Jack Conklin And The Bucs

March 21st, 2016
Senses a position the Bucs will address in the draft.

Senses the arrival of a B1G tackle.

If ever the Bucs tipped off fans to what they think of their right tackles, it came two weeks go when Tampa Bay danced the dance with free agent tackle Andre Smith.

The Bucs surely weren’t going to bring Smith in to play left tackle. Even though the crowd that likes to fidget with calculators hates Donovan Smith, the Bucs are really, really happy with him.

When you add in starting right tackle Gosder Cherilus and backup right tackle Demar Dotson are both over 30, one doesn’t need a calculator to realize the Bucs are, at worst, preparing to upgrade the position.

So maybe helmethair Mel Kiper, Jr. is onto something. In a recent BSPN podcast, Kiper throws out the name of Michigan State roadgrader Jack Conklin as a Bucs draft pick — at right tackle.

Looking at what the Bucs did in free agency, Kiper said he smells the Bucs drafting a right tackle next month, which will help America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.

“When you look at J.R. Sweezy, he is a hole-filler at guard,” Kiper said. “[Brent] Grimes and [Josh] Robinson come in and help you at corner but getting a [Vernon] Hargreaves would solidify that starting spot. Robert Ayers comes in at defensive end – you could look at Jack Conklin as a right tackle on that football team. That would obviously help out Jameis Winston dramatically knowing you addressed the defense and you have your guard so the offensive line with the addition of Conklin is a possibility there.”

It’s an interesting thought, but would the Bucs, or any team, spend a No. 9 pick on a right tackle? Isn’t that a bit of a reach? In Kiper’s last mock draft, he projected Conklin would be selected by the Eagles at No. 13, before they traded up with Miami to No. 8.

Kiper’s math adds up. Looking at who the Bucs signed — and more importantly, swung and missed on — it’s easy to predict what areas they will address in the draft.

Right now, the Bucs have depth at right tackle, even though Cherilus and Dotson are getting long in the tooth. What the Bucs may do, instead of spending a No. 9 pick on a right tackle, is to draft a tackle early on the third day of the draft, to develop for when Cherilus and Dotson’s days are done.

64 Responses to “Jack Conklin And The Bucs”

  1. Ray Rice Says:

    As they say, “it all starts up front.” I would gladly take another stud OL to protect THE MESSIAH. In addition, something has to be done on defense as well.

  2. Patrick in VA Says:

    While I agree that we need to do some more upgrading on our line, we cannot go another draft without giving our defense some attention. It worked out well the last two years and I’m fine with what we’re seeing out of the players we’ve taken, but we need some new young quality players on our defensive side. This is the draft to get them, so let’s do it. Pamphile is developing. Maybe grab a third day prospect, like Joe said. No need to get nuts.

  3. Bee Says:

    I agree we need defensive help but I’m curious if the new coaches can get more out of what we have on the roster. I want them to draft the best players regardless of position sans QB. This roster needs talent and mental toughness.

  4. DallasBuc Says:

    I can see us trading that pick.

  5. Buc1987 Says:

    Not happening helmet-hair.

  6. Mike Johnson Says:

    Bucs had better get Defensive help..and lots of it too!

  7. Dave Says:

    No one knows really but I’d be damn surprised if it isn’t a DE.
    Tney can get an OLineman in the later rounds. They pan out more than most positions when drafted late.

  8. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    Reading all these threads…our draft has basically become a BPA with some exceptions…certainly no QB..no RB…no guards or centers or linebackers..outside of that…BPA.

  9. OneBuc55 Says:

    Rd1. DE/OLB – Leonard Floyd (Georgia)
    Rd2. CB – Xavien Howard (Baylor)
    Rd3. DT – Austin Johnson (Penn State)
    Rd4. OT – Willie Beavers (W. Michigan)
    Rd5. S – DeAndre Houston-Carson (William & Mary)
    Rd6. FB – Dan Vitale (Northwestern)
    Rd6. WR – Michael Thomas (Southern Miss)

  10. Bucco Brice Says:

    if the drafts top players go as rated, we are left with Ronnie Stanley as the best available…Move Do.Smith to RT?, plug in Stanley at LT?

  11. martinii Says:

    How about Willie Beavers in 4th or 5th rd. Mayock likes him.

  12. Buc1987 Says:

    No DE @9 is a slap in GMC’s face.

