Would Licht Dare Draft Roberto Aguayo On Day 2?

April 2nd, 2016
Full of nerve and surprises

Full of nerve and surprises

If there’s one thing Bucs fans can take to the bank, it’s that their general manager has a hefty set of balls.

There are many examples.

Last year, Jason Licht traded up to draft a Division III left tackle in the second round, so he could turn him into a right guard. Historic nerve! And it worked!

In 2014, Licht drafted a tight end in the second round (Austin Seferian-Jenkins) that the Bucs didn’t need, and then Licht snagged a running back (Charles Sims) the team didn’t need in Round 3.

This Licht guy is amazingly confident in his draft board.

Licht’s nerves of steel extend further. After owning a garbage offensive line in 2014, Licht didn’t sign one free agent lineman before the 2015 draft. He was ready to ride with yet-to-be-drafted rookies (Donovan Smith and Ali Marpet) and wait on the risky summer free agent market (Gosder Cherilus and Joe Hawley).

And Licht also gave a public thumbs-up to signing and starting Josh McCown. Now that was fearless.

This brings Joe to superkicker Roberto Aguayo out of Florida State, one of the best college kicking prospects in years. He’ll be in the 2016 draft and there’s broad and legitimate speculation that he could be a second- or third-round pick.

So would Licht pull the trigger on Aguayo in the third round?

Great teams have money kickers. The Bucs have 30-year-old Connor Barth, whose best days might be in his rearview mirror. Barth was a miserable 6-for-11 from 40+ yards last season, among the worst percentage in the NFL.

Joe wouldn’t bet a nickel against Licht chasing Aguayo in the third round. It also doesn’t hurt that Aguayo is a Bucs fan and told Joe he is yearning to play in Tampa.

Would Joe draft Aguayo? Absolutely, if the Bucs had the luxury of an extra third-round pick, courtesy of dumping Mike Glennon.

84 Responses to “Would Licht Dare Draft Roberto Aguayo On Day 2?”

  1. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Says:

    IMHO, Aguayo will be long gone by round 3, and after that fiasco trade with Detroit for that big leg kicker, who was off much more then he was on, Licht may be reluctant to have his nose burned by another so called superstar kicker.

  2. Destro44 Says:

    Sorry but the answer should be NO. We don’t have the luxury of being able to take a kicker inn the first 3 rounds, I would say drafting a kicker at all would be a mistake. A great kicker had tons of value to the Bucs of the Dungy era because 12 points could win us games. I think if you are a defensive team looking to play low scoring games having a top notch kicker makes sense, but if you believe your team will be scoring touchdowns and is built on offense a middle of the road adequate kicker will do. A kicker is like a closer in baseball, if you ussually win big, or are always trailing, having the best closer in baseball is a waste. I don’t think kicker will decide more than 1 game this year, assuming that kicker is not Kyle Bryndza who liked to leave 8 points on the field.

  3. Wiezguy Says:

    Might be better off drafting Brad Craddock out of Maryland. His numbers are very close to Aguayo’s. Craddock beat Aguayo to win the Lou Groza award in 2014. Probably could get him in the 5th.

    As of 2014, he has scored the most consecutive field goals in the history of the Maryland Terrapins and the entire Big Ten Conference (24 field goals), as well as the longest field goal in Terrapins history (57 yards (52 meters) against Ohio State University).[17] Craddock also recorded the highest per-season conversion rate in the school’s history (94.7%) as well as the highest career field goal conversion rate (81.7%) (from Wikipedia).

  4. BucTrooper Says:

    As much as I would love to see Aguayo here as an FSU fan, a 3rd round pick is too valuable at this stage. Even if the Bucs get a SECOND 3rd rounder, I’d like to see them use those to move up into the second round again.

  5. pete Says:

    3rd round pick can get more valuable player than a kicker (even Aguayo)?

  6. Wiezguy Says:

    I would agree though, that accurate kickers are becomming more valuable now that the extra point line has been moved back. A lot of extra points were missed last year. How many games were decided by just a few points?

  7. MadMax Says:

    Wait for Jake Elliott, Memphis….next year.

  8. Mojiska Says:

    We lost 2 games last year that a kicker could have changed the outcome (Houston and Washington). And that was with a terrible d allowing 70% completion. That alone would have saved Lovie. Is there anyone else in the 3rd round this year that you could say would have probably changed the outcome of 2 of our games last year? Not for it but not against it, at times I think it’s a great idea and other times I think a slot guy in the 3rd would be much more beneficial.

