“I Don’t Get Hung Up On Stats”

August 5th, 2015
NFL Network's Charley Casserly talks quarterback stats in training camp.

NFL Network’s Charley Casserly talks quarterback stats in training camp.

Yes, there is a large sect out there that acts like infants without a bottle if they cannot qualify something to a number.

They will whine and cry and scream until they suck a pacifier, or in this case, a calculator in their hands.

Now there has been a fair amount of words typed about the interceptions from “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, in the early days of training camp. Word from Nashville is that, allegedly, Marcus Mariota has yet to throw a pick in practice (which, frankly, Joe finds difficult to swallow).

One person who believes all this number-crunching in training camp is nonsense is former NFL general manager Charley Casserly.

Joe got a chance to chat with the former Redskins and Texans chief yesterday at One Buc Palace, as Casserly was there working for NFL Network.

Discussing Jameis’ development, Casserly waved off any kind of statistics in training camp.

“I don’t get hung up on stats in practice,” Casserly said. “I mean, I kept them, but stats are very interpretive. In other words, did the receiver run the right route? If the ball is over here, did the receiver make the right cut? Well, why is that? I think you have to look at the big picture.

“What you don’t want to see is to go out there and go, ‘Oh, my God! What did we see in this guy?'”

And in Casserly’s eyes, that is not the reaction he gets when he watches Jameis.

What does Casserly specifically see in Jameis? Well, Joe will have more of that later.

29 Responses to ““I Don’t Get Hung Up On Stats””

  1. LakelandBuc Says:

    This is practice, people treating this like it’s the Super Bowl and Jameis have cost the Bucs a shot at winning the big one. Come on folks yesterday was the Bucs 2nd day of practing in pads, and you have a rookie QB with 2 years of college experience.. But it’s a good thing that the Bucs are giving him NFL looks on defense, unlike some teams who are treating their rookie QB with kids gloves. Bring it own Lovie and Leslie, keep the pressure on the kid, what will he learn if he’s throwing checkdowns on every play? This is our 21 year old rookie QB, we plan to have him for another 10-15 years. This is not the time to be babing him like a 2 year old, we gotta throw him into the fire. The defense was dropping 7 in coverag against Jameis, when the season start and he see that defense he will audible to a running play. One thing I love about Dirk Koetter offense, we won’t have to worry about teams putting 7 in the box against us anymore. If they do they will pay, if they put 7 in coverage they will pay. GO BUCS.

  2. Buc1987 Says:

    Lovie…Keep throwing the kitchen sink at Jameis. When you’re done with that, throw some more at him.

  3. BFFL Says:

    “Denial helps us to pace our feelings of grief. It is nature’s way of letting in only as much as we can handle”…Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

  4. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:


    The only people treating it like the Superbowl are the anti-Jameis, pro-Mariota crowd, who are still bitter about the draft.

    Training camp stats mean little. I don’t expect either rookie to blow the world away this season. But, I think we will see progress as the season goes on from Winston. It’s about who will be a better long term pro.

  5. Buc1987 Says:

    Joe says :”Yes, there is a large sect out there that acts like infants without a bottle if they cannot qualify something to a number.”

    “They will whine and cry and scream until they suck a pacifier”

    Yes Joe and some of them are on this very site.

    We like to call them Mariota Clingers or cling ons…

  6. No better way to say it Says:

    As long as Winston keeps pushing the playbook everything is fine. He could be out there just hitting the checkdown all day and looking good for the so called reporters but that isnt going to improve his ability to play in the NFL.

  7. mike Says:

    This is the nfl…. everyone struggles at the start. D brooks didn’t know where he was going til about game 8. Peyton Manning looked like Josh Mccown in his 1st 4 games.

  8. Drywaller Buc Says:

    Is that guys hairdo real??? 🙂

  9. rayjay1122 Says:

    Here is a stat. Zero!
    That is how many times practice time interceptions have been counted at the end of the season! This is not the stock market guys. We do not have to panic over every little rumor or hiccup.

  10. Buc1987 Says:

    rayjay…the Mariota Clingers do and will continue to do so.

  11. LakelandBuc Says:

    Warren Sapp got 3 sacks his first season, Peyton Manning threw 28 picks his first season,Kobe Bryant averaged 7.6 ppg his first season and Jameis season haven’t begin and the haters are already out during PRACTICE. I know Allen Iverson is rolling on the floor laughing at these haters. LOL

  12. Digga101 Says:

    Practice stats are for geeks!!!