  13. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    I really wouldn’t be against using that first roundpick on the offensive side of the ball if they think there’s a guy there that makes us better. Although I have to say that I feel it’s extremely impotant for us to add a young defensive lineman (either tackle or end). It would be silly to count on a rookie next year on the defensive line to give us any kind of pass rush but we need to start developing that side of the line for the future.

    Really have my heart set on Sterling Shepard in round 2. Hoping we can add a weapon for Jameis at pick 39

  14. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    Jack Conklin is a Blue Chipper. Your not gonna finding that kind of talent (this year) in the 3 or 4th round. An even though, a few folks have projected Conklin at RT. Most will tell you he could easily slide over to LT.

    This guy is what football is all about. He came out no where as a walk on. Demolished so called 4 & 5 star prospects in practice – to gain his position. Then he proceeded to destroy almost every single rusher he faced- Including Buckner.

    If we trade back a few spots – pick up an extra 2 & 4th round pick – Draft Conklin
    Then use one of picks a DE. You could use the other 2nd rounder on anything.

    A Combination of Shilique Calhoun

    & either
    Su’a Cravens, S/LB, USC
    Andrew Billings, DT, (Can’t believe this guy might slide to the 2nd round)
    Chris Jones, DE/DT


    A Combination of Silique Calhoun & either
    Germain Ifedi
    Vadal Alexander
    Tyler Boyd
    Joshua Perry

  15. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Don’t get me wrong I’m all in on drafting Noah Spence. But I wouldn’t be the least bit upset if we trade back and draft Jack Conklin.

  16. Joe Says:

    Move Do.Smith to RT?

    Not happening folks. Just not happening. Bucs are happy with Smith at LT.

    Turn the page.

  17. Deminion Says:

    just get tyler boyd somehow dude is smooth

  18. Deminion Says:

    Tyler Boyd is a faster version of Ike hillard

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Let’s not forget the big accusation – was suppose to be RT Mitchell Schwartz. Before Schwartz signed a 5-year, $33 million contract with the Kansas City Chiefs

  20. Big Marlon B Says:


    I love how you think. Great picks, fills most of the holes on the roster. Only thing is, I don’t think Vitale makes it to the 6th round. With his versatility and athleticism, I can see him going as early as the 4th.


    as always, good work sir. I respect the insight and research you put into your posts.

    Conklin is a bona fide bad ass. Adding him and Sweezy would make this O line a bully….nobody would wanna deal with them. I think he’s a slight reach at 9, especially with other needs trumping RT, and the probability of players being available at those positions of need. Trading back a bit and gaining more picks, allowing flexibility and addressing those others needs is a great idea.

  21. Dave Says:

    All this speculation is ridiculous really.
    They NEED a DE. End of story.
    They’ll take a DB or 2 and a LB and possibly a WR and OL, but DE goes first.

    Please stop with this BPA bs. No team does that in the first few rounds. It is a combination of need and bpa. To do just one and not the other is idiotic.

  22. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    No one is suggesting Move Donovan Smith to RT. But as you know injuries do happen. An as you’ve stated many of times – is hard to replace a LT. So if you can grab a blue chip Tackle. Move him over to RT – with confidence that if something happens to your LT – You have a guy that can step right in. WIN WIN

  23. Big Marlon B Says:

    Also, LUV….in your scenario of trading back for Conklin….that would eliminate the need for someone like Ifedi or Alexander. Maybe the center from Alabama in 3 or 4? (can’t remember his name right now). Hawley was good and reliable, but if they can upgrade there too, that O line could potentially be ridiculous.

  24. Brent bull/buc Says:

    Why do all you [EASY, Dice!] out ther want a dt. We got two good starters. Why spend a 1st rd pick on rt stupid.

  25. Joe Says:


    No one is suggesting Move Donovan Smith to RT. But as you know injuries do happen. An as you’ve stated many of times – is hard to replace a LT. So if you can grab a blue chip Tackle. Move him over to RT – with confidence that if something happens to your LT – You have a guy that can step right in. WIN WIN

    This makes no sense. Bucs already have capable right tackles. If Conklin is indeed the right tackle of the future, either Cherilus or Dotson will stay (maybe both).

    So if there is an injury at RT, you are going to take your most important player on the offensive line, a left tackle, and move him to a foreign position (to the best of Joe’s knowledge, Smith has never played right tackle)… for who? A backup? Then you are weakening two positions on the line.

