Lovie Smith: “Last Year The Crowd Showed Up. We Didn’t.”
September 10th, 2015
Lovie Smith just delivered the biggest admission to date that his Buccaneers’ effort last year was a problem.
Speaking this afternoon at One Buc Palace, Lovie was in a feisty (feisty for Lovie) mood and said the following: “Last year the crowd showed up. We didn’t.”
How refreshing.
All that endless chatter last year and during the early part of this offseason about losing an offensive coordinator and being “on the verge,” and playing lots of close games. Baloney! Tampa Bay was winless at home last year and gave a collective second-rate effort.
That’s why Logan Mankins needed a renewed commitment this offseason, one that led to six-pack abs.
That’s why Anthony Collins and Michael Johnson were booted with giant checks in hand from Team Glazer.
Joe also believes it’s why Josh McCown was ousted completely and not kept to be a veteran backup for Jameis Wiston. McCown didn’t show up mentally. Don’t believe Joe? Just watch the damn film.
And frankly, Lovie didn’t show up either, to steal the head coach’s choice of verb. Lovie didn’t outcoach one darn team in Tampa last year.
That has to change — or everything has to change.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:04 pm
But I thought players loved to play for Lovie? How can that be possible if they were giving a half ass’d effort?
September 10th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Good point Couch.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
I heard the whole thing, I think that the media is finally starting to convey fan opinion! They are just now starting to question some of the Lovie double talk and constant changing of philosophy!!!!
It was a huge pile of Siege last year!!! And a lot has to happen to change that!!!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
At least we know we’re getting a good effort this year. We didn’t show up like 3-4 games last year.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
How is Lovie going to outcoach any opponent when the players don’t show up?
Now we got rid of the problem children and reloaded. Plus the defense is more experience.
Add an offensive coordinator and this should show improvement on the field this year.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Hate this talk about changing coaches already. It’s fricking ridiculous and is the number one reason teams are perennial losers.
The good teams have stability.
GMC even said last year they were learning the defense.
Yet a bunch of you are ready to throw in the towel and start over .. AGAIN!
They have been starting over every couple years since Gruden.
Time for stability. Keep lovie and licht and the OC for a few years for JW’s sake and the franchises sake.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
My confidence in Lovie is wavering on the brink of flatlining. I imagine the vital signs can be revived.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
“Last year the crowd showed up. We didn’t.”
Duh.
But we got Jameis Winston – so last year’s sh1t show was more than worth it.
Mission Impossible became mission accomplished. Good job Lovie!
September 10th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Dave…I’m with you. I’m last person that wants us to keep starting over every 2 years. They won’t get anywhere that way.
Having said that though, I’ve never seen a Buc team as unprepared to play a game as I did at last seasons home opener. Also several times throughout the season as well.
If it continues to be a trend and they win less than 4 games, he better damn well be gone!
September 10th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
I think all of us know its better to have a “great” head coach year after year. But if you have a below average Head coach, then what is the point!!!
If Jameis cannot read defenses and able to dictate to them because he is just getting mauled behind Lovie’s Line then what is the point!!!!
We all know it does not take 4-5 years to “build the lasting contender”!!!
The one constant in the NFL is change! Has lovie changed??? Will the Bucs have a change????
September 10th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Agreed 87. Unprepared and flat. They really look like Lovie. Like they want to take a nap or something. Hating seeing that. I want to see this team fired up and ready to hit people.
On a different note. I pray we blitz and blitz often then blitz some more Sunday. Do the samething everybody else does to rookie QBs. Mariota will have all day if we continue the usually invisible 4 man rush.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
@buc1987
Then stay in the comment sections!!!! It is about to be total pandemonium in here in about 72hrs!!!!!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
“Last year the crowd showed up. We didn’t.”
But…but..but that can’t be. I’ve only read dozens of posts about Lovie’s excuses!
Can one of you people please pull up all those Lovie quotes where he is making excuses.
