Jameis’ Chemistry Obsession Dooms Kenny Bell
August 14th, 2016
Yesterday, America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, talked about his receiving corps on SiriusXM NFL Radio.
For those closely tracking the receivers depth chart, there was a lot to soak in.
First, co-host Pat Kirwan asked Jameis to talk about the impressive unknown receivers on his team that Kirwan studied in practice. Kirwan noted Adam Humphries and Shepard. But Jameis interrupted him and made sure to add the name “Donteea Dye.”
Jameis went on to talk about Humphries, Shepard and Dye. Usually inclusive of his entire receiving corps, Jameis didn’t include anyone else.
Also, Jameis referenced the chemistry and trust gained from Humphries and Dye being starters at times last year.
Repeatedly through the interview, Jameis referenced “chemistry.” He believes in it deeply, as does Dirk Koetter.
That’s a big reason why Joe never had any belief that Austin Seferian-Jenkins had any real shot to be ahead of Cameron Brate among the tight ends. And it’s also a big reason why Joe never had any belief that Kenny Bell would be a significant factor this season. There’s no chemistry or trust between Bell and Jameis.
“Even if a [defensive back] is playing good on a [receiver], you can’t really cover an anticipated throw, and chemistry, timing and accuracy,” Jameis said during a discussion of improving his rhythm.
As Joe wrote a few hours after Thursday’s Bucs-Eagles game, Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson, Adam Humphries, Russell Shepard and Donteea Dye is your pecking order at wide receiver, with Louis Murphy healing in the background.
Barring injury, a wise acquisition of a veteran receiver, or a truly stunning breakout performance by another Bucs receiver, that’s your opening day depth chart.
August 14th, 2016 at 10:38 am
So Dye is no longer CFL material?
Absolutely he’s CFL material, but Joe is neither the coach nor the GM. –Joe
August 14th, 2016 at 10:42 am
Winston won’t call anyone out, but he won’t include your name if you’re not worthy just to be nice. If he ain’t talking about you, you better be worried.
August 14th, 2016 at 10:54 am
See tmax, HEY you can’t count Murphy out, although once a receiver has a significant injury and recovery the likelihood of a recurring same injury goes up.
August 14th, 2016 at 11:34 am
Although I am growing very skeptical of Bell being able to create that chemistry between him and James, there still time. It could easily happen just like that in week 3 preseason. Once you work at something hard enough it will suddenly click, snap into place. It’s possible and I hope it does by pre seasons we 3. I will be disappointed if it doesnt work out for Bell, because the talent is there, someone just needs to punch his helmet a couple times and push him around a little before he takes the field. Get him a little angry. Once he mans up it will happen!
August 14th, 2016 at 11:37 am
Misplaced Calgary Stampeder my a$$ Joe. I’m pretty sure DD will make you eat crow this year with 300+ receiving yards(after VJax eventually gets hurt). This is because he looks like our fastest receiver.
August 14th, 2016 at 11:41 am
The thing I see about Jameis, he wants teammates that are hungry. Willing to work, incredibly, almost sickeningly hard. Wanting to win. ASJ hasn’t fallen into that realm yet. It looks like Evans has bought in. Bell, as much as I want every buc to be successful just hasn’t produced.
August 14th, 2016 at 12:11 pm
I’m still not sure about Bell, I watched him closely the other night and outside of the horrible special teams fumble it was hard to gauge how good he was or wasn’t because I thought the QB play wasn’t very good after Jameis left the game. I saw him open a couple times but he either didn’t get the ball or it was a bad pass.
August 14th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
I’m one who will let all the opportunities be exhausted before I call a player in or out….but, I do agree with Joe that this is the order at this point.
Jameis would have a lot to say about it and could likely include or exclude a WR….but, Jameis wouldn’t do that just for a friend….he would have to be convinced it was right.
Let’s see what happens with Bell….I still don’t count Krause out yet either. Murphy….well Murphy may never make it back……I think we can only put one player on the PUP and that will be Sweezy.
August 14th, 2016 at 12:21 pm
I would have preferred a Joey Galloway burner somewhere in the group but we’ll have to take our big plays from wherever…perhaps Sims…at least VJAX and ME are big men who should get some YAC.
I’m just wondering who on our team has safeties even considering a deep threat. Opposing safeties are not exactly going to be back on their heels and if they start crowding the box to jam Doug I hope Koetter has some medicine for them.
August 14th, 2016 at 12:54 pm
Why would bringing in a veteran wr be good? Apparently chemistry is all that matters to be a part of our WR corps. A new WR would have zero chemistry with Jameis. Kenny Bell has more chemistry with Jameis than any free agent.
😉
August 14th, 2016 at 1:02 pm
Theirs some credence to what 22 just said..
August 14th, 2016 at 1:35 pm
Kenny Bell will be managing a….Church’s fried chicken come September,
August 14th, 2016 at 2:00 pm
Dag MJ low blow bro.
