Lovie Needs Just One More

November 30th, 2015

lovie 0804It’s a little too easy to find Lovie Smith bashers, guys steadfast in their belief that Smith is just a placeholder for a head coach who can get the Bucs back to the promised land.

These types look at Lovie’s 7-20 record as Tampa Bay head coach and start turning red and screaming.

Joe is not in that camp, but Joe also is not a guy who will claim winning isn’t important, or claim that playing in close games means anything.

Just like 90 percent of Mike Evans’ job is to catch footballs, 95 percent of Lovie’s job is to win games and get the most out of his talent. Lovie hasn’t done that yet.

So Joe firmly believes that Lovie needs one more win this season to preserve his job for 2016. Ending this season on a six-game losing streak should not cut it. It should not be acceptable.

Is Joe setting the bar too low? No. Joe predicted a six-win season. Lovie entered 2015 with loads of question marks at crucial positions, including (but certainly not limited to) quarterback, left tackle, defensive end, running back, returner and middle linebacker. Lovie appeared to have the makings of a six-win team.

Most of those questions have been answered positively, and the Bucs should get to those six wins easily. Joe fully expects it to happen next week.

But if somehow Lovie can’t find another victory, then his arrow will be pointed straight down. At that point, his only hope to staying employed could be America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.

55 Responses to “Lovie Needs Just One More”

  1. Tampa Tony Says:

    6 wins with 5 remaining would be an awful way to close the year out. Many on here will say I’m a Lovie hater, but I just point out his faults and am undecided on his long term tenure here. With that said I hope and expect he gets another 2-3 wins and is back next year. As I like winning more than I like being right about loser Lovie being a bad personnel man as well as coach

  2. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    I don’t know Joe, a six win season means a 1-5 finish, a clear regression. Personally, I think the team is on the verge and will win three more games. The team should resign Martin and find a CB in the draft. That should set us up for a playoff run in 2016.

  3. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    And depending on how the season plays out the last game of the year against the panthers which could possibly mean jack squat to the panthers so, there is a possibility of 7-9 except that derek anderson is a lovie tampa 2 killer

  4. MadMax Says:

    That philly game looks to be a little fluky now. I mean even the detroit lions ran all over them. The Cowboys game while we won that close one, was another crap team we played and shouldve won. The Falcons win was a pleasant surprise.
    Thats why Ive kept my hopes tamed. I didnt expect playoffs this year, we’ll be knocked out that first game if we somehow snuck in. But at least we’re making progress.

    I cant figure how starting undrafted rooks over highly drafted and highly paid starters is whats needed for Lovie’s D to work though. Maybe its his D scheme just isnt working. Many times I saw DB’s not covering the intended receiver, but they were within 5 yards just staring the reception in. Why is that?

  5. NewTampaChris Says:

    At the beginning of the season, I think most fans agreed that “signs of progress” were more important than the # of wins.

    So far, so good. So let’s all R-E-L-A-X and watch the last five games.

  6. Greg Schiano Says:

    I guess I am living on some other planet….Jose’ is pushing the Lovie wagon for 1 more win and Lovie Smith is talking about being 1 game out of the playoff hunt?? Playoffs??? Playoffs!!?? Where is Jim Mora when you need him. I have heard all season how terrible the offensive line is and yet they were giving Famous Porky 5 seconds or more….JW could not find an open receiver in 5 or more seconds in the 4th quarter.

    Previous coaches with better winning records have been fired by the Bucs after two (2) seasons. I very much disagree with Joe…I believe that giving Lovie Smith a pass if we wins 1 game out of the last 5 is just as ludicrous as giving Love Smith a pass for winning 7 out of the last 27 (7-27) with this team. A large number of fans know that with proper coaching and preperation, the Bucs could have won several more games this season!

    The fact that the Buc’s have won games (5) this season when they have the talent to win 8 or more is a clear sign that Lovie is not the long term answer. Three games ago Joe was all over Lovie for his in ability to win the games that were winnable…for his inability to draft a game plan for the specific teams, and his lackluster performance as a coach of players.

    If Lovie wins 1 more game he should be fired immediately! If he wins the last five or 4 of the last 5…then maybe he gets another season, but at the end of 2016 he will be out the door.

  7. Supersam Says:

    If Lovie don’t get 7-8 wins. Pack your bags. 6 wins is unacceptable. That means winning 1 of your last 5?? Totally unacceptable.