    The Bucs have their left tackle. His name is Donovan Smith. If the Bucs do draft a tackle, it will be for the right side, not to replace Smith.

    Not sure where this “Donovan Smith is a right tackle” talk started. It surely isn’t coming from someone working at One Buc Palace or for that matter, anyone Joe has spoken to that works in the NFL.

    Mike Glennon has a better chance of starting at quarterback than Donovan Smith does at right tackle.

  26. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Big Marlon B S

    Thank you for the complement sir

  27. Joe Says:

    Why do all you [EASY, Dice!] out ther want a dt. We got two good starters. Why spend a 1st rd pick on rt stupid.

    These are also known as the Gerald McCoy haters, who are closet fans of Da’Quan Bowers.

  28. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    This makes no sense. Bucs already have capable right tackles.

    What the Hell are U talking about bruh- No one is saying move DS to RT.


  29. Phil Says:

    We don’t need to waste a 1st round pick on a right tackle.

  30. Bucco Brice Says:

    ok, with buckner,bosa and hargreaves gone before #9, bucs gotta trade down. Nobody fits with the top ends and corner gone.

  31. GhostofSchiano Says:

    I agree with JOE…Rounds 1 & 2 DE-FENSE, Round 3 Offense, Round 4 Offense, Round 5,6&7, DE-FENSE

  32. Big Marlon B Says:

    @ Joe

    you got LUV’s whole premise backwards. what he was saying is since Conklin projects as a RT, put him at RT. if Donovan Smith at LT gets injured, Conklin can be moved there, as he has experience playing that side anyway. Then whoever the swing tackle is (likely Pamphile) could step in at RT, which is the less crucial of the 2 bookend positions.

  33. Guzzie Says:

    Brent bull/buc…the main reason DT is a possibility at 9 is Clinton McDonald is coming off injury and is older with limited pass rush ability and Akeem spence and william gholston are not only limited players but are coming up on contract years….getting the top rated DT Rankins over the 3rd best DE, not even sure who that is (Lawson Dodd spence ogbah) makes sense from a need and BPA standpoint, on top of that, imagine a larger Aaro Donald type player lining up to mccoy, that would be devastating on defense, that would open up our DEs to get constant 1 on 1 situations, plus inside pressure causes happy feet from QBS, causing turnovers from our back 7 sounds like a draft scenario we all can get behind

  34. DB55 Says:

    Can someone help me understand why we want Hargraves? Why would we want 2 CBs that are 5’8″ when all the receivers in the division are 6’5″? Am I missing something or am I being short sighted here?

  35. Guzzie Says:

    Rd 1 DT Sheldon Rankins 6’1 299 5.03 (40 time)
    Rd 2 CB Artie Burns 6’0 193 4.46
    Rd 3 DE Carl Nassib 6’7 277 4.84
    Rd 4 FB Dan Vitale 6’1 239 4.60
    Rd 5 DE Matt Judon 6’3 275 4.73
    Rd 6 WR Kolby Listenbee 6’0 197 4.39
    Rd 6 K Roberto Aguayo

  36. Joe Says:

    We don’t need to waste a 1st round pick on a right tackle.

    Yeah, seems a bit high for a right tackle, especially at No. 9.

  37. Joe Says:

    Big Marlon B:

    Ah, that adds up, thanks.

  38. Joe Says:

    Can someone help me understand why we want Hargraves? Why would we want 2 CBs that are 5’8″ when all the receivers in the division are 6’5″?

    To quote Hargreaves, “If you can play ball, you can play ball.” Some of the better corners are short guys (Revis). Shoot, even Brett Grimes is short. Didn’t hurt him.

    Best corners in the draft are short (after Ramsey). Alexander is 5-10 as well. He’s done well against big receivers (Notre Dame, FSU).

  39. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    Yeah, seems a bit high for a right tackle, especially at No. 9.

    Not necessarily true. Remember, the Cardinals and the Titans have taken guards in the top 10 the past few years.

    The “too early to draft position X” mindset made sense prior to the rookie salary cap, but nowadays you can take the best player. I mean, there’s talk of a Safety going #1 overall…you never would’ve seen that before the rookie salary cap

  40. Big Marlon B Says:


    you’re exaggerating quite a bit. Hargreaves is not 5’8″, and neither is Grimes. both are 5’10”, as is Verner who might even be 5’11”.

