    Pretty sure you’ve turned into a major troll.

  42. LargoBuc Says:

    Im not ready to give up on Jameis yet. That’s just stupid. But it is obvious that he needs to play better or this could get bad real fast.

  43. Syl Says:

    I hope Jameis ignores these people. The best qb this guy ever saw was maybe Doug Williams who succeeded once he left. I wish Jameis pulled an Eli and refused to come to Tampa Bay. They have one receiver, and throws millions for a running back with injury issues, and keep a 33 year old wr with injury problems. They have a left tackle that is a turnstile, and had a chance of getting Tunsil. Jameis is the least of your worries. Get Joe Haden, and trade for a fast receiver.

  44. lightningbuc Says:


    It’ll be alright. There’s always next year for your Red Sox. I’m sure you’re happy the Patriots are doing so well.

  45. briandorry55 Says:

    Oh you mean the same guy who defended Josh Freeman until the bitter end, and beyond? Cool.

  46. evolvingBucfan Says:

    Joe it was your tweet that jinks the Bucs, nice job.

    I dont blame the bucs i blame Joe.

    p.s. Big Dog is very hard to listen to with his negative spin on anything and everything. if its not the team its the fans and so on and so on. he’ll find someone or something to b*tch about, i get enough of that at home.

  47. Clodhopper Says:

    Jameis is getting the same excuses Freeman got. Be nice if we had a QB that didn’t need so many excuses. Same old Bucs

  48. Chris Says:

    Not going to say anything , I’ll just keep on keeping on. Honestly, if he qb’ed at another university, no doubt, no doubt in my mind the fire under his ass would be a lot hotter than it is. Who was Trent Dilfers receivers? Anyone? Anyyone? Who was Vinny Testerverde’s????? We jumped their asses big time, because of some of the same characteristics we are seeing from our current franchise qb. Overthrows, locked on to one receiver, ints. Guess what, they went elsewhere, had good moments, but were never, ever franchise qbs no matter what team they went to. Now, let the hate begin in 5,4,3,2

  49. Chris Says:

    Friggin homer FSU town. Not Buc fans at all, just friggin FSU fans who pretend to be Buc fans cause they can still live their dream season of a few years ago through the Bucs.

  50. Nole&aBuc Says:

    I do not waste my time listening to the little puppy Duemig. When he speaks its just hot air belched from a cretin.

  51. tmaxcon Says:

    locked on to one receiver

    he only has 1 receiver sir!

    Jameis has not played well recently but he is hardly the reason the bucs lost sunday nor is he the biggest problem on the team that would honor would go to the smillin ice cream man.

  52. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Drew Brees shredded the Raiders for 423 yards, 4 TDS. Matt Ryan shredded the Raiders for 396 yards, 3 TDS. Jameis Winston held to 180 passing yards, 2 TDS including overtime. And the Raiders best CB ( Sean Smith) left the game after one play. We have a lonnnnnnngggggg way to go, if we’re going to compete in the NFC South. This is a pass-driven league, and we are one of the worst passing teams in the NFL. The Bucs can beat their chests after beating 1 win teams, but in order to be the best, you have to beat the best. And we haven’t done that in over a decade.

  53. Chris Says:

    I love the Doug Williams arguement. He won the Super Bowl, great game, but did not go on to a great career. He had one great game after Tampa. Couldn’t even beat out Mark Rypian for crying out loud

  54. Danthebucfan Says:

    You jinxed him. He was doing just fine until you tweeted. Don’t make us put your twitter account on lockdown during games.

  55. Chris Says:

    Geez Louise, look at tape. There’s been instances of Brate being open, Humphries being open and he locks on to Evans. Hell, Gruden pointed it out at his qb camp. He did the same thing in college. Homers, yeesh.

  56. Chris Says:

    Of course, I want to be like everyone else here, who thinks we need two all pro receivers, an all pro tight end, all pro rb , an entire all pro tight end. That way our qb can flourish

  57. Chris Says:

    Offensive line not tight end

  58. mike n Says:

    @tmax… not the biggest problem… lol. Qb is the most important postion. What does gmc being an underachiever mater to poor qb play? As bad as the d was, you gotta move the chains to keep the d off the field. The raiders are one of the best offenses in the league averaging 27 pts a game and we gave 24 to them ( the d also gave us a strip sack that gave us points).
    Brate , humphries and shep are open plenty.