  8. LJ'sDaddy Says:

    Thanks New Tampa Chris. This is what I have been saying all along. The trolls and haters in the comment section of this website have been wearing me out. This is the attitude we should all have. There have been clear signs of progress. While I am NOT in love with Lovie at times…he has got us improving. Relax. That is good advice. Take some positives from the positives.

  9. MT Tom Says:

    Lovie is a mediocre HC. I hate to say it, but its true and unfortunately since exceptional coaches seem about as common as an exceptional qb we are probably stuck with Lovie. He is currently the only option to burning the place to the ground and starting over…AGAIN. With Lovie it will be 2 or 3 years of 6 and 10 or 8 and 8 seasons with a million excuses. The defensive “guru” has a terrible scheme in place. And god forbid Jameis is injured. He is the only reason this team is watchable. Man, his 3rd down coversions in the firt half were great to see.

    Once the Glazers realize Lovie is middle of the road and there is no championship on the horizon they willl have to ditch him, which probably means an entire coaching staff upheaval and re-hire, which means a minimum of 2 or 3 more years of rebuilding, which will put Jameis towad the realistic average end of his career unless he is blessed with Brady or Manning DNA. I really wish this forecast was better. I just havent seen anything in Lovie that gives me confidence that he is a talented head coach. Maybe the Koetter hire, maybe the Winston progression, but I dont know how much of that is a reflection on Lovie and how much is a result of the organization as a whole.

  10. Tim Says:

    I don’t want to say that Evans sucks because he doesn’t suck but man, he really sucks. Can’t Lovie and Dirk coach him to catch a ball?

  11. D-Rome Says:

    Some of you guys really crack me up. The Bucs are an improved football team, period. Lovie Smith will be the head coach next year no matter how the rest of the season goes. One of you idiots commenters are on record saying that even if the Bucs were to win the Super Bowl this year you’d want Lovie fired.

    You’re the same guys who wanted Chip Kelly….you know, the guy up in Philadelphia that the players have seemingly tuned out. The guy who admitted Lovie Smith outcoached him a couple of weeks ago….

  12. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    I think as a fan of whoever is the HC you would not be happy with a coach with a losing record and this is an abysmmal losing record, so you “positive” fans are hoping for one more win? That is terrible I figured they would win 5-6 games this year but just because they are losers doesn’t mean that he should stick around. Who coaches evans? Michael Clayton? find someone that can spark the bucs and get rid of the “oh well” we let another one slip by us…blah blah blah…

  13. NewTampaChris Says:

    Lovie is no worse than an average head coach, maybe better. Koetter is a good OC — lucky to have him. Let’s have a little continuity here in Tampa, especially since it looks like we have a QB.

    I’d like to see us hire a top-notch DC. Maybe if Gus Bradley gets the ziggy in Jax, we’d have a reunion here.

  14. ATrain Says:

    LJ what are the signs of progression.. We beat the Eagles hahah…Did you watch them against the Lions (and the Lions are terrible)..

    For a team to Progress it must move forward or get better every week. We looked better Sunday?

    This team showed good games against bad teams.. They also did what a lot of players do when they are going to lose a players coach… WIN a few so he stays around.

    Lovie does not demand perfection he accepts mediocrity.. He is not too hard on the players… Look at the second half we were done worn out… The Colts were full of energy…

    Lovie is a players coach because he is easy… Raheem was a players coach ( bowling parties..) Week long trips to London… Remember those days..

    You will see another big loss this season… Atlanta is next (remember that beating)…

    Then they will win one or maybe two to save Lovie…

    Next year will be the same..

  15. Rodney Says:

    I think they get 3 of the 5. I would love to win against the Falcons, but I think they will be on a mission. We beat the Saints, Rams, and Panthers (because they are resting players). I think yesterday the coaches asked JW to do too much. We got away from Doug, and I don’t see why.

  16. 1nebuc Says:

    The great coaches dont play for the playoffs… SUPER BOWL RINGS!!!! We are settling for the hope of making the playoffs. Lovie i respect alot but he his a coach that will get your team organized . i really wish i was wrong but i dont believe i am. Think Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden … Love both coaches . wish dungy could of got that ring with his team he built . All im saying is 6 7 8 9 wins are what we are settling for but what about the rings . We go out and draft and sign fa to win super bowls but the coach needs to be on that same list .