September 10th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Ask yourself why Incompetent Lovie Smith gets a pass for his all-time miserable failings as Bucs HC? What is it about this guy that makes you think he has what it takes to turn this thing around and win us a championship, much less a home game.
Stop settling for coaches (Lovie Smith) and players (Trash McCown) that are mediocre and simply cannot win football games. That goes for the Glazers too. This is ultimately their fault for the poor coaching hires. Lovie Smith hire was supposed to make up for the previous two mistakes and ends up being the worst of them all.
Just like how everyone is crediting Lovie and lapdog for cutting players that haven’t worked out the Glazers have and should utilize the same philosophy and replace Lovie Smith if his team’s continue to be unprepared to compete on game days this season.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
As a manager I always say dont tell me there is a problem until you can also give me a possible solution as well. So all you commenters that want Lovie gone AFTER ONE YEAR, who would rather have?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
@ndog
If your subordinate can identify and solve major problems, Then why do they need middle management like your self!!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 5:11 pm
I just want it to be knonw that I wanted Mike Zimmer when Lovie was hired as for who I would want now… no idea.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
Look, there are 53 grown men in that locker room. This is the NFL! No coach should have to motivate a grown ass man to do their job! This isnt high school football! If the team comes out flat. AGAIN. Im going to look at Gerald. Im going to look at VJax. Im going to look at Mankins and EDS. Im going to look at Verner. These are our vets! They need to be kicking the younger players in the butt to give it 110 percent, and they should be giving it themselves! Now, Lovie didnt do horrible coaching last year. At least on defense. Other than the game at Atlanta and Baltimore, he did pretty good. Not trrrible. Not great though either. But he better have some tricks in store for rookie Mariota.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
ndog..Martyball?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
After Morris and Schiano the Glazers wanted a name like Lovie Smith because it was well known with a connection to the glory years and was presumed to provide instant respect and stability. Because he is patently worse than either Morris or Schiano it has really blown up in their face.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Buc1987
I agree. I’m trying to throw in some optimism in these boards.
I also see Lovie as Dungy like except more willing to let the offense donuts thing.
Last year to me was a scrap of the roster to start fresh. They had a shit QB because they weren’t stupid enough (JOE!!!!) to take Johnny football.
If they aren’t prepared and win 4 then yes. Big problem.
But I don’t want To see JW have a new system and coach in year 2 either. Biggest QB killer there is in the NFL. Constant coaching and system changes.
I was optimistic with Ra and Schiano but I think for the first time since Grudens first two years I really believe they are on the right path. They have a very solid foundation to be a contender for a long time
September 10th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
The Lovie hatred after one year of a roster scrap is unreal.
The thing is, great HCs in the NFL are rare. It takes talented players and s great QB in s stable consistent system.
That is what makes a HC look great.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
I love the Bucs and always will, but there is a lot of half ass efforts in the NFL because it is a business and many players play for a paycheck and not for results. It is apparent when you see guys shine in contract years. A player does not suck and then all of a sudden remember how to play great football again. I will never quit watching the Bucs and the NFL but if you want to see football without the half-ass effort then watch college football.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
@DallasBuc
Lovie is worse than Morris and Schiano!?!?!?! Morris and Schiano WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS LOVIE IS!!!!!! Especially Schiano that gap tooth, Toes on the Line, MRSA outbreak, OVERRATED POS COACH from Rutgers!!!!!
You are clearly blinded by hate. That is one of the most stupidest things i’ve ever heard ANYONE say in my lifetime!
@StPeteBucsFan
Are these the facts your talking about bud?? I mean HOLY SH!T!??
“It’s as simple as that” – Lovie Smith aka “Morris and Schiano are better coaches than me!?! Are you KIDDING ME with this bullsh!t!?!?!?!”
September 10th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
Joe can We get a Lovie confidence poll going
September 10th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
In 2013 Schiano’s D was ranked 21st in the league in points allowed. Lovie’s D was ranked 25th.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
Especially Schiano that gap tooth, Toes on the Line, MRSA outbreak, OVERRATED POS COACH from Rutgers!!!!!