  9. MadMax Says:

    We have an offensive minded HC with JW3….get those two another WR for our future #1 or #2 this year, and we wont have to rely on a kicker so much.

  10. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Even though Pablo is desperate for his Bucs to sign a Hispanic player….Pablo would pass on a Kicker in round 3. Pablo is OK in round 4 or above. Even Pablo has standards. Pablo is a Buc fan before he is anything else…..and Pablo is not a racist, Pablo simply likes his Hispanic amigos.’

  11. BigHogHaynes Says:

    I welcome all posters to please leave comment : I keep hearing LOVIE laid no foundation, but he rule over the player roster,and now this post says Licht drafted all these players which I consider a foundation, am I missing something here? I guess yall going to tell me LOVIE was home asleep in his basement while the last 2 drafts was going on? Now that’s a funny joke!!!

  12. gotbbucs Says:


    One defensive player picked in two drafts? You tell me who was in charge of the draft.

    Lovie brought in “his” players in free agency, the draft bored him to tears.

  13. The Buc Realist Says:

    BigHogHenious Says:
    “am I missing something here? I guess yall going to tell me LOVIE was home asleep in his basement”

    No, lovie went to the combine but fell asleep!!! you can watch the videos if you want!!! And being a bad coach that just gets high draft picks is not “laying a foundation”!! Changing defensive personal every game because he is running a derelict defensive scheme is not “laying a foundation”!!!

    The most amazing thing is that the old lovie sheep thinks he was due for a breakout season!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. gotbbucs Says:

    …also, don’t you think if Lovie had more say in those drafted players that he would have probably been retained?

    He cashed some big checks for doing nothing, you can be happy for him about that if you want, but he was not going to take this team anywhere and Koetter would have eventually left and Jameis would have rotted away.

  15. McClorasMaddenDaddy210 Says:

    Are you serious? You are one of the biggest trolls I’ve ever seen! Not once have you posted anything positive about our beloved BUCS, C’MON man. F¥ck outta here wit your nonsense.
    This draft will b fun, I’ve been so amped up! Let’s go Bucs.
    Draft Meche, DT 9
    Draft Spence, move back into first…
    Sign Greg Hardy IF coach Hayes can coach him
    YO JOE!!
    GO BUCS!!!

  16. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    Boy this is music to my ears.

    Some points that have been made. Somebody pointed out that we could have one two more games with a “decent” much less superstar kicker! Amen brother…two freaking wins…who other than a QB can determine that much in a game?

    Somebody pointed out that it would have been good in a Dungy era because of 12-9 games. But it’s not the total that matters!!! It’s the MARGIN of victory that counts. A 38-35 win is just as effective as a 12-9 win. And while I certainly concede that the league is more and more offense minded every year the actual margins of victory are still amazingly close in the NFL!!! Many games are determined by less than a TD…not all but if Aguayo helped us steal the two games we lost last year he would be WELL WORTH a 3rd pick!!! Even a high one like ours.
    The other great news about kickers is they last a long long time. Look at Vinateri and Jankowski. We may never had to worry about a kicker for more than a decade.

    I am an MG8 admirer. But I would trade him in a New York minute for Aguayo.

  17. SoFloBuc Says:

    I wonder if the Raiders thought that about their FSU kicker?
    And who did D Brooks mention first in his HOF speech? Just sayin if we get two 3rds why not?

  18. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Trade MG8 for an extra 3rd round pick. I would have no problem taking him then.

  19. ndog Says:

    Big dog it’s called track record. Lovie’s past showed his talent evaluation skills and so did who HE CHOSE to but on the field. Examples would be Mike Jenkins, Tim Jennings over J Banks. Both of those guys are teamless but Lovie’s knee eye for talent had them playing over Banks and Verner. So no he gets no credit for the drafted players. The guy was clearly a stubborn, coach who had no eye for talent. How do you even try to dispute that? Again those guys are currently not on a roster and he plated those guys week after week.

  20. CrustyCrab Says:

    Why can’t you guys move on Lovie is gone and to say that Lovie did have any say so about the direction of the Bucs is ludicrous. Foundation isn’t just the players what about some of his executive moves. Licht Koetter Bajakian Embree Spencer Warhop all these guys were hand picked by Lovie so give the his due and let’s won some football games were all rooting for the same team by the way Aguayo would be a steal but see have to get him before Tomlinson.