  17. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Lovie is at a crossroads against the Falcons and what defense to run with, because you go man and julio eats anyone up on the bucs, you go zone and let GMC eat his donuts instead of rushing and then ryan picks them apart….should be interesting in tampa on sunday

  18. NewTampaChris Says:

    Atrain –

    Progress is winning more than double last year’s total.
    Progress is being competitive in games, even when we lose.
    Progress is looking at a rookie QB and being confident he’ll be able to get better and win.
    Progress is looking at two starting rookie OL and say, “Not bad!”
    Progress is thinking we SHOULD win (or have won) a game.

  19. Supersam Says:

    Joe wants Lovie to stick around cuz he knows as long as Lovie is the head coach Jameis will be the quarterback, he’s afraid a new coach will come in and start Glennon hahaha

  20. Johnny "America's Commenter" Dejay Says:

    There are going to be ups and down during the rebuilding process, which is about 70% done at this point. The Bucs had a chance to put the Colts away in the early third quarter, they had the momentum and the Colts looked like they were ready to fold, but the offense fizzled out when Mike “Hands of Stone” Clayton-Williams-Evans couldn’t catch a cold in the rain.

    This game was a lot like the Redskins game, the Bucs were up early and then couldn’t close the game out. They need a running back with breakaway speed, some receivers that can catch, and a dynamic tight end that can stretch the deep middle of the field and break seams. It wouldn’t hurt to have a couple of stud pass rushers either.

  21. The Buc Realist Says:

    As everyone knows, I am no Lovie fan. I do think that if left as head coach, The team will slowly ( glacier speed) until years down the Bucs will get a wild card game. And it will look exactly like yesterday’s game!!! If that is your end game, then Lovie is your coach. I would like to see something more eventually from the Bucs!!!!!

  22. LargoBuc Says:

    Lovie better ein at least one more. I said 7-9 third in nfcs with lunch on the line lol. But seriously if Lovie finishes 1-5 or

  23. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    The Glazers will get it that Lovie was another in a long line of poor hirers problem is they are not going to want to give out dead money to another coach. And that sucks because as fans we deserve and should demand better than 7-9 and that is the bucs ceiling with lovie 7 wins and that is coaching. Who is the WR coach? Can’;t do ball drills with evans and bring the heat up on the guy so he plays like his head is on fire or the great regression of LVD, those all go on the HC…so 7-9 Lovie is the man, 5-11, 6-10,

  24. LargoBuc Says:

    Worse it may be time to move on.

  25. LargoBuc Says:

    So 7-9 is Lovies ceiling Dusthy? Please explain. SB berth and two nfc championship games dont count right?

  26. ATrain Says:

    NewTampaChris Says:

    Progress is winning more than double last year’s total. NOT HARD WE WON 2 LAST YEAR
    Progress is being competitive in games, even when we lose. AGAINST BACK UP QB’S ( I WOULDNT CALL 2ND HALF COMPETITIVE)
    Progress is looking at a rookie QB and being confident he’ll be able to get better and win. – QB DOES LOOK LIKE HE IS PROGESSING
    Progress is looking at two starting rookie OL and say, “Not bad!” O-LINE IS LOOKING BETTER
    Progress is thinking we SHOULD win (or have won) a game. PROGRESS IS WINNING THOSE GAMES YOU SHOULD WIN…

    Jamies has surprised me but I am willing to wait and see…I think he will do great. He has a winning spirit.

    OLine has come together better than I thought, However yesterday was not good.

    Progress means to move forward… Yesterday we were moving in the 1st half.. The 2nd Half looked like the same old fold and fall..

    THIS IS ON THE COACHES>>> LOVIE IS THE #1 PERIOD… no game change … did not pressure a 40 year QB ..

    Sorry I know that some on here think FANS should be FANS and root for the team no matter what.. But I don’t live in Cleveland.

    The players (or some) are progressing..

    The TEAM has the ability to win but no drive the players played the 2nd half yesterday just like Lovie Coached -” Oh Well we did some good things”

  27. CAN'T FIX IT Says:


  28. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    7-9 is Lovie’s ceiling with this team and that is it, he is a 7-9 coach, who got lucky in chiraq with excellent asssitants

  29. Bobby Says:

    I don’t have much of a problem with this loss other than the drop by Evans, the ridiculous call by the official of holding on the fumble play that I still can’t see, and the call when Conte leapt over the entire line and landed on no one and they called a penalty. Also the soft coverage on not disrupting the receivers at the line of scrimmage. Other than that I thought Hasselbeck played a brilliant game. His passes were darn near perfect. Hard to defend a cat who is throwing the ball with that kind of precision. I don’t care if he’s 40 years old, if you give him the kind of time we gave him to throw he’ll dissect you. Their defense played better than our offense and the result is a loss. On to next week.