  59. Syl Says:

    The last thing about Jameis. All of this whining about how bad he played. You had the lead, and your piss poor defense couldn’t stop the Raiders. Did you see how much turmoil Mack caused in the backfield? Did you see that hit Jameis took on that final touchdown.

  60. Evo Says:

    Joes….. SERIOUS question. Why do you even still do joe bucs fan hour with him? Why not add another podcast to your page and give us another thing to listen to on our morning drives? I’m almost to the point of not listening to the JBF hour just because I can’t stand hear him.

    The guy wanted Mariota and blocked anyone from texting or calling the show that brought up good points to drafting winston. (That’s inaccurate. –Joe) He barked on air for months how itd be a disaster and how he’d set our franchise back 10 years. But listen to the interview with

  61. Buccfan37 Says:

    Winston was overrated from the get go. This is not college ball FSU fans. Looking for Winston to change his game to much improved will be hit and miss without better talent all around. Mediocre Bucs, what else ain’t new? A team that somehow befuddles the home crowd with ineptness. If something can go wrong, damn straight that’s the storyline.

  62. Kobe Faker Says:

    Kobe getting tired of all this unjust praise of mike evans when he is only a above average reciever and not elite reciever whatsoever

    Me13 is absolutely fvking worthless in the first 10 yards. WORTHLESS!!!

    He cant catch a screen on the los or slant and rac to save his life

    Jameis needs players with this skillset * sims was playing and receiving we would have blown out oak and won few more games

    While we seen crabtree and cooper with these slants helping carr in this quick high probable consistent passing attack, our beloved god, mike evans cant do this to help jameis

    “I, Kobe Faker, will eat Steve Duemig underwear if mike evans catches a quick slant and run for 15 yards”

    How can he be even considered elite without this ability

    Mike evans is a 6’5″ desean jackson

  63. Evo Says:

    [deleted for personal attacks]

  64. JabooBuc Says:

    I love my home town of Tampa. However, nothing makes the sports scene in this town more bush league than the fact that this guy has a radio show and that anyone would care what he thinks. His credentials please?

    Look, Jameis can and will play better. He was picked #1 because of two reasons. First, he was a proven winner that showed tons of potential and skill in college. Second, the Bucs were the worst team in football with no stability at his position. The team as a whole was awful.

    He is 22 and in his 2nd year with very little talent around him. If your were expecting playoffs and setting the world on fire this year then I might suggest you are part of the problem around here.

  65. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Last season Matt Ryan had a lack of offensive weapons around him. The Falcons went out and signed WR Mohamed Sanu from the Bengals. They signed WR Aldrick Robinson from Washington, they claimed WR Taylor Gabriel off waivers, they drafted TE Austin Hooper from Stanford. They signed C Alex Mack from Cleveland, they signed QB Matt Schaub for depth. And what did our INCOMPETENT GM do for his QB. He signed a injured Guard for big bucks, he brought back a injured, aging WR for big bucks, he signed WR Cecil Shorts ( who have caught 1 pass) he signed WR Freddie Martino, WR Donteaa Dye. He held on to a drunkard TE ( who have since been released). And of course, he traded a 3rd and 4th for a kicker.The tales of 2 different GM’s.

  66. Kobe Faker Says:

    Lakeland dont forget

    Atlanta off coor shanahan is using the weapons to matt ryans STRENGTHS

    Our koetter the clown is using his run run pass playbook from his jacksonville maurice drew and david garrad days and not into jameis STRENGTH S

  67. DB55 Says:

    Chris Says:
    November 1st, 2016 at 10:53 am
    Of course, I want to be like everyone else here, who thinks we need two all pro receivers, an all pro tight end, all pro rb , an entire all pro tight end. That way our qb can flourish

    Funny thing is this may be exactly what Koetter needs to run his offense. It’s what he had in jax (I think) and in ATL (for sure).