  21. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    A kicker is one of the more important positions now. With extra points not being chip shots anymore. You need a guy who will make them.

    I love the post by Wiezguy. Craddock would be a great pickup in the 5th. I would be happy with either guy.

    I believe one of the teams at the end of the 2nd round will draft the kid. I can’t remember a kicker having this much hype before the draft. Hell the last 2 seasons for that matter.

  22. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Lovie did some good things with our coaching staff. As far as the draft goes. That was all Licht. And Lovie’s FA pickup speak for themselves. I don’t understand this debate. There isn’t one. The guy is coaching Illinois for God’s sake.

  23. ChrisfromOrlando Says:

    Lets go Aguayo(3rd) and Boehringer (4th).

  24. Calibucfan Says:

    I say draft that Jaylen Smith kid at lb
    The one that’s hurt. Good prospect if we can get him there

  25. R.O. Says:

    So we shouldn’t draft the player that could be the leading scorer on the team every year for the next 10 years? Hmmmm curious…

  26. biff barker Says:

    Gents, Mike Smith has it right.

    Draft good football players. Trust Licht & Co to go BPA in every single round. If our guy is on the board reach up and get him. If not, trade down.

    Biff thinks rounds 3 and 4 are every bit as important for building long term depth.

    Got a hole then go FA when rosters are cut down.

  27. Supersam Says:

    Sorry joe but he’ll be gone by the third, if we want him we take him with our second pick or trade back up into the second round.

  28. martinii Says:

    Maybe I am just too old, but the logic tree in some of the above post appear to be a zero sum game. One says if we would have had a better kicker we would have won two more games and Lovie would still be our head coach. That would eliminate the Koetter Mike Smith era, and erase the apparent improvements most of us have been applauding so far this offseason. I believe this line of thought greatly distorts the premise of this article which is Should we draft Aquayo in the 3rd round. Aquayo could have easily missed those kicks as a rookie so we are in a huge battle of the hypothetical. Only remotely accurate statement so far is Licht will draft (with the 51% consent of Koetter) whoever he feels will be most beneficial to Buc’s in 2016.

  29. cmurda Says:

    I missed Joe’s original article on Aguayo. I didn’t realize, like V Har, he truly wants to be here. That goes a long way with me. There’s nothing like a young man (JW comes to mind) with elite talent that truly wants to be here. It’s the same reason why I’m on the VHIII bandwagon and the same reason that it wouldn’t break my heart getting Aguayo in the 3rd rd assuming he’s available. My heart says get him in the 3rd rd but my brain is saying that’s pretty early for any kicker and we still have needs at OT, WR, and safety. I’m going to assume we take care of CB and DE in the first 2 rounds. Obviously anything is possible. I’ve even seen a good amount of mocks having Bosa fall all the way to us.

  30. gotbbucs Says:

    If you take a kicker any higher than the 3rd round he better never miss a kick inside of 45 yards. Never.
    There is no way in hell I would use anything higher than an 8th round pick on a kicker.

  31. BigHogHaynes Says:

    I’m just trying to see how things work, and some you feel just as I thought you would, let me get this thru my thick head : LOVIE had player personal control, but gets credit for one defensive player drafted and all underachieving free agents signed. But Licht gets credit for all the draft picks on the offensive Side of the ball even tho he just took charge of player personal since LOVIE was fired. I don’t know what a troll is but I’m sure it’s a derogatory term!

  32. tnew Says:

    not a fan of a kicker in the third. If that is the thought, we are that close that we can spend a third on a kicker, there is no way we should trade Glennon. If we are that close, we need a quality backup qb.

    R.O. not to be a wise guy, but whoever is in the kicker position will be the leading scorer whether the kicker is drafted or not so that isn’t really a valid argument.

  33. James Walker Says:

    I think people need to research this kicker before making snap judgements. HE HAS NEVER MISSED A KICK INSIDE 40 YARDS! He began kicking as a child and snuck into the High school football field to practice when the goal post his dad had in his backyard was too easy.

    Also, who is the Buccaneer all time scoring leader? Martin Gramatica 592 points.

  34. James Walker Says:

    Also, the NFL top 7 all time scoring leaders in the history of the game were kickers.

  35. Beeric Says:

    Only the Tampa Bay Jaguars would make such a move….No kickers before round 7. I don’t care who they are.