August 14th, 2016 at 2:23 pm
I’ll bet MJ will be one of Kenny’s best customers…..
August 14th, 2016 at 2:25 pm
If Louis Murphy starts on PUP, it will open a spot temporarily at least.
I never felt Bell would do well as WR. His specialty is kick returns, and I feel he got robbed when he wasn’t given another shot at it.
Bell was not the only one to turn the ball over, and everyone else who did kept playing at the position they did it in.
Bell should have been given more of a chance at KR. Period.
August 14th, 2016 at 2:26 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo thins Kenny Bell doesn’t have to become a Publix asst. Mgr…..or UPS driver or Insurance Adjuster……there is room for Kenny and his wild hair….table dancing……although Pablo doesn’t think Kenny has the elongated arc like Pablo and Haboo”
August 14th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
What about Louis Murphy???
August 14th, 2016 at 2:56 pm
Joe has foreshadowed this Kenny Bell mirage for a while now…sure looks like he’s on to something. Looking back…the fact that they basically red-shirted him last year was the first clue of many that Bell probably wasn’t cut out for the NFL. Eighteen different receivers caught a pass on Thursday night…and Bell wasn’t one of them. Practice squad at best I’m thinking…
August 14th, 2016 at 3:24 pm
Obligatory daily reminder Joe doesnt like my Boy Kenny Bell.. Im gonna concede some ground to you Joe Dye has been running crisp this offseason, but those hands just arent what we need at receiver, how long before those hands show up on special teams? We may see next week!
August 14th, 2016 at 3:34 pm
Tend to think it wasn’t Jameis’ obsession with chemistry that doomed Kenny Bell. It was Kenny Bell who doomed Kenny Bell when he apparently forgot how to catch the ball or hold onto it. The functional word in Wide Receiver is not Wide. It’s Receiver.
August 14th, 2016 at 4:00 pm
Yawn there are plenty more chances for bell to shine but time is running out
August 14th, 2016 at 4:01 pm
I will say it for the umpteenth time. A great QB can make an average WR look great. Fun times coming up guys!!
August 14th, 2016 at 4:08 pm
What about marques colston on the low??? Chance to play for a division rival of the team that dropped you. He would be a great backup for vjax or evans. Perfext replacement
August 14th, 2016 at 4:26 pm
That order sounds right. I’m kind of disappointed in the gm. I think he should have made it a priority to add a wr this offseason. That just too mama my questions to go into a season. Right now with Murphy hurt none of our guys 3-5 has ever caught more than 25 balls in a season… That’s leaving a young qb out to dry..
August 14th, 2016 at 5:08 pm
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August 14th, 2016 at 5:13 pm
Joe heres what I seen during film study:
The play in between Kenny Bell’s penalties(d&o)he laid a block on the S Watkins and flattened that fool. When Bell wasn’t beating his man he was blocking down field and doing a good job for a lil dude. I had a Michael Clayton flashback because he was a excellent blocker with the same number. He looked stout to me but maybe I don’t know football.
Vitale needs to be the starting lead blocker for the RB’s. I heard at least 3 cracks of loud pads when he laid blocks on philly players. He not afraid of the contact plus he looked strong out there. Stocker got threw to the side by Malcolm Jenkins on Doug’s TD run last year in philly. Go watch the tape Puke Stocker is no blocker.
ASJ was man handling dudes out there so if we don’t get these 3 players out there at one time the run could suffer. Taylor Fallin and Josh Allen are not ready move Hale and Palmer up on the depth chart. Channing Ward is a freaking Monster he was throwing 300lber out of his way. Keep him! Francis has quick feet for a big dude. Lambert has a nice pass rush for a DT. Elliot is a lil CB but he packs a punch. Johnson would of got futher on his int if Ryan would of hit something. Smith looked afraid. Rhodes looked good against the run but suspect in coverage. DD is faster then I thought. Him Adam and Reedy can make a defense sick. All that quickness in space is making me dizzy. I’m going back in the class room now to watch more film. Later!
August 14th, 2016 at 5:29 pm
JonBuc Says
“Joe has foreshadowed this Kenny Bell mirage for a while now…sure looks like he’s on to something. Looking back…the fact that they basically red-shirted him last year was the first clue of many that Bell probably wasn’t cut out for the NFL. Eighteen different receivers caught a pass on Thursday night…and Bell wasn’t one of them.”
He was placed on Injured Reserve in the preseason last year. That’s why he did not play.
August 14th, 2016 at 5:33 pm
Sacbuc$ Says
“Vitale needs to be the starting lead blocker for the RB’s. I heard at least 3 cracks of loud pads when he laid blocks on philly players. He not afraid of the contact plus he looked strong out there.”
I noticed that too. Considering people around here claim Vitale cannot run block, pass block or run the ball, he was doing two out of three pretty well Thursday.
