Were Bucs “Too High” On Their Press Clippings?

September 18th, 2016
Dotson and other talk about poor preparation.

Demar Dotson and others talk about poor preparation.

Interesting takes coming from the Buccaneers’ locker room.

Dirk Koetter mentioned during his postgame news conference that the Bucs had a bad practice leading up to the chain-whipping at the hands of the Cardinals today in Arizona.

So Joe asked a few Bucs players about that and whether it represented anything meaningful. The consensus was yeah, the Bucs didn’t prepare for this game properly.

“I think we just put too much into a win,” Demar Dotson said. “You know, we had a lot of people praising us over the Atlanta game, over one game. And I think maybe that maybe we just had too much praise over one win. It’s just one game. That’s the highs and lows in the NFL. We can get too high over a win, or get too low.

“And I think we got too high over a win. And we got humbled real quick.”

Center Joe Hawley acknowledged the Bucs weren’t primed to beat the Cardinals.

“A lot of times you win the game before you go out there with your preparation, and we did have a lackluster kind of practice this week,” Hawley said.

“So we need to know as a team we need to put the work in during the week and come better prepared for the games and not make those mistakes that we made.”

Newcomer wide receiver Cecil Shorts also said the Bucs didn’t “have a good practice week. Period.”

“Those things happen,” said Shorts who played for the AFC South champion Texans last year, but “good teams don’t have many bad practices.”

38 Responses to “Were Bucs “Too High” On Their Press Clippings?”

  1. Tampa Tony Says:

    With a “franchise” QB who is awful in practice how do you expect it to get better? I’ve always been worried by the way Jameis supposedly “test” things out in practice but still has these long stretches of inaccurate throws.

    Very curious to see how this team bounces back

  2. D-Rome Says:

    In 2015 if the players said the Bucs didn’t have a good week at practice people would blame coaching. Never heard any player say that last year.

    Go Bucs!

  3. RumRunner Says:

    They are who they thought they were…..

  4. Scurvy Dogs Says:

    We will see what these guys are made of now.

  5. Ndog Says:

    Drome you can always cheer for Illinois. In fact please do.

  6. I'm tired and 87 is right Says:

    Hold your heads up Bucs fans… our days are soon to come!

  7. This Guy Right Here Says:

    Listening to DAE all week, you woulda thought we just won a wild card… Those mother flippers need to tone it down some… we’re growing, we’re gettin there. Just calm down you kunts.

  8. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    How do you know Jameis is awful in practice? How many have you attended? I bet I’ve been to more than you, and he is anything but bad in practice. Are you one of those guys that base your information off of what you read? If so, you may want to change your source, because I’ve both witnessed in person and read totally different. But go ahead and let the pile on continue.

  9. LifeOfABucFan Says:

    Well said Hawaiian!!!

  10. University of Seffner Says:

    The good news is, there’s plenty of more football ahead.

  11. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    It’s disappointing we didn’t have a good week of practice, but not surprising in the least. We had an impressive division win on the road, our QB looked like a MVP candidate, our defense looked improved, and people were starting to pay attention to us. This is all new for us, and we apparently didn’t handle it well. They will learn from this. We weren’t going to beat this team no matter what, but at least we will know that we can’t just show up and win games. We will come back and win some games. People just need to temper their expectations. We will have moments where we look like a legit playoff team, and we will have others that looks like Lovie is coaching us. All part of the process.

  12. BucFan20 Says:

    Good old Dotson. Right back to his old yellow flag ways. Hands to the face, tripping, false start, you name it he is going to do it.

  13. Tom Edrington Says:

    Boy, what a crappy weekend for Nole On Saturday, Buc On Sunday!

  14. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “Good old Dotson. Right back to his old yellow flag ways. Hands to the face, tripping, false start, you name it he is going to do it.”


    Yeah, his one penalty really did us in today. It’s all his fault. SMDH

  15. tmaxcon Says:


    Come on… Dotson was hardly the reason the bucs lost but there is no denying he is a penalty machine.