  13. pancake block Says:

    i got a number for you…casserly has a 50 dollar hair piece

  14. StAugBuc Says:

    BFFL Says:
    August 5th, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    “Denial helps us to pace our feelings of grief. It is nature’s way of letting in only as much as we can handle”…Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

    Seriously, are you a woman? Who quotes Elisabeth Kubler-Ross on a football blog?

  15. drdneast Says:

    Mike, I beg to differ with you about Manning. He looked like McClown his entire first season, just not 8 games.
    I don’t care how many INT”s Winston throws in practice. I want him to test his arms and the windows so he can gauge what kind of throws and velocity he needs to put on the ball.
    If all we are going to do is toss checkdows, we can bring back ROB Johnson for that.

  16. Greg Says:

    Mariota might should have been the pick
    We’ll see

  17. LakelandBuc Says:

    This is Gil Arcia . There are no wins and losses in training camp. There is no statistical value to what anyone does. There is only practice tape and classroom time that matters most. And that’s where Winston is excelling at the moment.

  18. Drywaller Buc Says:

    @pancake block

    That was the first thing I thought so I googled him… He’s been rocking the trump style hair for a long time lol

  19. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo doesn’t believe in stats….Pablo thinks if stats were true then everyone would have uno pecho & uno testiculo…..there is only one stat that Pablo cares about and that is how many Buc fans love Pablo because Pablo is a very nice man and loves all Buc fans….even the Realst”

  20. Danati74 Says:

    Seriously Mariota might should have been the pick? Wow, way to support ur team. Will you be wearing your Mariota jersey to the games?

  21. Buc1987 Says:

    Danati74…no worry he’s just another

  22. Buc1987 Says:


  23. Buccfan37 Says:

    I got a number for you too. #3, Mariota Mariota Mariota, now if I click my heels 3 times, he will just go away. It didn’t work.

  24. Buccfan37 Says:

    This guy needs to get a different barber, or a different bowl, or a mirror that works.

  25. Drywaller Buc Says:

    Chicks dig the bald look, but they don’t dig that… Unless u got trump $$$

    Mariotas gonna be a baller no doubt, But he’s not on the Bucs… Personally myself I would’ve preferred him but I like what’s going on right now. I’m excited for this defensive line!!! Winston should lots of opportunities if the d-line steps up. Punts is what Winston needs from the defense. #1 stat

  26. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Only stat I keep track of personally is the win total. A yo maxipad in the event you haven’t read the rebuttal left on the other page. If you are bright enough to notice my attacks are always for folks driving by leaving bs commentary for everyone to read. I quite often compliment well thought out post you know the one that spiritually up lift the enthusiasm of the fan base. That other stuff trust me dawg I’m responding to it. You and your Animosity Amigos buddies make it easy for me,I can’t help it. Y’all attack my coach routinely,it vexes me,so I get at you a lil bit. Be a big boy and deal with it. Throw something back at me if it makes you feel better. I can handle it bro,this some on line stuff man.

  27. Drywaller Buc Says:

    For a couple bucks u can get a cheap haircut 🙂
    U heard it from me first. Jay Glazer style.

    The key to Winston’s success is the defense. Punts and turnovers… More opportunities… Higher chance of success

  28. Mo_Downs Says:

    Does anyone seriously think that the Titans and Bucs will meet in the 2015 Super Bowl? Anyone…???

    OK, then let’s talk about the topic at hand:

    A) Is TC preparation for game situations?


    B) Is TC just PRACTICE to evaluate playbook/personnel and identify strengths/weaknesses for later use ?

    Casserly seems to go with B and even though he works at NFL Network (Drama Central) his professionalism won’t allow the press to devour Jameis based on his employers motto: “Mo Drama = Mo Profit”.

    I, for one, relish the opportunity to play the Titans knowing that their secondary hasn’t produced many pics in practice and NONE against a…wait for it… “ROOKIE” QB.




    Koetter has to be laughing himself to sleep after reading this stink.

    The real story is: “It must really suck to be a member of the Titans secondary”.

  29. Señor Mofo Says:

    Get real, folks.

    Let’s assume, for the moment, that we weren’t in a position to draft Jameis, and we were going into this season with Mike Glennon as the starter.

    Every Glennon pick in training camp would be clear evidence that he is hot garbage who should never play the QB position.

    I agree that Jameis’ camp picks so far are no real cause for alarm, but the way some of you nut-hugging sycophants rush to explain away every mistake that Jameis makes is pathetic.