    ALL of the receivers in the division aren’t 6’5″, in fact Kelvin Benjamin is the only one. New Orleans cut Marques Colston, Devin Funchess is 6’4″, and Julio Jones is 6’2″ or 6’3″. New Orleans has Brandon Coleman who is 6’6″, but it’s anyone’s guess as to how much he will even be seeing the field.

    Besides, it’s not like there are any 6’5″ corners walking around. Hargreaves is really good. I don’t know if he would be my top choice for the #9 pick, I feel like there is some decent CB depth. But talent is talent, and WRs are typically going to be taller than CBs….that’s just how it is.

  41. feelthepewterpower Says:

    if you listen to Licht talk…..that pick isn’t happening. right tackle a) might not be best player available…and b) Jason puts more stock into guys who can play both tackle spots.

  42. DB55 Says:

    Ty gents, seems like a reasonable explaination. Personally, I’d rather use #9 for a DL or WR.

  43. Dewey Selmon Says:

    We have an offensive coach now, I tell Mike Smith that he gets rd 2-7 to work with and offense gets rd1. I then see if Stanley fall to #9. If not I draft Treadwell. and we are sett for the next 10 years with Winston, Evans and Treadwell.

  44. Stanglassman Says:

    Interesting Mocks -OneBuc55, Guzzie.

    Always enjoy your post and insight CreamsicleBananaHammock, LuvMyBucs and BigMarlon B.

    BMB- I got a feeling Brandon Colman will see the field a lot more now that Colston is gone. That dude has got game.

  45. Stanglassman Says:

    I’m not on the Treadwell Wagon at 9. If we found a partner and traded down to around 19 (not getting past Houston) and picked up a few early picks and got Corey Coleman, I’d be alright with that. As long as we used those extra picks on the D-line. I think Colman is the top WR in the draft and do believe most will think this come draft time.

  46. Brent bull/buc Says:

    I’m sorry I’ll have to sit back and watch this draft. I get too passionate. I feel like it’s obvious we need a de and wr and lb and safety. I’ll just have to develop mentality in licht I trust until draft is over.

  47. godzilla13 Says:

    If we don’t need a right tackle why have we already shown interest in free agent tackle’s Andre Smith and Mitchell Schwartz? I thought Kevin Pamphile was going to take over at right tackle next year? The reason we want a DT is that we don’t have one other than McCoy who can rush the passer and help collapse the pocket. Now that Henry Melton and Tony McDaniel are gone we have no depth other than Akeem Spence and Da’Quan Bowers. Bowers needs to go. Watch the film on Sheldon Rankins. I was high on him until I keep coming to the same conclusion. I don’t see anything on film that excites me? What we need in this draft is impact players. Players who stand out and have the most potential. .I also like players with nicknames. If they have a nickname, the must have earned it.

    1) DE/OLB Leonard “the freak” Floyd Georgia (6′ 6″ 248)
    2) SS Karl “hitman”Joseph West Virginia (5′ 10″ 205)
    3) DT Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State (6′ 2″ 310)
    4) CB Harlan Miller Southeastern Louisiana (6′ 0″ 180)
    5) OLB Deion Jones LSU (6′ 1″ 230)
    6) K Roberto Aguayo* Florida State (5′ 11″ 210)
    6) FB Tra Carson Texas A&M (6′ 1” 240)

  48. destro44 Says:

    All the people complaining about CB height are just numbers idiots. Its not like all teams do is throw the ball up to 6-5 recievers to go out jump for. Yes some balls are thrown up but good players make plays regardless f height. Look at the NBA for a moment, Steph Curry, Tony Parker, Allan Iverson are all short by the numbers, but players find a way to compete and play. Height and really weight are BS numbers, I would say height is more important for a QB than a CB but Brees and Wilson still get it done.

  49. USFBUC Says:

    I think we are going defense with our first three picks, maybe we draft an oline player if we get a additional pick in the first three rounds by trading Glennon. We have a nice mix of youth and experience on the oline currently. Going into the 2017 season we will need to add to the oline at RT and C for sure.

    The only other thing I could see is a tackle/draft pick packaged up in trade for Glennon

  50. The Buc Realist Says:

    I am surprised at how many do not think the Bucs will grab a DT in the 1st or 2nd rounds, Were the draft is deep and most likely find great value at the position!!!! if the Bucs did grab one ( move up from second round to bottom of the first) that rookie DT deal will run up to GMC end of contract and career (most likely)!!!!!

