“Real Football” Mock For Hargreaves

February 29th, 2016

HargreavesSome (not many) mock drafts get Joe’s attention.

Included is that special group is what comes today from former 11-year NFL quarterback Jim Miller, who co-hosts Movin’ The Chains (aka the greatest all-football show around) on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

Miller also works for the Bears and calls their preseason games, was a longtime voice for Michigan State football, and is found online at the special RealFootballNetwork.com.

Miller pumped out his first 2016 mock draft this morning. And it’s yet another having the Bucs pluck Gators cornerback Vernon Hargreaves off the board at No. 9 overall.

6. Baltimore – Jalen Ramsey, CB, FSU
Ramsey is the big corner John Harbaugh has been looking for to upgrade his secondary. Ladarius Webb will most likely be released.

7. San Francisco – Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
As of right now, it looks like Colin Kaepernick no longer wants to be a 49er. Trent Baalke and Chip Kelly say they expect him to be there, but if Kaepernick doesn’t understand that Kelly’s is the best offense to resurrect his career, then the team needs to move on!

8. Miami – Deforest Buckner, DE, Oregon
Olivier Vernon is likely gone. Great! Get a stronger strong side DE who can get sacks, pressure, and free up Cam Wake when he gets healthy.

9. Tampa Bay – Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
Aggressive do-it-all cornerback who stops the run as well. Hello Carolina? This kid will not be afraid to stick his nose in NFL’s best rushing offense in Carolina with Jonathan Stewart or Cam Newton.

A tiny part of Joe’s soul dies every time the Bucs are projected to draft a  cornerback. Why? Because Darrelle Revis, a surefire Hall of Famer, should still be on the Tampa Bay roster.

That aside, Joe has written loads about Hargreaves over the past two days, while live at the NFL Scouting Combine. Head back to the home page for an education. Joe could see the Bucs pulling the trigger on him. But man, manbeast defensive end DeForest Bucker (No. 8 above) would feel so much sweeter.

What’s comforting about Miller’s mock is that it has three quarterbacks going in the top-7 overall picks. The Bucs desperately want that scenario to play out.

44 Responses to ““Real Football” Mock For Hargreaves”

  1. finishers Says:

    I like this kid he’s a baller !

  2. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    A tiny part of my soul dies every time the Bucs are projected to draft a cornerback. Why?

    Championship teams are built in the trenches
    We need either a Top Notch Offensive or Defensive Line Prospect.

    Note: Wouldn’t be mad, if drafted RB Derrick Henry or LB Ragland though.

  3. Strider ....Sec 147 Says:

    I want bosa!!!! Trade mike Glennon !!!!

  4. The Buc Realist Says:

    We all watched the playoffs and the Superbowl!!! We all saw the formula for stopping cam newton!! We play in a very good/great QB division!! We all agreed the formula is D-line, D-line and more D-line!!!

    The draft comes and some foam at the mouth for a CB??? Smdh!!

    I ask again, who here will be upset if the first 2 picks are DE and DT????

  5. Tom S. Says:

    How many Super Bowls do you think Mr. Turns-31-in-July would have brought us Joe? If anything, Revis might have played just well enough to keep us out of the Chase-for-Jameis in 2014.

    Of course the one Bucs team that had him went 4-12 and started 0-8 so maybe he would have been as unable to stop the sinking ship then as he did the year before.

  6. William Walls Says:

    Not all of the best pass-rushers are DEs …jus’ sayin’.

  7. Jeagan1999 Says:

    All we need are CB’s that are steady and don’t give up long plays….and those can be found in places other than the first couple rounds of the Draft. We NEED defensive ends and tackles that disrupt and get after opposing QB’s. We need pressure up front before anything else. We have a good young LB crew who can drop and cover, but (with the exception of GMC) we lack the kind of disruptive pressure up front that helps CB’s take the kind of chances that turn into turnovers.

  8. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Buckner didn’t lift red flag,Nkemdiche killed it yesterday. Jay Hayes wants a dominant DT like the one he had in cincy. NKemdiche at 9 friendly wager Joe???