I saw in one instance, 4th & 1, Vitale lead blocked for Storm Johnson, opening up a nice hole. Except Johnson did not follow his blocker. He ran to the right instead, and did not get the first down as a result.
At the very least, if Vitale keeps playing so well, he should replace Stocker. Personally, I want to see him run the ball on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1, at least during the preseason. Just to gauge the possibilities.
August 14th, 2016 at 5:34 pm
If we don’t put Evan Smith in at guard Pamphile is gonna get Famous killed. He not ready. Just until Sweezy get ready. Hopefully!
August 14th, 2016 at 5:36 pm
Agreed 100 Bonzai
August 14th, 2016 at 6:34 pm
Gator, I’m in, baby!!!
August 14th, 2016 at 6:48 pm
Sacbuc$, no. Pamphile did fine he was beaten pretty bad by Fletcher Cox on the strip sack but that’s Fletcher Cox…Evan Smith looks fat and lazy.
August 14th, 2016 at 6:48 pm
SB with Jameis…I must be a total moron. After staring at the screen for 10 minutes I still can’t figure out how to sign up.
August 14th, 2016 at 6:54 pm
87, I screwed it up the first time! Lol! I still might not have it right!
August 14th, 2016 at 6:57 pm
87, when you get to the part where it shows your entry as espn and then a crap load of numbers after it, change that to your username Buc87
August 14th, 2016 at 6:59 pm
87, the first time I signed up I didn’t realize that would be my name. I had to go back and change it. That sucked!
August 14th, 2016 at 7:10 pm
Pfff I just saw someone just signed up and I still don’t get it. I even created an ESPN account and everything. Still don’t see where I’m able to change numbers to a name or anything at all. Or anywhere to click to enter in a name. So I’ll just forget about it. Never mind my man. Too much hassle for me apparently. I just remain an idiot I guess.
August 14th, 2016 at 7:14 pm
@buc1987
did you verify by email that espn sent you???
August 14th, 2016 at 7:29 pm
I got it now. Sorry Joe, I know it’s not a message board.
August 14th, 2016 at 7:32 pm
Although Kenny bell was placed on IR. I read at the time that it was not really a season ending injury .the Bucs also did it to protect him. He would not of
made the team otherwise.
August 14th, 2016 at 8:02 pm
Not doomed yet. Dirk pointed out the fact he was getting open but didn’t get the ball. I would imagine he’ll get chances in the next 2 games. We’ll see. It’s not too late, by any means.
August 14th, 2016 at 8:12 pm
Yeah I Saw that Eric………I Totally look forward to Kicking your Ass!!!
August 14th, 2016 at 8:15 pm
Holly Cow 87….. Sorry you had so much trouble. Glad to see Im not the only internet challenged person here. LOL. Welcome aboard!
August 14th, 2016 at 9:08 pm
HOLY SNAP!!! We now have 31 Bucs Fans in the JoeBucsFan (America’s Writer) Pickem League!!! Sweet. C’mon and join Joe. This isn’t fantasy. Just picks.
August 14th, 2016 at 11:03 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
August 14th, 2016 at 5:29 pm
JonBuc Says
“Joe has foreshadowed this Kenny Bell mirage for a while now…sure looks like he’s on to something. Looking back…the fact that they basically red-shirted him last year was the first clue of many that Bell probably wasn’t cut out for the NFL. Eighteen different receivers caught a pass on Thursday night…and Bell wasn’t one of them.”
He was placed on Injured Reserve in the preseason last year. That’s why he did not play.
There’s my boy Buccaneer Browneye taking a break from writing elf erotica to drop his knowledge on us all…sure if have missed him. I realize Bell was placed on IR very early on in the preseason for a “hamstring”. Unless it was torn off the bone…there wasn’t a reason to shelve him for the year.
August 15th, 2016 at 12:14 am
Bell has 3 more games and a dozen more practices to show his worth and make this team. I believe his talent will prevail and he will start making plays and showing why the hope and hype by so many ever since he’s been drafted is legit.
Or not – in which case he will probably be assigned to the practice squad if some other team doesn’t take a chance on him and claim him off waivers.
Still pulling for this young man to succeed and be a valuable asset for the Bucs. His College tape says he has the talent. But many who play well in College cannot translate that to the next level. So we’ll have to see if Bell can buck the odds and “make it” as a 5th round pick.
August 15th, 2016 at 2:52 am
You would think Jameis and Kenny Bell would have better chemistry considering they were roommates last year. What happened?
August 15th, 2016 at 7:00 am
Amazing you catch 20 balls and now you are irreplaceable my Bucs!
August 15th, 2016 at 7:07 am
Jameis probably saw Kenny Bell fumble the opening kickoff and knows he’s not going to be around much longer.
August 15th, 2016 at 10:14 am
SB, you may right! Lol
August 15th, 2016 at 3:58 pm
I’m sorry, but 300 receiving yards isn’t going to make anyone eat crow. Crow starts at 700+ yards across several games to prove consistency.