  36. Brent bull/buc Says:

    I think the skyway bridge would be full of Bucs fans if that happened.

  37. Destro44 Says:

    Someone mentioned Janikowski, a perfect example of a great kicker that didn’t make much difference for the Raiders record for a decade. Great kicker does not = wins. Now we did lose 2 games by kicker last year, because Kyle Bryndza wasn’t able to hit anything and cost us double digits in the Houston game. So great kicker doesn’t = wins, terrible kicker = loses. In theory a competent middle of the pack kicker (Barth) shouldn’t = wins or loses. In a league where RB have no real value anymore how can anyone argue kickers do?

  38. DaRealistBucFan Says:

    Why waste a high draft pick of a f-ing kicker?!?! Cmon man! Sebastian Janikowski drafted in the 1st rd. How many playoff games or championship rings did he won the Raiders Joe? Go ahead I’ll wait! 5th rd is the highest I’d take any kicker I don’t care about his collegiate accolades!

  39. Eric Says:

    Wizeguy….Aguayo kicked the ball 85 times in 2014 to Craddock’s 63.

    Aguayo was 27-30 and 55-55 break down of FGs/XPs. 3/4 from 50+

    Craddock was 18-19 and 44-44 break down of FGs/XPs. 2/3 from 50+

    It’s hard to try and say Craddock better than Aguayo as that is unproven since he kicked the ball 32 times less than Aguayo. Needs to be a bit closer in numbers to try and say he was better. Aguayo has finished his 3 year college career as the NCAAs most accurate kicker (FG/XP combined) of all time and was 1 FG make vs miss from being the most accurate FG kicker of all time and finished 2nd best in that regard. Braddock winning Groza last year can be looked at as a snub due to the fact Aguayo kicked the ball that many more times than Braddock. Especially considering how many close games FSU won due to kicks he made during a game.

    Career totals

    Aguayo 69/78 FGs 198/198 XPs to finish 267/276 overall finishing as #1 in accuracy all-time in NCAA history.

    Craddock 57/70 FGs 126/130 XPs to finish 183/200 overall – that’s 4 years of stats too. He didn’t even come close to kicking as much as Aguayo in 3 years.

    It’s not even close Wizeguy….

  40. Buc1987 Says:

    ^^^^Some team’s going to take him way before the 5th soooo

  41. Espo Says:

    Just save the pick and let our checkdown throwing giraffe kick. Teach him some accuracy and I’m sure those long legs can boot it. He reminds me of the “wiry” (Irish accent) kicker who smoked on the field in The Replacements.

  42. salish_seamonster Says:

    Drafting Aguayo would be ludicrous. How could a team with defensive needs at every level spend a high pick on a kicker? Besides, Barth kicked pretty well last year, and he’ll have competition from Murray, who was pretty good the year before.

  43. Espo Says:

    Here’s how I look at it. There are very few “sure things” in the draft. Usually an offensive tackle or two. Jalen Ramsey appears to be in that category this year. The draft is such a crap shoot anyways, if we can draft Aguayo, who is as much of a “sure thing” as any kicker I can remember, in the 3rd round, then go for it. We’d have one less headache for years to come. People argue that playing for 3 or losing field position is a loser’s mentality. Guess what? It’s part of the game! I’d love to have a money kicker. If it’s like Joe said and we have an extra 3rd from trading Glennon, why not?

  44. Pat Says:

    Unless Licht is drafting for Manchester…PASS.

  45. FartinMartin Says:

    Martin Gramatica ….

  46. DB55 Says:

    Martin Gramatica was a 3rd rnd draft pick (80 overall) by the Bucs in 1999. I’ve never heard anyone complain about him, except for the leaping of course but he was pure money and a huge part of our team.

    As for the licht v Lovie drafts I believe that in 14 Lovie heavily influenced what players we drafted. Evans i.e. Jeffreries, ASJ i.e. Olsen and Sims was supposed to be Forte 2.0. Then oline, oline, returner who couldn’t hold onto the ball. I also believe he heavily influenced the FA signings in 2014.

    2015 I believe we saw a shift where Licht controlled the draft and Lovie influenced the FA signings.

    2016 I think we’ll see licht control the draft and FAs with input from the coaches. I like our step up now it’s almost like we’re a pro football organization.

