Gag Artists
September 26th, 2016It resonated deeply with Joe last night — and still does — when Bucs coach Dirk Koetter stated there is a culture problem in the Bucs’ locker room.
America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, has also mentioned this twice on the record in his very young NFL career.
In so many words, Koetter and Jameis believe the locker room of the Bucs is full of losers. Given how the Bucs are elite at choking away leads and have won only 17 home games since the end of the Chucky era (2008), by far worst home record in the NFL, it’s difficult to argue otherwise.
Per a CBS graphic shown during the jughead Jags game yesterday, only one team has turned leads into projectile vomiting more than the Bucs since 2014. And that’s the Jags led by Gus Bradley, the worst NFL coach since Pearl Harbor.
Until or unless this is fixed, the Bucs will continue to be bungling.
September 26th, 2016 at 1:26 pm
How do rookie head coaches like Doug Pederson, Macadoo this year turn their culture around so quickly? Every year in the NFL there seems to be rookie head coaches who turn teams around quickly 2015 Todd Bowles and Dan Quinn both improved their teams. 2014 O’Brien and Zimmer improved their teams right away. In 2013 Arians (who Dominik) didn’t even interview got the cards to 10-6 his first year.
Other teams can have success with rookie head coaches just not the Bucs it F’ing sucks to root for this team year in and year out
September 26th, 2016 at 1:41 pm
Tampa Tony
And so you REALLY believe three games into a season you can say somebody has turned around a culture?
September 26th, 2016 at 1:42 pm
BTW Tony
Just for a little perspective. Remember last year when Quinn was another rookie coach like those you just described who “turned around the culture” of the Falcons.
Won first five games and he was anointed. It’s a long season Tony.
September 26th, 2016 at 1:47 pm
After 3 games I’d rather be 3-0 or 2-1
Quinn finished his first season 8-8 it’s improvement from the prior regime. I’m no ATL fan so I don’t care how they finished but looking at the records improvement is improvement
September 26th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
Imagine!
#SimpleAsThat
September 26th, 2016 at 2:09 pm
A good first step towards changing a culture might involve keeping a coach for more than two years.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:24 pm
Meanwhile the Bucs mountainous loss pile grows bigger. This team could win two out of three every year here on out and it would take decades to reach an overall .500 record.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:27 pm
Well said Tampa Chris…Please team Glazer, do not fire anyone this year. (or next for that matter) For the record, Lovie did have to go. Everyone, just take a deep breath.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:28 pm
Gus Bradley and Jeff Fisher are totally on board with this.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:33 pm
It’s the same old song every year, it’s just recorded by a different artist.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:35 pm
Continuity for the sake of continuity is insane. Keeping good continuity is smart. Gus Bradley and Fisher are prime examples of insane continuity. Good coaches don’t go 1-15, or win less than 6 games year after year.
I like Koetter and hope he works out, but if this crap continues you gotta make some changes to the staff.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:43 pm
Tampa Tony- The coaches you mention, look at the teams they coach. They inherited teams with much better talent.
There’s a reason this team was 2-14 and 6-10 and it wasn’t solely because of the scheme. There is a lot of work to be done for us to be a good football team. We have a solid nucleus and can build on it, that’s promising.
September 26th, 2016 at 2:47 pm
Bucs still tied for first in the division if the Saints win. Carolina is beatable of course so are the Bucs. Plus we are 2-2, didn’t Koetter say a division win on the road counts double
September 26th, 2016 at 3:00 pm
The 6-10 Bucs curb-stomped the Eagles last year in Philly. Just how much talent did/do the Eagles have? But they did hire a quality defensive coordinator (Jim Schwartz.)
September 26th, 2016 at 3:04 pm
Bucsfanman Says:
September 26th, 2016 at 2:43 pm
“There’s a reason this team was 2-14 and 6-10 and it wasn’t solely because of the scheme.”
And that reason’s name is DOM. There were 5 good players on this team when Licht stepped in the door. And one of them was so over compensated it was laughable.
Contending teams have at least 15-18 “good” players at starting positions. And “good” players are hard to come by. You either have to draft them or pay a lot for them in FA.
Who honestly believed that bringing in 2 solid free agents and drafting 2 good prospects would “fix” this “gagging” defense immediately? If you did – then you expected too much.
September 26th, 2016 at 3:35 pm
@Joe- More than the Bucs apparently!:)
September 26th, 2016 at 3:40 pm
way to throw your players under the bus dirk….dirk should have been able to turn this team around rather quickly since he was here last year and players bought in rather quickly….instead of talking about the players, talk about how you f’ed up the management of the clock…or how your dc isn’t doing his job…we had a losers mentality when schiano was here and while lovie was here but no one wanted to mention that….all everyone would mention is how the defense sucks and we don’t have the talent…news flash…its the same thing lovie battled with but no one gave him the benefit of the doubt….no one said give lovie time….this defense has regressed and looks worse than ever….coaches still not putting players in a position to win….GO BUCS!!!!
September 26th, 2016 at 4:18 pm
I said it yesterday and I will say it again.
The Bucs have a 100 million dollar leader who doesn’t care if they win or lose.
He has been called out by fans and by Winston himself.
POISON in the LOCKER ROOM….NO HEART
Look at the difference in the first game and the last two games and ask yourself what is different.
Maybe someone on the D Line who has some nasty and wants to win…
September 26th, 2016 at 4:36 pm
Hey, Joe! Gus Bradley and Jeff Fisher have had time to get their programs in place. They haven’t “lost the locker rooms” and by all accounts, they are good people. They aren’t winning though, so I wouldn’t argue if they get fired.
The Raheem to Schiano to Lovie to Koetter revolving door is a different story. These coaches were either in over their heads or made some bad decisions along the way — maybe they were crappy hires. Gus Bradley earned his shot and Fisher had a Super Bowl appearance.
Time will tell if we see some improvement. I guess losing 37-32 is a little more exciting than the 13-9 gut-kick losses we used to have.
September 26th, 2016 at 5:24 pm
The Defending NFL champs are rollin into Tampa come Sunday. Trust me, The Bucs culture will NOT..change this Sunday.
September 26th, 2016 at 5:32 pm
@mike johnson….I agree….remember when people were praising dirk and smitty before games were even played….crickets now….GO BUCS!!!!
September 26th, 2016 at 5:32 pm
I think this culture matter goes to the heart of the Bucs troubles over the past 3-4 years. Remember back in the days of Sapp and Dungy? You knew if the Bucs were 3-4 points ahead going into the 4th quarter that a win was all but guaranteed. Nowadays, when we have the lead the feeling is “what will they do to blow it?” Fans have that feeling, I’ll bet players do also. Think the Patriots expect to lose? They win, even with a second and third string QB. That doesn’t happen by chance. Say what you want about Belichek, he coaches to win.
September 26th, 2016 at 6:45 pm
Is this the same Joe that lampooned Mike Smith’s emphasis on culture in his book? Culture includes attitudes, values and behaviors, and it matters a lot.
September 26th, 2016 at 7:30 pm
I remember Joe mentioning that the league wanted the Bucs game early in the Rams schedule to give a boost to LA as they launch their new team. I watched the game hoping not see any silly calls to prove this. And it looks like the game was called OK. But I was there so I may have missed some.
Still, it looks like the league got their wish. The Rams won. So good call Joe.
I still want to puke, but good call.