You are clearly blinded by hate. That is one of the most stupidest things i’ve ever heard ANYONE say in my lifetime!
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All 10 years of it?
September 10th, 2015 at 5:44 pm
rayjay…I LOVE college football MUCH more than pro for so MANY reasons.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
Ha ha ha Couch aka Schiano was a better coach than Lovie.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
@The Buc Realist Says:
@ndog
If your subordinate can identify and solve major problems, Then why do they need middle management like your self!!!!
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Lol, Nailed it! Exactly right!
September 10th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
9 wins to match schiano 11 wins to match Rah. Simple as that!
And if it takes so much time to NOT field a complete embarrassment of a so called FB team why then did the Vikings go 7-9 in a tough division. With a first yr HC and a rookie qb?
Lovie won 2 games in the worst division in FB last year. And let’s not forget that this EPIC guru got FIRED from Chicago.
But yea it’s a simple as that.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:51 pm
See Realist that is about what I expected from you. Managers like coaches are are supposed to help their associates /players grow and that thinking for them does not do that. The manager/coach makes the final decision but you want to foster growth and participation.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
DB55…college coach Schiano won 7 games in his first season as the Bucs coach too. Lovie with all his experience only won 2.
September 10th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
Yeah clearly the Bucs cheated on us last year!
But is it a one night mistake or do we have a serious relationship issue ?
Only them have the answer !
Show us your Lovie on the pitch!
It’s kind of as simple as that
September 10th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
@’87,
I like Marty myself, but I would now genuinely worry about him being too old. I really liked what Minnisota did. They took a very competent D coach and made him a HC and brought in Norv as the OC. Norv is NOT a HC, but the guy can coach O with the best of them. I expect we will get that with Mr. Koetter.
And your comparisons of Schiano and Lovie are right on. I used to coach, and the thing that bugs the crap out of me about Lovie is he does NOT adjust his system to fit his players. Doesn’t want to blitz even though he doesn’t have what he needs in the front 4 to run his stuff. Schiano did, and had success with it.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
Harry..lol if you like those comparisons go down to the Schiano article below this one. Where I ask everyone a question about Lovie vs Schiano. I’m still not getting any answers from anyone on it. Perhaps I’ll just have to wait or repost in here. As this seems to be where everyone wants to talk about Schiano vs Lovie at the moment.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:01 pm
Oh yeah and yes Marty is too old these days, but I wanted him instead of Schiano or Chip Kelly for that matter. But you’re right he’s getting up there now. 4 years ago they said he was too old then so…
September 10th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
So Harry you agree that you want employees that can’t think for themselves and have no input in the success of your organization. Man you guys are right that sounds like great management and place to work. More proof you guys are clueless.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
87
Let’s not bring up schiano’s twin brother Bill Obrien who won 9 games as a rookie HC. Leading the powerhouse Houston Texans.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
@Ndog
What you just said, I agree with. And will tell you that is a good way of promoting communication around the office. But that is nothing close to what you said previously. I expect people in “Management” to be able to express ideas eloquently , and convey clear and concise messages!!!
Now, if I have to see you in my office, you will receive more than a verbal warning! That is all!!
September 10th, 2015 at 6:12 pm
So to get back to my question the best all of the Lovie haters can up with is Marty? And of course Realist has offered nothing. Surprise surprise.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Yikes DB I forgot about college coach O’Brien winning 9 games in his first season in the NFL.
Now you’ve got me even more depressed about our situation. Lovie better put up or shut up real quick, or I think there might be more than billboards going up this season. Fans will literally show up with actual pitchforks and Molotov cocktails…
September 10th, 2015 at 6:19 pm
@Dallas
Ask yourself why Incompetent Lovie Smith gets a pass for his all-time miserable failings as Bucs HC?
DUH. Because many of us respect the opinion of the PROFESSIONALS in the NFL over keyboard warriors. You do realize that the people in the NFL could not disagree with you more. I can respect that you wouldn’t take my opinion..I’m a simple blogger…but the opinion of the majority of players and other coaches is totally OPPOSITE of yours.