    But the real hero, the biggest hero of them all is the person who hired Casey Phillip. 😍😍😍

  47. Nick B. Says:

    Why is everyone forgetting Pat Murray? He had one and a half rough games in a preseason. Other than that he was a good kicker in his rookie season with the Bucs. I’m more than OK with him. Now if they intend on keeping Barth then yes please go and get Aguayo

  48. Supersam Says:

    You guys are foolish to under rate the kicker, we would’ve won atleast 3 more games and Lovie would still have a job if our kicker last year could’ve made a few simple field goals. Fools.

  49. Fsuking Says:

    Aguayo in the 3rd is a great pick. A kicker with no question marks is extremely rare. Whoever compared Robetro Aguayo to Kyle Brinzda is a moron. The best kicker in college football history vs a guy with a big leg that missed half his kicks his senior year in college without even trying a 50 yarder. Who scouted that piece of garbage?

  50. Couch Fan Says:

    Kickers do not win games all by themselves but neither does any other position. Can he help us win games? Absolutely, many games come down to a final kick and having a good one is necesary, no matter the round. If the Bucs are looking to upgrade the position its a good move. Isn’t the whole point of trading Glennon is to get a “starter” to fill a hole? Well there you go. Common sense is flawed with some of you.

  51. Fsuking Says:

    Casey Phillips is annoying as f$&@

  52. Dewey Selmon Says:

    no way! someone from the 2nd round will fall to us in rd 3. I bet a de will be avaialable. a kick over boyd the wr from pitt? cooper from sc, these types of guys will be there for us in rd 3. last year we built with 4 starters.

  53. Supersam Says:

    Casey Phillips can interview me any day

  54. DB55 Says:

    Fsuking Says:
    April 2nd, 2016 at 3:34 pm
    Casey Phillips is annoying as f$&@
    You’ve heard her speak? You a better man than me king.

  55. DB55 Says:


  56. Mojiska Says:

    @couch. Generally agree, but missed a pat and lost by 1 to Washington. Missed 3fg and a pat and lost by 10 to Houston. Those 2 we definitely lost because a kicker among other things.

  57. Dave Says:

    This is ridiculous.
    Not a chance
    Waste a pick on a kicker in the first 3 rounds?!??
    Franchises that Consistentlose do that …. Oh wait.

  58. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Marpet didn’t play tackle…he played guard and center.

  59. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    As to taking a kicker…forget it. That’s NOT one of our key needs. A minor need yes, but not a key need. We can fill the role in FA is necessary.

  60. Espo Says:

    How many 2nd round picks have we screwed up? This is far less of a risk. If this guy is there in the 3rd, and there isn’t someone else higher on Licht’s board for the 3rd, then grab him.

  61. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Our kicking game suck last season if not Roberto snatch someone. D@$! that was embarrassing.

  62. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Anyone who thinks we lost to Washington because of Barth’s first missed extra point of his career need to think again. We blew a 24 point lead.

    If Aguayo has a leg strong enough to kick it through the end-zone on kickoffs and if we get an extra pick for Glennon…..I would be OK with drafting him.

    With Anger…..we would have 2 3rd round kickers.

  63. ndog Says:

    Everyone saying best player avaliable and now saying they don’t want a kicker is a complete contradiction. If he is the best player available take him. It’s about being the best you can be at each position. One of my philosophis is get as many players that are the best at their positions as possible, regardless of the position.

  64. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I’d say a third round pick for Aguayo would be a tad better than Dominick’s pick of Myron Lewis.

  65. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    As far as Casey Phillips is concerned…..she is a perfect fit for her part. Her on air duties are a minimal part of her PR job……we stole her from the Rams and I am quite certain they miss her.
    You should understand that her role is to appeal to all Buc fans……women, children, families…..not simply to us JBF Rachel Watson loving types.
    We have Miko to fill that role now!!!

  66. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    I’ve been thinking about Aguayo in the 4th, if he’s there. If they took him in the third, I could understand why. Bust potential in round 3 is probably around 80%, so taking the safest player could be the best bet. I’d rather trade up from the 4th round to the back end of the 3rd, if he’s there, than draft him with our original 3rd. I’d like to see Glennon moved during the draft, also. I’d like for us to get a 3rd or maybe use him for trade-up ammo.

  67. Buc1987 Says:

    26 more days.


  68. Buc1987 Says:

    BuccaneEric75 ….where have you been? How was jail?