  68. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    2day & 12hrs til – Jim Harbaugh watch 2017.

  69. Bucsfanman Says:

    Lets not sugarcoat it here fellas, Jameis sucked as bad as our pass rush Sunday. In fact, the whole team stunk out loud. If Oakland doesn’t commit 376 penalties for 8,000 yards they would’ve run away with that game laughing.
    Jameis is not there yet, face it. He’s a 22 year old QB that looks woefully average right now. Would more weapons help? It would be hard to say when passes are being thrown 5 yards over everybody’s head.
    We’ve got lots of work to do.

  70. J Says:

    The bucs had the lead with 3 minutes left in the game and it was the sorry defense that let them score. It was koetter who decided to run before half instead of going for more points and the gm for bringing the lack of talent Winston’s has to throw too.

  71. nate Says:


  72. 813bucboi Says:

    @REALIST….nice try….carr put up 513yards….that’s worse than lovie ever did while he was with the bucs….no way you can go this whole entire season blaming lovie….the raiders had 200yards in penalties, 513 yards passing, scored 30 points and won the game….how does that reflect on lovie?….that’s a direct reflection of smitty and dirk….your 2 boys dirk and smitty are incompetent coaches….GO BUCS!!!!

  73. 813bucboi Says:

    and nobodies talking about that penalty that was accepted by dirk….on 3rd down in the 4th quarter the raiders had a holding penalty…had we declined the penalty it would’ve been 4&14…instead dirk accepted the penalty making it 3&24….carr hit cooper for a 31 yard gain….that was in the 4th quarter with about 2:44 left in the game….that hic up led to the tying score…..but everyone wants to blame jameis and jude….no hold the coaches accountable…dirk f’ed up and smitty cant coach defense….it was a reason why no one called him for a job…now we see why….GO BUCS!!!!

  74. TB4LIFE Says:

    We had 2 possessions in OT and couldn’t even get a first down. I don’t expect to score every drive but at least move the ball, change field position, something. JW barely had 100 yds passing at half time while CARR threw for more yards than that in the 3rd quarter alone. Even with all the yards the defense gave up there were many opportunities to win the game and the offense couldn’t take advantage.

  75. Matthew Says:

    On the 2nd possession of OT, we gave the ball to Anton Smith 3 bleeping times. Two runs (including a fumble) & a third time via a pass route which while not a great pass, hit his hands & he dropped. Why in the bloody hell is a NFL franchise in OVERTIME calling the number of their 4th STRING RB 3 times in a row. Poor game planning, coaching, and offensive talent depth is why. Get mad at Jameis all you want but the ball needs to be in his hands with the game on the line, not our 4th string RB.

  76. Architek Says:

    I think some of you are hearing what you want and reading what you want.

    The question is – do you want 10 years of this and Big Dog said he doesn’t.

    That’s very simple and he provided his opinion on why he questions Jameis compared to his peers.

    At a very basic level it’s clear Jameis doesn’t look like the same leader and or qb as last year. His accuracy and his turnovers have spiraled in the wrong direction. Is he the answer no one knows but I have to admit Carr, Dak, and Wentz look surperior to Winston because of their accuaracy and ability to deliver the ball and win games in the NFL. Time will tell but this is looking very bad for the young QB of the future in Tampa.

  77. salish_seamonster Says:

    For the first time ever, I agree with dooshmig. Jameis is terrible.

  78. cmurda Says:

    Anybody questioning whether Jameis is our guy and whether or not he will be a franchise Qb is foolish. You may not be wrong but you are foolish to come to this conclusion in a young QB’s 2nd year while being surrounded by a grand total of 1 receiving option and an O Line that has allowed their Qb to take the most hits in the league.

  79. JabooBuc Says:

    I’m amazed at how dumb some people are. Dak is having a great rookie season. David Carr is having possibly an MVP year. What is the one big thing they have in common?

    ALL WORLD OLINES!!!! When you have time to throw in the NFL the world is your oyster. Jameis is playing behind an average line, working with 3rd and 4th string RB’s and one legit talent at receiver. Sorry, but I promise you if you put Brady on this team we would still have major problems.