  16. Stpetebucsfan Says:


    You seem to be reading my mind tonight. Just great perspective.

    There are so many great posters here that I do not wish to begin naming them for fear of leaving someone out.

    But we also have some real losers here and also some garden variety trolls as in simply trolling for attention.

    Here is what I’m hoping and what I believe. That this team has far more heart than some of you fair weather fans…some of you negative nellies.

    It’s the NFL. They pay the other team as well. Sometimes you can’t catch a break but these things even out over the course of a year.

  17. Defense Rules Says:

    Been interesting reading various comments after today’s game. Admittedly I thought the Bucs would be much better prepared than they obviously were. I was disappointed in the offense and disappointed in the defense. Not at all impressed by the play-calling on either side of the ball, and certainly wasn’t impressed by our players’ performance. Nobody lit the fire … not Jameis, not ME13, not GMC, not Kwon … nobody. All I saw all day was very uninspired football. Evidence? An old-fashioned 40-7 butt whoopin’. But it’s still just one game, and I’m glad that it happened early in the season. Today’s lesson will stay with these guys all season long I’d bet.

  18. BucFan20 Says:

    Shake it all you want. That is his pattern. I know your memory is short. He was the leader in penalties 2 years ago I think it was. Nobody said it cost us today. But look where it happened!

  19. Doctor Stroud Says:

    We found out that winning a big first game boosted the team’s confidence too much, but I don’t want to see the team go the other way and let a big loss hurt their confidence either. Let’s just diagnose this loss as a case of collective and temporary proprioception, move on, and focus on our arch nemesis: the Rams. Will we ever really pay them back for the NFC Championship games from 1980 and 1999?

  20. LargoBuc Says:

    This team was out matched. Our receivers were out played. Our d line, our secondary. The only “win” was our o line pass protection. The Cards are the better team. The team did look a bit flat, but it’s hard not to be being out matched to the extent they were.
    What was really alarming was just how out of sync the offense was. Nobody was on the same page. That’s something Koetter has to address and fix.

  21. Tampa Tony Says:


    If your moniker is any indication I’m pretty sure I’ve been to more practices than you. Especially as a season pass member we get into more closed practices than most.

    Winston has been reported by the media to take more chances and test his limits in practice. Even Koetter has stated how bad he looked in practice last year. In camp he was a very up and down player. It’s one of the main reasons smart and logical Bucs fans don’t think of him as a franchise QB.

    He’s too inconsistent as of now

  22. BigStinky Says:

    Jameis needs short passes early in games to get in a groove. Otherwise he is NOT very accurate, like his first INT to ME13. How many 4 INT games is he going to have before he learns to take care of the football? He CANNOT keep giving teams 7 points every week, or at least 10 like he did today. Franchise QB’s usually don’t throw 4 INT’s in a game, I’m just saying.

  23. Hawaiian Buc Says:


    I live in Tampa, and am also a season pass member. If you don’t think he’s a franchise QB, you are in a very small minority. Argue that all you want.

  24. BigHogHaynes Says:

    Uninspired football, that what I’ve heard here before! It’s all LOVIE’S fault…..but he ain’t here, he’s taking his whipping in the corn fields! 14 games to play 8 more games to win!

  25. Tampa Tony Says:


    It’s 18 games in. I’m not sold enough to annoint him a Franchise QB but I don’t think he’s not either. Jury is still out. After games like today and being wildly inaccurate I’m not sure how anyone can say 100% that he’s a franchise guy.

  26. SOEbuc Says:

    We straight up got our asses kicked. Glad this humbling situation happened between week 1 and 2 though. Now all players and coaches know we have to be money in the film room on the practice field and on game day every week. Cant let these injuries kick our ass though

  27. Chris Says:

    I agree Tony. We ran Glennon off for far less. If this is who he is, he’s not franchise. He’s not learned to take care of the ball. The deep shots were not there today, the one drive where he started screening to Humphries we gain yardage. The DBs were step for step with ME. He’s the same QB he was his last year at FSU, except here, you start slow and throw pics, you get buggy whipped.