  9. biff barker Says:

    Amen LMBucs. Football championships always have, and always will, be won in the trenches. Put the big money into building the from the core out.

    My soul dies because our former #1 pick CB just collected a SB ring wearing someone else’s uni. Now we need another CB.

    My soul dies because our former #1 pick SS had a banner year because someone else’s DCf figured out how to use his skillset. Now we need another SS.

    My soul dies because our former #1 pick DE is still using up a roster spot. Now we need another speed rusher.

    Draft well Jason. It’s the only way out of this misery.

  10. Bucfan951 Says:

    Am I the only one who wants to speculate who the bucs get AFTER free agency??? Still too early to guess right now.

  11. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    biff barker

    Preach Brudda, Preach

  12. Bama Rich Says:

    I guess I’m the only one that watched the Alabama Florida game when Amari Copper demolished Hargreaves.

  13. Buc1987 Says:

    Realist…Buc1987 has been saying for well over a month now.

    DL DL DL DL this offseason.

    Bring in as MANY as you can until you find 2 good ones.

    Damn it!

  14. Buc1987 Says:


  15. BucFan20 Says:

    So in other words you have learned nothing. This is a glorified nothing. About 50% get to the next level and fail. They may look great here and then the let down. The only hope you have is Licht and company get it right.

  16. pete Says:

    DLs are a must.
    Competent coaching will upgrade DBs!

  17. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    With the 9th pick in the 2016 NFL draft. The Tampa Bay Bucs select CB Vernon Hargreaves out of the University of Florida. If that isn’t what Roger Goddell ends up saying something is seriously wrong. This kid is a game changer. 4.5 speed but he runs a 4.5 with pads on too. Best hands at CB in the draft and foot work. And the kid loves to tackle.

    Shut down corner who isn’t afraid to tackle bigger guys. Please and thank you. Make it happen Licht

    And for all the people saying no to a CB in the 1st round. A shut down guy will give your DL and LBs more time to get to the QB. There is plenty of talent at DE in free agency and in the 2-4 rounds of the draft. An elite corner is hard to come by. We passed on Joe Haden and we all know how bad that worked out. You know what the definition of making the same mistake over and over again is…

    Draft Carl Nassib in the 3rd and sign Vernon in FA. Our DE prob is fixed and that will allow us to draft VH3 if he is still there at #9.

  18. Bama Rich Says:

    Amari Cooper
    Calvin Ridley

  19. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    Also, a shutdown corner cuts off half of the field. Imagine Banks as our #2 and Verner in the slot. We would have 3 legit CBs for many years to come. Makes too much sense to not draft the kid if he ends up there at #9.

  20. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    We’re taking Spence. And just like Sapp dropped because of weed Spence has dropped from a top five to much lower because of ecstasy. He’ll be there at nine and we’ll take him.

    Then we’ll have two Spences…Akeem and Noah.

  21. Espo Says:

    If Buckner is there at 8 trade our 9 and Glennon and Licht’s swimming pool for Buckner.

  22. Espo Says:

    X is a different animal than weed. Not worth the risk, imo. Btw, Sapp was also accused of coke and a smile.

  23. ndog Says:

    Just watch Vernon Hargreaves against Cooper from Alabama or KB from FSU and that is a preview of what is going to happen to him in the NFL. He is in position to make plays but those guys are just bigger than him so it doesn’t matter that he is there. When matched up with those two in college he got eaten alive.

  24. Johnny "America's Commenter" Dejay Says:

    No, no, no, no, no, the Bucs should not invest the #9 overall pick in a cornerback! Championship teams are built from the offensive and defensive lines out. Building a defense from the secondary in is Mark Dominick’s method, and the last time I checked nobody has employed him to build a team for three off-seasons.

    Everybody knows the Bucs need a pair (or more) of dominant pass rushers. Once the Bucs can put heat on opposing quarterbacks, they can plug mediocre players in the secondary and still win a ton of games.