  69. SoFloBuc Says:

    Remember Joe said a second third round pick for Aguayo, I still would do it for a money kicker.
    I like Casey and her good ol Christian girl next door vibe. Didn’t know she came from St Louis, that make sense.

  70. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Roberto Aguayo could be – Mike Nugent 2.0

    Mike Nugent

    Ohio St (2001-2004)
    • XPM: 136
    • XPA: 139
    • XP%: 97.8
    • FGM:72
    • FGA: 88
    • FG%: 81.8
    • Pts: 352

    *Mike Nugent was drafted by the – New York Jets in the 2nd round (47th overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft.

  71. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    What happen to K Dustin Hopkins

  72. JAB83 Says:

    This would improve the offense and seriously poslish off the rebuilding of it to last a decade…

    DRAFT HIM AT #9!!! No…

    But… Trade MG to the Jets for Mo… Offer them out #9 pick in exchange for their 2nd or 3rd… If they won’t do the trade player for player…

    Draft this guy with the pick from the trade…

  73. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    87, jail was good, but I have to admit, I wasn’t the Butch! Lol! I haven’t posted in a while because I’m lazy. I needed to re-type my username and e-mail address and didn’t feel like doing it!! I just told my wife that too, and she told me I’m an idiot!!

  74. Tom S. Says:

    While Aguayo could go as high as the 2nd round I don’t see it.

    I expect teams will have a shot at him in the top of round 4 where he will be selected.

  75. tmaxcon Says:

    I’m a Murray fan myself. Barth is washed up and has the range of a peek wee league kicker.

  76. Pittbucfan Says:

    Gramatica was 3rd rd. Was pretty dependable.

  77. MadMax Says:

    Bonzai, Marpet was mostly a left tackle in college.

  78. godzilla13 Says:

    Roberto Aguayo is a clutch kicker but with average leg strength. As a junior (21-26, just 5-for-10 from 40 or more yards away). In 2015 He made just 5-of-9 field goals from 41 yards and beyond. Am I missing something because our current kicker has the same problem? No way for a 3rd rounder. Ka’imi Fairbairn
    UCLA has a stronger leg and we can get him in the sixth round. Made all 16 of his kicks this season from 40 yards and in and finished college with a streak of 41 straight makes from 35 and in. He is consistent from middle to long and made a 60 yard FG last year.

  79. salish_seamonster Says:

    If it’s an extra 3rd round pick from Glennon, I still say it could be better used on a safety or defensive end or another offensive lineman or maybe a linebacker… People who say there’s a high bust rate on all these other players, so why not, I think have forgotten there’s also no slam dunks on highly drafted kickers either. We already have 2 proven NFL kickers on the roster. If we were a kicker away from a SB, I’d do it, but we’re not… If he somehow slid into the 5th round, and he’s as good as people say, then hell yes… otherwise no.

  80. cmurda Says:

    Wow. 80 comments on a thread about a kicker. Who woulda thunk it?

  81. P'cola Buc Says:

    Having a premier kicker on your team can win those close games for you with minutes(seconds) on the clock. Such a kicker is quite valuable. The thought of him being perhaps with Jameis for many years to come might lead to some exciting last minute wins. Many 3rd rounders are busts anyways. Aguayo in the 3rd might be in the long run worth it.

  82. Iwanttowinagain! Says:

    Big hog, i feel ya. Lovie’s 2 drafts netted us 6 starters (qb,rb,wr,te,lt,rg) and 1 quality reserve (pamphile) on offense and 1starter (mlb) on defense. Now his FA pick ups and his ability to coach defense (which is how he made his mark) was a joke.

  83. salish_seamonster Says:

    “Many 3rd rounders are busts anyways.”

    I find this logic ludicrous. So, if you draft a kicker in the 3rd round, he has a better chance of not being a bust? History of highly drafted kickers indicates otherwise. The bust argument is worthless, and the difference between a great kicker and the 2 experienced kickers the Bucs already have is not enough to convince me that Aguayo is worth a 3rd round pick. They have needs at enough positions that a 3rd rounder on a kicker is a luxury. Let’s talk about drafting a kicker that high once the Bucs are a playoff team.

  84. DH Says:

    Eric. Craddock won the 2014 Groza over Aguayo because he was perfect up to 50 yards. Aguayo wasn’t!. End of argument. Also Craddock has a stronger leg (57yd FG in a game). Aguayo’s game stats from 54 and 56 yds do not look too good. It may be advisable to not sell Craddock short.