  30. NewTampaChris Says:

    Atrain –

    Agree with much of what you say. It’s just that “someone new” is very different from “someone better.” So I’m in favor of coaching stability, at least at this time. Many of these “hot new assistants” that get HC jobs struggle.

    And I also agree that I am baffled with the years-long struggle to find DL pressure. You’d think that every once in a while, an OL would miss a block and we’d get pressure by accident.

    I remember watching film breakdown of the Bucs’ Super Bowl win — the Raiders had guys open. But Gannon had no time to find them.

  31. MadMax Says:

    @Bobby, Conte did run into the holder….I hope you saw that….but the leaping penalty? he didnt leap.

  32. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Lmao at all these “fans” that come out for their depressing circle jerks after 1 loss.

    I didn’t even think the team played that bad. Just didn’t make some key plays that could have easily changed the game:
    -Mike Evans huge drop
    -Penalty for defensive holding on what should have been a huge turnover for Bucs. Verner literally barely touched the WR if he even touched him but no holding.
    -Winston missed ME for huge TD pass
    -Holdkng call negates Doug Martin TD

    If 2 of those 4 things go other way we had a great chance to win. The D didn’t play great but was far from terrible. Offense continues to move the ball almost at will but shoots itself in foot with penalties / sacks / missed opportunities

  33. D-Rome Says:

    THIS IS ON THE COACHES>>> LOVIE IS THE #1 PERIOD… no game change … did not pressure a 40 year QB ..

    That’s funny, I didn’t see Lovie Smith out there trying to sack a QB or get an INT. No one on the defensive line was beating their guy and that was with McCoy being doubled. There comes a point where players have to execute and beat their assignments. As a unit they were not very good.

    You guys are never satisfied. I remember a few years ago you all would get pissed off at Greg Schiano because of all the stunting he did on the defensive line. Now some of you are probably wishing we’d stunt more.

  34. NewTampaChris Says:

    D-Rome –

    And Schiano was probably doing GMC and others a favor by not saying, “I’m calling stunts because no one can get to the QB on their own.”

  35. orlbucfan Says:

    Gawd, we lose a ballgame cos the other team had experienced players like Methusaleh @ QB plus some pretty bad ref calls, some of the jokers on here make it sound like the world’s coming to an end. I said 8-8 this year. I’m sticking with it. Bucs are lightyears better than last year. We need more depth at certain positions; that can be addressed in the off-season. We have a young team for Petessake!! Give it a rest, bandwagoneers.

  36. dreambig Says:

    If Lovie only wins one more game then its a toss up on if he stays or goes. My guess is he would still stay. If they finish 7-9 he will be here for sure. The Bucs are better than last year and look to be a team on the way up. There is still a HUGE coaching problem that needs to be addressed. I think the Bucs being on pace to set a NFL record for penalties, is a direct measurment on the quality of coaching. The amount false start penalties on the OL we continue to get is mind numbing. Holding you can see happening. False start when you know the snapcount .. no excuse for that at all.

  37. Mike Johnson Says:

    Leave Lovie alone..haters. We will win at least 8 games this year. And watch us beat ATL again come Sunday. I don’t see playoffs..but one never knows. Yesterday we were simply beat by an ole crafty vet QB who figured out our secondary to a tee. With experience we will get better in the red zone. Lovie will right the Defense. I see us making the playoffs next year. We won 2 games last year. 5 thus far. And I do believe we will win 3 more. You don’t just pull a magicians rabbit out of the hat and go from 2-14 to 9-7 or better.
    We all see the signs of improvement. Lovie knows he’s gotta get the Defense right. But it won’t be done with some of our current players on D.

  38. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    @D-Rome and Lord C.

    Thank goodness the entire board hasn’t gone freaking crazy but there are plenty who have.

    When Lovie arrived I was not excited. I thought we were in for a rerun of Dungyball or Gruden’s pound the rock…freaking BORING!! I do not enjoy winning games 12-7 unless it’s the playoffs! Last year increased my Lovie fears.

    But Lovie changed! He brought in an OC known for slinging the rock not running…4 vertical and all of that…he took what was then a HUGE gamble…may not look like it now since it paid off…but Lovie literally put his career on the line with the selection of #3 which was controversial both for off field and for some on field reasons..too many picks etc.