    Let’s also not forget that this team is going to be built around Jameis and they will score a lot of points. The Bucs don’t have to rebuild the Sapp/Brooks/Lynch/Barber defense to shut down opposing offenses, they just need to get in the way long enough for the offense to run up the score.

  25. DaRealistBucFan Says:

    Idbrather take Ronnie stanley over Hargreaves or Slow as Bukner

  26. Bama Rich Says:


    I thought I was the only one.

  27. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    Just google “vernon hargreaves kelvin benjamin” and look at the images. All I see is Benjamin making catches and Hargreaves isn’t even close to getting the ball or stopping him.

  28. Bama Rich Says:

    Adarius Stewart, Bama’s #2 receiver caught passes over Hargreaves. As a Buc fan I expect a better pick from Licht.

  29. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    He has us taking a CB with Noah Spence still on the board? Hah! That’ll happen!

  30. Dom Says:

    Noah Spence

  31. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    @The Buc Realist

    I would not be upset at all.

    Now here’s a question back at you…if the Bucs trade Gerald McCoy to Jacksonville for their 5th overall pick, and then draft Bosa…and then draft Spence at 9…then trade back into the bottom of the first for a DT…would you be upset?

  32. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    And I like McCoy.

  33. 813bucboi Says:

    @bamarich and ndog, Benjamin and Cooper did that to everybody they played against that’s why both were first rounders…he did shut down odell beckham for 2 catches 47 yards 0 td’s…he also shut down Jarvis landry and Rashard green and give l.treadwell fits this year….I hope we draft him at #9 and stack the dline in rounds 2-5..draft 2 dt’s and 2 de’s….@realist I would only be mad if we drafted a de and dt with our 1st and 2nd pick not named buckner(1st) or nkemdechi(2nd) and hope and pray William Jackson is available in the 3rd…GO BUCS!!!

  34. 813bucboi Says:

    @realist…I like that but I would rather have bosa and buckner…not sold on spence…when I watched the senior bowl, he got mauled by spencer drango and other tcks(t.decker and a tckl from ark.) in the run…

    @bama and @ben…lol…you guys act like benjiman was a 5th round pick…the guy was a 23year old redshirt soph for crying out loud……GO BUCS!!!

  35. The Buc Realist Says:


    I like McCoy as well, He is all we got when it comes to the D-line. I would want more from the trade, because he is a “proven player” been to multiple probowls and Licht did the hard work of resigning him and is under contract till 2021 which means the team that owns his contract has control over him the rest of his career!!!

    But if they do not get other top notch D-line to play with McCoy, then what is the sense of having him on this team, just to be double teamed and neutralized!!!! What is the point in that!!!

  36. The Buc Realist Says:


    I am not “waving the flag” for anyone, rather just wandering what others thought about a DT and DE in the top selections, since Joe is trying to get a CB!!!

  37. James Walker Says:

    Good point Joe, is any CB worth TWO first round picks, 2013 and 2016?

  38. Espo Says:


    I like McCoy too, but I’d love that trade. He is nowhere near worth the 5th pick in the draft though. He wasn’t worth the 3rd pick in 2010, he’s not worth the 5th now.

  39. Bucs SB with Jameis Says:

    If I am correct Hargreaves was a true freshman when he played against Kelvin Benjamin. Just sayin

  40. ndog Says:

    A top 10 pick should be special Hargraves is not “special ” but the problem is it is not clear who is special in this draft.

  41. ndog Says:

    Watching all of these guys in big spots non of them stood out. Bosa did nothing against bama, Buckner did nothing against ohio state, Hargraves did nothing against anyone any good,. Shaq Lawson did always seem to step up, maybe he’s the pick.

  42. Brian Says:

    On another note… Jim and Pat’s website is simply amazing.

  43. Alaskabuc Says:

    I’m with Joe, Buckner is a beast. He would compliment GMC and Smith. We made the right choice and passed up the duck last year to get one this year.

  44. bucs4life86 Says:

    Im,not sold on Spence either, he ran a slow 40 for his size, don’t know if he’s worth a top ten pick. I know VH3 is your rolling the 🎲with Noah Spence.