  28. I'm tired and 87 is right Says:

    Tampa Tony I’m pretty sure you don’t know what it takes to be a great QB in this league. In fact nor do I. I and most fans will say we are excitied to watch this team play. Anything is possible. Jameis has the skill set and heart to take us far. Have some faith. We all knew we would lose this game and unfortunately nothing went our way so we looked really bad. Let’s just pray known of these injuries are serious because yes we lack depth. This isn’t our first rodeo. Please review the start of our Super bowl year. Get loud Bucs fans, and get mean, take a page out of the old Arian’s book and un leash the fire! Go Bucs! Siege the Days ahead!

  29. Mike Johnson Says:

    Nope. The Bucs were not smelling themselves. Rather..they ran up against a top tier NFL team who schooled them, hurt them, and showed them..what it takes to be in the hunt. That ladies and Gents was an A.. whipping plain and simple. Embarrassing to say the least. I actually saw AZ fans laughing at us. Butt..there is next week. Rams in the da house. And they do play some hellava Defense. Winnable game. Hope Martin is back for our sake.

  30. Tampa Tony Says:

    Well Glennon was run off for being a gutless giraffe who’d rather run out of bounds to protect himself rather than keep a drive alive. His accuracy and pocket awareness were boderline pathetic and he refused to push the ball down the field. He was definitely not the answer.

    Jury is still out on Jameis though. You’d think as a second year Pro these type of games would be behind him.

  31. Chris Armstrong Says:

    Wow. Hearing these dbags in here after a loss is almost enough to not read these articles. I’d be hard pressed to find a legitimate fan that doesn’t feel Winston is the Franchise QB. He runs DK’s playbook, and what that playbook highlights is explosive, deep ball plays. They are very dangerous and require a great arm, timing, and really good receiving hand skills. You don’t see Brady(insert Brady not playing joke), or any other star QB throwing deep balls all over the place as much as Dirk wants Winston to. He has to learn and it’s not a quick thing, but it is a three headed monster. They will make mistakes, and they will make outstanding plays. Nobody gives a damn about people who don’t support their team. Stop acting like he works for you and enjoy the game of football.

  32. LifeOfABucFan Says:

    This @ Chris Armstrong


    Wow, I thought we had weeded out all the fragile ones (mariota) fans. JW3 isn’t a franchise qb? U might want to check into a mental institution. 1 bad game with 4 picks (1 @ the end I’m not worried about and the deep ball to ME13 was PERFECT) And now he’s trash? GTFOH. I here they have a titans site up now, go check it out

  34. Tampa Tony Says:


    You might wanna slow your roll, 18 games only 7 wins. How many games has Winston had with multiple turnovers? I’m basing my analysis off not just this game but his poor performance the last 4 games of 2015.

    Again I’m not saying he is or isn’t a franchise QB. Just saying after 18 games the jury is still out and he needs to prove he’s got it. He’s a very up and down young player right now. Still too early for me. Either way we are all here complaining because, we ar Bucs fans.

  35. Tampa Tony Says:

    Today was his 6th multi turnover game in 18 starts. With all the hype Winston gets on this site we have to remember he is still a work in progress


    I seem to remember some guy named Brett Favre and I think he threw ALOT of picks. I think he might have been a franchise qb. This guy named Payton Manning only won 2 games his rookie season and threw a lot of picks. So no sir I think YOU need to slow Ur roll.

  37. pick6 Says:

    with all the exuberance after the game, i couldn’t help but think about last year’s eagles game where we carved up a bad team and Jameis threw TDs to half the roster. There was all kinds of buzz that the bucs were turning a corner and had played a complete football game…and then they went and laid an egg to matt hasselbeck’s colts. Hope they reflect on this beating and are better for it throughout this season.

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