So the question isn’t why does Lovie get a pass it’s why you expect us to take YOUR opinion over the actual professionals in the NFL? Got an answer for that?
87 Stats lose their validity as the sample size decreases and I’m sure you learned that in the class on combinations and permutations. A one or two year comparison as in Schiano’s 7 win season does not mean much. Too many variables. OTOH Josh McCown has played enough seasons, started enough games to at least begin to draw some conclusions. Over 50 games and a .333 win % says oops!
And so 87 I’ve been holding back but really!!! You and all the other Lovie haters who want to compare…OK let’s compare…but not single freaking seasons or two…although that’s all the talent Schiano had to hang onto his job that’s not Lovie’s fault!!
Rah…Career win % .354
Schiano…Career win % .344
Lovie…Career win % .519 even with last year’s disaster.
Cmon guys…stop the freaking cherry picking. One year does not make a career or even establish a trend. Neither does two or three for that matter.
After ten years you have at least a body of work. Lovie Smith is FACTUALLY a winning NFL coach. RAH..who I like btw..and Schiano are both LOSING coaches and that’s just a fact….or to rub it in….”It’s as simple as that!”
September 10th, 2015 at 6:20 pm
Ndog
Jimmy Johnson, Norbert turner, Jim harbaugh.
Josh McDaniels, Sean McDermott
September 10th, 2015 at 6:22 pm
87
If we lose Sunday he’s okay but if we get blown out 37-28 or if they drop a 40burger on us there will be trouble on the rainbow.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:22 pm
SPBF…would you say Schiano inherited a worse team than Lovie inherited when he signed on?
I would.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
SPBF
Apple and oranges bruh. Lovie made mistakes from the very beginning. Tedford over turner just crazy. Frazier garbage. Cutting the oline. Josh mccown holy Jesus. The fact that he has ten year exp makes it worse.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
We’d be foolish to change head coaches again.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
Bottom line is that it doesn’t matter what we say or think only what happens on the field. Godspeed mr smith Godspeed.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
BTW 87 Of course you love college ball better because you’re a freaking FSU fan.
My son lives in Columbus and loves him some Buckeyes and Urban more than his NFL team the Browns.
My gawd I suspect you or I could win at least 9 games with FSU or OSU with the incredible talent Jimbo and Urban have loaded up?
I mean that route of Texas State was impressive!!!*snark font off*
Then you guys face those killer teams like USF…Wake Forest…Syracuse…and mighty Chattanooga. Hell yeah you like college better because there is no parity except among the top ten perhaps top five!! You get to suck down your beer secure in the fact that you’ll be cheering another win.
And how about those Buckeyes. Urban has really loaded up his schedule with real threat eh?
The Buckeyes are about to begin a four game brutal stretch…The Hawaii Rainbows…Northern Ill Huskies…Western Michigan Broncos and a real tough conference showdown with Indiana’s Hoosiers.
FSU’s and OSU’s 3rd string and redshirts are more talented than the very best players on these other teams.
Give me parity over 8-9 boring games any time.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
I saw guys LEFT and RIGHT on this here site in 2013 telling us that there was NO EXCUSES left for Schiano. That he was surrounded by a lot of talent on the team. I know I’m not the only one that saw this on this site. It was said left and right. Schiano has too much talent on this team to be losing like this. LEFT AND RIGHT.
Now. If Schiano had soooooo much talent on his team then why did Lovie the brainiac that he is get rid of half the team?
I know what your answers are going to be before you type them. You’re going to say that you weren’t one of those fans and there really was no talent on the team to begin with. If that’s so then why did the team go backwards? Why did Lovie get BLOWN out by the Ravens and Falcons? We didn’t see any such blowouts in 2013 did we?
The team went backwards.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
87
Yes but at least now the players are happy and smiling.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
87 I’m not defending Lovies’ 2014 season. It sucked..he sucked..the players sucked and as I’ve mentioned fans in the front row claim the cheerleaders had crotch whiff. Yes…last year smelled to the high heavens.