  51. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    Thank you for the kind words, Stanglassman

  52. Pickgrin Says:

    BPA!!! Bucs just need to stay true to their board. If an offer to move down comes – that would be great – but its highly unlikely. We just need a good football player with that 1st pick – doesn’t really matter what position as long as its not QB, RB, WLB, MLB or 3-tech.

    OT Stanley would be an awesome pick IMO if he’s available at 9. If not – then either Hargreaves or Rankins will be and I believe all 3 of those players are going to be very good in the NFL.

  53. Stanglassman Says:

    Godzilla13- Great points, per usual. I’m all in on Rankins too. Qbs hate interior pressure it gets there so fast and blows up runs.

    I fell in love with Floyd in the combine and I’m alright with him too if Smith is on board. I just hesitate because I loved Mike Mamula after the combine too. I’ll need to do a little more homework on Floyd before the draft.

  54. Big Marlon B Says:

    thanks for the compliment Stanglassman, much appreciated

  55. Stanglassman Says:

    Not so sure Deion Jones last til the 5th round. I think too many teams saw what the Bucs got in Kwon last year and want to emulate it. Projected 3rd round.

  56. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    For someone who doesn’t like mock drafts, you sure to talk about them a lot, lol.


    Bowers is no longer on the Bucs Roster. UFA

  57. 813bucboi Says:

    if we did take a tackle at #9 I hope its Stanley…at #9 we would get great value and a plug and play player…I think everything depends on the first round…if a player like bosa, Stanley or jack fall to us at #9 then we need to take one of them…imo, I think the dolphins may take Hargreaves and bosa falls to us….
    1st round-de-j.bosa
    2nd round- cb-William Jackson or artie burns
    3rd round- lb-deion jones
    4th round-de/dt-carl nassib
    5th round- fs/ss-Keanu neal
    6th round- de-alex mcallistar

  58. James Walker Says:

    We also should have an extra pick for Glennon, or at least a trade for him at some point.

  59. Stanglassman Says:

    BucBoi- Thanks for the mock.

    I hope you’re right and WJIII last til the 2nd round. Both DE Bronson Kaufusi & Nassib have shot up all the recent mocks. I think we’d be lucky to get one of those guys in the 3rd. I think Nassib will be gone in the by the end of the 2nd.

  60. illwill83 Says:

    At 9 they need to take best Dline player available. DE or DT

  61. Stanglassman Says:

    Would you stick to the DL BPA if Ramsey or Tunsil dropped to the Bucs at 9?

  62. godzilla13 Says:

    Stanglassman Says – Thank You. On Sheldon Rankins I am not as high as I was on him. I keep watching film on him and keep asking myself “what am I missing?” I just don’t see anything that makes him stand out to justify him being considered the best DT in this draft? Yes, he dominated at the Senior Bowl, yes, he gets off the ball quickly and holds his gap. He is a gifted athlete for his size and can play both the run and rush the passer. Yes, he is all those things but so is Vernon Butler, Javon Hargrave and Hassan Ridgeway. All could be drafted in later rounds and if you draft him at nine, is he really better or have more potential than Robert Nkemdiche, Andrew Billings or a Deforest Buckner in that role? On Floyd.. I believe he has the most upside of any player this year but with that comes a risk. He could be the second-coming of Dion Jordan. He’s too high coming across the line of scrimmage and at times he can resemble a pig-pong, bouncing off of defenders. When he tackles he doesn’t wrap up, rather he throws or swings the defender to the ground. That and his skinny frame are the concerns. The upside is his speed, explosiveness off the snap, his bend and the best counter move in the draft. He could double as the strongside linebacker and DE on passing plays. He is disruptive and gets a lot of holding penalties.

    Bonzi – Thanks. I didn’t realize Bowers is UFA.

  63. Ocala Says:

    I’ve said this before I’d be surprised if the Bucs draft Leonard Floyd
    His production in college is very poor for a first round selection and Jason Licht has previously said on multiple occasions that they give a lot of weight to production more than projecting a prospect.

  64. Bucs-Noles Fan Says:

    The problem I have with Hargreaves was that he wasn’t even the best CB on the Gators team last year, it was almost like he took the year off. He was much better in 2014, but seemed to disappear this past season. Freakish measurables, but last season’s disappearance concerns me about his desire.