Koetter: “What Are These Guys Doing?

October 17th, 2016

dirk koetter 0716If Joe were running the new $25,000 Pyramid, this would qualify under “Things Lovie Smith Wouldn’t Say.”

The Bucs enjoyed a bye week last week, but Dirk Koetter was talking on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

In addition to his coaches’ self-scouting in their respective areas and submitting written reports for scrutiny, Koetter said he enjoys the opportunity to study other teams during the bye week. For Koetter, that’s not just about upcoming opponents. He’s talking about learning from teams with similar playbooks.

“The other thing about a bye week, it gives you a chance to look at other teams,” Koetter said. “You might look at some teams that are similar to you scheme-wise on offense or defense, or teams that maybe are off to a hot start. And maybe you say, ‘Hey, what are these guys doing? They’re converting 60 percent on third down and we’re converting less that than that. What are these guys doing?'”

What a refreshing, open-minded attitude. Koetter displayed this when he got the Bucs’ head coaching job and he has not relented.

33 Responses to “Koetter: “What Are These Guys Doing?”

  1. Patrick in VA Says:

    Part of the reason why this is the right guy to stick with and give him a chance to work through the situation we’re in. He’s got the right approach and I believe that he’ll right the ship.

  2. Bucsfanman Says:

    When you stop learning, you’ve stopped living!
    This team has a long way to go. We need to do WHATEVER it takes to get better.

  3. tmaxcon Says:


    nicely put sir…

  4. LargoBuc Says:

    This team needs patience more than anything right now. Unless Koetter completely spits the bed, I don’t think he will, we have to stick with this regime. The national out take last spring was Koetter was a “mistake” well screw you. You don’t know. You look from the outside and think you know more than us who live and (mostly) die with this team every Sunday. And there was no better choice than Koetter.

  5. Brian Says:

    Largo, dont tell the mental midget KobeFaker that. Koetter is refreshing as hell and going to have this thing turned around for sure. Will take more than ONE season to do it methinks.

  6. Patrick in VA Says:

    I honestly don’t think we’re collapsing quite the way that people make it out to be. Joe continues to paint the Panthers game as though we barely squeaked by a team that was beat up with injuries, consistently failing to account for the fact that we were also decimated by injuries at key positions.

    We were never a team that was built to withstand the loss of players that we’ve had. We just started getting a team that had starter level talent across the board. How long have we been operating with players in our starting lineup that couldn’t make another team?

    We’re getting it together now and we have real talent on the team, but it’s not surprising when we don’t look great when some of that thin talent base that we have gets injured. We’re getting there, but scrapping this thing and starting over in another coach’s image would be a huge mistake.

  7. Kobe Faker Says:

    Koetter the Clown can sure talk lol

    This clown couldnt see that sims wasnt a “run the gut “runner and gets him injured so that we cant use his true skills and weapons

    This clown planned to attack talib and harris while the other 2 off coordinators were attacking denvers linebackers pass coverage and denver is in a 2 game losing streak and exposed…wow

    this clowns roster evaluation and gameplanning sucks

    he cant juggle 2 positions and his playcalling is worse than last year

    the 2015 tampa bay ex bears has turned into 2016 tamp bay ex falcons…hahaaaa

  8. tmaxcon Says:

    Patrick in VA

    you are correct in your assessment. However, you can’t move forward when the SAME players are always hurt and more so when the same players are in KEY roles. Call it hate, negativity or whatever works for you but the bottom line is none of these players who are hurt now should have been a surprise. It should have been no surprise that vjax was going to fall off a cliff. Good teams and organization plan for surprises. No one in the right mind thought martin was going to have 2 injury free years back to back. He never has, before why now… no one should have thought this would be mcdonald’s first complete season at this stage of his career, McCoy not even going to address this in full but to say he is ALWAYS hurt and does not give a crap about winning when healthy is an understatement. 2 of the Fragile 3 DT’s were out by week 4… it should not be a surprise. It’s one thing to be an optimist but to gamble the way the bucs did at the DT, WR, SAFETY, and RB positions is bordering insanity. Yet year in and year out we here this is the insert name stays healthy or this is the year insert name has a breakout… that is the story of the last decade…

  9. LargoBuc Says:

    Kobe, how many different user names do you have on here? No really.

  10. Dave Says:

    He didn’t attack talib. They ran their offense and JW has not been very accurate under pressure off his back foot. Simple as that.
    As for Simms, he is not an out side runner either he isn’t fast enough. His best bet is in the tackles then breaking out. Unfortunately, he proved what I thought all along, he is a comlement to Doug and primarily a pass catcher, another reason why they absolutely had to sign Doug back and go get another good runner when he went down.
    If you can’t see that Dirk and JW tied together for the next several years is the best thing for this team since Gruden first getting here, then you’re ignorant.

  11. Dave Says:

    Besides, you have JW and Evans… you want them elite, you don’t shy away from any CB. Especially Talib. The issue is pass rush, not the CB.

  12. LargoBuc Says:

    Tmax, Sterling Shepard was RIGHT THERE for the taking. We took a kicker. We easily could have traded up for A’Shawn Robinson or Jarran Reed, the two beastly DT’s from ‘Bama. This was also on of the best drafts in recent memory for Safeties. We took a kicker. Oh yeah, Mackensie Alexander lasted into the late second. Guy may have been the best cover corner in the draft. Imagine him, VH3, Grimes and Jude. We got a kicker… Why do you hate me so?