    Now we see him go on 4th down…he’s allowed Koetter and Bajakian to develop our prized rookie perfectly.

    But here’s the real deal. We got beat yesterday by a GOOD team in THEIR house…a team with a red hot veteran QB riding a 3 game win streak.
    Two of the Colts losses came against the Panthers and the Patriots!! They have won 11 games for three straight years. We were not embarrassed by losing to this team. Get over it the freaking Colts were the second best team we’ve faced this year..at their house…with them riding a win streak.

    Now that 3 year run of 11 wins is what I wish to point out. The Bucs were riding a streak averaging 5 wins over those same three years.

    It wasn’t simply about the talent Lovie inherited. I’m truly tired of those debates…oh he should have kept Revis..bwaahaaahaa..as if Revis would have made a difference because he’s a better DB than we have.

    It’s not just the talent…Lovie came to a franchise in FREAKING SHAMBLES.
    Admit guys. This franchise was Cleveland Browns bad when Lovie arrived.
    Loser mentality…Glazers sending all their money to Man U…MRSA…our “franchise” QB self destructing….we were a steaming hot pile of dung!!

    Lovie waded in and has begin shoveling out the stall. We are in WAAAAY BETTER shape right now and Lovie has turned the culture around. Yes #3 is a big part of that but it was Lovie who put his neck on the chopping block to pull the trigger on that pick!!!

    It’s gotten so bad that at least one hater here said “his sources” said Lovie has lost the locker room. That simply unadulterated b s backed up by nothing.

    Some of you guys always see the half empty part of the glass. The Colts were the best team aside from the Panthers we’ve faced…we got 3 sacks yesterday versus 5 for the Colts 3 of which were on #3. The hurries and hits on the QB were also close…yet we scream we didn’t get pressure on Hasselbeck because he was experienced enough to throw the ball away or hit hot reads QUICKLY!

    There is no shame in yesterday’s loss…just massive frustration because even though we brought our C game instead of the A that would have been required we were in this game until the 4th Q!!!

    Lighten up. Five games to go. I agree with Joe if he loses all five it’s time to talk about firing Lovie. I do not see this team going on a five game losing streak even without Kwon.

    Lovie is our coach!!! Deal with it!!!

  39. Mike Johnson Says:

    Man…Sure are a lot of Lovie Smith Haters down there in Tampa. What up with that? Oh..my bad perhaps you want..Chip Kelly?
    Lovie Smith is a good HC. Let him go and you will quadtriple your stay amongst the..celler dwellers.

  40. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Lovie is a horrible halftime coach and made no adjustments to his dumb version of the Tampa 2 defense. There is talent there to be good on D under the right scheme and coach. There are too many holes in our coverage and those usually open up when the QB has time for plays to develop, we don’t blitz enough to help out our weak pass rush.

  41. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The Glazers will not fire Lovie unless he loses the team…..they have learned their lesson on pulling the plug on coaches…..
    I expect we will win one or two more games….

    And for those who say that it is meaningless to play close….they are right only in so far as the standings…..but for the players…being competitive is important….and, at least for this fan….it’s better than being blown out.

    My eyes don’t lie…..I am getting very tired of getting screwed on booth reviews….

  42. Buccfan37 Says:

    Nobody hates Lovie, some just think he is a little lacking at the HC position.

  43. The Buc Realist Says:

    StPeteBucfan is right!!! Credit Lovie by being so bad, that this organzation secured the #1 overall pick. And now #3 is trying to bring a winning mentality and drag the anchor along that is lovie smith!!!!

    Lets look and see how lovie has influenced the offense this year.

    lovie says – Hey Dirk, even though you are my 3rd choice, want a Job??
    dirk says – sure, I will take the job, can I wear the big Bucs floppy hat??
    lovie says – no, that is for the injured during training camp.
    dirk says – well go ahead and give asj one will ya!!!!

    That has been the only effect lovie has had on this improved offense!!!
    Can we name 1 defensive player from last year that has been coached up and looks better this year???

  44. orlbucfan Says:

    StPeteBucsFan: whoa!! How long have you been a long-suffering Bucs fan Like me? I know Belicheat’s team lost last night. Good. No telling about the Panthers….this could be their year. I still believe Bucs will win 3 outta the final 5 games. That means 8-8. Youth and injuries have hampered the team. Anybody who says Lovie has lost the locker room is on meth or worse. Cripes, Muscle Hamster has already gone over 1000 yards!! The Mighty Bucs will beat Atlanta Sunday, mark my words.