If Lovie doesn’t win six this year I’ll join the fire Lovie club.
As far as who inherited the worst team…I thinks it’s a close call..but I’ll concede your point. Schiano inherited diarrhea while Lovie at least inherited a solid turdd
Does it really matter which pile of dung stunk worse? LOL
September 10th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
lol I didn’t even watch that Texas State game. It’s not easy being a Noles fan though man. When you go to games your arm gets tired as hell doing the chop all day long. Sometimes you have to switch arms.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:41 pm
87
<I saw guys LEFT and RIGHT on this here site in 2013 telling us
I think you’ll find your answer in the question. Do you really take guys on this site…me included…seriously?
I love reading these guys. Some back their opinions with observations…others just say Lovie sucks or we’re going to win ten games. All of us including the experts are speculating. NOBODY is posting facts other than those who point out that we are 0-0. Yeah there are some other facts..we did get the #1 draft pick…we DID attempt to address our OL with TWO 2nd round picks and the best FA tackle available..but you get where I’m going.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
BTW…I like all of college football not just FSU. I watch a TON of college football. On Saturdays I rarely leave my recliner.
If there’s a pro game on a Sunday night no matter the teams. I could care less about it unless it’s the Bucs. I usual don’t watch them.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
SPBF
My bad st Pete. You know most of us can agree/disagree with class. Others just piss me off. So I have to go on my rants. I am trying my best to be a kinder gentler 99 but as the season gets closer I feel my blood boiling.
September 10th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Having been a season ticket holder for 10 years now I can attest that the crowd did not show up last year. Yes, I know, there was a lousy product on the field but it was our lousy product. It is embarrassing when one of the northern teams comes here and there are more of their jerseys in the stands than ours. And, when the other team is in cellar also; empty seats.
Get out there Sunday and lets re-boot this team. Back in ’04, I had to wait two years on the waiting list to get tickets. Now they call me asking if I want to buy more.
September 10th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
DB55
Love your rants. Hey do not get me wrong. 2-14 and 30-70 merit some real ranting. I just want us to be fair to Lovie…not overlook his mistakes but not get carried away with hyperbole.
87 You mean you’re not going to join me watching the opener tonight and rooting for Brady to get the snot knocked out of him. I hope one of the Steelers deflates him. I’m not generally a hater…I respect most everybody…but I must confess I struggle with Brady and Belicheat.
September 10th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
FSU wins the award for the most obnoxious racket during a game. The moronic chant and braindead chop motion make their games unlistenable. They won’t win 10 games this year. Perfect place they occupy in the den of corrupt politicians called the state capital.
September 10th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
StPete- when you say PROFESSIONALS (in all CAPS inexplicably) you are talking about his good buddies in the profession that personally like the man and respect some of his otherwise overrated accomplishments. Now, I never asked anyone to take my opinion over that of his good buddies but I can assure you that those of us that don’t have a professional (sorry no CAPS) and/or personal relationship with the man are in many ways more free to evaluate his miserable performance as Bucs HC more honestly.
I don’t understand your convoluted counter arguments and it feels a whole lot like changing the subject and obfuscating…something you are quite adept at.
September 10th, 2015 at 7:40 pm
Buccfan37 brings up some cogent critisism of FSU fan!!
September 10th, 2015 at 7:40 pm
obfuscating…
Idk what that means but sounds like fighting words to me. BAAAHHHHH!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 8:24 pm
@buccfan37
And, I’m sure I won’t be surprised when you enlighten us with who you root for collegitely.
September 10th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
“I don’t understand your convoluted counter arguments and it feels a whole lot like changing the subject and obfuscating…something you are quite adept at.”
LOL I like both of you guys but DallasBuc you just hit the nail on the head. I’ve been there done that with him.