  13. Stpetebucsfan Says:


    We know your hard on against GMC. The guy has AVERAGED just under nine sacks for the past three years straight…he could well reach that mark again.

    So again using your logic Rob Gronkowski should get dumped by the Pats. Guy misses a lot of games!

  14. Mojiska Says:

    This is a team with pieces in place, but needs more depth and consistency. Worst thing to do would blow up the coaching staff and go another direction without giving any scheme a chance. Our last 2 coaches never had time to allow their pieces to get in place. Schiano was playing with mostly rah’s pieces, lovie was playing with mostly Schiano’s pieces and now koetter is playing with mostly lovie pieces. I just want to see a coach with time to see their picture no matter who it is. We have seen koetter make mistakes with game management and scheme, but will he learn from those mistakes?

  15. Buc1987 Says:

    ^^^He’s got a point tmax.

  16. Chucklehead Says:

    Finding a way to finish that game last Monday is proof enough for me to see that we are starting to shake off the Lovie. Now, Im not saying we will be in every game from here on out. Its still a young team and there are some major steps to take. The sooner people drop the goal of playoffs for this year, the better. Just sit back and watch the team develope.

  17. tmaxcon Says:


    he is the king of meaningless first half sacks. he has led a defense that has QUIT and played with NO heart for 3 coaches and when he is not celebrating loses he is counseling players on how to loose with pride.

  18. Buccfan37 Says:

    tmaxcon… you have been writing that tune for some time now. I get it, you call it like you see it. Call it the Glennon-Murphy-Martin-GMC rag. Glad we have a resident expert textpert here to make us all aware of our silly opinions. Lighten up Francis.

  19. Chucklehead Says:


    Are you a Bucs fan or just someone wanting to see us fail?

  20. Chris Says:

    Rob Gronkowski is a difference maker. He can flat out dominate a game….. and Mccoys dominated???? Oh yeah the Falcons game the Falcons nearly came back on us on. And he’s been where, after? Oh yeah, he read his press clippings . Did we win without him? He’s not hungry to be the best, a lot of ability, but not enough desire . And let the McCoy lovers comense with the….. he’s an all pro , in 3,2,1

  21. Kobe Faker Says:

    hi dave

    koetters scheme and system is not QB friendly. his vertical downfield routes are time consumeing and unsuccessful with lack of protection and recievers who cant beat man coverage…The better defenses know how to beat koetters scheme now (with our present roster)

    imo the worst scheme for a young qb to start and develop

    i can tell you watch other games. the top offensive coordinators scheme is different than koetters

    with limited talent but get correct receivers with certain skillset, the top offensive coordinators use bunch sets, rub routes, legal picks and crossing pattern on different levels to get their recievers open which they cannot by themselves

    as you can tell i am a jameis homer. i knew all olong koetters system was flwed and terrible for jameis to learn from at the start. I wanted jameis to start at a gruden/josh mcdaniel/andy reid/ west coast offense to start his career

    once jameis was caught up to game speed by acquiring this quick out screen/los system the game would be in his palm of his hands

    jameis was born with accuracy and timing to throw to 20+ yards and the deeper routes if given time. with his learned quick out schemes he could have been playing cat and mouse with the best defensive coordinators

    **I also dont like these college coach QB coaches that we have hear. we need a 15year qb coach that taught the best superbowl qbs experience daily constantly taching jameis mechanics and thought process




  22. tmaxcon Says:


    i want the bucs to win and then I’ll gladly lighten up and enjoy a nice aged Jameson.

  23. Chris Says:

    Tmax, shhhhh they want happiness in their embracement of medeocrity, shhhhh

  24. Chris Says:

    McCoy= lovable loser,

  25. BucsFan90 Says:

    What is JR Sweezy doing? Thats what I wanna know. Netflix and chill?

  26. Kobe Faker Says:


    What is JR Sweezy doing?

    Ive heard Sweezy is in charge of the seattlefansintampa fan club

    He was jumping for joy with the seattle victory yesterday at his party

    “Atleast he was rooting against atlanta” Jason Gump

  27. Buc1987 Says:

    Lovie beat Rutgers this weekend.


    Man I sure wish Schiano went back and coached at Rutgers.

    Lovie vs Schiano bowl.

  28. unbelievable Says:

    Patrick in VA nailed it.

  29. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Tmax strikes again! Seems like tmax should be running a successful nfl team but instead…. Hes just an average guy like the rest of us.

  30. tmaxcon Says:


    dude I am in your head LOL…. Can’t a long suffering buc fan vent… the rosey optimist world view works for two of my fav posters st pete and tampaybaybucfan but does not work so well for me.

  31. shouldhavedraftedefiert Says:

    eh, dood you’ve been coaching for a million years you should know this stuff Koetter. I have no confidence this this guy as an HC.

  32. BucsFan90 Says:

    Lol Kobe

  33. KoetterTheDumbass Says:

    You are absolutely right Joe! I have been watching other teams. I am jotting down notes about this new “clock management” thing. And there’s this other thing teams do, it’s called “exposing mismatches”. What a concept!

    ~Coach K