  80. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Winston is going to be fine what is not gonna be fine is teh dunderbox LICHT that is running this franchise, this dim bulb had a chance to build the best OL in the NFL in what is now a pass happy league, but getting an undersized corner and a K were higher priorities, cmon man the blame is squarely on this mismanagement of the personnel of the bucs the last 8 years and licht you are just doing the same

  81. Evo Says:

    Joes now I gave you credit. But you delete my comments for personal attacks? What did I say that was a personal attack? That’s a bit extreme. And sorry again joes. but my previous statement was not inaccurate. I text from 6-9 with repeated mentions on air and the same thing with the show from 3-till. Multiple read text a day for on the when I could listen and contribute. I don’t think I’m a illiterate or belligerent fan. But I strongly disagreed with him personally attacking Jameis for the things he did as a twenty-year-old. I text him. WHEN the you draft him. Be man enough to say those things on air to his face.

    Reality is you wrote that he blocks all those who disagree and that is completely untrue. That is why your comments were edited. –Joe

  82. Evo Says:

    Joes now I gave you credit. But you delete my comments for personal attacks? What did I say that was a personal attack? That’s a bit extreme.

    Look, if you have to call an on-air personality by some sort of unflattering name other than his given name, or suggest he has a foul habit of some sort, that’s a personal attack. You are welcome to disagree with the host as much as you want all day long — civilly, as in “I think [the host] is wrong because… ”

    Joe does business with iHeart and there isn’t any business that would allow you to step foot on their premises and spout off nasty stuff about a business partner. This is no different. If you cannot understand that, Joe is sorry. — Joe

  83. Evo Says:

    Hit send by mistake on the phone. FEEL free to delete the shorter reply. Or all of it. It’s just the truth

  84. Patrickbucs Says:

    If you guys think our o-line is a big problem on this team you should look at some other teams lines. Our offensive line is very good, we have had mostly very effective games running the ball. Tough 2 do with a poor one. You have to throw the ball out of bounds sometimes and. It take a sack or a hit, defenses can make good plays as well.

    I would like to see Winston be more much consistent game to game you never know what you are going to get from him. He plays a lot of poor defenses from here on out just in our divisional opponents. We have dropped from 5th to like 22nd this year.

    Our defense has been up and down but mostly below average as well.

  85. Matthew Says:

    Did some people on here just claim Dak/Wentz are having AMAZING years; man it is truly amazing how people separate context from results. Both QBs, particularly these last three weeks where they’ve played “good defenses” have looked as bad if not worse than Winston in his rookie year.

    Dak just completed 48.7% of his passes vs Philly, all while having the best offensive line in the league, a pro bowl WR (Dez), a Hall of Fame TE (Witten), a good possession WR (Beasley) and current NFL leading rusher (Zeke Elliot) at his disposal. His deep balls primarily come off play action which works because teams have to account & stack the box vs Elliot. He’s been asked very little to lead a passing attack or play from behind.

    Carson Wentz looked good not great his first 4 games, he’s since looked like a rookie in his last three contests. They are giving him the “Mariotta” don’t lose it offense. Simple dink and dunk passes so he can complete a high % of his passes, but if you look at his attempts vs yards its really really pedestrian borderline pathetic. He doesn’t throw the ball down the field…at all. Now you can rightfully claim he has limited weapons ala Jameis; but his defense is vastly superior to Tampa’s, the main reason they’ve won many of their earlier games. Yards per play & Yards per pass Jameis & Wentz are nearly identical, hardly burying Jameis as some have claimed on this board.

    Jameis had Mike Evans, an average OL, Antone Smith, Cameron Brate, Martino, and Adam Humpheries.

    Jameis has to improve his accuracy, he’s hovering just below 60% right now, if he ends the season above 60% that’s improvement in the right direction. He’s got a positive TD to INT ratio 14 to 9 currently, which puts him on pace for 28/18 TD/INTs. 18 INTs isn’t acceptable but 10 more TDs than INTs is still a positive. If he can limit his INTs to below 15 on the year and get close to 30 TDs, you have to be a fool to think a QB who gets you 30TDs & 60% completion rate at only 22 doesn’t have a future in this league. So let’s stop hyperventilating on Jameis until the season ends and we get him some more weapons on offense.