September 10th, 2015 at 8:35 pm
BTW Joe…once again. You have created the BEST(all CAPS) Buc site on the planet. This site just brings out some of the craziest comments you’ll ever hear from Buc fans and this site has some of the most hilariously crazy fans as well.
It truly is like no other site.
Too funny what goes on in these comment boards sometimes. If I don’t get on here all day (rarely) I like to sit and read everyone’s comments from start to finish. I crack up laughing all the time about stuff that was posted hours and hours ago.
Love it and don’t ever go away.
September 10th, 2015 at 8:37 pm
Buccfan37…jealousy will get you nowhere.
Go Noles!
September 10th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
It’s on like donkey kong. The season has arrived. Get your popcorn ready.
Is u skrong? If u skrong we skrong!!!
September 10th, 2015 at 8:48 pm
I bet you love FSU playing such a weak opponent Saturday, hosting USF a 28.5 point underdog. Gonna smash em huh. lol.
September 10th, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Schiano started to add to a crap team.
Lovie cleaned house and used last year to see who stays and who goes. Then they spent money because they had to and most didn’t pan out. But it was all stop gap anyway.
He is rebuilding… Through the draft.
Don’t understand why so many want to rip him apart and find a bad year here and there and act like he sucks as a coach.
Love all the hindsight BS many of you are doing. Almost everyone signed last year you all loved ! Now it’s – Lovie sucks.
It’s insane. The guy is just starting year 2 of a rebuild.
Yet….. Most of you secretary to axe him and start over…. Again…. And again…. And again…. Every couple years. You know that that gets you??????
30-70.
And it ruins JWs career.
September 10th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
@37 still waiting on your college team….
September 10th, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn… of course if they end up playing for the Bucs I’m a fan. No surprises here, Go Bucs, Go Bulls, Go Gators. The rest I don’t care who wins unless they play my favorites.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:00 pm
@Dallas
OK apologies for the “shouting” unneeded emphasis when simple italics would have sufficed. But that’s still a lame response. The NFL is incredibly competitive and produces just as much animosity as friendship. I certainly discount Dungy and Herm Edwards..Mike Tomlin..but this is not that isolated.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:01 pm
You think jimmy Johnson is great??
Took him 4 years of steady progres
Belicheat? He’s been “great” since he has Brady. He got ran out of Cleveland when he didn’t have a QB.
Think of any great coach over time … He had a great QB. Which made the other?
I tend to think a great QB who develops in the same system with coaching stability makes the HC look better.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:03 pm
I’m stunned you don’t care for the Warchant.
And, yes, I am looking forward to curbstomping USF. Still bitter about that loss a few years.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
Dave
You obviously weren’t around last year bc the same “amigos” were calling him out for mclown. And I for one had huge arguments on BN the day he cut the oline. I said he made the team worse from day one but all the “experts” said we were playoff bound.
Is it possible that although you hate what the “Amigos” spew they are right a lot more often that not?
September 10th, 2015 at 9:16 pm
Bill Parcel never had a great qb just some mean sons of bees on d and a battering ram at RB.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:16 pm
Yeah, who wudda thunk it, when USF beat FSU in Tallahassee. Sweet! Gotta pull for the Tampa home team up there again. Homerism works that way.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Dave…from what I gathered from the biggest Lovie bashers on this site is that he had a great GM when he was in Chicago and the Bears started to go downhill after the GM was gone and Lovie took over control of the Bears like he has here. According to Joe Lovie calls MOST of the shots over Jason Licht.
I’ve also read where his defense sucked after Marinelli left Chicago. I’ve also read that his o-lines have always sucked while he was with the Bears.
These are just things I’ve read on this site about him from time to time. Not saying it’s true or not. But if it is true and all his success in Chicago was because of other coaches and what not, then we simply can’t hold onto him, hoping that he can be the same coach he was in Chicago. Especially if the team only wins 4 games this season. I don’t want to get rid of coaches every 2 friggin years. Not at all, but this team BETTER show progress THIS season. THIS season. I don’t want hear any excuses at the end of the year from Lovie, the Glazers, or anyone in here.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
LWD…have you ever accidentally chopped the person in front of you at Doak Campbell while doing the chant. lol I have lots of times. Especially when your packed in like sardines.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:31 pm
DB
Mc Clown was a stop gap as they purged the roster. I didn’t agree with all the OLine moved either but they were shedding salary and ststting fresh.