  45. Brent Says:

    I agree lovie doing ok and showing progress. If Bucs get 8 wins I’d be thrilled but 6 wins enough for lovie. We got to get better at pass rush and coverage before we can think of playoffs. Next year could be tricky for lovie. He’ll have to win at least 8 maybe9 to avoid hot seat..

  46. 813bucboi Says:

    boy some of you need to get a grip….makes me wonder if some of you are real fans…@greg schiano and MT Tom both of you are completely wrong….lovie has put this team in position to win numerous of times but players fail to execute…is lovie responsible for catching the ball? is he responsible for making field goals? when lovie needs to make an adjustment he makes an adjustment…if any of you know anything about football you will know that this team made zero talent last year and currently have young inexperience talent…why do you think lovie started so many rookies this year?…we lose one game and people are calling for his head(again)…he has this team headed in the right direction…even after wins fans on here would say,” yeah we won but lovie this and lovie that”….6 wins after a 2win season shows great signs of progress…would you like it if we were 2-9 or 3-8? we’re still in the playoff hunt with a chance to knock atl out with a win….like NewTampaChris said…R-E-L-A-X….GO BUCS!!!!

  47. 813bucboi Says:

    wow…nice to see “realist” on here again…I see you only comment after loses…GO BUCS!!!!

  48. Lord Cornelius Says:


    Jack Smith / Bradley McDougald / Lavonte David all look better this year than last imo. Verner has done better in slot than he did outside last year as well so that’s 4 players improved which is like 1/3 the f*cking defense. Kwon and Conte = upgrades. Gerald McCoy on pace for more sacks as well.

    Also realist – can you link me to a post where you suggested which coach or coaches we should have hired instead of Lovie? And are those coaches successful? I and no one else should give a single word u say credit unless you can do that and put ur $$ where ur mouth is.

    Bill O Brien is the only guy I really like from that class and even that team isn’t really going anywhere and are in worse shape than Bucs without a QB

    You have some of the most unrealistic expectations of anyone I see on here

  49. Fsuking Says:

    Raheem Morris = 17-31 (.354)
    Greg Schiano = 11-21 (.344)
    Lovie Smith = 7-20 (.259) ???????????????????

    F%#$ are u doing stilł coaching Lovie?

  50. Fsuking Says:

    Raheem even went 10-6 in a good year for the NFC south with future housewife Josh Freeman! Now our team is really good and he still can’t beat backup QB’s!!!

  51. Tommy T Bar Says:

    Come on Joe!

    You need to get better fax them what you’re reporting in this article. It seems to me you’re just trying to stir the pot to get people’s reaction over the firing of Lovie Smith.

    There has to be more interesting reporting then just ragging on the coach and trying to get him fired.
    Has anyone ever thought about finding a better slant on an article and start publishing good news instead of negative news? Maybe you should try to do your job a little bit harder than just the easy stuff that’s out there to report on.

    Ok, so addressing what a percentage of fans are thinking, and offering a positive opinion on Lovie’s performance this season, somehow qualifies on ragging on the coach and trying to get him fired. That’s pretty wacky of you. So Joe writes one more win and Lovie earned his return, and that’s negative. Okaaay. –Joe

  52. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    and made no adjustments to his dumb version of the Tampa 2 defense.

    And so let me see if I understand this comment. Your defense has just held a team riding a win streak in their house to just two FG’s…SIX FREAKING POINTS!

    And you want to make adjustments? Why because 12 points would have been too much to overcome?

    Their QB and receivers made plays…ours did not. It’s as simple as that!

  53. Destinjohnny Says:

    It gets down to talent people.
    Games are won and loss in the front office.
    We need in this order a stud de -2 db’s -safety
    Center and more line dept and a replacement for v jack in after next year.
    We need two more really strong drafts and need to nail 2 free agents.
    If we do this 2018 is a playoff year

  54. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Do not disagree with your wish list…just your timetable. We should be in the playoffs next year with another decent draft…not even as good as this year…just decent.

    And after yesterday and watching Vinateri and Barth…I’ve come to the conclusion if there’s a great kicker we should go after him. There just happens to be a great kicker as our FSU guys would point out…I would love Aguayo in a Bucs uni.

  55. Red86 Says:

    Don’t care about this year record. Keep Lovie and Licht so they can finally start building the defense and getting depth. This team will be scarier once the defense has talent and aggressive attitude. It’s take time to build a great team. Two years aren’t enough time for our mess pre- lovie and licht.