    I’ll end my screed with a quick quiz:
    QB A’s Rookie Year 23 TD’s 18 INT’s 54% completion rate
    QB A’s 2nd Year 23 TD’s 9 INT’s 60% completion rate

    QB B’s Rookie Year 26 TD’s 28 INT’s 57% completion rate
    QB B’s 2nd Year 26 TD’s 15 INT’s 62% completion rate

    QB C’s Rookie Year 24 TD’s 17 INT’s 54% completion rate
    QB C’s 2nd Year 24 TD’s 18 INT’s 57% completion rate

    Jameis Rookie Year: 22 TD’s 15 INT’s 58.3% completion rate
    Jameis 2nd Year (on pace/in progress): 28 TD’s 18 INT’s 58.7% completion rate

    QB A: Andrew Luck
    QB B: Peyton Manning
    QB C: Eli Manning

    Patience Buc’s fans; no need to listen to the little dog yap.

  86. Bob sanders Says:

    I wish the average bucs fan knew literally anything about football, especially this radio nobody. This is like if a colts analyst said the biggest thing wrong was Andrew Luck. “We’re 3-5, better stop calling Luck a franchise QB, you want to be stuck with this Luck guy for 10 years? Not me” Dumb. The bucs have a first year head coach. A really bad defense. A bad line. No healthy RB. No TE threat. 1 decent reciever. And you all want to talk about jameis every week? Jameis is the only thing keeping this team from going 4-12 or probably much worse. Its called rebuilding, if you don’t like how long it’s taking then criticize coaching or the front office. Jameis is the best prospect the NFL has had in years, try watching some film. Go be a jags or fins fan they have more offensive talent, oh wait nevermind, they have actually bad QBs holding them back

  87. West Says:

    [Joe’s going to start running folks pretty soon who cannot comprehend the meaning of “personal attacks.” Some have to learn the hard way. What say you? — Joe]

  88. Doctor Stroud Says:

    I don’t have my glasses on and can’t see the photo very well: are Gisele Bundchen, Jeff Tedford, and Miko Grimes “down on Jameis”? I’m sure they each have their reasons…

  89. Pdog Says:

    FYI JOE—
    The only reason that any of us ever listen to Steve Duemig is because it is the only radio station in town that covers the Buccaneers 24 hours a day so we are forced to listen to Steve. He is rude and treats fans like trash.We don’t like him, we don’t want to hear him but we have no choice because the only option we have unfortunately is 620 on my drive home from work.

  90. Pdog Says:

    Oh yeah………EVO you are spot on…ppl are scared to tell the truth for fear of losing sponsorship…so sad Joe grow a pair please

  91. Boomer33 Says:

    Big Dog wanted us to draft Johnny Football. He never brings that up does he?

  92. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Duemig, like Joe, wanted to draft Manziel. Duemig liked Mariota over Winston, and Mariota has turned-out to be a one-read pony thus far. Winston isn’t without flaws either, but he’s working without a strong receiver crew (from WR to TE) and without the threat of a running game to help ease the burden in the passing game.

  93. Dislocatedbucsfan Says:

    People are quitting too early on the kid. It’s his second year, with no weapons. Has he played horrible? Absolutely. But give him some time folks. We won’t win many with out him.

    Go gators
    Go bucs

  94. Joe Says:

    Oh yeah………EVO you are spot on…ppl are scared to tell the truth for fear of losing sponsorship…so sad Joe grow a pair please

    Grow a pair? You going to grow a pair and cut Joe checks for lost revenue due to damaged relationships with sponsors?

    If you have such big balls, cough up the dough.

  95. Maze Says:

    This guy is such a joke. Taking him seriously loses all credibility. Lmao

  96. Maze Says:

    Chose your friends wisely

  97. Maze Says:

    Some posters on here clearly don’t understand football. Constantly making the worst comments ever 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Stop posting you are retarded