So I will give them a few years
September 10th, 2015 at 9:34 pm
I know about the Chicago rumors. But the players and coaches say otherwise.
He went to a SB with Rex at QB!!!
LoL
Give him a little chance here is all I’m saying.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
Dave…I suppose it doesn’t hurt to give them a few years. At the very least we will keep acquiring good players by drafting high in the draft each season. That might bode well for whoever takes his job down the line. They just have to pick the right players, like Sam Wyche did.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
@87 Oh yeah. Though haven’t been up for a game lately. I’m insufferable to watch a game with. The Jeff Bowden years left me like an abused dog. And, well, the majority of my Buc years. Those Brooks/Sapp teams were almost unbelievable. “I think we’re….good?!?!”
September 10th, 2015 at 9:49 pm
LWD…I still say there’s nothing better than going to an FSU vs Gators game live. Not even Red Sox vs Yankees can compare to it, because lots of Gator fans are all over Doak Campbell and you’re packed into the stadium with them. You don’t see too many Yankees fans at Fenway Park.
Such a grrrrreat rivalry.
September 10th, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Agreed! I was also at some great FSU/UM games, especially in the 90s.
September 10th, 2015 at 10:04 pm
josh mcdaniels will be the bucs head coach in 2016 mark it down… gawd for bid the bucs lose sunday lovie will have signed his ticket outta the nfl hc community…. look at tomlin he is a dungy disciple but he adapts ans doesnt plug squares into circles… loved how schiano built up the aggressive attacking defense… lovie has squashed lvds fire and made him invisible in the outdated scheme….hope sunday bucs win 9-6 in a typical crappy bucs fashion… one day bucs fans will be rewarded with a consistent above average product and not be satisfied with an incompetent HC and a losing record to make you say i told you so…. 5-11 is not good enough
September 10th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
Who is the Bucs Gronk or is he a level above any receiver playing here? He has the Pats 2 td’s. Maybe Evans or ASJ, anybody on the Bucs. Jameis needs a Gronk to develop.
September 10th, 2015 at 10:23 pm
Exactly! He had Rex grossman as his starting quarterback. ‘Nuff said. Drops Mic!
September 10th, 2015 at 11:21 pm
@ndog Says:
“So Harry you agree that you want employees that can’t think for themselves and have no input in the success of your organization…”
Wtf are you talking about? No, I feel quite the opposite. I very much value employee input.
September 11th, 2015 at 12:08 am
McDanieels? How did that work for Denver?
September 11th, 2015 at 9:35 am
Lovie just isn’t a good coach. Some facts that cannot be refuted.
Winning % against teams at .500 or better: 30%
Number of seasons missing the playoffs: 70%
Average offensive rank: 24th
Average wins per season: 8
Look people will bend over backwards and hope he’s gonna be an elite coach for us, but his ceiling is pretty obviously making the playoffs every few years, maybe contending for a Super Bowl once every 6-7 years. I’m sorry but that’s just not good enough. Better than now? Yes. Still mediocre? Also yes. Don’t we wanna strive for me than just not being terrible? I’d like the be great thanks. And Lovie’s history strongly suggests he’ll never be that. And remember that was all with the greatest return man ever who changed field position significantly for the Bears. Bucs special teams last year were pathetic, to say the least.
Everyone is acting like it’s all about getting the QB…but isn’t that the point? Every coach could be great with a great QB. Only great coaches can be great without one. Lovie is just uninspiring and mediocre. Sadly most will want him back unless he goes 2-14 again. Imagine being 6-26 after two years, from the most allegedly NFL ready and best coach when he was fired? And being told he needs more time? Holy crap has it gotten that bad here?